svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d
Philippe Audéoud
jadawin at FreeBSD.org
Mon Dec 2 20:27:14 UTC 2013
On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, Mark Linimon wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 04:04:12PM +0100, John Marino wrote:
> > 3. This is the clause that needs updating. It gives too much power
> > to the listed MAINTAINER. It could and should allow others to fix the
> > port if it restores the port to how the maintainer intended. [...]
> > Some of this "power" needs to be clawed back.
>
> The problem is (from a past portmgr's viewpoint) is that there is no
> "perfect" way to word a set of rules. A corollary is that sometimes
> if you try, you wind up with a lot of words that no one reads :-)
>
> While on portmgr I maintained a deliberate bias in favor of existing
> maintainers. My reasoning is that contributing to FreeBSD is sometimes
> hard and thankless, and if someone just hears too much negative feedback,
> they may just find something else better to do. (This has been my
> experience with other volunteer efforts). OTOH we really should expect
> "best effort" from our maintainers, and if not, ask them to step down.
> I don't think this was the case here.
>
> Yes, doing so sometimes meant having to ask people to wait the two weeks
> before taking an action, even if I personally agreed that the change was
> obvious/needed/sane/etc.
>
> It's just a problem with different ways of working and different ways of
> communicating, aggravated by making assumptions. As we can see in this
> thread, it doesn't always work right. There's no "fix" except realizing
> that we're human and make mistakes.
>
> My two cents. I no longer have any official position, so take it for
> what it's worth :-)
>
> mcl
Thanks for sharing.
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Philippe Audeoud
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