svn commit: r228143 - in head: . share/mk tools/build/options
Doug Barton
dougb at FreeBSD.org
Wed Dec 21 18:50:43 UTC 2011
On 12/20/2011 9:59 PM, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 09:30:10PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Steve Kargl
>> <sgk at troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 06:45:07PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
>>>> On 12/20/2011 18:29, Ben Kaduk wrote:
>>>>> 2011/12/20 Doug Barton <dougb at freebsd.org>:
>>>>>> On 12/20/2011 06:08, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>>>> The defaults for src.conf should be for the common case
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed. The problem we seem to be missing here is that developers are
>>>>>> not even statistically significant in measuring "the common case."
>>>>>
>>>>> "The common case" of what, though? ?"People using src.conf", or
>>>>> "people rebuilding world", or just "people using FreeBSD"?
>>>>
>>>> The latter of course. The overwhelming majority of FreeBSD users will
>>>> never use profiled libs, and in fact don't even know what they are. It's
>>>> just useless space being taken up on every install. The defaults should
>>>> be sensible for our users.
>>>
>>> OK, Doug, we get it! You don't like profiled libraries.
>>> You don't use them, and by extension the 'common user'
>>> does not use them.
It's not about me. :) (And by extension, it's not about you either.)
>> The point that I was trying to drive home (that I think Doug is as well) is:
>> - How many FreeBSD users are developers/performance/test engineers who
>> care about this stuff being compiled into the base system?
>
> Don't know. I haven't seen a statistically meaningful poll of
> the FreeBSD user base on which to draw an answer. I suspect that
> neither you nor Doug have seen such a poll.
Oh please. It doesn't take a poll to know that the overwhelming majority
of FreeBSD installs are servers or end-user systems.
> Neither the time to build profiled libraries nor the diskspace
> used is significant.
Great, so why is it such a problem for you to build them?
Doug
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