Open Vs Free BSD

[Eric Furman]

BWAAAHAHAHAHAH, what a bunch of  retards
Please stop sending this crap to OBSD lists.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:55:14 +0200, "Holger Kipp"
<holger.kipp at alogis.com> said:
> Daniel Bolgheroni schrieb:
> > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Holger Kipp wrote:
> >   
> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 09:47:35AM +0100, Michal wrote:
> >>
> >> For the masses:
> >>
> >> - NetBSD: Run on any hardware (including toasters)
> >> - OpenBSD: Be as secure as possible
> >> - FreeBSD: provide best system for x86-platforms
> >>     
> >
> > It's a mistake to make this association.
> >   
> I don't think so:
> 
> *NetBSD say on their website:*
> NetBSD is a free, fast, secure, and _highly_portable_ Unix-like Open 
> Source operating system. It is available for a 
> _wide_range_of_platforms_, from large-scale servers and powerful desktop 
> systems to handheld and embedded devices. Its clean design and advanced 
> features make it excellent for use in both production and research 
> environments, and the source code is freely available under a 
> business-friendly license.
> 
> *OpenBSD say on their website:*
> The OpenBSD project produces a *FREE*, multi-platform 4.4BSD-based 
> UNIX-like operating system. Our efforts emphasize portability, 
> standardization, correctness, proactive security 
> <http://www.openbsd.org/security.html> and integrated cryptography 
> <http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html>.
> 
> *FreeBSD say on their website:*
> FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for _x86_compatible (including 
> Pentium. and Athlon^(TM)), _amd64_compatible_ (including Opteron^(TM), 
> Athlon^(TM)64, and EM64T), ARM, IA-64, PowerPC, PC-98 and UltraSPARC. 
> architectures.
> [..]
> With over 20,000 ported libraries and applications 
> <http://www.freebsd.org/applications.html>, FreeBSD supports 
> applications for desktop, server, appliance, and embedded environments.
> 
> 
> Actually I like it this way, because every BSD variant has a different 
> focus and is trying different ways to solve problems or fullfill user 
> requirements. Whatever turns out to be best will be incorporated into 
> the other *BSDs whenever the need arises. Each of the mentioned BSDs has 
> its advantages and disadvantages, so what? Choose the system you seem 
> best suited for your needs. Afaik some developers are also working on 
> several BSD-flavours.
> > OpenBSD people chose "security" as an argument to describe what the OS 
> > is. It's true and I believe it can attract more users, but on the other 
> > side, people seem to think OpenBSD is ONLY used when you need security, 
> > like a firewall, router, etc.
> >   
> OpenBSD was a fork of NetBSD but is having more of a focus on security. 
> This is a good thing. We might not have OpenSSH, PF etc. without it. 
> Afaik OpenBSD however is using a simple Giant Lock for MP which FreeBSD 
> got rid of some time ago (wasn't an easy task) which now results in very 
> good scalability of FreeBSD on MP systems. I have not checked how NetBSD 
> is handling MP and have also not conducted any performance tests in this 
> area, though.
> > OpenBSD is a GENERIC OS which can be used to do _almost_ every task a 
> > computer system is able to.
> >   
> This is true for all unix-like (and many other) operating systems. I 
> don't see the point here.
> 
> The OP did not intend to start a flame war, and I don't either. I like 
> OpenBSD (because of the security features and supported platforms). I 
> like NetBSD (because of the supported platforms - especially RiscPCs - 
> and the clean implementation). I like FreeBSD because of the many 
> available ports (which in the past was a reason to choose FreeBSD over 
> NetBSD or OpenBSD on x86-hardware) and for other reasons. There is no 
> general "a is better than b" here. It all depends on the requirements 
> and what you're familiar with.
> 
> I prefer FreeBSD because I have ipf, ipfw and pf to chose from, it has 
> good MP support, ZFS and never let me down since 2.2.8.
> I also use OpenBSD and NetBSD occasionally and support their projects by 
> buying their CDs and T-Shirts ever now and then.
> 
> Best regards,
> Holger
>