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[Chris H.]

Quoting Paul Schmehl <pauls at utdallas.edu>:

> --On Monday, March 03, 2008 02:20:49 -0800 "Chris H." 
> <chris#@1command.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would assert that FreeBSD is first and foremost a Server OS.
>> The fact that it can also provide a full blown desktop, is so much
>> the better.
>> In this context, I believe that it makes more sense to place the
>> server related install on the first disc. This makes it possible
>> to install a server with the least amount of effort. It /also/
>> makes it quite possible for a would-be desktop user to likely
>> only need to exchange discs /one/ time. As the most frequently
>> used desktop items will fit onto their own disc (one disc).
>>
>
> While I would agree with you in principle, I doubt seriously you 
> could be a "server" OS on one disk.  What server are we talking 
> about?  Web?  Email? Webmail?  Database?  FTP?  File server?  Home 
> directory server?  DNS server? Collaboration server?  Combination of 
> the above?
>
> The possibilities are endless, and I doubt they all fit on one iso.
>
>> Bottom line: this arrangement should ultimately make everyones
>> life easier, and maybe even happier. :)
>>
>
> Feh.  I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that there *is* no *right* 
> way to do this, because it depends entirely upon what the purpose of 
> the box is and what the preferences of the installer are.  Perhaps a 
> DVD iso is the best that can be done.
>
> Personally I don't install packages from the iso.

Nor do I, except to the extent of "jumpstarting" a src && ports
download, followed by c(v)sup and (re)build of anything desired.
As to being able to put a server on 1 CD; given your chosen scenario,
it is quite possible to provide src && ports in source form on 1 CD.
So nothing prevents a "server" install from scratch. On the other
hand; providing a "server" install out of /packages/ requires a bit
more discretion - exactly /which/ packages should be chosen to be the
"defacto" "server". That should be accomplished in the same fashion
that they have (already?) decided - those /most/ chosen by users
based on some form of statistical data. The sources for stats are
many, and I'm sure it's not /too/ difficult to determine the best
one(s) to choose from.
But of course;

You can please some of the people, some of the time.
But you can't please /all/ of the people, /all/ of the time.

However, in /this/ scenario, I'm pretty sure you can please /most/
of the people /most/ of the time. :)

--Chris H


> I update ports to current and compile from source.  So I don't really 
> care what's on the isos, but, as the OP pointed out, not everyone has 
> the luxury of an internet connection when they're doing an install, 
> so effort in this area is probably warranted.  I just don't think 
> that *any* solution will satisfy everyone (short of a DVD, which 
> *may* be able to hold everything.
>
> -- 
> Paul Schmehl (pauls at utdallas.edu)
> Senior Information Security Analyst
> The University of Texas at Dallas
> http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
>
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