svn commit: r504198 - head/Mk

Piotr Kubaj pkubaj at anongoth.pl
Sat Jun 15 16:47:13 UTC 2019


Actually, POWER is actively develeped.

There is POWER9 (released in 2017) and POWER10 is coming in next year. There is a renewed interest in POWER platform with Raptor's boards that people use for desktops.

There are also plans for POWER10-based laptop, so POWER is far from being dead.

On 19-06-15 09:33:39, Cy Schubert wrote:
>In message <20190615134332.GA32655 at FreeBSD.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev
>writes:
>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 06:13:46AM +0000, Mark Linimon wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 05:58:22PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> > > These old GCC releases are often the only working solution for ports
>> > > on sparc64/powerpc
>> >
>> > I'm not aware of the powerpc dependencies.  Do you have a list?
>> > We are actively working on ports on powerpc (especially powerpc64).
>>
>> Actually, things look better on powerpc, last time I recall I was able
>> to successfully build gcc7 port for it.  Typically I'd use earlier
>> versions because they take less tmpfs space and faster to build.
>>
>> > w/rt sparc64, I no longer consider sparc64 viable.  There is too much
>> > pushback whenever I mention it.  My development machines were powered
>> > down 1.5 years ago as I turned my attention primarily to powerpc64
>> > and to some extent arm*.
>>
>> That's very sad.  I've been fixing some BROKEN_sparc64 ports in the
>> early 2018 using QEMU.  It was very slow, but worked fine overall.
>> I forgot exactly which FreeBSD version I was able to boot.
>
>You can thank Oracle for that. Sure the handwriting was on the wall,
>Oracle pretty much set the tone with the various decisions they've made
>regarding Sparc and Solaris. At $JOB the push retire Sparc is
>noticeable. One would think that they are being encouraged to replace
>Sparc (& PowerPC) with x86 on Linux but even that is being discouraged
>in favour of docker images using the Linux or Windows ABI. Sadly
>traditional platforms are a thing of the past, current platforms will
>soon be, to be replaced by layers of stubs. Not that I agree with it
>but it is an observation.
>
>Where this will end up is anybody's guess but the transformation is
>seismic. The gig economy plays into this as well, as witnessed how
>contracts for development of microservices are contracted out here.
>
>
>-- 
>Cheers,
>Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
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>
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