PERFORCE change 167260 for review

Julian Elischer julian at elischer.org
Wed Aug 12 22:44:52 UTC 2009


Marko Zec wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 23:58:46 Julian Elischer wrote:
>> Marko Zec wrote:
> ...
>>> @@ -710,22 +715,36 @@
>>>  	.pr_input =		div_input,
>>>  	.pr_ctlinput =		div_ctlinput,
>>>  	.pr_ctloutput =		ip_ctloutput,
>>> -	.pr_init =		NULL,
>>> +	.pr_init =		div_init,
>>>  	.pr_usrreqs =		&div_usrreqs
>> If you are going to make pr_init() called for every vnet then
>> pr_destroy should be as well. But in fact that is not really safe.
>> (either of them)
>>
>> The trouble is that we can not guarantee that other protocols can
>> handle being called multiple times in their init and destroy methods.
>> Especially 3rd party protocols.
>>
>> We need to ensure only protocols that have been converted to run
>> with multiple vnets are ever called with multiple vnets.
>>
>> for this reason the only safe way to do this is via the VNET_SYSINIT
>> and VNET_SYSUNINIT calls.
> 
> That would mean you would have to convert most if not all of the existing 
> things that hang off of protosw-s in netinet, netinet6 etc. to use 
> VNET_SYSINT / VNET_SYSUNIT instead of protosw->pr_init().  So the short 
> answer is no.


robert has done just that.

> 
> I cannot recall that we ever discussed or planned to be able to mix 
> virtualized with non-virtualized protocols in the same kernel.  That would be 
> a horrible mess, and I cannot even imagine having say a multi-instance INET 
> with a single-instance INET6 kernel, shared among all the vnets.  To start 
> with, how would you decide that you're not allowed to process an IPv6 packet 
> received on the wire in a non-default vnet in such an environment?  Do we 
> have the infrastructure in place necessary for preventing doing say a 
> ifconfig lo0 ::1 in a non-default vnet in such an hypotetical setup?  The 
> answer is no.
> 


I agree that it is horrible and we have not said that it will all work

> VNET_SYSINIT is nice, but proper special-casing changes required to support 
> single-instance protocols to work only with vnet0 and not with the other 
> protocols are simply not there, and I hope will never be, because I fear they 
> would be highly intrusive, difficult to verify and maintain, and probably 
> also have an impact on performance.
> 
> A proper solution for the issue you are raising could be something that would 
> prevent modules assuming our stack is compiled as single-instance to be 
> kldloaded if the kernel was actually built with multi-instance stack support.  
> I think Robert (cc-ed) had some ideas on how to accomplish this by having 
> such modules depend on a magic global variable (say __no_vnet_support) to be 
> available.
> 
> All the current "base" protocols are already using pr_init() in multi-instance 
> mode in options VIMAGE case.  So I see no reason for ip_divert not being 
> allowed to leverage on the same mechanism.
> 
> Re. pr_destroy(), you're right, patch already submitted to p4...
> 
> Marko



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