Is QEMU working/reliable under ....

William A. Mahaffey III wam at hiwaay.net
Wed Jan 28 20:19:32 UTC 2015


On 01/28/15 13:24, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 08:19:31AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>> On 01/28/15 01:14, Roland Smith wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 07:18:06PM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>>>> On 01/27/15 15:04, Roland Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:08:58AM -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>>>>>> .... FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p5, qemu-0.11.1_18, kqemu-kmod-1.3.0.p11_12 ? I
>>>>>> have tried w/ kqemu loaded & unloaded (recommended online), w/
>>>>>> -nographic, w/ -vga std, etc. No love. All I want to do is run a WinXP
>>>>>> 32bit VM &/or a 64-bit Win7 VM from my desktop (xfce-4.10_7, xorg-7.7_1,
>>>>>> xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3_5) :-/ .... Several online sites imply that it
>>>>>> works OK, 1 specifically w/ FreeBSD 9 no less. Any clues appreciated,
>>>>>> any more info gladly provided ....
>>>>> This version is *ancient*. I would suggest trying qemu-devel instead, because
>>>>> that provides qemu-2.2.0. Last time I tried it 0.11 with or without qkemu
>>>>> crashed a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the website, qemu version 0.11 and up do not support kqemu
>>>>> anymore (see http://wiki.qemu.org/KQEMU), so you don't need that anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> In time (and if your processor is new enough to have “extended page tables”) I
>>>>> guess qemu on FreeBSD could be replaced by the bhyve hypervisor that is now in
>>>>> 10.x and is being developed further in HEAD. Currently bhyve can load FreeBSD,
>>>>> OpenBSD, NetBSD and Linux guests. Support to run windoze as a guest will come
>>>>> in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roland
>>>> OK, I have qemu-devel compiled & installed, kqemu unloaded from the
>>>> kernel, & (hopefully) a build of a VM underway, command-line: qemu
>>>> -cdrom ../../../ISOs/winxp.iso -hda HDD.img -m 256 -boot d -cpu athlon
>>>> -vga std  -nographic -no-acpi -localtime, w/ qemu softlinked to
> If you specify -nographic you won't see *anything*. How are you going to
> interact with the windows installer that way? :-)
>
> Try:
>
>      qemu-system-i386 -cdrom ../../../ISOs/winxp.iso -hda HDD.img -m 256 -boot d
>
> Booting a windows HD image takes around 90 seconds on my machine. Slackware
> Linux takes around 120 seconds. Qemu isn't exactly a speed demon...

I tried this (plus -noacpi -localtime) & got X11 errors:

[root at kabini1, WinXP, 8:10:28am] 499 % qemu-system-i386 -cdrom 
../../../ISOs/winxp.iso -hda HDD.img -m 256 -boot d -cpu athlon -vga std 
-no-acpi -localtime

(<unknown>:20221): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[root at kabini1, WinXP, 10:20:09am] 500 % pe
TERM=xterm
BLOCKSIZE=K
MAIL=/var/mail/root
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin
SHELL=/bin/csh
HOME=/root
USER=root
HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD
VENDOR=amd
OSTYPE=FreeBSD
MACHTYPE=x86_64
SHLVL=1
PWD=/home/VMs/qemu/WinXP
LOGNAME=root
GROUP=wheel
HOST=kabini1.local
TIME= whew !!!! that took (%U cpu + %S sys) sec., %E elapsed time tot, 
%P CPU efficiency
         (%X text, %D data, %M max) KB, (%I+%O) io, %F pfs + %W swaps
LC_ALL=C
EDITOR=vi
PAGER=more
[root at kabini1, WinXP, 10:20:30am] 501 % setenv DISPLAY ":0.0"
[root at kabini1, WinXP, 10:21:43am] 502 % pe
TERM=xterm
BLOCKSIZE=K
MAIL=/var/mail/root
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin
SHELL=/bin/csh
HOME=/root
USER=root
HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD
VENDOR=amd
OSTYPE=FreeBSD
MACHTYPE=x86_64
SHLVL=1
PWD=/home/VMs/qemu/WinXP
LOGNAME=root
GROUP=wheel
HOST=kabini1.local
TIME= whew !!!! that took (%U cpu + %S sys) sec., %E elapsed time tot, 
%P CPU efficiency
         (%X text, %D data, %M max) KB, (%I+%O) io, %F pfs + %W swaps
LC_ALL=C
EDITOR=vi
PAGER=more
DISPLAY=:0.0
[root at kabini1, WinXP, 10:21:44am] 503 % qemu-system-i386 -cdrom 
../../../ISOs/winxp.iso -hda HDD.img -m 256 -boot d -cpu athlon -vga std 
-no-acpi -localtime
Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
(<unknown>:20227): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[root at kabini1, WinXP, 10:21:48am] 504 %


I have had this problem before, when I 'su' to root (usually from an 
rxvt terminal running csh as a regular user), the environment isn't set 
up correctly for most X11 stuff to work correctly when invoked from that 
root CLI. I have posted about this before, but it still persists. Any 
clue how to get this to work for me :-) ? TIA & thanks for your reply.


>
>>>> qemu-system-x86_64 in /usr/local/bin. How long is this expected to take
>>>> :-) ? TIA & thx for everything so far ....
>>> If you are using a 64-bit build of XP the GUI should come up pretty fast.
>>> Installing XP will seem to take ages. :-) Trying to run a 32-bit XP on a
>>> 64-bit emulator won't work at all, IIRC. I think it won't even boot.
>>>
>>> Depending on which windows programs you need to run, there is a pre-built
>>> 32-bit Wine for AMD64 available in ports. That might run them faster because
>>> it's not a VM.
>>>
>>> Roland
>> Hmmmmm .... OK, I was/am using 32-bit WinXP, maybe that's part of the
>> problem. I eventually killed this process after 5+ hrs w/ no visible
>> progress & tried again w/ qemu-system-i386 & the rest of the command
>> line args, still (apparently) nogo, killed it after about 1 hr., no
>> visible progress. I never saw *any* GUI pop up in either case. I'm a bit
>> confused here, I thought the qemu executable needed to match the host as
>> much as possible, that's why I tried the x86_64 qemu 1st.
> It should match the *guest*. The postfix after qemu indicates which
> architecture it is emulating.
>
> If you only need an emulator for i386 and x86-64, enable te X86_TARGETS options.
> That will skip all the other architectures.
>
>
> Roland

Thanks, I eventually figured that out, we'll see what happens next ....

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