New logo on web page progress?

[Devon H. O'Dell]

2006/1/15, Marc Fonvieille <blackend at freebsd.org>:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 06:26:04PM +0100, Fabian Keil wrote:
> > >
> > > You could also resize your Firefox to be a little wider. You got some
> > > free screen estate to the left of it.
> >
> > 1. If I would resize Firefox it would overlap the pager in the left
> >    corner. I need the free space, I often have windows open in the
> >    background and I want to be able to see and activate them there.
> >
> > 2. If I resize Firefox, nothing changes. The layout is still broken and
> >    it doesn't care about the size of the browser window. If I increase
> >    the width I get more unused space on the right and left side.
> >
> >    See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Photos-20060109.html for some
> >    horrible examples.
> >
> > 3. Most important, you can't expect the user to change his browser
> >    window (or anything else on his system) just to read your site.
> >
> >    What if my resolution would be 800x600 or even lower?
> >
>
> It has been discussed many times, Fabian is right: there is a problem.
> We are still waiting for a decent solution.
>
> Marc

The problem is that there's no solution. Using percentage based fonts
is a _huge_ pain for people who don't override their browser font
settings, especially when these are sizing them to a sub-100% font,
making things unreadable. If you use fixed-size fonts, the issue stays
that the people who do set their font sizes higher get pissy because
your font is smaller. It's a lose-lose situation.

The number of people who use 800x600 combined with the number of
people who change the minimum default font size of the browser are
fewer than the people at 1024x768 and up with normal browser settings.
Do we cater to everybody? Do we piss some people off? I don't know.
This is why it's usually a good idea to just _do_ the work and let
things get fixed later. Most people won't notice it, and if they do,
hopefully they'll be helpful enough to come up with a solution
themselves.

This is why we transitioned the site without too much
pre-site-transition hubbub. Had that been brought up, people'd have
shot it down immediately. (And there were a number of PRs that came in
afterwards from people who tried anyway.)

My point is that we're a big project with a very diverse, technical
user base of people who all think that the way they do things is the
right way. The solution, in my opinion, is to pick one, go with it,
and pick up the pieces later. If your toes get stepped on, deal with
it. You have to pay more taxes than you would like to as well.

--Devon