From spork at bway.net  Thu Sep  3 06:18:58 2009
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Thu Sep  3 06:19:05 2009
Subject: decoding mpt driver messages
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909030144520.506@hotlap.local>

Howdy,

Can anyone step through this series of messages from a Dell/LSI RAID card 
for me?  Since there's no management access from within the OS and the 
server is remote, I'd like to know if this is truly a drive failure or if 
it's like the old Adaptec cards that would just sometimes "lose" a drive.

>From dmesg:

mpt0: <LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter> port 0xec00-0xecff mem 
0xfe9fc000-0xfe9fffff,0xfe9e0000-0xfe9effff irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci2
mpt0: [ITHREAD]
mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.13.0
mpt0: Capabilities: ( RAID-0 RAID-1E RAID-1 )
mpt0: 1 Active Volume (2 Max)
mpt0: 2 Hidden Drive Members (10 Max)
...
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Settings ( Hot-Plug-Spares High-Priority-ReSync )
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Using Spare Pool: 0
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): 2 Members:
       (mpt0:1:32:0): Primary Online
       (mpt0:1:1:0): Secondary Online
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): RAID-1 - Optimal
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Status ( Enabled )
(mpt0:vol0:1): Physical (mpt0:0:1:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:0:0)
(mpt0:vol0:1): Online
(mpt0:vol0:0): Physical (mpt0:0:32:0), Pass-thru (mpt0:1:1:0)
(mpt0:vol0:0): Online

And then the errors:

mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
mpt0: request 0xc69d8150:19976 timed out for ccb 0xc6a47c00 (req->ccb 
0xc6a47c00)
mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xc69d8150:19976 function 0
mpt0: mpt_recover_commands: IOC Status 0x4a. Resetting controller.
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x40
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x40
mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req 0xc69d8150:19976
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Volume Status Changed
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x15
mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x21
(mpt0:vol0:1): Physical Disk Status Changed
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): RAID-1 - Degraded
mpt0:vol0(mpt0:0:0): Status ( Enabled )
(mpt0:vol0:1): No longer configured

Also is there any way to talk to the drive with smartmontools?  Any way to 
get a serial number off the drive to check warranty status before I visit 
the machine?

Thanks,

C

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From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon Sep  7 11:07:08 2009
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon Sep  7 11:09:34 2009
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200909071107.n87B77VH010372@freefall.freebsd.org>

Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/138384  scsi       [ips] [patch] NULL pointer dereference in ipsd_dump() 
o kern/138379  scsi       [aic7xxx] [patch] Memory leak in output_listing() in f
o kern/138376  scsi       [cam] [patch] Memory leak in scsi_low_attach_xs() in f
o kern/134488  scsi       [mpt] MPT SCSI driver probes max. 8 LUNs per device
o amd64/132394 scsi       [isp] - bad underruns with QLogic qla2300 and amd64
o kern/132250  scsi       [ciss] ciss driver does not support more then 15 drive
o kern/132206  scsi       [mpt] system panics on boot when mirroring and 2nd dri
o kern/131032  scsi       [panic] hald causing panic in scsi_sg
o kern/130735  scsi       [cam] [patch] pass M_NOWAIT to the malloc() call insid
o kern/130621  scsi       [mpt] tranfer rate is inscrutable slow when use lsi213
o kern/129602  scsi       [ahd] ahd(4) gets confused and wedges SCSI bus
o kern/128452  scsi       [sa] [panic] Accessing SCSI tape drive randomly crashe
o kern/128245  scsi       [scsi] "inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step" [re
o kern/127927  scsi       [isp] isp(4) target driver crashes kernel when set up 
o kern/126866  scsi       [isp] [panic] kernel panic on card initialization
o kern/124667  scsi       [amd] [panic] FreeBSD-7 kernel page faults at amd-scsi
o kern/123674  scsi       [ahc] ahc driver dumping
o kern/123666  scsi       [aac] attach fails with Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 controll
o sparc/121676 scsi       [iscsi] iscontrol do not connect iscsi-target on sparc
o kern/120487  scsi       [sg] scsi_sg incompatible with scanners
o kern/120247  scsi       [mpt] FreeBSD 6.3 and LSI Logic 1030 = only 3.300MB/s 
o kern/119668  scsi       [cam] [patch] certain errors are too verbose comparing
o kern/114597  scsi       [sym] System hangs at SCSI bus reset with dual HBAs
o kern/110847  scsi       [ahd] Tyan U320 onboard problem with more than 3 disks
o kern/99954   scsi       [ahc] reading from DVD failes on 6.x [regression]
o kern/94838   scsi       Kernel panic while mounting SD card with lock switch o
o kern/92798   scsi       [ahc] SCSI problem with timeouts
o kern/90282   scsi       [sym] SCSI bus resets cause loss of ch device
o kern/76178   scsi       [ahd] Problem with ahd and large SCSI Raid system
o kern/74627   scsi       [ahc] [hang] Adaptec 2940U2W Can't boot 5.3
s kern/61165   scsi       [panic] kernel page fault after calling cam_send_ccb
o kern/60641   scsi       [sym] Sporadic SCSI bus resets with 53C810 under load
o kern/60598   scsi       wire down of scsi devices conflicts with config
s kern/57398   scsi       [mly] Current fails to install on mly(4) based RAID di
o kern/52638   scsi       [panic] SCSI U320 on SMP server won't run faster than 
o kern/44587   scsi       dev/dpt/dpt.h is missing defines required for DPT_HAND
o kern/40895   scsi       wierd kernel / device driver bug
o kern/39388   scsi       ncr/sym drivers fail with 53c810 and more than 256MB m
o kern/38828   scsi       [dpt] [request] DPT PM2012B/90 doesn't work
o kern/35234   scsi       World access to /dev/pass? (for scanner) requires acce

40 problems total.

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From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon Sep 14 11:07:08 2009
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon Sep 14 11:09:21 2009
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200909141107.n8EB77vw072473@freefall.freebsd.org>

Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/138384  scsi       [ips] [patch] NULL pointer dereference in ipsd_dump() 
o kern/138379  scsi       [aic7xxx] [patch] Memory leak in output_listing() in f
o kern/138376  scsi       [cam] [patch] Memory leak in scsi_low_attach_xs() in f
o kern/134488  scsi       [mpt] MPT SCSI driver probes max. 8 LUNs per device
o amd64/132394 scsi       [isp] - bad underruns with QLogic qla2300 and amd64
o kern/132250  scsi       [ciss] ciss driver does not support more then 15 drive
o kern/132206  scsi       [mpt] system panics on boot when mirroring and 2nd dri
o kern/131032  scsi       [panic] hald causing panic in scsi_sg
o kern/130735  scsi       [cam] [patch] pass M_NOWAIT to the malloc() call insid
o kern/130621  scsi       [mpt] tranfer rate is inscrutable slow when use lsi213
o kern/129602  scsi       [ahd] ahd(4) gets confused and wedges SCSI bus
o kern/128452  scsi       [sa] [panic] Accessing SCSI tape drive randomly crashe
o kern/128245  scsi       [scsi] "inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step" [re
o kern/127927  scsi       [isp] isp(4) target driver crashes kernel when set up 
o kern/126866  scsi       [isp] [panic] kernel panic on card initialization
o kern/124667  scsi       [amd] [panic] FreeBSD-7 kernel page faults at amd-scsi
o kern/123674  scsi       [ahc] ahc driver dumping
o kern/123666  scsi       [aac] attach fails with Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 controll
o sparc/121676 scsi       [iscsi] iscontrol do not connect iscsi-target on sparc
o kern/120487  scsi       [sg] scsi_sg incompatible with scanners
o kern/120247  scsi       [mpt] FreeBSD 6.3 and LSI Logic 1030 = only 3.300MB/s 
o kern/119668  scsi       [cam] [patch] certain errors are too verbose comparing
o kern/114597  scsi       [sym] System hangs at SCSI bus reset with dual HBAs
o kern/110847  scsi       [ahd] Tyan U320 onboard problem with more than 3 disks
o kern/99954   scsi       [ahc] reading from DVD failes on 6.x [regression]
o kern/94838   scsi       Kernel panic while mounting SD card with lock switch o
o kern/92798   scsi       [ahc] SCSI problem with timeouts
o kern/90282   scsi       [sym] SCSI bus resets cause loss of ch device
o kern/76178   scsi       [ahd] Problem with ahd and large SCSI Raid system
o kern/74627   scsi       [ahc] [hang] Adaptec 2940U2W Can't boot 5.3
s kern/61165   scsi       [panic] kernel page fault after calling cam_send_ccb
o kern/60641   scsi       [sym] Sporadic SCSI bus resets with 53C810 under load
o kern/60598   scsi       wire down of scsi devices conflicts with config
s kern/57398   scsi       [mly] Current fails to install on mly(4) based RAID di
o kern/52638   scsi       [panic] SCSI U320 on SMP server won't run faster than 
o kern/44587   scsi       dev/dpt/dpt.h is missing defines required for DPT_HAND
o kern/40895   scsi       wierd kernel / device driver bug
o kern/39388   scsi       ncr/sym drivers fail with 53c810 and more than 256MB m
o kern/38828   scsi       [dpt] [request] DPT PM2012B/90 doesn't work
o kern/35234   scsi       World access to /dev/pass? (for scanner) requires acce

40 problems total.

From linimon at FreeBSD.org  Tue Sep 15 00:46:26 2009
From: linimon at FreeBSD.org (linimon@FreeBSD.org)
Date: Tue Sep 15 00:46:37 2009
Subject: kern/138789: [cam] [patch] cd(4) patch for drives/discs failing
	the 'read toc' command
Message-ID: <200909150046.n8F0kQWI096666@freefall.freebsd.org>

Old Synopsis: cd(4) patch for drives/discs failing the 'read toc' command
New Synopsis: [cam] [patch] cd(4) patch for drives/discs failing the 'read toc' command

Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-scsi
Responsible-Changed-By: linimon
Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Sep 15 00:45:18 UTC 2009
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
Patch affects CAM.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138789
From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon Sep 21 11:07:04 2009
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon Sep 21 11:09:24 2009
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200909211107.n8LB73I0030413@freefall.freebsd.org>

Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/138789  scsi       [cam] [patch] cd(4) patch for drives/discs failing the
o kern/138384  scsi       [ips] [patch] NULL pointer dereference in ipsd_dump() 
o kern/138379  scsi       [aic7xxx] [patch] Memory leak in output_listing() in f
o kern/138376  scsi       [cam] [patch] Memory leak in scsi_low_attach_xs() in f
o kern/134488  scsi       [mpt] MPT SCSI driver probes max. 8 LUNs per device
o amd64/132394 scsi       [isp] - bad underruns with QLogic qla2300 and amd64
o kern/132250  scsi       [ciss] ciss driver does not support more then 15 drive
o kern/132206  scsi       [mpt] system panics on boot when mirroring and 2nd dri
o kern/131032  scsi       [panic] hald causing panic in scsi_sg
o kern/130735  scsi       [cam] [patch] pass M_NOWAIT to the malloc() call insid
o kern/130621  scsi       [mpt] tranfer rate is inscrutable slow when use lsi213
o kern/129602  scsi       [ahd] ahd(4) gets confused and wedges SCSI bus
o kern/128452  scsi       [sa] [panic] Accessing SCSI tape drive randomly crashe
o kern/128245  scsi       [scsi] "inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step" [re
o kern/127927  scsi       [isp] isp(4) target driver crashes kernel when set up 
o kern/126866  scsi       [isp] [panic] kernel panic on card initialization
o kern/124667  scsi       [amd] [panic] FreeBSD-7 kernel page faults at amd-scsi
o kern/123674  scsi       [ahc] ahc driver dumping
o kern/123666  scsi       [aac] attach fails with Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 controll
o sparc/121676 scsi       [iscsi] iscontrol do not connect iscsi-target on sparc
o kern/120487  scsi       [sg] scsi_sg incompatible with scanners
o kern/120247  scsi       [mpt] FreeBSD 6.3 and LSI Logic 1030 = only 3.300MB/s 
o kern/119668  scsi       [cam] [patch] certain errors are too verbose comparing
o kern/114597  scsi       [sym] System hangs at SCSI bus reset with dual HBAs
o kern/110847  scsi       [ahd] Tyan U320 onboard problem with more than 3 disks
o kern/99954   scsi       [ahc] reading from DVD failes on 6.x [regression]
o kern/94838   scsi       Kernel panic while mounting SD card with lock switch o
o kern/92798   scsi       [ahc] SCSI problem with timeouts
o kern/90282   scsi       [sym] SCSI bus resets cause loss of ch device
o kern/76178   scsi       [ahd] Problem with ahd and large SCSI Raid system
o kern/74627   scsi       [ahc] [hang] Adaptec 2940U2W Can't boot 5.3
s kern/61165   scsi       [panic] kernel page fault after calling cam_send_ccb
o kern/60641   scsi       [sym] Sporadic SCSI bus resets with 53C810 under load
o kern/60598   scsi       wire down of scsi devices conflicts with config
s kern/57398   scsi       [mly] Current fails to install on mly(4) based RAID di
o kern/52638   scsi       [panic] SCSI U320 on SMP server won't run faster than 
o kern/44587   scsi       dev/dpt/dpt.h is missing defines required for DPT_HAND
o kern/40895   scsi       wierd kernel / device driver bug
o kern/39388   scsi       ncr/sym drivers fail with 53c810 and more than 256MB m
o kern/38828   scsi       [dpt] [request] DPT PM2012B/90 doesn't work
o kern/35234   scsi       World access to /dev/pass? (for scanner) requires acce

41 problems total.

From therion at ninth-art.de  Mon Sep 21 12:55:36 2009
From: therion at ninth-art.de (Georg Bege)
Date: Mon Sep 21 12:55:43 2009
Subject: SAS controller Marvell 88SE6320
Message-ID: <702bcf4942786a1886312a6383413f45.squirrel@webmail.coruscant.info>

Good day to all of you

Im in need of a driver for the chip family Marvell 88SE63xx, like thoose
which is on a Asus P6T WS Professional mainboards (Socket LGA1366).
Is there any luck that such driver will be available in FreeBSD current?
Linux has this driver however Im not really skilled with driver porting or
driver developing on FreeBSD.

cheers

G. Bege


!DSPAM:4ab773c9651038774019250!


From spork at bway.net  Thu Sep 24 05:12:45 2009
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Thu Sep 24 05:12:52 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
Message-ID: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>

Hello all,

I'm considering a Dell, specifically the Poweredge 2970, and I'm not 
finding much info on their site about the various raid controller options 
- there don't seem to be any actual specs.

Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR) 
and what FBSD driver each one uses?  All are within my price range.  I 
assume all can handle SATA as well as SAS, correct?  Is performance in the 
ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca card?

Thanks,

Charles


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From danny at cs.huji.ac.il  Thu Sep 24 05:46:10 2009
From: danny at cs.huji.ac.il (Daniel Braniss)
Date: Thu Sep 24 05:46:18 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers 
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local> 
References: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
Message-ID: <E1Mqh9c-000Naj-6F@kabab.cs.huji.ac.il>

> Hello all,
> 
> I'm considering a Dell, specifically the Poweredge 2970, and I'm not 
> finding much info on their site about the various raid controller options 
> - there don't seem to be any actual specs.
> 
> Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR) 
> and what FBSD driver each one uses?  All are within my price range.  I 
> assume all can handle SATA as well as SAS, correct?  Is performance in the 
> ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca card?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles

We have a couple of them, no complains. The raid is doing fine, though
megacli is too primitive. We are running raid 5 and zfs on top and
the throughput is comparable to our NetAPP filer (without all the bells
and whistles).

Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
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        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #33: Thu Jul  2 16:11:01 IDT 2009
    danny@sunfire:/r+d/obj/sunfire/r+d/7/sys/HUJI
module_register: module pci/igb already exists!
Module pci/igb failed to register: 17
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5410  @ 2.33GHz (2329.84-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x10676  Stepping = 6
  Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
  Features2=0xce3bd<SSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA
,SSE4.1>
  AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
  TSC: P-state invariant
  Cores per package: 4
usable memory = 8568651776 (8171 MB)
avail memory  = 8267067392 (7884 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <DELL   PE_SC3  >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
...
mfi0: <Dell PERC 6> port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfc980000-0xfc9bffff,0xfc940000-0xf
c97ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 3.00 
mfi0: [ITHREAD]
pcib8: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
pci10: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib8
mfi1: <Dell PERC 6> port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xfc780000-0xfc7bffff,0xfc740000-0xf
c77ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci10
mfi1: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 3.00 
...

danny



From damianm at esi.com.au  Thu Sep 24 06:02:17 2009
From: damianm at esi.com.au (Damian McGuckin)
Date: Thu Sep 24 06:02:23 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0909241533590.26695@key0.esi.com.au>

On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Charles Sprickman wrote:

> Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i,

These are the same family as the LSI Logic MegaRAID SAS 83XXxxx.

I think they use the 'mfi' driver.

> PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR) and what FBSD driver each one uses?

> All are within my price range.  I assume all can handle SATA as well as 
> SAS, correct?  Is performance in the ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca 
> card?

I would personally stick with the Areca. The newer ones of these now 
handle both SAS and SATA.

- Damian

Pacific Engineering Systems International, 277-279 Broadway, Broadway NSW 2007
Ph:+61-2-8571-0847 .. Fx:+61-2-9692-9623 | unsolicited email not wanted here !
Views and opinions here are mine and not those of any past or present employer
From scottl at samsco.org  Fri Sep 25 01:36:12 2009
From: scottl at samsco.org (Scott Long)
Date: Fri Sep 25 01:36:18 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
Message-ID: <E8474B7F-F075-4B8C-9A4B-424025E2BA69@samsco.org>


On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm considering a Dell, specifically the Poweredge 2970, and I'm not  
> finding much info on their site about the various raid controller  
> options - there don't seem to be any actual specs.
>
> Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS  
> 6/iR) and what FBSD driver each one uses?  All are within my price  
> range.  I assume all can handle SATA as well as SAS, correct?  Is  
> performance in the ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca card?
>
> Thanks,
>

Dell hardware works well and is well supported.  SAS5/6 means that  
it's a SAS+SATA controller that does basic RAID0 and RAID1.  PERC5/6  
means that it's a full-fledged caching RAID controller.  There is even  
a management tool for both the SAS5/6 and PERC5/6 controllers.

Scott

From andrew at modulus.org  Fri Sep 25 01:55:30 2009
From: andrew at modulus.org (Andrew Snow)
Date: Fri Sep 25 01:55:37 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
In-Reply-To: <E8474B7F-F075-4B8C-9A4B-424025E2BA69@samsco.org>
References: <alpine.OSX.2.00.0909240105580.15307@hotlap.local>
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On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:

> (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR)

When I tried the perc 5i last year, it worked, but was slow (write 
caching was disabled and there was no way to enable it) and there was no 
reporting of errors or raid degradation.

- Andrew
From spork at bway.net  Sat Sep 26 02:41:09 2009
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Sat Sep 26 02:41:15 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Damian McGuckin wrote:

>> All are within my price range.  I assume all can handle SATA as well as 
>> SAS, correct?  Is performance in the ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca 
>> card?
>
> I would personally stick with the Areca. The newer ones of these now handle 
> both SAS and SATA.

I am considering that, but I'm concerned about whether this would entail 
trying to hack something together to get the drives connected to the card 
- I have no idea how proprietary things are in there.  It's been awhile, 
but last time I put together a box with a ton of SATA drives, it seemed 
every manufacturer had their own connector scheme for "multilane" SATA.  I 
suspect I couldn't just drop a 3rd party card in there and plug it into 
the backplane.

Still digging for a clear picture of the inside of the thing.

Thanks,

Charles

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From spork at bway.net  Sat Sep 26 02:58:19 2009
From: spork at bway.net (Charles Sprickman)
Date: Sat Sep 26 02:58:26 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Scott Long wrote:

> On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I'm considering a Dell, specifically the Poweredge 2970, and I'm not 
>> finding much info on their site about the various raid controller options - 
>> there don't seem to be any actual specs.
>> 
>> Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR) 
>> and what FBSD driver each one uses?  All are within my price range.  I 
>> assume all can handle SATA as well as SAS, correct?  Is performance in the 
>> ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca card?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>
> Dell hardware works well and is well supported.

That's good to know.  Before I hit the Dell site, I was looking at 
barebones Supermicro servers (and some others) and Dell beat the "build it 
yourself" price by a wide margin.  Currently there's a $460 discount on 
the 2970.

> SAS5/6 means that it's a SAS+SATA controller that does basic RAID0 and 
> RAID1.  PERC5/6 means that it's a full-fledged caching RAID controller. 
> There is even a management tool for both the SAS5/6 and PERC5/6 
> controllers.

Does Dell bother documenting this stuff anywhere?  I find their website 
barely usable (both in terms of response time - awful and organization - 
also awful).

Does the SAS6 do mirror+stripe?  Is the management tool something that 
requires the whole boatload of Linux compat stuff or is it something 
simple like "mptutil"?

Lastly, I see the PERC6 is about $300 beyond the "integrated" SAS6ir. 
What more does the PERC version offer?  Google is showing me some people 
calling the non-PERC "quasi-raid" which worries me...

Thanks,

Charles

> Scott
>
From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org  Mon Sep 28 11:07:03 2009
From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster)
Date: Mon Sep 28 11:09:18 2009
Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Message-ID: <200909281107.n8SB72rd064152@freefall.freebsd.org>

Note: to view an individual PR, use:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number).

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.


S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o kern/138789  scsi       [cam] [patch] cd(4) patch for drives/discs failing the
o kern/138384  scsi       [ips] [patch] NULL pointer dereference in ipsd_dump() 
o kern/138379  scsi       [aic7xxx] [patch] Memory leak in output_listing() in f
o kern/138376  scsi       [cam] [patch] Memory leak in scsi_low_attach_xs() in f
o kern/134488  scsi       [mpt] MPT SCSI driver probes max. 8 LUNs per device
o amd64/132394 scsi       [isp] - bad underruns with QLogic qla2300 and amd64
o kern/132250  scsi       [ciss] ciss driver does not support more then 15 drive
o kern/132206  scsi       [mpt] system panics on boot when mirroring and 2nd dri
o kern/131032  scsi       [panic] hald causing panic in scsi_sg
o kern/130735  scsi       [cam] [patch] pass M_NOWAIT to the malloc() call insid
o kern/130621  scsi       [mpt] tranfer rate is inscrutable slow when use lsi213
o kern/129602  scsi       [ahd] ahd(4) gets confused and wedges SCSI bus
o kern/128452  scsi       [sa] [panic] Accessing SCSI tape drive randomly crashe
o kern/128245  scsi       [scsi] "inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step" [re
o kern/127927  scsi       [isp] isp(4) target driver crashes kernel when set up 
o kern/126866  scsi       [isp] [panic] kernel panic on card initialization
o kern/124667  scsi       [amd] [panic] FreeBSD-7 kernel page faults at amd-scsi
o kern/123674  scsi       [ahc] ahc driver dumping
o kern/123666  scsi       [aac] attach fails with Adaptec SAS RAID 3805 controll
o sparc/121676 scsi       [iscsi] iscontrol do not connect iscsi-target on sparc
o kern/120487  scsi       [sg] scsi_sg incompatible with scanners
o kern/120247  scsi       [mpt] FreeBSD 6.3 and LSI Logic 1030 = only 3.300MB/s 
o kern/119668  scsi       [cam] [patch] certain errors are too verbose comparing
o kern/114597  scsi       [sym] System hangs at SCSI bus reset with dual HBAs
o kern/110847  scsi       [ahd] Tyan U320 onboard problem with more than 3 disks
o kern/99954   scsi       [ahc] reading from DVD failes on 6.x [regression]
o kern/94838   scsi       Kernel panic while mounting SD card with lock switch o
o kern/92798   scsi       [ahc] SCSI problem with timeouts
o kern/90282   scsi       [sym] SCSI bus resets cause loss of ch device
o kern/76178   scsi       [ahd] Problem with ahd and large SCSI Raid system
o kern/74627   scsi       [ahc] [hang] Adaptec 2940U2W Can't boot 5.3
s kern/61165   scsi       [panic] kernel page fault after calling cam_send_ccb
o kern/60641   scsi       [sym] Sporadic SCSI bus resets with 53C810 under load
o kern/60598   scsi       wire down of scsi devices conflicts with config
s kern/57398   scsi       [mly] Current fails to install on mly(4) based RAID di
o kern/52638   scsi       [panic] SCSI U320 on SMP server won't run faster than 
o kern/44587   scsi       dev/dpt/dpt.h is missing defines required for DPT_HAND
o kern/40895   scsi       wierd kernel / device driver bug
o kern/39388   scsi       ncr/sym drivers fail with 53c810 and more than 256MB m
o kern/38828   scsi       [dpt] [request] DPT PM2012B/90 doesn't work
o kern/35234   scsi       World access to /dev/pass? (for scanner) requires acce

41 problems total.

From peter at simons-rock.edu  Mon Sep 28 16:21:00 2009
From: peter at simons-rock.edu (Peter C. Lai)
Date: Mon Sep 28 16:21:07 2009
Subject: Dell/LSI RAID controllers
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On 2009-09-25 10:58:18PM -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Scott Long wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I'm considering a Dell, specifically the Poweredge 2970, and I'm not 
>>> finding much info on their site about the various raid controller options 
>>> - there don't seem to be any actual specs.
>>> 
>>> Anyone here familiar with the various models (PERC 5i, PERC 6I, SAS 6/iR) 
>>> and what FBSD driver each one uses?  All are within my price range.  I 
>>> assume all can handle SATA as well as SAS, correct?  Is performance in 
>>> the ballpark of a $500 3Ware or Areca card?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>> 
>> Dell hardware works well and is well supported.
> 
> That's good to know.  Before I hit the Dell site, I was looking at 
> barebones Supermicro servers (and some others) and Dell beat the "build it 
> yourself" price by a wide margin.  Currently there's a $460 discount on the 
> 2970.
> 
>> SAS5/6 means that it's a SAS+SATA controller that does basic RAID0 and 
>> RAID1.  PERC5/6 means that it's a full-fledged caching RAID controller. 
>> There is even a management tool for both the SAS5/6 and PERC5/6 
>> controllers.
> 
> Does Dell bother documenting this stuff anywhere?  I find their website 
> barely usable (both in terms of response time - awful and organization - 
> also awful).

You are probably going to have to get used to resorting to mapping Dell's
Linux side of the house to what you know about FreeBSD (as the latter will
never be officially supported, even though you will probably find some 
sympathetic Dell engineers on the mailing lists who do contribute to the 
project).

So I would start at http://linux.dell.com/storage.shtml as well
as getting on the mailing lists.

> 
> Does the SAS6 do mirror+stripe?  Is the management tool something that 
> requires the whole boatload of Linux compat stuff or is it something simple 
> like "mptutil"?

Probably not both at the same time (i.e. RAID1+0/RAID0+1).

> 
> Lastly, I see the PERC6 is about $300 beyond the "integrated" SAS6ir. What 
> more does the PERC version offer?  Google is showing me some people calling 
> the non-PERC "quasi-raid" which worries me...

It's quasi in the Intel Matrix sense.

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