From nobody Wed Aug 20 14:22:07 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4c6TDJ3KtBz64Vh9; Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4c6TDJ2kT7z3blX; Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1755699728; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nAf9qqaI08QO0dsU/mXGN8w0V+5S7GZKcmB5M+EmpB4=; b=BuCdQeRU2lERKVlhfbo9MLcFEgkvxR05hG8afkMTlwYkXrr/gwmCnmaB/xpr7lHij0H6Rl TAnuoYz0TVGbV3wThmOVcG8NW18ctKsNsRmTDW6ev4GiL581LttYtDL6dLCTysgOS+PISM H5wZubrZT4/PAj1GxaVH+rhtqmAVqtEHje09By/e7sJswV9ypWqUX/QeUz30VM9zwRFyh8 VP1c+0fHdRqFPvoCQditmCFDP8DOgJcq+OMDJW1OCxwsxzEpc70uzbCpl6kWzYOJUrDbLg 2tYeaznsEgPyLBuvHGTh82twpKADSPZCc1McHxI1mk4b0+K39JKNqLvb0A0WJw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1755699728; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=nAf9qqaI08QO0dsU/mXGN8w0V+5S7GZKcmB5M+EmpB4=; b=yFqA4wwRLoa6TXiJFop1fhMxvZB/MgmXcp9cHc4VwSwN9+ZVZbmOiNHSutRyJgtQnx49xx Cd/4mTKUTH4H2DkzbgYkX7DZrnbTyhPG1PuJlDMjTumvlxfb0iTU+VT2aUSc3mSCiCDb89 uohA2T3DinF/gtN0mDnJqjw5MYon77wJBeTMM3eNCs2SlpLjwGQRrRLt+SpixLgAYj9zBd MTRkuKzfV8t0gmuCMhVHBVV/YSPcbVyZpHW7D1hLo7+zIgpaUEn2YTanCWKQAG8CnR69Ge IDJiVOCs7o8+v7vOaaAaAgULe4kVRBJJqCAhJOnf9hMUYy0fS7NIYvRlbM0SYg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1755699728; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XjmEjyqgdanrJdxzsMExbLGivTtdr6y/Pvpv3uYLx9O1soKNKHwbynMm+i11HsCVhPmFaq BNCAg0kK7HrdWztp6pU4/ZEcwofyQcMsJq+e5+1IDJG3w+/PiGt31MpQnJJKAuzCvART7L 4dLdtDObDe61yr9qpGA6EBp9m43GLZFhEJ+UoqZKTcC7TousKBdXrNyNR1rQqGefca4nze 1Bi040OdeZN2yFJZF71uafEkARsfarSmecOpzKmK2+t9AY1T8fyzNSs5i8/iif12Ygcd0D 2C2Uz6ifmcT+8iZnxlE4CeCYiHa/Y6VQZ1+YcEswO4QgTPIFefl8zFyf3bDZQw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from [IPV6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:ada5:e608:9ff9:8e6a] (unknown [IPv6:2601:5c0:4202:5670:ada5:e608:9ff9:8e6a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4c6TDJ0Z7qzmRx; Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <7c48e14d-b463-4523-8610-e18ac99f3381@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 10:22:07 -0400 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: RFC: Renaming "FreeBSD" repo in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf to "FreeBSD-ports" Content-Language: en-US To: Gleb Popov , Colin Percival Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org" , FreeBSD Release Engineering Team References: <5d2daa68-cd27-4a56-9d69-5453b588a086@freebsd.org> From: John Baldwin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 8/20/25 01:54, Gleb Popov wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 1:49 AM Colin Percival wrote: >> >> To reduce long-term confusion, I'm intending to rename the "FreeBSD" >> repository to "FreeBSD-ports", and similarly rename "FreeBSD-kmods" to >> "FreeBSD-ports-kmods". > > Having "ports" in the repository name does not make sense to me at > all. Ports are recipes to produce packages, but there are more ways (I > know at least one) to create a pkg package. But the packages in that repo are generated by FreeBSD ports? >> It defines a "FreeBSD" pkg repository which is in fact specifically bits >> maintained *outside* of FreeBSD (and packaged via the ports tree). > > Can't agree with this either. FreeBSD Ports are maintained *inside* > the project as well as package building and hosting infrastructure. It > feels perfectly fine to have a single configuration file named after > the *vendor*, which provides multiple repos maintained by that vendor. What if people only wish to use pkg.freebsd.org for base but not ports or vice versa? -- John Baldwin