*** HEADS UP *** FreeBSD.org commit mail list changes

Vadim Goncharov vadim_nuclight at mail.ru
Wed Oct 8 11:09:57 UTC 2008

08.10.08 @ 05:54 Kevin Oberman wrote:

>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:47:08 -0700
>> From: "Peter Wemm" <peter at wemm.org>
>> Sender: owner-svn-src-all at freebsd.org
>> *** HEADS UP ***
> Thanks for the POLA violation. I think this will cause far fewer
> problems than making every subscriber update manually and I'm not even
> sure it is a violation. I'd find not getting src commit messages very
> astonishing!
> Anyone who read cvs-src should really be able to handle this change
> without all that much upset.

What the fuck?!

I've had cvs-src@ set to nomail, could write but msgs were not delivered.  
I've read them via Gmane, my NNTP newsreader offers very flexible way to  
filter them. Now, mail lists are switched WITHOUT 'nomail', and my local  
hard drive is being spammed, instead of NNTP (and freebsd.org also wastes  
resources fot that, eh?). And worse, I just CAN'T disable it again: when I  
trying to login to http://lists.freebsd.org for svn-src-all@, it simply  
says about authorization error!

Moreover, this change is pain in the ass for all users who don't care  
about SVN switch - while CVSUP/CSUP is in use, it is not-so-worth to care.  
And it is now more difficult to manage for those who were used to cvs-all@  
- a bunch of lists instead of one. Mailman DOESN'T give me interface to  
manage all my subscriptions at once - I must go and login for every one!

I've heard several complains about this spamming change on local IRC  

Breaking POLA is bad.

WBR, Vadim Goncharov

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