From nobody Fri May 16 20:08:00 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ZzdRs20h3z5wG1J for ; Fri, 16 May 2025 20:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Received: from mail.protected-networks.net (mail.protected-networks.net [202.12.127.228]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.protected-networks.net", Issuer "R11" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ZzdRr09DTz45t2 for ; Fri, 16 May 2025 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imb@protected-networks.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=protected-networks.net header.s=201508 header.b=Uw2qZbdQ; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of imb@protected-networks.net designates 202.12.127.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=imb@protected-networks.net; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=protected-networks.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= protected-networks.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:in-reply-to:from:from:content-language:references :subject:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:date:message-id; s=201508; t=1747426081; bh=gnpX1q1C8C6WbJqMB9GKYYdZaqCGgWPMuBMc c12hblI=; b=Uw2qZbdQkPgH//cqWmc7/UC5A25i/DqhDBFWBGeKvHNkYrIOdw3y xno8KaqvjTuxOooB5IPp7ycsVEGbE5OivbO3hQyFOjp7+s3UzPScAcD0Xt0Io5ZR UxxNPrgJ3r8DbW1y74G2SZwneu2LvZeANBAq+722yNpLsTPyVnWZB+0= Received: from [192.168.1.9] (d5540.auburn.protected-networks.net [192.168.1.9]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: imb@mail.protected-networks.net) by mail.protected-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09BB0598F; Fri, 16 May 2025 16:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <932111f8-f5ca-46d1-9f66-983f80f6116b@protected-networks.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 16:08:00 -0400 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: epair(4) To: Marek Zarychta , Cy Schubert , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20250515162552.9209B20E@slippy.cwsent.com> <20250515185919.87008219@slippy.cwsent.com> <45d0f49d-229b-46b4-af95-6e8c4c856661@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Content-Language: en-NZ From: Michael Butler In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ZzdRr09DTz45t2 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.76 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.76)[-0.758]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[protected-networks.net,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[protected-networks.net:s=201508]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5716, ipnet:202.12.127.0/24, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[protected-networks.net:+] On 5/16/25 15:52, Lexi Winter wrote: > i don't really want to add a kernel message here for something that only > affects a small percentage of users, unlike net.add_addr_allfibs which > affected everyone who uses multiple fibs. That "small percentage" includes most folk currently using jails and/or bhyve (via sysutils/vm-bhyve). If, as the bridge(4) man page suggests, the sysctl "goes away" in 16+, we'll need some other mechanism to interconnect these. It cannot simply "go away" without offering a solution. Any pointers? Michael