From info at martenvijn.nl Sun Nov 11 14:32:20 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Sun Nov 11 14:32:25 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto Message-ID: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd and maintain images http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD feedback is welcome, Marten From sunrychen at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 17:31:19 2007 From: sunrychen at gmail.com (Sunry Chen) Date: Mon Nov 12 17:31:23 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto Message-ID: On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM, wrote: > From: Marten Vijn > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > and maintain images > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > > feedback is welcome, > > Marten While it's empty? From info at martenvijn.nl Tue Nov 13 03:43:28 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Tue Nov 13 03:43:31 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1194954186.2264.4.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:06 +0800, Sunry Chen wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM, wrote: > > From: Marten Vijn > > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > > and maintain images > > > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > > > > feedback is welcome, > > > > Marten > > While it's empty? Apperently someone needed to wiki to chrash... pitty.. I will fix it later. Marten > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From info at martenvijn.nl Tue Nov 13 04:06:26 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Tue Nov 13 04:06:39 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1194954915.6257.54.camel@z60m.optimlabs.com> References: <1194954186.2264.4.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <1194954915.6257.54.camel@z60m.optimlabs.com> Message-ID: <1194955572.2264.7.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 19:54 +0800, OutbackDingo wrote: > HAHAH sorry for the top post but I actually had a copy saved, so here it > is aye, that helps :) Marten > From outbackdingo at gmail.com Tue Nov 13 04:20:23 2007 From: outbackdingo at gmail.com (OutbackDingo) Date: Tue Nov 13 04:20:28 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1194954186.2264.4.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> References: <1194954186.2264.4.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Message-ID: <1194954915.6257.54.camel@z60m.optimlabs.com> HAHAH sorry for the top post but I actually had a copy saved, so here it is installation ? install FreeBSD 7.0 ISO Just the chapter installation from the FreeBSD handbook fresh Build ? Since 7.0 in stable jet I suggest to build the lasted version. You can skip this and can go to make tinybsd image. update src pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui cat /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile | sed s/CHANGE_THIS// > /root/sup my localmirror is cvsup.nl5.freebsd.org since I live in the Netherlands. Please find a local site. cvsup /root/sup cd /usr/src sudo make buildworld optional strip your kernel cd /sys/i386/conf sudo cp GENERIC MY_KERNEL sudo vi MY_KERNEL build from src cd /usr/src sudo make buildkernel KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL sudo make install KERNCONF=MY_KERNEL reboot in single user mode reboot 1. choose single user mode in the bootmenu mergemaster cd /usr/src make installworld mergemaster -p reboot update ports sudo portsnap fetch sudo portsnap extract make tinybsd image ? cd /usr/src/tools/tools/tools/tinybsd sudo ./tinybsd maintaince on the image ? mount the file sudo mdconfig -a -t vnode -t tinybsd.bin 1. creating md0 sudo mount /dev/md0a /mnt fix current bugs in tinybsd for example sudo cp /etc/mtree/* /mnt/etc/mtree/ or the make ssh keys sudo chroot /mnt /etc/rc.d/sshd exit virutalization ? I use qemu to test my images. installing qemu cd /usr/ports/emulators/qemu sudo make install option kqemu = yes prepare network for qemu I have fxp0 as a nic ifconfig tun create 1. creating tun0 ifconfig bridge create 1. creating bridge 0 ifconfig bridge0 addm tun0 addm fxp0 up load modules kldload aio kqemu booting the image in qemu sudo qemu -hda tinybsd.bin -net nic -net tun 1. bug! ufs:ad0a Distribution ? This make a smaller file for download and more important Window users can write the file on flash or usb drive. See Manual Kaspers site for monowall and specially physdiskwrite. tar -cvjf tinybsd.bin.bz tinybsd.bin writing to disk 1. see dmesg for the correct disk zcat tinybsd.bin.bz | dd of=/dev/ bs=16k From olli at lurza.secnetix.de Tue Nov 13 09:23:14 2007 From: olli at lurza.secnetix.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Tue Nov 13 09:23:23 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1194954915.6257.54.camel@z60m.optimlabs.com> Message-ID: <200711131723.lADHN4B9070807@lurza.secnetix.de> > update src > > pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui That's not necessary. You don't need ot install cvsup. > cvsup /root/sup Use csup(1) instead. No changes to the supfile required. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Gesch?ftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht M?n- chen, HRB 125758, Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "The ITU has offered the IETF formal alignment with its corresponding technology, Penguins, but that won't fly." -- RFC 2549 From info at martenvijn.nl Tue Nov 13 12:22:15 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Tue Nov 13 12:22:18 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1194985322.2264.15.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:06 +0800, Sunry Chen wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 8:00 PM, wrote: > > From: Marten Vijn > > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > > and maintain images > > > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > > > > feedback is welcome, > > > > Marten > > While it's empty? It's back; - changed some points (Helpfull tips) - added more links to the handbook, howto's - closed wiki "edit" acces. Thanks all that helped! kind regard, Marten > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From keramida at freebsd.org Wed Nov 14 17:46:15 2007 From: keramida at freebsd.org (Giorgos Keramidas) Date: Wed Nov 14 17:46:20 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Message-ID: <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > and maintain images > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD Hi Marten, Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is committable or almost committable to CVS? From info at martenvijn.nl Thu Nov 15 10:24:15 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Thu Nov 15 10:24:27 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: > > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > > and maintain images > > > > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > > Hi Marten, > > Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is > committable or almost committable to CVS? > I could try and might use some help in this, I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of them even stopped me doing things :) The question is what would it take? Marten From keramida at freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 11:06:40 2007 From: keramida at freebsd.org (Giorgos Keramidas) Date: Thu Nov 15 11:06:46 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Message-ID: <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> -current dropped from the Cc: list. This is most interesting for freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers. On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn wrote: >On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: >>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd >>> and maintain images >>> >>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD >> >> Hi Marten, >> >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is >> committable or almost committable to CVS? > > I could try and might use some help in this, My original email was an offer to help with the details of doing this. It wasn't explicitly stated, but it is now :) > The question is what would it take? The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it, and describe a few more tricks. What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an article would include, i.e.: - Introduction - What is TinyBSD - Features of TinyBSD - How to obtain TinyBSD - Creating TinyBSD images - Building the base TinyBSD system - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images - Testing TinyBSD images - Updating TinyBSD images This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for potential users of TinyBSD. Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok? Would you add more sections/parts to it? - Giorgos From dirkx at webweaving.org Thu Nov 15 11:52:35 2007 From: dirkx at webweaving.org (Dirk-Willem van Gulik) Date: Thu Nov 15 11:52:40 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <473C99EA.2010501@webweaving.org> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for > tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it, > and describe a few more tricks. > > What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an > article would include, i.e.: > > - Introduction > > - What is TinyBSD > - Features of TinyBSD > > - How to obtain TinyBSD > > - Creating TinyBSD images > > - Building the base TinyBSD system > > - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD > > - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images > > - Testing TinyBSD images > > - Updating TinyBSD images > > This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the > original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for > potential users of TinyBSD. > > Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok? Would you add > more sections/parts to it? One of the more powerful things on the wiki page is the link to qemu; so I would expand on that - i.e add an example efficient debug loop into there; or in fact walkign the user through a 'make' , 'test' and 'fix' and re-test cycle. Dw From remko at elvandar.org Thu Nov 15 12:01:05 2007 From: remko at elvandar.org (Remko Lodder) Date: Thu Nov 15 12:01:12 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto Message-ID: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: >> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd >> > and maintain images >> > >> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD >> >> Hi Marten, >> >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is >> committable or almost committable to CVS? >> > > I could try and might use some help in this, > > I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of > them even stopped me doing things :) > > The question is what would it take? > > Marten Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with the process of the SGML and the like :-) You could start by reading through http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer, which tells about our style requirements and the like, I can review that part for you as well as some basic things and make sure that the SGML etc is in correct shape so that we can eventually import it into the tree (ofcourse it would be great to let others review it as well because more eyes catch more things ;-)) Let me know if you are interested in this! Cheers remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From wb at freebie.xs4all.nl Thu Nov 15 12:26:35 2007 From: wb at freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Thu Nov 15 12:26:39 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> References: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> Message-ID: <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 .. > On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: > >> > a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > >> > and maintain images > >> > > >> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > >> > >> Hi Marten, > >> > >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is > >> committable or almost committable to CVS? > >> > > > > I could try and might use some help in this, > > > > I am not a native english speaker and have dislexia, but neigther of > > them even stopped me doing things :) > > > > The question is what would it take? > > > > Marten > > > Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with the > process of the SGML and the like :-) > > You could start by reading through > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer, which tells about our > style requirements and the like, I can review that part for you as well as > some basic things and make sure that the SGML etc is in correct shape so > that we can eventually import it into the tree (ofcourse it would be great > to let others review it as well because more eyes catch more things ;-)) > > Let me know if you are interested in this! And Marten.. be careful out there.. before you know it they are talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back.. 8-) Wilko -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From jlm at caamora.com.au Thu Nov 15 15:04:32 2007 From: jlm at caamora.com.au (jonathan michaels) Date: Thu Nov 15 15:05:03 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <473C99EA.2010501@webweaving.org>; from Dirk-Willem van Gulik on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0100 References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> <473C99EA.2010501@webweaving.org> Message-ID: <20071116093844.38551@caamora.com.au> greetings, On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0100, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for > > tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it, > > and describe a few more tricks. sorry, for my silly question, but i thought that freebsd-small@ was discontinued/disbanded in favour off a new group called freebsd-embedded@ ?? if this is correct, would not this thread/dissussion be better held in that group or is there soem reason to have this discussin in thsi older/old group ?? i'm just a little more confused than usual .. grin. it would seem to make sence to have a wider target audience, it seems t me, or have i missed teh point or something like that ?? apologies if i have. should have i set teh reply-to: header to 'freebsd-embedded@' ?? most kind regards jonathan -- ================================================================ powered by .. QNX, OS9 and freeBSD -- http://caamora com au/operating system ==== === appropriate solution in an inappropriate world === ==== From info at martenvijn.nl Thu Nov 15 15:40:01 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Thu Nov 15 15:45:04 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:06 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > -current dropped from the Cc: list. This is most interesting for > freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers. included freebsd-embedded@ > > On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn wrote: > >On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: > >>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd > >>> and maintain images > >>> > >>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD > >> > >> Hi Marten, > >> > >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is > >> committable or almost committable to CVS? > > > > I could try and might use some help in this, > > What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an > article would include, i.e.: > > - Introduction > > - What is TinyBSD > - Features of TinyBSD > > - How to obtain TinyBSD > > - Creating TinyBSD images > > - Building the base TinyBSD system > > - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD > > - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images up till here there is quite clear documentation: http://www.tinybsd.org/tinybsd/Documentation > > - Testing TinyBSD images > > - Updating TinyBSD images I could write this, but more as proces to get a image ready for a task. > > This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the > original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for > potential users of TinyBSD. Or should there be somewhere an intergral document containing everthing. Then I would be wise include above documents authors. > Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok? Would you add > more sections/parts to it? There might be some more parts: Common ways on running host: does and don'ts Working with cf-cards (some info I remember from Paul-Henning Kamp from EuroBSD Basel 2005) I 've written today a part on PXE (for net4826) boards with onboard flash. http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/PXEboot related to tinybsd. I have some scripts in pre-alpha than could be examples, in use in bluespot (a tool scanning bluetooth devices) http://bluespot.wifisoft.org In some time I hope to cleanup code far enough to push it to a public svn. Thanks all, Marten > - Giorgos > From info at martenvijn.nl Thu Nov 15 15:44:02 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Thu Nov 15 15:50:32 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071116093844.38551@caamora.com.au> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> <473C99EA.2010501@webweaving.org> <20071116093844.38551@caamora.com.au> Message-ID: <1195170205.3240.50.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:38 +1100, jonathan michaels wrote: > greetings, > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:11:38PM +0100, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > > The wiki page is a good enough text as an initial mini-guide for > > > tinybsd, but I think we can arrange it a bit, expand parts of it, > > > and describe a few more tricks. > > sorry, for my silly question, but i thought that freebsd-small@ was > discontinued/disbanded in favour off a new group called > freebsd-embedded@ ?? > > if this is correct, would not this thread/dissussion be better held in > that group or is there soem reason to have this discussin in thsi > older/old group ?? i'm just a little more confused than usual .. grin. > > it would seem to make sence to have a wider target audience, it seems t > me, or have i missed teh point or something like that ?? apologies if i > have. should have i set teh reply-to: header to 'freebsd-embedded@' ?? > I am not sure what is the best place. I posted the link also on embedded. however most replies where on current/small. I'll keep it on posting on small & embedded, thanks, Marten > most kind regards > > jonathan > From keramida at freebsd.org Thu Nov 15 17:37:01 2007 From: keramida at freebsd.org (Giorgos Keramidas) Date: Thu Nov 15 17:59:29 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20071116012927.GA3646@kobe.laptop> On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte wrote: >Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 .. >>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: >>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is >>>> committable or almost committable to CVS? >>> >>> I could try and might use some help in this, >> >> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with >> the process of the SGML and the like :-) > > And Marten.. be careful out there.. before you know it they are > talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back.. Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-) From imp at bsdimp.com Thu Nov 15 17:41:08 2007 From: imp at bsdimp.com (M. Warner Losh) Date: Thu Nov 15 18:04:27 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> References: <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Message-ID: <20071115.183927.140531533.imp@bsdimp.com> In message: <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Marten Vijn writes: : On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:06 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: : > -current dropped from the Cc: list. This is most interesting for : > freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers. : : included freebsd-embedded@ : : > : > On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn wrote: : > >On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: : > >>On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: : > >>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd : > >>> and maintain images : > >>> : > >>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD : > >> : > >> Hi Marten, : > >> : > >> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is : > >> committable or almost committable to CVS? : > > : > > I could try and might use some help in this, : > : : : > What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an : > article would include, i.e.: : > : > - Introduction : > : > - What is TinyBSD : > - Features of TinyBSD : > : > - How to obtain TinyBSD : > : > - Creating TinyBSD images : > : > - Building the base TinyBSD system : > : > - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD : > : > - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images : : up till here there is quite clear documentation: : : http://www.tinybsd.org/tinybsd/Documentation : : : > : > - Testing TinyBSD images : > : > - Updating TinyBSD images : : I could write this, but more as proces to get a image ready for a task. : : > : > This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the : > original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for : > potential users of TinyBSD. : : Or should there be somewhere an intergral document containing everthing. : Then I would be wise include above documents authors. : : > Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok? Would you add : > more sections/parts to it? : : There might be some more parts: : : Common ways on running host: does and don'ts : : Working with cf-cards (some info I remember from Paul-Henning Kamp from : EuroBSD Basel 2005) : : I 've written today a part on PXE (for net4826) boards with onboard : flash. : http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/PXEboot related to tinybsd. : : I have some scripts in pre-alpha than could be examples, : in use in bluespot (a tool scanning bluetooth devices) : : http://bluespot.wifisoft.org : : In some time I hope to cleanup code far enough to push it to a public : svn. I should also try to get the 'cross build for arm with TinyBSD' section written too, eh? Warner From danger at rulez.sk Fri Nov 16 00:59:48 2007 From: danger at rulez.sk (Daniel Gerzo) Date: Fri Nov 16 00:59:53 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <20071116012927.GA3646@kobe.laptop> References: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20071116012927.GA3646@kobe.laptop> Message-ID: <511225234.20071116094225@rulez.sk> Hello Giorgos, Friday, November 16, 2007, 2:29:27 AM, you wrote: > On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte wrote: >>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 .. >>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: >>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is >>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS? >>>> >>>> I could try and might use some help in this, >>> >>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with >>> the process of the SGML and the like :-) >> >> And Marten.. be careful out there.. before you know it they are >> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back.. :-D > Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-) -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@rulez.sk From info at martenvijn.nl Fri Nov 16 02:01:25 2007 From: info at martenvijn.nl (Marten Vijn) Date: Fri Nov 16 02:01:31 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <511225234.20071116094225@rulez.sk> References: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20071116012927.GA3646@kobe.laptop> <511225234.20071116094225@rulez.sk> Message-ID: <1195205962.6076.16.camel@medion.sron.nl> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Giorgos, > > Friday, November 16, 2007, 2:29:27 AM, you wrote: > > > On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 .. > >>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: > >>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is > >>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS? > >>>> > >>>> I could try and might use some help in this, > >>> > >>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with > >>> the process of the SGML and the like :-) > >> > >> And Marten.. be careful out there.. before you know it they are > >> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back.. > > :-D > > > Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-) I see no evil in that, as it would be documentation in the right place, aint it? However it is not that far yet. And I am wondering how time consuming this will be. Experiance will tell. step 1. reading doc's at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/book.html step 2. make a place to work (svn) step 3. I 'll write some parts step 4. ask for feedback step 5. see further from there kind regards, Marten > From wb at freebie.xs4all.nl Fri Nov 16 02:25:21 2007 From: wb at freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Fri Nov 16 02:25:28 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1195205962.6076.16.camel@medion.sron.nl> References: <51180.195.64.94.120.1195155753.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <20071115201525.GA65662@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20071116012927.GA3646@kobe.laptop> <511225234.20071116094225@rulez.sk> <1195205962.6076.16.camel@medion.sron.nl> Message-ID: <20071116102513.GG70396@freebie.xs4all.nl> Quoting Marten Vijn, who wrote on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:39:22AM +0100 .. > On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:42 +0100, Daniel Gerzo wrote: > > Hello Giorgos, > > > > Friday, November 16, 2007, 2:29:27 AM, you wrote: > > > > > On 2007-11-15 21:15, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >>Quoting Remko Lodder, who wrote on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:42:33PM +0100 .. > > >>>On Thu, November 15, 2007 7:24 pm, Marten Vijn wrote: > > >>>>On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > >>>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is > > >>>>> committable or almost committable to CVS? > > >>>> > > >>>> I could try and might use some help in this, > > >>> > > >>> Since you and I are both of the same language I could guide you with > > >>> the process of the SGML and the like :-) > > >> > > >> And Marten.. be careful out there.. before you know it they are > > >> talking 'doc commit bit' behind your back.. > > > > :-D > > > > > Damn, my sinister plans were uncovered :-) > > I see no evil in that, as it would be documentation in the right place, > aint it? > However it is not that far yet. And I am wondering how time consuming > this will be. Experiance will tell. > > step 1. reading doc's at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/fdp-primer/book.html > step 2. make a place to work (svn) > step 3. I 'll write some parts > step 4. ask for feedback > step 5. see further from there Veel succes ;-) -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org From jmelo at freebsdbrasil.com.br Fri Nov 16 05:08:31 2007 From: jmelo at freebsdbrasil.com.br (Jean Milanez Melo) Date: Fri Nov 16 05:08:38 2007 Subject: tinybsd qemu small howto In-Reply-To: <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> References: <1194819232.1047.19.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115013208.GA3497@kobe.laptop> <1195151049.3240.10.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> <20071115190615.GA2775@kobe.laptop> <1195169880.3240.46.camel@workstation.martenvijn.nl> Message-ID: <473D8FEF.2000109@freebsdbrasil.com.br> Marten Vijn wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 21:06 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> -current dropped from the Cc: list. This is most interesting for >> freebsd-small users, than -current subscribers. > > included freebsd-embedded@ > >> On 2007-11-15 19:24, Marten Vijn wrote: >>> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 03:32 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> On 2007-11-11 23:13, Marten Vijn wrote: >>>>> a comprehensive overview how i use tinybsd >>>>> and maintain images >>>>> >>>>> http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/TinyBSD >>>> Hi Marten, >>>> >>>> Can we lure you into writing this up as an 'article', which is >>>> committable or almost committable to CVS? >>> I could try and might use some help in this, > > >> What I had originally in mind was working with you towards what an >> article would include, i.e.: >> >> - Introduction >> >> - What is TinyBSD >> - Features of TinyBSD >> >> - How to obtain TinyBSD >> >> - Creating TinyBSD images >> >> - Building the base TinyBSD system >> >> - Post-build configuration of TinyBSD >> >> - Bundling ports & packages in TinyBSD images > > up till here there is quite clear documentation: > > http://www.tinybsd.org/tinybsd/Documentation > > >> - Testing TinyBSD images >> >> - Updating TinyBSD images > > I could write this, but more as proces to get a image ready for a task. > >> This sort of article would probably need a bit or re-arranging of the >> original Wiki text, but it seems like something very interesting for >> potential users of TinyBSD. > > Or should there be somewhere an intergral document containing everthing. > Then I would be wise include above documents authors. > >> Does the table-of-contents mock up shown above look ok? Would you add >> more sections/parts to it? > > There might be some more parts: > > Common ways on running host: does and don'ts > > Working with cf-cards (some info I remember from Paul-Henning Kamp from > EuroBSD Basel 2005) > > I 've written today a part on PXE (for net4826) boards with onboard > flash. > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/PXEboot related to tinybsd. > > I have some scripts in pre-alpha than could be examples, > in use in bluespot (a tool scanning bluetooth devices) > > http://bluespot.wifisoft.org > > In some time I hope to cleanup code far enough to push it to a public > svn. > > Thanks all, > > Marten > > > >> - Giorgos >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-small@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-small > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-small-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello guys, I already did a TinyBSD documentation to handbook, i wrote it in portuguese and i'm translating to english, as i'm not a native speaker i need some help to revise and sgml it. 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