csup vs cvs

doug at safeport.com doug at safeport.com
Tue Apr 6 17:28:55 UTC 2010

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> doug at safeport.com writes:
>> Yesterday I was updating an 8.0 stable system to pick up a change I
>> specifically needed. The change was MFC'd Apr 4th at 11:38. I waited
>> until about 8PM and ran cvs from cvsup2.FreeBSD.org. When the change
>> was not there, I waited until Apr 5th, a bit after midnight. When I
>> still did not pick up the change, I updated from a cvs repository.
>> My question is how are the mirrors updated (cvsup2 specifically I
>> guess). In general is using csup and cvs equivalent processes for non
>> developers?.
> Your message doesn't really make sense to me; I suspect you're confusing
> cvs with cvsup, but I'm not sure.  cvsup and csup are different
> implementations of the same functionality, and connect to the same
> servers, so they really won't be different (they are, in fact,
> interchangeable).  Anonymous CVS access is not widely used, and is
> really recommended only for experts.  Different hubs update on different
> schedules, but official ones are recommended to update hourly.

First thank you for responding to an obviously badly worded question. I think my 
understanding exceeds my ability to explain my question. So I will be very 
specific about what I wanted.

A change was MFC'd to the xorg intel driver to include support for the new 
chipsets. I took the fact that I could see the change on the web:

   Date: Sun Apr  4 15:37:47 2010
   New Revision: 206164
   URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/206164

   Log: MFC r205096, r205102
         Add AGP support for Intel Pineview and Ironlake chipsets.

to mean that it would be propogated out to my favored csup server in due course. 
The change was not on cvsup2.FreeBSD.org by 2AM Monday, so I got a source tree 
from a cvs repository my unix guru runs and updated using that. I used his 
because I host it.

What I attempted to ask is (1) how are the mirrors updated; and (2), is there a 
particular lag time where the latest changes would have to be there? This is not 
normally an issue for me but I have a laptop that will not run X w/o this 

I normally do not use cvs because, I am not a developer and my 'learning new 
things bucket' is pretty full. Hence my [however badly worded] question. Again 
thanks for bearing with me.

Douglas Denault
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