svn commit: r228785 - in head/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal: ar5210 ar5211

Pawel Jakub Dawidek pjd at FreeBSD.org
Thu Dec 22 09:27:17 UTC 2011


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:27:54PM +0000, Alexander Best wrote:
> the commits should stay. after all this is HEAD. this way all developers
> running HEAD and with the appropriate ath hardware will test the changes. if
> dim@ really broke something, people will notice.
> 
> the changes should *not* be MFC'ed. but if no one complains until 10.0-RELEASE,
> it's very unlikely he broke something.
> 
> plus...does it make a different, if you test HEAD with the changes present or
> test HEAD with the changes integrated via patches?
> 
> one way or the other you can test the changes and *if* something broke, the
> commits can be reverted.

Is this a joke? Having HEAD as stable as possible is very important.
That's the only way to actually expect people (including developers
(including myself!)) to run HEAD on their laptops and less important
servers. Those people get upset as any other user if their systems stop
working, because untested changes are being committed.

This is not to pick on Dimitry, but on those who actually believe that
it is ok to commit untested changes to HEAD. IT IS NOT. Maybe you are
just confused, because the place you are looking for seems to be
junkyard, but not HEAD, NEVER HEAD!

BTW. This is a lesson we learned from 5-CURRENT. It was so unstable that
nobody wanted to run it, and so unstable it was even hard to test
changes on it. In turn it was becoming even more unstable, because
people kept committing more untested code.

Please, do never, ever encourage evil like that or I'll turn on mean Pawel:)

-- 
Pawel Jakub Dawidek                       http://www.wheelsystems.com
FreeBSD committer                         http://www.FreeBSD.org
Am I Evil? Yes, I Am!                     http://yomoli.com
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