100s of xorg ports, will there be an xorg-base port?
Michael Nottebrock
lofi at freebsd.org
Sun Jul 8 02:23:32 UTC 2007
On Saturday, 7. July 2007, Evren Yurtesen wrote:
> > Please explain what the problem is. If you choose to install the xorg
> > metaport then the ports system will automatically fetch and install the
> > dependencies. Exactly what aren't "most people" happy about?
>
> I guess it is mostly psychological but people do not tend to like a lot
> of ports installed with each app as usually this means more difficulties
> when upgrading etc. Maybe this is superficial but at the least it is
> discouraging people from using X with FreeBSD or upgrading to 7.2.
> People are not happy because of the simple reason that one has to
> install 300-400 more ports (especially without a possibilit to select
> what to not to install) to get X running nowadays.
I believe this is pretty much a non-issue. X.org hasn't really grown in
complexity (at least as far as the end-user is concerned) or size just
because the monolithic ports are no more. I am rather certain future X.org
updates won't be nearly as involved, if at all, as the monolithic 6.9 ->
modular 7.2 transition.
Also I suspect you underestimate the problems a stripped down installation of
X.org can bring on machines running the actual server, which seems to the
kind of installations you have in mind. X.org is not very good yet at telling
exactly what is missing if some particular feature/extension or driver the
user wants happens not to be installed, neither are most users familiar
enough with X to make a well-informed decision what components they really
want when faced with an options menu.
Augmenting X.org with some sort of plug'n'play front-end for hardware
detection and automatic driver installation therefore might be a worthwhile
project, but it's probably outside the scope of a port Makefile.
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