From nobody Wed Dec 10 08:58:10 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dR8ky5fNsz6KDYH; Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4dR8ky1xqVz3PQK; Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from delta.joker.local (124-18-6-240.area1c.commufa.jp [124.18.6.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.18.1/8.17.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 5BA8wARn078266; Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:58:10 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dec.sakura.ne.jp; s=s2405; t=1765357091; bh=vw6+Cjk2ConT1UlzNrZGW33WrTjg5A6SDqDcepw98UY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To; b=fGgW5T0s7/cbEKxucBMSU/ExNLEMCsvCFO3y6bXMd8aLMrIlbUFvVxuD/8MxUnR9/ YBlxu4K+FQfF4KJ7iah5/QMS2VrL90cNuAUEEvOUkYoUl9pz8IzIIKFn2sdUes1Ax2 zM/46PtqvrnVCi8YtpOsrkPDEwllu09MK4yLbygo= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2025 17:58:10 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: vermaden Cc: Cy Schubert , Chris , freebsd-current , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone know how to get FreeBSD on a framework 13 laptop? Message-Id: <20251210175810.85d9776fb1ecee5ae8a765e2@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com> <20251210063425.88020295@slippy.cwsent.com> Reply-To: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd15.0) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dR8ky1xqVz3PQK On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 07:37:28 +0100 vermaden wrote: > One may ask a question ... why 'kern.vty=vt' is not default on FreeBSD 15.x and 16.x right now? I believe it's already the default for UEFI boots, as UEFI without CSM cannot support kern.vty=sc, and CSM is usually disabled on UEFI boot. Some motherboards could support such a config, though, not standard. For legacy BIOS boot, if things does NOT changed after the last time I've checked years ago, defaulted kern.vty=sc and can be overridden to vt via /boot/loader.conf. Regards. > Thanks, > vermaden > > > > Temat: Re: Anyone know how to get FreeBSD on a framework 13 laptop? > Data: 2025-12-10 7:35 > Nadawca: "Cy Schubert" <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> > Adresat: "Chris" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>; > DW: "freebsd-current" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>; > > > > >> In message > <63ebfc5a49b38196ead43b7403f0a12c@bsdforge.com>, Chris writes: > >> --=_1fa5024c3e762cfee18202d6a7376470 > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; > >> format=flowed > >> > >> OK because I know you're going to ask... :-) > >> > >> framework 13 laptop (MSI Crosshair 18 HX AI A2XWGKG-012US)[1],[2] > >> CPU: Intel Core Ultra 9 Processor 275HX [3] > >> GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Laptop GPU with NVIDIA Optimus > supported [4] > >> LAN: Realtec RTL???? 2.5Gb > >> WiFi: Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211(2*2 ax) > >> > >> I'm currently unable to boot any of 13.5,14.n,15.n or 16 on this > laptop. > >> On 13.5 it hangs on sc (syscons(4)?) connect... > > > > Add this, > > > > kern.vty=vt > > > > to your loader.conf. > > > > If you look at the sc(4) man page you will notice, > > > > Note that the syscons driver is not compatible with systems booted > via > > UEFI(8). Forcing use of syscons on such systems will result in no > usable > > console. > > > > As to how I got my Framework 13 (with AMD chipset) installed, I cloned > > > FreeBSD, including all data, from my HP 840, also running in UEFI > mode, > > changing fstab and rc.conf to customize a few things before booting > the > > Framework laptop. (The HP 840 also uses kern.vty=vt.) > > > > To boot the Framework from install media, break to the loader prompt > and > > type in, > > > > kern.vty=vt > > > > Then boot. Install FreeBSD. Finally, make sure kern.vty=vt is in the > > installed image's loader.conf before rebooting the image. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Cy Schubert > > FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org > > NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org > > > > e**(i*pi)+1=0 -- Tomoaki AOKI