From nobody Wed Jul 30 05:08:23 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bsKxK3XZFz637Kd for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 05:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bsKxJ3Ck4z3kXn for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 05:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 56U58Nna073247; Tue, 29 Jul 2025 22:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ultimatedns.net; s=mx99; t=1753852109; x=1753852709; r=y; bh=OPkOP9CuD/H+4Ah5L7yECavhS7IUMPsJ6NE+IF2GwXQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=KEZ6BxRTPq7imNz2gxe5nFHnXng1aXJ5I7JMhyn7wlu4xDdjdzvZeZRyHoNnBHUuD OccBUMUZvm+mYppWkpzMePLqlwPxGG84jdXwc7PFrCAoAAjG1/p+5YsNYlhc6yM+i3 W5CxDXwisofO/Ej1gilfgYc4ercI9Mud+Z86lll3zorUmdnNZcc8fHtS4Y5VHUBOai KVZJR4hhog+65lI1WroyVRsM+IRZPx1d9jdL3w+Gslnz4OCEmE+1bGaEkrAA7AdvSR 1ODFTnYHCogaNkSjamIlZXsv9mKMM8hjwsErNPGoLXXsvPF1rlbDYmNY/FE5CnUnuK XqOqeoogtsCnw== List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 22:08:23 -0700 From: Chris To: TheComputerCollector Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternate DEs in 15.0 installer (twm, CDE) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_727669def764ce1b220580122fd46240" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bsKxJ3Ck4z3kXn X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US] --=_727669def764ce1b220580122fd46240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2025-07-29 15:56, TheComputerCollector wrote: > I stand for a decent chunk of the community in that I like twm, and a > smaller chunk in that I like CDE. Something about the minimalism of these > desktops draws me into them and makes me use them, even when there are > modern options available. I also like them as they are low-overhead enough > to run on my home server with a 90's Matrox graphics chipset, when I need > to run a stupid piece of server software with graphics. I want to suggest > adding these two desktops as an option alongside KDE in the 15.0 installer. I can't remember about CDE. But as I recall. They both get installed as a part of Xorg. IOW if you install the full xorg server meta package. 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