svn commit: r491810 - in head/editors/vim: . files

[Cy Schubert]

On February 1, 2019 7:37:31 AM PST, Torsten Zuehlsdorff <freebsd at toco-domains.de> wrote:
>
>
>On 01.02.19 16:24, Cy Schubert wrote:
>> In message <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066 at toco-domains.de>, 
>> Torsten Zueh
>> lsdorff writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01.02.19 15:47, Cy Schubert wrote:
>>>> On February 1, 2019 6:02:44 AM PST, Adam Weinberger
><adamw at freebsd.org> wro
>>> te:
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:58 AM Alexey Dokuchaev
><danfe at freebsd.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Adam Weinberger wrote:
>>>>>>> New Revision: 491810
>>>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/491810
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>   Update vim to patchlevel 865
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   After discussion on freebsd-ports@, switch the default UI
>toolkit
>>>>>>>   from GTK2 to GTK3. There isn't a huge visual difference, so
>it's
>>>>>>>   more predicated on the idea that people are more likely to
>have
>>>>>>>   GTK3 already installed for other things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I believe it's more likely that people have GTK+2
>>>>> installed,
>>>>>> not 3.  That said, however, perhaps the best way out would be
>>>>> flavoring
>>>>>> the port so it offers both packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure that there's a huge benefit to offering multiple UI
>>>>> toolkit packages. There's not much difference between the GTK2 and
>the
>>>>> GTK3 interface. Perhaps I mischaracterized the situation; it is
>>>>> definitely correct to say that the discussion on freebsd-ports@
>>>>> revealed nearly unanimous agreement that people would prefer GTK3
>be
>>>>> the default.
>>>>>
>>>>> # Adam
>>>>
>>>> The big difference from a user's perspective is the scroll bar,
>specificall
>>> y middle button behavior.  IMO a regression. 
>>>
>>> After the switch to GTK-3 i have no scroll bar at all. "at all"
>means in
>>> kate, libreoffice, dolphin and all other kde/gtk-3 - applications.
>:D
>> 
>> Hmm. Firefox uses GTK-3. It has a scrollbar. If I play with it, as in
>
>> put the cursor toward the middle of the slider, it does work. It's
>not 
>> as easy as Motif or GTK-2 are. I think this is an attempt by GUI 
>> developers to use one code base for mobile, notebook, and desktop. 
>> Compromises that are clunky at best.
>> 
>> Have you tried scrolling using the wheel? It might "magically"
>appear.
>
>Mh, Firefox and Thunderbird still have scroll bars. I did not realize
>that they use GTK 3.
>
>Kate has something like an "mini map" at the right but no scroll bar.
>Libreoffice has no scroll bars, too. I can scroll with the mouse wheel
>or with the cursor. But this does not make a scroll bar appear.
>
>Greetings,
>Torsten

That's probably an application thing. A scroll bar is a widget and each widget normally needs a callback. It's likely the app developers didn't bother to implement one.

-- 
Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use.
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert at cschubert.com>
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