svn commit: r330451 - in stable/11/sys: dev/iwm dev/otus dev/usb/wlan net80211

[Alexey Dokuchaev]

On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 10:50:02AM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-03-09 at 11:02 +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> > I often have mixed feelings when I see lots of similar changes (i.e.
> > that make up for better hardware support, esp. on a laptop) MFCed.
> > I'd rather see laptop users run -CURRENT and leave -STABLE branches
> > for very conservative (server?) users who can't/don't want to afford
> > the risks of running -CURRENT or require ABI stability in a really
> > long run, rather than binge-merging things. :-)
> > 
> > By default it should be -CURRENT all over; it's a very good thing
> > that we as a Project ourselves are doing this as part of our own
> > dogfood eating strategy.
> 
> Some of us have to use our freebsd machines to earn a living, and we
> can't afford the time and resources to set our jobs aside and debug
> our working machines on a daily basis.

It's 2018 Ian, -CURRENT is not as much of a flux as it used to be (but
it takes a lot more time to build now).  Disks got larger, filesystems
learned snapshots; one can update their machines and go back easily if
things went south.  Development, collaboration, testing/CI, etc. tools
also got better, people no longer commit their WIP to -CURRENT in hope
that it'll work (at least not as often as 15-20 years ago. :-)

./danfe