Best Server OS for Someone That Does not Want to Touch a Shell
on a Regular Basis?
freebsd at edvax.de
Mon Sep 5 15:10:53 UTC 2011
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:50:19 -0400, Pierre-Luc Drouin wrote:
> >> I noticed that in
> >> the past few years, updating softwares through ports has been requiring
> >> more user intervention, due to the way some dependencies are being
> >> updated from one version to the next. Would using binary packages allow
> >> to avoid more such user intervention?
> > Yes. All dependencies would be incorporated automatically.
> > Only ports without equivalent package that additionally have
> > OPTIONS to set would invoke a configuration screen, and this
> > screen would have to be dealt with only in the first run of
> > the updating process.
> > There are also options for portmaster that can be used to
> > control program behaviour in case of problems (e. g. some
> > package not found, conflicting ports, versioning problem,
> > or port marked "broken").
> So, what I was referring to in particulars was special updates like this:
> AFFECTS: users of lang/perl*
> AUTHOR: skv at FreeBSD.org
> lang/perl5.14 is out. If you want to switch to it from, for example
> lang/perl5.12, that is:
> Portupgrade users:
> 0) Fix pkgdb.db (for safety):
> pkgdb -Ff
> 1) Reinstall new version of Perl (5.14):
> env DISABLE_CONFLICTS=1 portupgrade -o lang/perl5.14 -f
> 2) Reinstall everything that depends on Perl:
> portupgrade -fr perl
> So you are saying that this type of special interventions is not
> necessary when using only binary packages, right?
Erm... no, or basically yes. :-)
First of all, the example here refers to portupgrade, not
The DISABLE_CONFLICTS variable is only required where
something is built from source. By using packages, you
can even _force_ installation of (maybe conflicting)
packages, implying of course that this may cause damage.
In _worst_ cases, there's the option to forcedly deinstall
packages and then re-install them (in a newer version),
this may be useful when the upgrade path is too much
Coming back to that example: If you order portmaster to
upgrade perl, you will traditionally also upgrade all
ports depending on it. And if this is possible via
packages (-P, -PP), it will "reconstruct" the dependencies
properly so all programs can use the new perl version.
However, as I've turned into a "compile guy" due to
sufficient hardware, I usually use source-based updates
when needed. I don't update my home system very often,
because I'd like to keep it in a functional state. :-)
So I've not come across that particular update yet, as
I still have perl-threaded-5.10.1_4 installed, and there's
nothing here that requires 5.12 or 5.14.
When you choose to use portupgrade instead of portmaster,
it's a good choice to always run "pkgdb -aF" before and
after anything you do (e. g. also "around" a pkg_add -r
command). I've been using portupgrade in the past, but
today I prefer "just ports" (home) and portmaster (work).
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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