svn commit: r344648 - in head: . sys/kern sys/sys

Andriy Gapon avg at FreeBSD.org
Sat Jun 1 08:08:40 UTC 2019


On 01/06/2019 03:46, Warner Losh wrote:
> When we move to git, stuff like this just won't matter. So it's hard to get
> worked up about it now... and even if we weren't heading that way, the history
> preserved is so small as to say more than "meh" here. There is too little ROI to
> get worked up about.

Still, even a token reply would have been nice.  Much better than starting to
ignore *everything* that a fellow developer writes.
"Yeah, looks like I screwed up.  But fixing it is more work than it's worth.
Sorry about that.  Thanks."

> On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:56 PM Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling at kev009.com
> <mailto:kevin.bowling at kev009.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The vast majority of contributors don't enjoy nit-picking on these
>     trivialities. If the broader developer community is not rallying for
>     the revert and some core conspiracy doesn't care about it either, that
>     forms the de facto opinion of the FreeBSD community of today that this
>     is trivial and irrelevant.
> 
>     Yes, there is vocal absolutism on the fringes about SHALLS and MUSTS
>     about all sorts of things aside from modernizing FreeBSD and making it
>     viable on current generation hardware.  These parties might be happier
>     and better aligned with OpenBSD ideologically as well as
>     personalities.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Kevin
> 
>     On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:17 PM Rodney W. Grimes
>     <freebsd at gndrsh.dnsmgr.net <mailto:freebsd at gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > I know of several people that have blocked your mail.  Maybe a moment
>     > > for reflection on your attitude and approach if you want to be taken
>     > > seriously.
>     >
>     > I would consider repository damange and abuse to be VERY serious.
>     > I would also consider the treatmeant I am seeing of danfe boarder
>     > line on contempt.
>     > But then I also know there are probably some that have blocked me.
>     > The project, sadly is spiraling around a toilet, and someone is about to
>     flush....
>     >
>     > It is not what you hear, it is what you are not hearing that makes me say
>     these things...
>     > And espcially what core seams to not be willing to hear, and is literly (I
>     can proove this)
>     > paying lip service to "solicited feedback".
>     >
>     > I asked about some of my solicited feedback, and a core member said he
>     > could not find it in his inbox and that I needed to locate and provide
>     > him a pointer to it.  THAT my friends is not solicited feedback, that is
>     > /dev/null of feedback and just plain out right unexcusable.
>     >
>     > And note above all else the "product" of the FreeBSD project is NOT
>     > releases, it IS the repository, and if we get sloppy with that product
>     > it makes life harder for our consumers.  If you have ever tried to
>     > find the history of a deleted object (which is what the process being
>     > complained about here creaetes) it is a royal PITA.
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     > Rod
>     >
>     > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe at freebsd.org
>     <mailto:danfe at freebsd.org>> wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:20:50PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote:
>     > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:11:36AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>     > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:11:40PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>     > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:47:51AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>     > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:56:55PM +0000, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
>     > > > > > > > > New Revision: 344648
>     > > > > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/344648
>     > > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > > Log:
>     > > > > > > > >   Rename seq to seqc to avoid namespace clashes with Linux
>     > > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > > ...
>     > > > > > > > > Added:
>     > > > > > > > >   head/sys/sys/seqc.h   (contents, props changed)
>     > > > > > > > > Deleted:
>     > > > > > > > >   head/sys/sys/seq.h
>     > > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > > Why it was deleted and added as new file instead of being
>     repocopied?
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > Retransmit.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Ping!
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Do you have nothing better to do?
>     > > >
>     > > > Oh, I have a lot on my plate, thanks for asking.  Now, back to the
>     subject:
>     > > >
>     > > > - I think that this commit was executed badly (not via repocopy)
>     > > > - I've been trying to contact mjg@ for several weeks, to no avail :(
>     > > > - All I get in return is an email from a fellow committer asking me
>     > > >   if I have anything better to do
>     > > >
>     > > > Sorry, I don't understand this.  I don't understand why we ignore email
>     > > > from our own community.  I don't understand why we do not correct or at
>     > > > least explain why what looks like a mistake is actually not(?).  I don't
>     > > > understand why I'm being ridiculed, not those who make dubious commits
>     > > > and fail to defend them.
>     > > >
>     > > > ./danfe
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>     >
>     > --
>     > Rod Grimes                                               
>      rgrimes at freebsd.org <mailto:rgrimes at freebsd.org>
> 


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