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Zeeb" Cc: FreeBSD wireless mailing list , current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, desktop@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bCmbZ6W0rz3Fbw X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 7:52=E2=80=AFPM Bjoern A. Zeeb wrot= e: > FreeBSD WiFi development has regained traction. We are facing a > decision with FreeBSD 15 coming before the end of this year [1]. > > In order to continue WiFi development, upcoming changes will inevitably > break the net80211-driver and net80211-userland interfaces. > By FreeBSD's standards those would not be mergeable to stable branches, > such as stable/15 then. > (..) Great news Bjoern! Thank you for the heads up and good luck with the development.. sometimes breaking changes are unavoidable, especially when you need to jump over several generations of technical debt :-) The best situation is when user will just get new features while the workflow remains the same :-) I have mobo with Wi-Fi 7 (802.11 be / ASUS TUF GAMING Z890-PRO WIFI) so if you need testing just let me know for now its turned off :-) --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info