svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh

[Dmitry Sivachenko]

> On 5 марта 2015 г., at 15:35, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:33:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:30:16PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:21:03PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> S> > S> > S> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 10:01:45PM +0000, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> S> > S> > S> > B> Author: bapt
> S> > S> > S> > B> Date: Wed Mar  4 22:01:44 2015
> S> > S> > S> > B> New Revision: 279603
> S> > S> > S> > B> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/279603
> S> > S> > S> > B> 
> S> > S> > S> > B> Log:
> S> > S> > S> > B>   r* commands are not precious anymore
> S> > S> > S> > B>
> S> > S> > S> > B> Modified:
> S> > S> > S> > B>   head/bin/rcp/Makefile
> S> > S> > S> > B>   head/usr.bin/rlogin/Makefile
> S> > S> > S> > 
> S> > S> > S> > I guess when they are going to be not precious enough to be removed? :)
> S> > S> > S> > 
> S> > S> > S> > In modern world of ssh and https, does any OS require them in base?
> S> > S> > S> 
> S> > S> > S> yes.
> S> > S> > S> Some telecom equipment require rlogin.
> S> > S> > 
> S> > S> > Other telecom equipment require a JRE and special .jar to
> S> > S> > configure them. Does that mean operating systems must ship
> S> > S> > them?
> S> > S> 
> S> > S> Yes, if ships before (don't break if working).
> S> > S> Some Linux distro remove telnet from default install.
> S> > S> Do you like to remove telnet also?
> S> > 
> S> > Yes.
> S> 
> S> And how to test open/listing ports/sockets?!
> 
> nc(1), which is a pure socket testing tool. For telnet(1) this
> capability is a side effect.
> 
> S> How to connect to mpd control socket?!
> 
> pkg install mpd5 telnet
> 

OMG, please do not make nightmare one have on Linux or Solaris.  Everything can be installed form packages but it is so inconvenient!

It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box.  Does it hurt you?  Having all these things in base is so cool, please do not make Lego constructor everyone must use.
Disks are so large and cheap these days.