Firewire on STABLE: Sane for drive-based backups?

Daniel O'Connor doconnor at gsoft.com.au
Mon Oct 13 07:11:04 PDT 2003


<Hidetoshi Shimokawa CC'd>

I left the original message in tact to help with debugging.

On Monday 13 October 2003 17:04, Stephen Hilton wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Jason Fesler <jfesler at gigo.com> wrote:
> > I did not have much luck on digging through the archives. Does anyone
> > have any sucess stories on using external firewire drives on the stable
> > branch of freebsd?  Does hot swap work?  Can I mount, dd or ufsdump or
> > newfs/rsync, then umount and unplug it cleanly?
> >
> > I'm considering my options for doing once-a-month backups, and tape just
> > totally blows the budget.  I'm currently using a second drive to produce
> > snapshots, but that doens't leave me with any off-site backups without
> > taking the system down to swap drives.
>
> I have been using a Buslink 1394 Firewire HD model #FW80 72E on 2
> 4-STABLE systems for backup. The Firewire ports are onbord on an
> ASUS P4PE and an ASUS P3B-1394 motherboard.
>
> Mounting and unmounting works fine, I do have troubles with hot swapping
> though.
>
>
> On the ASUS P3B-1394 system
>
> FreeBSD 4.9-RC cvsup'd and built/installed today
>
> Snips from my dmesg.boot
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> fwohci0: <Texas Instruments TSB12LV22> mem
> 0xcb000000-0xcb003fff,0xcb800000-0xcb8007ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
> fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
> fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4.
> fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:00:00:16:bd
> fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports.
> fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
> firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
> sbp0: <SBP2/SCSI over firewire> on firewire0
> fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
> fwohci0: BUS reset
> fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
> firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me)
> firewire0: bus manager 1 (me)
>
> sym0: <895> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem
> 0xc9800000-0xc9800fff,0xca000000-0xca0000ff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
> sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
> firewire0: New S400 device ID:0030e001e000177c
> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a
> da2 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da2: <Oxford S OXFORD IDE Devic 0132> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4
> device da2: 50.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da2: 76319MB (156301488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 9729C)
> da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> da0: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S96H> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
> da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C)
> da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> da1: <SEAGATE ST39173LW 6246> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
> da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing
> Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> SCSI stuff from my kernel config file
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> # using SCSI-IDE atapicam emulation for DVD/CDRW access.
> device          atapicam        # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto via
> CAM # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass)
>
> # SCSI Controllers
> device          sym0            # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
> device          scbus0 at sym0
> device          da0 at scbus0 target 0
> device          da1 at scbus0 target 1
> options         SYM_SETUP_SCSI_DIFF     #-HVD support for 825a, 875, 885
> options         SCSI_DELAY=3000         #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
>                                         # disabled:0 (default), enabled:1
> # SCSI peripherals
> device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required)
> device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
> device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
> device          cd              # CD
> device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
>
> # Firewire support
> device          firewire        # Firewire bus code
> device          sbp             # SCSI over Firewire (Requires scbus and
> da) # device        fwe             # Ethernet over Firewire
> (non-standard!)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On bootup with my firewire drive plugged in everything is fine.
>
> Unplugging the firewire cable gives this in my console:
> fwohci0: BUS reset
> fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode
> firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
> firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
>
> plugging the firewire cable back in gives this:
> fwohci0: BUS reset
> fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode
> fwohci0: SID Error
>
> At this point I cannot mount the firewire drive anymore.

I haven't see SID Error. The chipset I normally use is the
Agere/Lucent one
fwohci0: <Lucent FW322/323> mem 0xdc042000-0xdc042fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0

but I do have a
fwohci0: <Texas Instruments TSB12LV26> mem 0xe9020000-0xe9023fff,0xe9026000-0xe90267ff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0

Both work with the Mapower enclosure, the guts of which is a
Sep  2 07:35:53 current kernel: da0: <Wise Adv Wise Advanced ID 0129> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 device

And a USB2/Firewire enclosure which looks like
Apr 26 12:56:05 alwinrc /kernel: da0: <Oxford 911D 0037> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 device

Although I have not verified that the latter enclosure works with the Ti
PCI card.
I have tried the Ti card in current but not stable, however the code is 
pretty similar between the two I believe.

> I have tried using 'fwcontrol -r' but no luck.
>
> Any help or pointers appreciated.

Have you tried a different port?

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