filesystems not properly unmounted [OT]
ronald-freebsd8 at klop.yi.org
Tue Jun 7 22:34:51 GMT 2005
Did you guys already unmount your filesystem?
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 17:48:26 +0200, Oliver Fromme <olli at lurza.secnetix.de>
> Yuval Levy <yuval_levy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > > I do look carefully every day, because it's my job. I work
> > > with various operating systems every day, including FreeBSD
> > > and Linux.
> > From a professional I would expect a more mature and balanced
> > rather than "my favorite OS is the best one and the others have no
> > advantages".
> That's not what I wrote. FreeBSD is not "the best". There
> is no such thing as "the best", in general.
> > Be real: there is a lot of diversity of OS out there and
> > they all have advantages and disadvantages.
> Right. Everyone has to decide for himself which tool works
> best for his job.
> > > Yup, I know the usual freebsd-for-servers and linux-for-
> > > desktops arguments. And to be honest, I'm fed up with
> > > them. They're lies. I'm running FreeBSD on my desktop
> > > at home, a lot of people are happily running Linux on
> > > their servers, and I've seen people successfully installing
> > > FreeBSD who have never even heard the word "unix" until
> > > that day.
> > You can run FreeBSD on your desktop at home because you have the
> > the time, the dedication.
> For most "standard" applications it doesn't require any
> more skills (or time, or dedication) than with any other
> OS. In fact, getting some applications to work correctly
> under, say, Windows requires more skills (and time, and
> dedication) sometimes.
> > You are special. Every human being is special
> Right. I don't disagree with you there.
> > [...] They do not share your view.
> > I do not share your view. This does not make us liars.
> Uhm, what are you talking about? I've never called you a
> liar. But those people who claim that FreeBSD is only
> suitable for servers and Linux is only suitable for desk-
> tops -- those are liars. There are plenty of counter-
> > I am moving my servers from Linux to FreeBSD, because FreeBSD gives me
> > the manageability, stability and security that are more important to
> > clients than the bleeding edge features that often make it into Linux
> > I am generally inclined toward Open Source software over proprietary
> > one, but will pragmatically mix and match to obtain what works best
> > me rather than dogmatically pretend that my favorite OS is the best
> > its filesystem is the brightest and its license is the only acceptable
> > distribution form.
> I agree 100%.
> Most of "my" machines (i.e. the machines which I own or
> which I'm responsible for to operate) run FreeBSD, but some
> also run Linux (Debian), Solaris or Windows. I used to
> have OpenBSD, too, but it stopped working for me (a long
> story). And currently I'm evaluating to move one of my
> privat machines from FreeBSD to DragonFly BSD, because
> some of its features would be very useful.
> Still, of all of those systems, FreeBSD is (currently) my
> favourite. It's particularly versatile to work well for
> all kinds of different purposes, including servers _and_
> > Which brings me back to the topic of this thread: is there anybody out
> > there with the skills to cleanly solve this shameful situation in
> > rebooting FreeBSD results in unclean mounting of ext2 (and potentially
> > other) volumes?
> A umount command in rc.shutdown should be a feasible
> Fixing the driver is probably not a high-priority, because
> not many users are affected by the problem, I guess.
> (But then again: It's open source, so you can try to fix
> it yourself.)
> Best regards
> PS: I think this should rather move to the -chat list.
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