From nobody Mon Aug 25 18:53:14 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4c9g0s3pSgz65RsC for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4c9g0s35rzz47T8; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756147997; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Kb/YN6QTRGW7rW1ottUIGOXzk+e+/rcBQnjuQua0QTc=; b=SGrrMXdrwjFgmBcs9MXh/m+rPc9pebY43tGXIMZ7oina90dSiR3WUSQ5lpAuOpxKk9/j14 zw05dsnBaEe64f3TdfROTH/1ytqq2L3eg0kBHU+bPT1lB9OZm1YmNrtZj1B79eOBbstSQv V2Ua2qkzVLrndWdTO6ks2MXzJAgFPlAKrOKn90WnqOVW1AEZjNv/sEQ6YWa5hhmoEcPDTr T0W5zneBJTUSpLkcMd9nsWWf7zvnbJKBMq6UOVwsD9IxKAW4yC3EUJoYZLmFB/OnGE/4t6 ht8XZORR+OEAi4OClZ8DmuqLkcmAkdJg7c41MJD+oh6Lr6p9EcQlKvnd2RgQfw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1756147997; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Kb/YN6QTRGW7rW1ottUIGOXzk+e+/rcBQnjuQua0QTc=; b=YBMxv/gHRqQJkw920ovCUoKxknomWWXN4qWMGiJewlLNCiKZ0sL47qb/h5hi1QLe+k4rnK BibBi+w4je1KO80zUXV/6xLyKQd/slipjMRoAzY0GWMZ9HKSCKDaw8D0YRBZc/GGY/mpxV VMb3jMse1nrV3CuvompmJcVIO41yGrLPMIjPuOGiKJ33wKN8lo3DzmE0Tn4KV/6e2d7nX7 G6y7w3cEhpYjIhn80qIlXU123vWfnIcO3K2I//6pBneL/r8fVO7/0Fb05wZu7lNY81HXMO mA1aUsKur15EIFP9V1UR8B4hc4TGPQQsi7Mct3RwH+W0KWJOWrDtPaOu1aReOg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1756147997; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=grET+Aeo4KoG4z0Ce6UciVK5I+NH8Gz8EE8Vr8PXxaGj63FEpiDZj2W7iBRPRFzUNbSdrV yL71ccmtP74E7cPF7qPtOLkq+ZNtr01+Zb+N+96idLuw1NamPtr7+/dloXaH1m1jEx43Kb YwhteXcfDC9l2bbB/zdWyzOUJb4Ofoffp+EXsv7WzikluehTHqwkEk9/YXDuCQLGJV/cjb M9zxcJM+F9j9XtcKcvgteyjNFCjiFGWl9n+ijptYd3CaBZQ+O7ufiZlkmpixeI1SQA/LdH +J3lsQgionEw6uaQ/2YaWN4gPoQUmXci2lpV8a/dm7Gi2vE3bGD/Y0g25+nRJg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from cell.glebi.us (glebi.us [162.251.186.162]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: glebius) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4c9g0r6vtLz7Cy; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:53:14 -0700 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: Kyle Evans Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: August 2025 stabilization week Message-ID: References: <56dd78c6-a53a-4c4c-989a-335cc5fed405@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56dd78c6-a53a-4c4c-989a-335cc5fed405@FreeBSD.org> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 11:09:36AM -0500, Kyle Evans wrote: K> > 4) The unfortunate coincidence with 3) is ABI breakage in the K> > setgroups(2)/getgroups(2) syscalls compared to the July stabilization point. K> > Some packages would dump core. These packages need to be rebuilt. K> K> This should be mitigated if you have COMPAT_FREEBSD14 enabled? Old packages would K> reference the old compat symbol versions in libc, which should use the COMPAT_FREEBSD14 K> variants of setgroups/getgroups. If you have a pointer to scenarios where that isn't K> the case, that'd be helpful- old packages should be fine in the GENERIC case. You are correct. This affects only people who run custom kernels without COMPAT_FREEBSD14. -- Gleb Smirnoff