svn commit: r228143 - in head: . share/mk tools/build/options

Doug Barton dougb at FreeBSD.org
Wed Dec 21 02:45:10 UTC 2011


On 12/20/2011 18:29, Ben Kaduk wrote:
> 2011/12/20 Doug Barton <dougb at freebsd.org>:
>> On 12/20/2011 06:08, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> The defaults for src.conf should be for the common case
>>
>> Agreed. The problem we seem to be missing here is that developers are
>> not even statistically significant in measuring "the common case."
> 
> "The common case" of what, though?  "People using src.conf", or
> "people rebuilding world", or just "people using FreeBSD"?

The latter of course. The overwhelming majority of FreeBSD users will
never use profiled libs, and in fact don't even know what they are. It's
just useless space being taken up on every install. The defaults should
be sensible for our users.

The people who actually need to use profiled libs intersects perfectly
with the set of people who know how to enable the knob in src.conf.
Disabling this by default is a total no-brainer. The fact that it's
generated such vehement objection by a miniscule percentage of our user
base (read, the developers who still use them) is clearly indicative of
a much larger problem. I think Warner summed it up best: "The needs of
the many?  Please."

The battle between the forces who see FreeBSD primarily as a hobby
project ("We're the developers, we do what we like because we like it.")
vs. those who'd like to move things in a direction that's more focused
on the "unwashed masses" who actually use the thing, has been going on
for a long time. This issue is a good example.


Doug (and a sad one)

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