From nobody Mon Dec 01 23:35:22 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4dL0dF0Gp5z6Hxq5 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2025 23:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature ECDSA (prime256v1) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "E8" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4dL0dD48GHz3WLk for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2025 23:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [172.16.35.4] (pool-99-253-118-250.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.118.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 5B1NZMxN099437 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 1 Dec 2025 18:35:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=blastwave.org; s=default; t=1764632123; bh=oMkNDsG/jBZPA/iFl9g4eR+gj5OA6uXowjWxxsv0GZE=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=WpHjz1EnX6zSiK/icVfi0C0o6UZ1h0OFfzaqE7BcVvqRnR4LJ3tJccGlblGn5dIB8 ohizQj9pa8NTQJMYLRrz+QjTI/smpqxtscEdtdRvHxgC0WEQxQLRtMH0d+4k2WCKqR XgsM/QbJukknW9aEcZ512sxGwJpwGX+la6GWL1AqZC8l03+6ELSJgo4p+TtIvR0rqG OEPllXXwth89h7mlz3EuFM41PqxRtnI7hYyGn+3Uy+QJNJWVCXg7EGxgTL6TIHnJAP G4ggI8hhZOcZWUQc2MEs7rbUtI9mVQMkXG3x+/Z1VRiJODcaGGGNQxO337DiVo5Rtz OVyQcUoLZ+W3g== Message-ID: <89567f90-5596-4dff-8554-3b43e71ae256@blastwave.org> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 18:35:22 -0500 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE timeline Content-Language: en-CA To: Mark Millard , FreeBSD Current References: <07C4BD2A-8AD7-4364-A6DF-D3AB1D3E296D@yahoo.com> <804482BA-B05F-4BEE-BB9E-E220FBB38346@yahoo.com> <1C737426-3C74-4240-8A37-47552F6550E2@yahoo.com> <78AED058-F118-4096-B823-F45EFAE5F5C3@yahoo.com> From: Dennis Clarke Organization: GENUNIX In-Reply-To: <78AED058-F118-4096-B823-F45EFAE5F5C3@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 5B1NZMxN099437 X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dL0dD48GHz3WLk On 12/1/25 2:34 AM, Mark Millard wrote: > On Nov 30, 2025, at 22:28, Mark Millard wrote: > >> On Nov 30, 2025, at 22:20, Mark Millard wrote: >> >>> On Nov 30, 2025, at 22:05, Mark Millard wrote: >>> >>>> Dennis Clarke wrote on > An illustration of the schedule out to 17.0 is at: > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/navigating-freebsds-new-quarterly-and-biennial-release-schedule.94183/ > Now that is very handly : https://freebsdfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/gantt-freebsd.jpg That could ( should ? ) be posted on the FreeBSD Supported Releases page here : https://www.freebsd.org/releases/ Very handy to see that 15.x will have long legs into the end of 2029. > If accurate in how it shows overlaps, there would be a > period with all the following active: > > 14.6 15.3 15.4 16.0 16.1 main > (2028-Jun) > > and a later period with: > > 14.6 15.4 15.5 16.0 16.1 main > (2028-Sep) Yes, I see that. Very handly little chart. Perfect for the supported releases page don't ya think? > > Hopefully there will be more aarch64 port-package builder > machines active by then. With quarterly and latest > for all but main and with armv7 suspended, that would be > 11 combinations to cover during those periods. I have yet to see anything other than amd64 really be super stable and reliable. I am sure there is a server somewhere based on aarch64 but I just do not see the point. I would much rather see IBM POWER9 as a real solid option but that requires 16M USD and a well paid team of engineers for a year or two just to get a reasonable beta. Sadly. -- -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken ps: I still have an ORACLE S7-2 server running Solaris 11.4 and Gentoo because nothing else runs.