From windforce150 at vip.qq.com  Fri May  1 00:58:36 2009
From: windforce150 at vip.qq.com (=?utf-8?B?5byg6Ie7?=)
Date: Fri May  1 00:58:45 2009
Subject: About javaws
Message-ID: <20090501005831.GA30180@my.cn>

Hello, everybody. I have installed diablo-jdk16 on my FreeBSD 7.1 system. However, when I run the TopCoder Competition Arena, it failed to validate the certificate. And the details out put are below
	java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
	at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.<init>(PKIXValidator.java:59)
	at sun.security.validator.Validator.getInstance(Validator.java:161)
	at com.sun.deploy.security.TrustDecider.isAllPermissionGranted(TrustDecider.java:335)
	at com.sun.javaws.security.AppPolicy.grantUnrestrictedAccess(AppPolicy.java:217)
	at com.sun.javaws.LaunchDownload.checkSignedResourcesHelper(LaunchDownload.java:1240)
	at com.sun.javaws.LaunchDownload.checkSignedResources(LaunchDownload.java:1077)
	at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.prepareLaunchFile(Launcher.java:704)
	at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.prepareToLaunch(Launcher.java:175)
	at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.launch(Launcher.java:95)
	at com.sun.javaws.Main.launchApp(Main.java:300)
	at com.sun.javaws.Main.continueInSecureThread(Main.java:210)
	at com.sun.javaws.Main$1.run(Main.java:107)
	at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
	Caused by: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
	at java.security.cert.PKIXParameters.setTrustAnchors(PKIXParameters.java:183)
	at java.security.cert.PKIXParameters.<init>(PKIXParameters.java:103)
	at java.security.cert.PKIXBuilderParameters.<init>(PKIXBuilderParameters.java:87)
	at sun.security.validator.PKIXValidator.<init>(PKIXValidator.java:57)
	... 12 more
	And this is my pkg_info output:
		 %pkg_info |grep jdk
		 diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02 Java Development Kit 1.6.0_07.02
Can anyone help to man the TopCoder Competition Arena run ok? It is in the attachement.

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From onemda at gmail.com  Fri May  1 01:04:19 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Fri May  1 01:04:26 2009
Subject: output of ifconfig list scan
In-Reply-To: <49F9BF78.5000402@virtualhost.nl>
References: <49F98BB9.3020806@virtualhost.nl>
	<3a142e750904300743l7a154749r3b97ecb82f4c4f33@mail.gmail.com>
	<49F9BF78.5000402@virtualhost.nl>
Message-ID: <3a142e750904301804v37951620jd435c0017cdad064@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/30/09, Jeroen Hofstee <freebsd.questions@virtualhost.nl> wrote:
> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>>> It appears that the tool assumes SSID are reported as
>>> SSID<session>, which is not the case here. My list is similar as listed
>>> in the handbook,
>>>
>>> Looking at ifconfig, it appears to me that the ieee80211 part queries
>>> the kernel and prints the returned values.
>>> I therefore assume that there are drivers, which report the session as
>>> SSID<session> instead of session directly.
>>>
>>
>> Whatever <session> means it is either not supported by NDIS or not
>> implemented
>> in ndisulator.
>>
> Perhaps I should explain my question a bit better. The <session> is just
> mentioned as an example.
> With the ndiswrapper the wifi is working proper and lists the available
> network (only mine shown), e.g.
>
> SSID            BSSID              CHAN RATE   S:N     INT CAPS
> DV201AM         00:13:d4:7a:16:b1    1   54M -51:-96  100 EP
> ....
>
> The wificonfig tool _assumes_ the output of ifconfig would look like.
> SSID            BSSID              CHAN RATE   S:N     INT CAPS
> SSID<DV201AM>         00:13:d4:7a:16:b1    1   54M -51:-96  100 EP
> ....
>
> My question is if there are wifi drivers which report the SSID like
> this, instead of reporting them
> directly as in my case and if so how the output is formatted in that case.

This is first time I heard about this, and looks like wificonfig tool bug.


-- 
Paul
From jalmberg at identry.com  Fri May  1 01:44:19 2009
From: jalmberg at identry.com (John Almberg)
Date: Fri May  1 01:44:26 2009
Subject: Is it necessary to generate a new SSL request each year?
In-Reply-To: <200904300742.32991.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <624F45CA-1083-4DC2-8A98-DFE44B5B6CE8@identry.com>
	<20090429225158.GC91578@dan.emsphone.com>
	<18936.56654.494648.286696@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
	<200904300742.32991.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <D0C3DEE4-D15B-476A-A592-9F5673E4415E@identry.com>

>>>
>>>  You can reuse the old one.
>>
>> 	I'm not an expert on these, but it was my understanding that
>> certificates carry in internal "expiration date" after which the
>> application may respond as it pleases.
>
> Yes, but the *request* does not.
> Also, if using openssl, just set the defaults in /etc/ssl/ 
> openssl.cnf to your
> values, so you can enter through the questions

Cool... save a minute here and a minute there... at the end of a  
year, I might have enough saved up to take lunch!

-- John


From weif at weif.net  Fri May  1 01:44:31 2009
From: weif at weif.net (Keith Seyffarth)
Date: Fri May  1 01:44:38 2009
Subject: Gnucash 2.2.7_2 after upgrade to Firefox 3.0.9
In-Reply-To: <20090429201157.4f40214f@centaur.5550h.net>
	(bunchou@googlemail.com)
References: <20090429174842.8E786A40EE@maxine.cjones.org>
	<20090429201157.4f40214f@centaur.5550h.net>
Message-ID: <20090501014429.E6AB5A39A9@maxine.cjones.org>


This patch worked for me:

https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2009-April/029582.html
From rfalang.bob at gmail.com  Fri May  1 04:03:12 2009
From: rfalang.bob at gmail.com (Bob Falanga)
Date: Fri May  1 04:03:20 2009
Subject: where do I find libthr
Message-ID: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com>

I am using pcbsd 6.3
When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared object
"libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2")

Can anyone help me?

Bob Falanga
From illoai at gmail.com  Fri May  1 06:30:11 2009
From: illoai at gmail.com (illoai@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May  1 06:30:18 2009
Subject: where do I find libthr
In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7195cff0904302330y14b387c8nc1d4531d022a90b7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/1 Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com>:
> I am using pcbsd 6.3
> When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared object
> "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2")
>

What d'ya get when you type:
locate libthr.so

Also, how did you install apache22 or kdesvn?

-- 
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From sebster at sebster.com  Fri May  1 08:13:20 2009
From: sebster at sebster.com (Sebastiaan van Erk)
Date: Fri May  1 08:13:27 2009
Subject: CARP & bridge
In-Reply-To: <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com>
References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com>	<1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be>
	<49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com> <49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr>
	<49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com> <49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com>

Hi,

Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
> Sebastiaan van Erk wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but unfortunately the carp 
>> device never leaves the INIT state when I put the ip on the bridge. 
>> :-( I did find some similar problem here:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=125816
> 
> I just noticed that. On -CURRENT carp tells you that's
> not supported:
> bridge0: carp is not supported for this interface type
> 
> OTOH why do you even have to use the VIP from the remote
> side of the bridge?
> 
> The only reason I can think of, for doing  such a thing,
> is to get *all* traffic from the remote location through
> a "single" redundant router, the one with the VIP. Is this
> the case?

It is indeed a "single" redundant router, though the traffic from the 
other side of the bridge (the OpenVPN clients) generally don't need to 
be routed redudantantly. The OpenVPN clients use OpenVPN's redundancy 
(multiple "remote xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" lines), and thus use the 
non-redundant IP address of the OpenVPN client they're connected to as 
gateway (which is fine, because if the server dies OpenVPN connects to a 
different server anyway)...

So I don't really *NEED* the CARP ip address over the bridge (the static 
arp works, so I have a working solution, albeit an ugly one; an ARP 
request generates a reply from every member of the redundant cluster).

I guess it's just not a supported configuration yet and it's not my 
stupidity (in this case anyway ;-)) that's the problem.

> Nikos

Regards,
Sebastiaan
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From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 12:55:13 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 12:55:22 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <200904301200.44224.tijl@ulyssis.org>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <200904301200.44224.tijl@ulyssis.org>
Message-ID: <49FAF132.2090809@videotron.ca>

Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 22:04:34 PJ wrote:
>> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote:
>>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant)
>>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>> Identifier "X.org Configured"
>>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
>>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "Files"
>>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "Module"
>>>> Load "extmod"
>>>> Load "record"
>>>> Load "dbe"
>>>> Load "glx"
>>>> Load "GLcore"
>>>> Load "xtrap"
>>>> Load "dri"
>>>> Load "freetype"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "InputDevice"
>>>> Identifier "Keyboard0"
>>>> Driver "kbd"
>>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
>>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter.
>>>
>>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca"
>>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY
>>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be
>>> set to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
>>> "ca(fr)".
>> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
>> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which
>> is rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get
>> the accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's
>> just a pita.
>
> It works for me. What if you run "setxkbmap ca" or "setxkbmap ca multi"
> in an X terminal? Do you then get "azerty" when you type "qwerty"?
> _______________________________________________
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>
I have things under control. the only problem I was having was the
switching. That is taken care of by using Option  "XkbOption"
"grp:alt_shift_toggle"
That allows to switch back and forth.
Check your keyboard and verify the keys next to the rtShift, rtEnter
keys: to the left, and the two above rtEnter.  If you have the real,
true French CAnadian keyboard or keymap installed, you will get
&eacute;, &egrave;, &ccedil; and &agrave characters - WITH ONE KEYSTROKE
EACH. If you only get ` tick or ' with one key press, then it is some
kind of French keyboard or old French Candadian.
I have not been able to get this under xorg. (using fluxbox).
If you are getting the true French Canadian keyboard, you must be using
a different windows manager. Which do you have?

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.ptahhotep.com
http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 13:11:10 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 13:11:18 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <69508507@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <69508507@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca>

Boris Samorodov wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote:
>   
>> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this.
>>>>
>>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries)
>>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16"
>>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14"
>>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8"
>>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan"
>>>> rpcbind_enable="YES"
>>>> mountd_flags="-r"
>>>> nfs_client_enable="YES"
>>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4"
>>>> samba_enable="YES"
>>>> cupsd_enable="YES"
>>>> apache22_enable="YES"
>>>> postgresql_enable="YES"
>>>> mysql_enable="YES"
>>>> webmin_enable="YES"
>>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd
>>>>
>>>> Question:
>>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes
>>>> of .fnt - ???
>>>>         
>>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted.
>>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1).
>>>
>>>       
>>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the
>>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured
>>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make
>>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated
>>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S.
>>>>         
>>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set
>>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup
>>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so,
>>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've
>>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8.
>>>       
>
> No answer. Which locale do you use?
>   
default us
>   
>>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant)
>>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>> Identifier "X.org Configured"
>>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
>>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>>>>         
>
> Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may
> give you some additional information.
>
>   
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "Files"
>>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>>>>         
>
> Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic
> letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale.
>
>   
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "Module"
>>>> Load "extmod"
>>>> Load "record"
>>>> Load "dbe"
>>>> Load "glx"
>>>> Load "GLcore"
>>>> Load "xtrap"
>>>> Load "dri"
>>>> Load "freetype"
>>>> EndSection
>>>>
>>>> Section "InputDevice"
>>>> Identifier "Keyboard0"
>>>> Driver "kbd"
>>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
>>>>         
>>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter.
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca"
>>>>         
>>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY
>>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set
>>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
>>> "ca(fr)".
>>>       
>> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
>> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is
>> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the
>> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita.
>>     
>
> Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you
> have tried.
>
> Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst  [1]
> for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards.
>
> And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> There are many useful diagnistics at this file.
>
>   
>>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle"
>>>>         
>>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this.
>>>       
>> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and
>> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems
>> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the
>> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or
>> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer
>> works. Weird.
>> Any idea where the documentation is for this?
>> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or
>> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle"
>>     
>
> Looking at [1] should help.
>
>
> HTH & WBR
>   
Hi, Boris,
Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the
profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all
as I like. Everything works fine...
EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap
(without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg
(with fluxbox as wm)
As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard
produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the
French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I
am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with
ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the
circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase).
In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions"
"grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list
several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next
(haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a
boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose
you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need.


-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
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   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From bsam at ipt.ru  Fri May  1 13:25:02 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Fri May  1 13:25:10 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Fri\,
	01 May 2009 09\:11\:02 -0400")
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca>
	<200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F85422.20403@videotron.ca>
	<200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org> <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca>
	<69508507@bb.ipt.ru> <49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>

On Fri, 01 May 2009 09:11:02 -0400 PJ wrote:
> Boris Samorodov wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote:
> >   
> >> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this.
> >>>>
> >>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries)
> >>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16"
> >>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14"
> >>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8"
> >>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan"
> >>>> rpcbind_enable="YES"
> >>>> mountd_flags="-r"
> >>>> nfs_client_enable="YES"
> >>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4"
> >>>> samba_enable="YES"
> >>>> cupsd_enable="YES"
> >>>> apache22_enable="YES"
> >>>> postgresql_enable="YES"
> >>>> mysql_enable="YES"
> >>>> webmin_enable="YES"
> >>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd
> >>>>
> >>>> Question:
> >>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes
> >>>> of .fnt - ???
> >>>>         
> >>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted.
> >>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1).
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the
> >>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured
> >>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make
> >>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated
> >>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S.
> >>>>         
> >>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set
> >>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup
> >>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so,
> >>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've
> >>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8.
> >>>       
> >
> > No answer. Which locale do you use?
> >   
> default us
> >   
> >>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant)
> >>>> Section "ServerLayout"
> >>>> Identifier "X.org Configured"
> >>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
> >>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> >>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
> >>>>         
> >
> > Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may
> > give you some additional information.
> >
> >   
> >>>> EndSection
> >>>>
> >>>> Section "Files"
> >>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
> >>>>         
> >
> > Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic
> > letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale.
> >
> >   
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> >>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
> >>>> EndSection
> >>>>
> >>>> Section "Module"
> >>>> Load "extmod"
> >>>> Load "record"
> >>>> Load "dbe"
> >>>> Load "glx"
> >>>> Load "GLcore"
> >>>> Load "xtrap"
> >>>> Load "dri"
> >>>> Load "freetype"
> >>>> EndSection
> >>>>
> >>>> Section "InputDevice"
> >>>> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> >>>> Driver "kbd"
> >>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
> >>>>         
> >>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter.
> >>>
> >>>       
> >>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca"
> >>>>         
> >>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY

[2]

> >>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set
> >>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
> >>> "ca(fr)".
> >>>       
> >> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
> >> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is
> >> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the
> >> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita.
> >>     
> >
> > Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you
> > have tried.
> >
> > Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst  [1]
> > for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards.
> >
> > And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> > There are many useful diagnistics at this file.
> >
> >>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle"
> >>>>         
> >>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this.
> >>>       
> >> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and
> >> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems
> >> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the
> >> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or
> >> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer
> >> works. Weird.
> >> Any idea where the documentation is for this?
> >> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or
> >> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle"
> >>     
> >
> > Looking at [1] should help.
> >
> >
> > HTH & WBR
> >   
> Hi, Boris,
> Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the
> profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all
> as I like. Everything works fine...
> EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap
> (without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg
> (with fluxbox as wm)
> As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard
> produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the
> French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I

Does that mead that your keyboard is not shown at wiki [2]?

> am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with
> ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the
> circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase).

Did you look at [1]? There are some tree variants for canadian
multilingual keyboards: multix, multi, multi-2gr. May be this
may help you.

> In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions"
> "grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list
> several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next
> (haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a
> boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose
> you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need.

BTW, may be another mail list (x11@) may give you some more
experienced eyes to help you.


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 13:57:45 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 13:57:52 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca> <69508507@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAF4E6.2020906@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca>

Boris Samorodov wrote:
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 09:11:02 -0400 PJ wrote:
>   
>> Boris Samorodov wrote:
>>     
>>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:04:34 -0400 PJ wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> On Wednesday 29 April 2009 15:20:34 PJ wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Cool. Then I can ask some questions regarding all of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rc.conf: (snipped to show the relevant entries)
>>>>>> font8x16="iso15-8x16"
>>>>>> font8x14="iso15-8x14"
>>>>>> font8x8="iso15-8x8"
>>>>>> allscreens_flags="VGA_80x60 cyan"
>>>>>> rpcbind_enable="YES"
>>>>>> mountd_flags="-r"
>>>>>> nfs_client_enable="YES"
>>>>>> nfs_client_flags="-n 4"
>>>>>> samba_enable="YES"
>>>>>> cupsd_enable="YES"
>>>>>> apache22_enable="YES"
>>>>>> postgresql_enable="YES"
>>>>>> mysql_enable="YES"
>>>>>> webmin_enable="YES"
>>>>>> #keymap=fr_CA.iso.acc.kbd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>> 1. the font entries? The /usr/share/syscons/fonts/ entry has suffixes
>>>>>> of .fnt - ???
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Your font and keymap settings are ok. The extensions can be omitted.
>>>>> See the EXAMPLES sections in vidcontrol(1) and kbdcontrol(1).
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> 2. the keymap is commented out because, although it gives me the
>>>>>> fr_CA keyboard, it also uses French messages which are a bit tortured
>>>>>> (French courtly affectations in the language are quaint but also make
>>>>>> for long and convoluted terminology - notice that a text translated
>>>>>> to French is always longer). K.I.S.S.
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Keyboard settings shouldn't affect message localisation. Do you set
>>>>> the environment variable LANG in ~/.login_conf or in a shell startup
>>>>> script (.profile or .cshrc or other depending on the shell)? If so,
>>>>> set it to en_CA.ISO8859-15 or something. From q5 below I think you've
>>>>> currently set it to fr_CA.utf-8.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>> No answer. Which locale do you use?
>>>   
>>>       
>> default us
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>>> xorg.conf: (snip for relevant)
>>>>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>>>> Identifier "X.org Configured"
>>>>>> Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
>>>>>> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>>>> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>>>> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>> Seems that you use new X stuff. X11@ and gnome@ maillist archieves may
>>> give you some additional information.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section "Files"
>>>>>> ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>> Unless I add cyrillic fonts, I'm not able to see cyrillic
>>> letters at xterm for my utf-8 locale.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>>>>>> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section "Module"
>>>>>> Load "extmod"
>>>>>> Load "record"
>>>>>> Load "dbe"
>>>>>> Load "glx"
>>>>>> Load "GLcore"
>>>>>> Load "xtrap"
>>>>>> Load "dri"
>>>>>> Load "freetype"
>>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section "InputDevice"
>>>>>> Identifier "Keyboard0"
>>>>>> Driver "kbd"
>>>>>> Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> This might have to be pc105, but it probably doesn't matter.
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY
>>>>>           
>
> [2]
>
>   
>>>>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set
>>>>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
>>>>> "ca(fr)".
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
>>>> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is
>>>> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the
>>>> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Phil, you didn't say which keyboard do you use and which options you
>>> have tried.
>>>
>>> Anyway, you may look at /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst  [1]
>>> for options that can be used at xorg.conf for keyboards.
>>>
>>> And you may be interested in looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
>>> There are many useful diagnistics at this file.
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle"
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this.
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and
>>>> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems
>>>> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the
>>>> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or
>>>> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer
>>>> works. Weird.
>>>> Any idea where the documentation is for this?
>>>> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or
>>>> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle"
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Looking at [1] should help.
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH & WBR
>>>   
>>>       
>> Hi, Boris,
>> Thanks much for your input. I looked at all the possibilities, like the
>> profile, login.conf files, logs, google and have finally configured all
>> as I like. Everything works fine...
>> EXCEPT - it is impossible to install a French-Canadian keyboard/keymap
>> (without creating one - and I'm not about to get into that) on xorg
>> (with fluxbox as wm)
>> As I just responded to Tijl Goosemans, the true French Canadian keyboard
>> produces the most common accented characters with one keystroke; the
>> French or old Fr-Canadian uses 2 keystrokes. I can assure you because I
>>     
>
> Does that mead that your keyboard is not shown at wiki [2]?
>
>   
>> am typing on that keyboard right now. I switch between us & fr_ca with
>> ShiftAlt. the key to the right of the p/P key is used to create the
>> circumfex (lowercase) in conjunction with a vowel or umlaut (uppercase).
>>     
>
> Did you look at [1]? There are some tree variants for canadian
> multilingual keyboards: multix, multi, multi-2gr. May be this
> may help you.
>
>   
>> In Xorg, the toggle/switching is set with Option "XkbOptions"
>> "grp:alt_shift_toggle" or just alt or shift, I think. Also you can list
>> several languages, like "us,ru,es,fr" and switch from one to the next
>> (haven't tried, but I think it works); and "CoreKeyboard" must have a
>> boolean option set - either yes or no - "yes" works for me. I suppose
>> you could enter true/false, but I haven't tried. No need.
>>     
>
> BTW, may be another mail list (x11@) may give you some more
> experienced eyes to help you.
>
>
> WBR
>   
The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I am
using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian multi.
But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us for
switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the keys
should be set to nodeadkeys.
But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this as
is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
Oh, BTW, I have not been able to find any source of specific information
about all the allowed configuration options for the xorg keyboard setup.
One would think that the man page would have it all, but nope.

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From seurbors at gmail.com  Fri May  1 14:12:53 2009
From: seurbors at gmail.com (Seur Bors)
Date: Fri May  1 14:12:59 2009
Subject: kernel errors - watchdog timeout
Message-ID: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I'm constantly getting the following repeated in my /var/log/messages:

kernel: re0: watchdog timeout
kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
kernel: re0: link state changed to UP

This was happening right from the get-go on new hardware running
7.1-Release-p4, but only happened infrequently. Apparently as well, although
everything seems to be working, the server seems to be responding very
sluggish (over 10 minutes to work with a 1MB file through a Samba share, no
exageration on the time).

Can someone point me to required reading for these types of networking
errors?

Thanks in advance!
From tijl at ulyssis.org  Fri May  1 14:17:20 2009
From: tijl at ulyssis.org (Tijl Coosemans)
Date: Fri May  1 14:17:27 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>

On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I
> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian
> multi.
> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this
> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.

I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of
Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of
"grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 14:41:57 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 14:42:04 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
Message-ID: <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca>

Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
>   
>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I
>> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian
>> multi.
>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this
>> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
>> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
>>     
>
> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of
> Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of
> "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
>
>   
Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009
symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others
You'd think it would work...
Doesn't make sense. 

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From tijl at ulyssis.org  Fri May  1 15:18:27 2009
From: tijl at ulyssis.org (Tijl Coosemans)
Date: Fri May  1 15:18:34 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org>

On Friday 01 May 2009 16:41:52 PJ wrote:
> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
>>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech
>>> I am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us &
>>> canadian multi.
>>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
>>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
>>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
>>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on
>>> this as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that
>>> the ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
>> 
>> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version
>> of Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output
>> of "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
> 
> Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009
> symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others
> You'd think it would work...
> Doesn't make sense.

Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"?
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 15:34:18 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 15:34:26 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
Message-ID: <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca>

Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I
>> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian
>> multi.
>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this
>> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
>> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
>
> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of
> Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of
> "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
>
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    Option    "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "kbd"
    Option  "CoreKeyboard" "yes"
    Option    "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option  "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
    Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option  "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
    Option  "CustomKeycodes" "on"
EndSection
====from log:
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)"
(**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on"
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
(**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
====
Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like
its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if
it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the
ca(multi) just does not.
Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost.
-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
http://www.ptahhotep.com
http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php
From on at cs.ait.ac.th  Fri May  1 15:35:22 2009
From: on at cs.ait.ac.th (Olivier Nicole)
Date: Fri May  1 15:35:30 2009
Subject: Xdvi with amd64
Message-ID: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>

Hi,

Is there known issue with the port of Xdvi (/usr/ports/print/xdvi) on
6.4 amd64?

I suspect there is a problem with the size of the int/short/long as
Xdvi detects wrong number of bits in some font files, while these same
font files are used without problem by other ports and are identical
to font files generated in x86 system.

Is there an option to compile a port in strict 32 bits mode?

TIA

Olivier
From bsam at ipt.ru  Fri May  1 15:59:58 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Fri May  1 16:00:06 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> (PJ's message of "Fri\,
	01 May 2009 11\:34\:19 -0400")
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <12361812@bb.ipt.ru>

On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote:
> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> > On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
> >> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I
> >> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian
> >> multi.
> >> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
> >> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
> >> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
> >> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this
> >> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
> >> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
> >
> > I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of
> > Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of
> > "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
> >
> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>     Option    "AllowEmptyInput" "off"

So you don't want to use hal...

> EndSection
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>     Driver      "kbd"
>     Option  "CoreKeyboard" "yes"
>     Option    "XkbModel" "pc105"
>     Option  "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
>     Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
>     Option  "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
>     Option  "CustomKeycodes" "on"
> EndSection
> ====from log:
> (**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
> (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
> (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
> (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
> (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105"
> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
> (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)"
> (**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
> (**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on"
> (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
> (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
> (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
> (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg"
> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105"
> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us"
> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
> (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)

I'm not an expert in hal, but seems that hal is used.
May be disabling hal helps?

> ====
> Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like
> its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if
> it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the
> ca(multi) just does not.
> Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost.

If you want to use hal (and configure your kdb via hal) then you may be
interested in:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From frank at shute.org.uk  Fri May  1 16:41:21 2009
From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute)
Date: Fri May  1 16:41:29 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:04:34PM -0400, PJ wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> >
> > Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY
> > If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set
> > to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
> > "ca(fr)".
>
> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is
> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the
> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita.

To some extent it depends what applications you use. I use vim &
LaTeX.

In vim I can get digraphs for email etc. :help dig

For hardcopy I use LaTeX for some Finnish and, for example, umlauts are
\"{o} etc.

So basically I don't need a foreign keyboard because my applications
sort that out for me. I'd recommend using applications that don't need
digraphs entering from the keyboard.

> >
> >> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle"
> >
> > If you don't need layout switching just delete this.
> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and
> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems
> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the
> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or
> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer
> works. Weird.
> Any idea where the documentation is for this?

Check out ~/.fluxbox/keys and that it's not interfering. There's a
manpage for it: fluxbox-keys(5)

> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or
> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle"

The X docs are a disgrace IMHO. Where are the docs about the new
options such as dontZap etc? They don't seem to exist.</rant>

[snip]

Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 

From martin at dc.cis.okstate.edu  Fri May  1 17:07:36 2009
From: martin at dc.cis.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Date: Fri May  1 17:07:42 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
Message-ID: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>

Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
the full system?

	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.

	Thanks.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 17:16:29 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 17:16:36 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200904291041.01818.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F85422.20403@videotron.ca> <200904291933.04052.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49F8B2D2.40409@videotron.ca>
	<20090501164110.GA44753@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
Message-ID: <49FB2E5E.9090707@videotron.ca>

Frank Shute wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 04:04:34PM -0400, PJ wrote:
>   
> [snip]
>   
>>> Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#QWERTY
>>> If you have Canadian Multilingual Standard, this option needs to be set
>>> to "ca(multi)". If you have Canadian French, set it to "ca" or
>>> "ca(fr)".
>>>       
>> This does not set it to the Canadian French; nor can I find anything
>> that does... only my lame setup works using the French azerty (which is
>> rather a pain because it involves complicated finger moves to get the
>> accented characters - I'm familiar with it and can use it; it's just a pita.
>>     
>
> To some extent it depends what applications you use. I use vim &
> LaTeX.
>
> In vim I can get digraphs for email etc. :help dig
>
> For hardcopy I use LaTeX for some Finnish and, for example, umlauts are
> \"{o} etc.
>
> So basically I don't need a foreign keyboard because my applications
> sort that out for me. I'd recommend using applications that don't need
> digraphs entering from the keyboard.
>
>   
>>>> Option "XkbOptions" "grp:toggle"
>>>>         
>>> If you don't need layout switching just delete this.
>>>       
>> I guess I wasn't clear. Toggling was meant to mean switching back and
>> forth; switching - just once. I would like to use switching but it seems
>> to only work one way. Can't switch back. rtAlt switches from us to the
>> ca (which oddly seems to mean French, but nothing to do with Canadian or
>> French Canadian. Only fluxbox brings it back and then rtAlt no longer
>> works. Weird.
>> Any idea where the documentation is for this?
>>     
>
> Check out ~/.fluxbox/keys and that it's not interfering. There's a
> manpage for it: fluxbox-keys(5)
>
>   
>> The man page is rather foggy and has no mention of XkbOptions or
>> XkbLayout or anything about "grp:toggle"
>>     
>
> The X docs are a disgrace IMHO. Where are the docs about the new
> options such as dontZap etc? They don't seem to exist.</rant>
>
> [snip]
>
> Regards,
>
>   
Glad to hear I'm not the only one complaining about documentation.
The language use is not a question of applications but of text - I don't
have problems in any of my applications in entereing the language text
except on xorg. I can manage it with the current setup, but I just find
it strange that I cannot get the ca(multi) functioning correctly. Could
it be a question of the physical keyboard? I haven't yet tried this one
that works correctly on the FreeBSD machine, but that's next.
On the FreeBSD the ca(multi) does function with multiple accents like
the umlaut - with two keypresses - but on this XP box, the multi gives
me one-stroke accents for the French Canadian accents, upper as well as
lower case except for the ^ caret.
I rather doubt that Tijl Goosemans has enabled the same capabilities for
his *nix or FBSD box as I have on my XP; otherwise I would have had that
done long ago.  As I said before, I can set up the ca(multi) but it's
just not the right one. Just for laughs, I'm going to try this keyboard
on FreeBSD and see what happens.

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From craig001 at lerwick.hopto.org  Fri May  1 17:21:58 2009
From: craig001 at lerwick.hopto.org (Craig Butler)
Date: Fri May  1 17:22:05 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
Message-ID: <1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>

Bacula is your friend, tried and tested

http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000

/Craig

 

On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
> drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
> the full system?
> 
> 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
> The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
> the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
> based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.
> 
> 	Thanks.
> 
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
> Systems Engineer
> OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 17:24:02 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 17:24:09 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <12361812@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <24851107@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FAFFCF.9060702@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49FB167B.3060104@videotron.ca> <12361812@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca>

Boris Samorodov wrote:
> On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote:
>   
>> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>     
>>> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
>>>       
>>>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech I
>>>> am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us & canadian
>>>> multi.
>>>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
>>>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
>>>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
>>>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on this
>>>> as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that the
>>>> ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
>>>>         
>>> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version of
>>> Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output of
>>> "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
>>>
>>>       
>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>     Option    "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>>     
>
> So you don't want to use hal...
>
>   
>> EndSection
>> Section "InputDevice"
>>     Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>>     Driver      "kbd"
>>     Option  "CoreKeyboard" "yes"
>>     Option    "XkbModel" "pc105"
>>     Option  "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
>>     Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
>>     Option  "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
>>     Option  "CustomKeycodes" "on"
>> EndSection
>> ====from log:
>> (**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
>> (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
>> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
>> (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
>> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
>> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
>> (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
>> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
>> (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105"
>> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us,ca(multi)"
>> (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us,ca(multi)"
>> (**) Option "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
>> (**) Keyboard0: XkbOptions: "grp:alt_shift_toggle"
>> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "on"
>> (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes enabled
>> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
>> (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
>> (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
>> (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
>> (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
>> (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
>> (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
>> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: "xorg"
>> (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
>> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: "pc105"
>> (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
>> (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: "us"
>> (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
>> (**) AT Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
>> (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AT Keyboard" (type: KEYBOARD)
>>     
>
> I'm not an expert in hal, but seems that hal is used.
> May be disabling hal helps?
>
>   
>> ====
>> Any idea if "CustomKeycodes" should be used? Strange that it looks like
>> its off for one (which one} I added this but I have no idea where or if
>> it should be used. Had no effect, anyway. The switch works but the
>> ca(multi) just does not.
>> Or do we have to set up a another keyboard like Keyboard1 ? I'm lost.
>>     
>
> If you want to use hal (and configure your kdb via hal) then you may be
> interested in:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html
>
>
> WBR
>   
Don't trust it. Too complicated. ;-)

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From freebsd at edvax.de  Fri May  1 17:28:44 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Fri May  1 17:28:51 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
Message-ID: <20090501192836.4203a5d2.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Fri, 01 May 2009 12:07:22 -0500, Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> wrote:
> 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?

Yes, you can. The only thing you have to ensure is that
you have a means to access the dump files, for example
via network or from optical media (DVD).

A bit more comfortable is the use of a live file system
such as FreeSBIE.



> The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
> the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
> based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.

I'd suggest to use FreeBSD's sysinstall to make the new
disk bootable, i. e. create slices, create partitions,
format them. If you've done this correctly, you can
easily use restore to read in the dump files and put
their contents back on the respective partitions (from
where they have been created).



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Fri May  1 17:37:49 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Fri May  1 17:37:56 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011617.17118.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49FB0A30.1000309@videotron.ca> <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org>
Message-ID: <49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca>

Tijl Coosemans wrote:
> On Friday 01 May 2009 16:41:52 PJ wrote:
>   
>> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>>     
>>> On Friday 01 May 2009 15:57:35 PJ wrote:
>>>       
>>>> The physical keyboard is a Compaq, identical layout of the Logitech
>>>> I am using on this XP. This one is set to switch beween us &
>>>> canadian multi.
>>>> But the ca(multi) setting does not work either alone or with the us
>>>> for switching. The accent keys are dead. Maybe the option for the
>>>> keys should be set to nodeadkeys.
>>>> But this is not worth pursuing as I am spending too much time on
>>>> this as is. I have things under control, it just seems strange that
>>>> the ca(multi) cannot be installed. Could be fluxbox? Oh well.
>>>>         
>>> I just tried ca(multi) under fluxbox and it just works. What version
>>> of Xorg do you have (output of "X -version")? And what is the output
>>> of "grep xkb_symbols /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ca"?
>>>       
>> Version 1.6 buit 13 April 2009
>> symbols/ca = "multi", "multix', "multi-2gr", "fr", & a few others
>> You'd think it would work...
>> Doesn't make sense.
>>     
>
> Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"?
>
>   
Now, here's the weird stuff - ca multi works in Firefox... but not in xterm
so, the keyboard has to be set from fluxbox... works fine in Inkscape,
gnucash, abacus, so the real problem is in xterm - and that is totally
unimportant as long as good ol' English works it it.

-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From wblock at wonkity.com  Fri May  1 17:59:25 2009
From: wblock at wonkity.com (Warren Block)
Date: Fri May  1 17:59:33 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905011155190.55068@wonkity.com>

On Fri, 1 May 2009, Martin McCormick wrote:

> Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
> drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
> the full system?
>
> 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
> The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
> the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
> based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.

I've had success doing a minimal install from CD, booting from the new 
drive, and then restoring dumpfiles right over it.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
From illoai at gmail.com  Fri May  1 18:36:15 2009
From: illoai at gmail.com (illoai@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May  1 18:36:21 2009
Subject: where do I find libthr
In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com>
	<d7195cff0904302330y14b387c8nc1d4531d022a90b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d7195cff0905011136o72eb36ddu65118281d905cf69@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/1 Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com>:
>> > I am using pcbsd 6.3
>> > When I try to use apache22 or kdesvn I get an error message (Shared
>> > object
>> > "libthr.so.3" not found, required by "libapr-1.so.2")
>> >
>>
>> What d'ya get when you type:
>> locate libthr.so
>>
>> Also, how did you install apache22 or kdesvn?
>>
> When I try locate libthr I get? (locate: database too small:
> /var/db/locate.database)
> I used make install clean? to install apache22 & kdesvn.
>
(please include the list in your email)
To rebuild your locate database, just run
/etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate

It makes finding files much easier.

After a bit of poking, it seems that 6.3 has
/lib/libthr.so.2

You could try symlinking, but that will very
likely not work.

You can try reinstalling libapr, to see if it
will link the older library.  To find out where
it reports its origin:
pkg_info -o /var/db/pkg/\*libapr\*


If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to
upgrade to 7.x

-- 
--
From tijl at ulyssis.org  Fri May  1 18:59:54 2009
From: tijl at ulyssis.org (Tijl Coosemans)
Date: Fri May  1 19:00:01 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching
In-Reply-To: <49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <12361812@bb.ipt.ru>
	<49FB3034.3060403@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <200905012059.51449.tijl@ulyssis.org>

On Friday 01 May 2009 19:24:04 PJ wrote:
> Boris Samorodov wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 May 2009 11:34:19 -0400 PJ wrote:
>>> Section "ServerLayout"
>>>     Identifier     "X.org Configured"
>>>     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
>>>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>>>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>>>     Option    "AllowEmptyInput" "off"
>> 
>> So you don't want to use hal...

You might have to add this line to the ServerLayout section:

Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"

Then hal won't interfere with keyboard or mouse.
From tijl at ulyssis.org  Fri May  1 19:12:36 2009
From: tijl at ulyssis.org (Tijl Coosemans)
Date: Fri May  1 19:12:43 2009
Subject: French-Canadian Keyboard & keyboard switching - SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca>
References: <49F6DDAC.60800@videotron.ca> <200905011717.50896.tijl@ulyssis.org>
	<49FB3370.8070807@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <200905012112.27709.tijl@ulyssis.org>

On Friday 01 May 2009 19:37:52 PJ wrote:
> Tijl Coosemans wrote:
>> Have you tried running "setxkbmap ca multi"?
> 
> Now, here's the weird stuff - ca multi works in Firefox... but not in
> xterm so, the keyboard has to be set from fluxbox... works fine in
> Inkscape, gnucash, abacus, so the real problem is in xterm - and that
> is totally unimportant as long as good ol' English works it it.

You probably have to set LANG. Try running "setenv LANG en_CA.ISO8859-15".
If you can type accented letters then, you need to add something like
this to ~/.login_conf:

me:\
	:charset=ISO-8859-15:\
	:lang=en_CA.ISO8859-15:
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Fri May  1 19:32:51 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Fri May  1 19:32:58 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>
Message-ID: <20090501193214.GA44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:21:06PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote:

> Bacula is your friend, tried and tested
> 

The guy is making nice reliable dump(8)s of his file systems.
He doesn't need to waste time and energy with yet another thing.

Dump and restore work just fine, are part of the system and
handle situations like these most reliably..

////jerry


> http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000
> 
> /Craig
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
> > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
> > the full system?
> > 
> > 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
> > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
> > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
> > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.
> > 
> > 	Thanks.
> > 
> > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
> > Systems Engineer
> > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> 
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
From h.skuhra at gmail.com  Fri May  1 20:31:14 2009
From: h.skuhra at gmail.com (Herbert J. Skuhra)
Date: Fri May  1 20:31:21 2009
Subject: Cant connect to SVN server
In-Reply-To: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com>
References: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com>
Message-ID: <ed97ac910905011331k100e2933q8b15c3565d9ea7a1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/4/30 Warren Liddell <shinjii@maydias.com>:
> I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via
> svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated
> ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system..
>
>
> enterprise# svn up /usr/area51
> svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51':
> could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk)

You are probably looking for this information:

http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/03/area51-repository-moved-to-pcbsd/

But I think you get only KDE ports (testing) from Area51.

- Herbert
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Fri May  1 20:44:27 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Fri May  1 20:44:33 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
Message-ID: <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:

> Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
> drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
> the full system?
> 
> 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
> The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
> the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
> based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.

Yes.

By the way, dump/restore are the best for backup/recovery because
they handle the odd situations best - such as you replace the old
failed disk with a newer either larger or smaller (but still big
enough to hold everything) disk.   Other utilities cannot handle
that gracefully.  Dump/restore does.   There are a few other odd
cases as well.

I think you want what is called 'fixit' mode.   You can select
that when you boot from it.   I am not absolutely sure all sets
of disks are populated identically.  Check now that your CD has
the fixit and if it is on a different image, download that one,
burn it and stash it somewhere safe.

What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk.
That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it.   You can actually
use sysinstall to do this as well.  Just let the installer come
up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after
it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or
just let it finish and then overwrite it.

But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s
myself.  But, then I am used to it.

Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living,
then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk
set up currently.   Write it down or print it out and keep it
near that installation/fixit disk.

If you do   fdisk  ad0    or  fdisk da0  (depending on IDE/SATA or SCSI/SAS
respectively) without any other parameters, it will print out what it
thinks the disk is currently like.    Of course, if it is other 
than disk 0, use the correct number.

Then do a similar thing with bsdlabel.   bsdlabel -e ad0s1
or bsdlabel da0s1.    If you have more than one slice and FreeBSD
is not on slice 1, then use the correct slice identifier here.
So, if it is the second SATA drive and the third slice on it
that might look like  bsdlabel -e ad1s3.   
Note that drives number from 0, but slices number from 1.

Anyway, then copy the information it shows in the table down or
print it out.   Ignore the stuff on top - anything above where
it says:   '8 partitions:'    You are just interested in the
partition identifiers and the sizes and offsets, types 
and the fsize, bsize and bps/cpg.    Actually, you can normally
just take whatever defaults it gives you for fsize, bsize and bps/cpg
unless you are doing something extra exotic.

Then just get out of the edit session without writing/saving.
just type ESC :q!

Those numbers don't have to be the exact same on the new disk and
probably will not be, but you will want to have the information 
handy rather than have to recalculate it at a bad time.

NOTE, I am mostly writing this presuming that you have the machine
only running FreeBSD.  If you have it dual booted, you will want
the information on the other OS slices too.   fdisk will give you
what you need to know.   The FreeBSD fdisk is smart enough to report
on all slices -(what MS calls primary partitions) even if they are
not FreeBSD slices.   It does not report on extended partitions, but
it does not need to.  You only need to know about the primaries/slices.
You let those other OSen deal with 'extended' stuff.

If you have an MS or Lunix OS on it, then those should be put back first.
Whatever you did to divide the old disk will have to be done to make
the slices on the new disk.  Maybe Partition Magic or Gparted was used.

Once you have it divided in those major divisions (slices/primary partitions)
then use fdisk to make at least the FreeBSD slice boodable.  Those
other OSen will probably take care of it for theirs.

The easy thing is if the whole disk is being used by FreeBSD.
Then just do:
  fdisk -BI da0

That will make the whole disk FreeBSD and bootable.

Then do two bsdlabels.  The first sets up the label and the
second edits it to have the partitions you want.

  bsdlabel -w -B da0s1

  bsdlabel -e da0s1

You will see an edit session about like the one you saw when you
collected the information to stash away, except it will only show
a 'c' partition.

Leave that c partition alone, but make the other ones similar
to what you had on the old disk.     You only need to put in
the '0' value for the offset on the first (a) partition and then
put '*' in for the rest of the offsets.
Make the rest of the sizes what you want - remember the values
are in 512 byte block numbers by default.  That can be changed, but
just learn to use the blocks.   The number of blocks should come out
to be good round multiples of powers of 2.    So for 500 Megabytes,
use 512*1024*1024 bytes - which is 1024*1024  blocks, etc.
For the last partition, use '*' for the size as well as the offset
and it will put all the remaining usable space in that partition.

Do the  ESC :wq   to get out of the edit session and write the
table back.   

Now all you have to do is newfs each partition.   Just take the
defaults.   Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not
just the drive identifier.
  
  newfs /dev/da0s1a
  newfs /dev/da0s1d
  newfs /dev/da0s1e
    etc
Do not newfs the swat partition.

Now make mount points such as 
  mkdir /newroot
  mkdir /newusr
   etc for whatever you need

Then mount the partitions
  mkdir /dev/da0s1a /newroot
  mkdir /dev/da0s1e /newusr
   etc     NOTE, that it is very unusual to restore /tmp - not necessary.

Then do the restores from whatever media they are on.

  cd /newroot
  restore -r /dev/nsa0      
     If it is on tape.

If it is on another disk, such as a large external USB, you 
will need to find out its device name, mount it and restore from there.

  mkdir /usbbak
  mount /dev/da1s1a /usbbak

  cd /newroot
  restore -r /usbbak/rootbak

   or whatever you named it.

Do that for each backed up file system and then reboot.
Should work jsut fine.

////jerry


> 
> 	Thanks.
> 
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
> Systems Engineer
> OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
From nvass9573 at gmx.com  Fri May  1 20:45:04 2009
From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis)
Date: Fri May  1 20:45:12 2009
Subject: CARP & bridge
In-Reply-To: <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com>
References: <49F81FF2.3040302@sebster.com>	<1240999037.2645.3.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be>	<49F8269E.2010201@sebster.com>
	<49F89FE1.6070807@freemail.gr>	<49F8CC51.2030203@sebster.com>
	<49F94E25.6000900@gmx.com> <49FAAF1C.6040802@sebster.com>
Message-ID: <49FB5F2C.6080502@gmx.com>

Hi,

Sebastiaan van Erk wrote:
> So I don't really *NEED* the CARP ip address over the bridge (the static 
> arp works, so I have a working solution, albeit an ugly one; an ARP 
> request generates a reply from every member of the redundant cluster).

Just a guess, you could try adding the VIP/32 to the tap interface,
instead of the static arp thing. Don't know if it will work, it is
just a guess, which looks - to me - like a cleaner configuration.
At least it's rc.conf friendly.

Just my 0.000000002 euros, Nikos
From nslay at comcast.net  Fri May  1 20:49:27 2009
From: nslay at comcast.net (Nathan Lay)
Date: Fri May  1 20:49:35 2009
Subject: install -s
Message-ID: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net>

Should install -s really fail if strip fails?  I noticed cross-binutils 
strips everything it installs...in my case, one of the utilities it 
tries to strip is a script and install -s obnoxiously fails.
I set DONTSTRIP to get around this problem.

For a point of reference, I'm running a recent 7-STABLE.

Best Regards,
Nathan Lay
From craig001 at lerwick.hopto.org  Fri May  1 20:50:16 2009
From: craig001 at lerwick.hopto.org (craig001@lerwick.hopto.org)
Date: Fri May  1 20:50:23 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <20090501193214.GA44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<1241198466.19500.8.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org>
	<20090501193214.GA44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <4830.192.168.0.146.1241211018.squirrel@lerwick.hopto.org>

> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:21:06PM +0100, Craig Butler wrote:
>
>> Bacula is your friend, tried and tested
>>
>
> The guy is making nice reliable dump(8)s of his file systems.
> He doesn't need to waste time and energy with yet another thing.
>
> Dump and restore work just fine, are part of the system and
> handle situations like these most reliably..
>
> ////jerry
Sorry I just skip read it, wasn't sure he was using dump, but agreed
dump/restore easy peasy, included and quick.

>
>
>> http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Disast_Recove_Using_Bacula.html#SECTION0043150000000000000000
>>
>> /Craig
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:07 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
>> > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
>> > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
>> > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
>> > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
>> > are back where we started. If you do not have hot-swappable
>> > drives which we mostly do not, What is the best way to restore
>> > the full system?
>> >
>> > 	Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?
>> > The idea would be to boot the CDROM, go in to rescue mode, mount
>> > the new drive which may be blank right now, and then use restore
>> > based on the last dump of the system we are trying to revive.
>> >
>> > 	Thanks.
>> >
>> > Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
>> > Systems Engineer
>> > OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>


From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Fri May  1 20:51:27 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Fri May  1 20:51:35 2009
Subject: Cant connect to SVN server
In-Reply-To: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com>
References: <49F97FA2.8040003@maydias.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905011351h747ae9c5v76f3e0bba2c8ae2a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Warren Liddell <shinjii@maydias.com> wrote:
> I have been trying for the last couple weeks to update my ports etc via
> svn but each time i try i get the below msg, im running latest updated
> ports atm via csup on a FREEBSD7.1-STABLE AMD64 system..
>
>
> enterprise# svn up /usr/area51
> svn: OPTIONS of 'https://kf.athame.co.uk/kde-freebsd/trunk/area51':
> could not connect to server (https://kf.athame.co.uk)
>

I had already answered this question a few days ago -- but here it is again.

According to a recent post [1], the SVN server has changed [2] since
March 22, 2009.

[1] http://miwi.bsdcrew.de/2009/03/area51-repository-moved-to-pcbsd/
[2] http://area51.pcbsd.org/




-- 
Glen Barber
From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Fri May  1 21:41:01 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Fri May  1 21:41:09 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>

Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a
>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see
>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages:
>>
>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:";
>> throttling interrupt source
>>
>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop.
>>
>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling
>>
>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling
>>
>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling.
>> Or I've got the syntax wrong.
> 
> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to
> see if it is possible).
> 
>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9
>>
>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++
>>
>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE
>>
>> Any way I can get this thing working?
> 
> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if possible).

This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no 
reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for 
this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac 
and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am
I looking in the right place?

The bios is minimal so can't turn off sound or one channel of cbb.

Chris

> 
> 


From nf at wh3rd.net  Sat May  2 00:03:16 2009
From: nf at wh3rd.net (nf)
Date: Sat May  2 00:03:23 2009
Subject: Poor ZFS performance
Message-ID: <e2fbd2a10905011639x475c1fbex92508493449bff51@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

I've got a ZFS-based file server running FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE, with two
raidz1's of 3 x 500gb.

Recently my system has exhibited exceptionally poor performance in a
way that confuses me. None of the drives are in a degraded state, and
zpool iostat reports typical performance figures, while actual
applications (dd, in this case) only receive data at much lower rates.

My basic benchmark, and once that I'd used before, is to dd a big file
and output it to /dev/null. What's occurring now is mystifying, as dd
is reporting much lower figures than zpool iostat.

--

nf@ice2:~>uname -a
FreeBSD ice2 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Sun Feb  8 20:31:17 EST
2009     root@ice2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

nf@ice2:/media/nf/videos>dd if=sph-kingok.avi of=/dev/null
1433288+0 records in
1433288+0 records out
733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec)

(and, while that's running:)

nf@ice2:~>sudo zpool iostat -v 2
                capacity     operations    bandwidth
pool          used  avail   read  write   read  write
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
data         1.19T  1.53T     13     29   990K   153K
  raidz1     1.01T   361G      9     11   641K  58.8K
    ad4s1d       -      -      3      8   283K  30.2K
    ad8s1d       -      -      3      8   282K  30.2K
    ad10s1d      -      -      3      8   284K  30.2K
  raidz1      191G  1.17T      4     17   349K  94.5K
    ad6s1d       -      -      1     12   138K  48.3K
    ad10s1e      -      -      1     12   134K  48.3K
    ad12s1d      -      -      2     12   141K  48.3K
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----

                capacity     operations    bandwidth
pool          used  avail   read  write   read  write
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
data         1.19T  1.53T  1.41K      0   179M      0
  raidz1     1.01T   361G  1.40K      0   179M      0
    ad4s1d       -      -    676      0  72.1M      0
    ad8s1d       -      -    453      0  45.1M      0
    ad10s1d      -      -    605      0  61.7M      0
  raidz1      191G  1.17T      4      0   127K      0
    ad6s1d       -      -      0      0  49.9K      0
    ad10s1e      -      -      1      0  74.4K      0
    ad12s1d      -      -      1      0  92.1K      0
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----

                capacity     operations    bandwidth
pool          used  avail   read  write   read  write
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----
data         1.19T  1.53T  1.19K    102   152M   517K
  raidz1     1.01T   361G  1.19K     42   152M   149K
    ad4s1d       -      -    369     16  39.2M  75.4K
    ad8s1d       -      -    436     17  48.7M  77.2K
    ad10s1d      -      -    563     19  65.3M  76.2K
  raidz1      191G  1.17T      5     59   116K   368K
    ad6s1d       -      -      0     32  63.9K   187K
    ad10s1e      -      -      2     34   146K   188K
    ad12s1d      -      -      1     34   114K   190K
-----------  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----  -----

^C
--

So I presume you discount the first output of iostat as a measuring
error, and interpret the subsequent outputs as cumulative over the
repeat interval (in this case each two seconds). What I'm seeing is
the ZFS pool being read from at 70-90mb/sec, while dd is only getting
data at 12mb/sec. Where is all the data that's being read from the
disk going?

As I said before, on previous attempts iostat and dd reported figures
that corresponded with each other. I'm not sure what's changed between
those attempts.

(There is nothing else reading from disk at the same time. As soon as
the dd concludes, zpool iostat reports the arrays are idle.)

FWIW, here's what top reports while I'm running the dd:

--
CPU:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 14.3% system,  4.5% interrupt, 80.8% idle
Mem: 1950M Active, 868M Inact, 537M Wired, 238M Cache, 363M Buf, 87M Free
Swap: 1024M Total, 101M Used, 923M Free, 9% Inuse

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
 8402 nf          1  50    0  4604K   788K zio->i 0   0:03  8.59% dd
--

If anyone can shed some light on what's going on here, I'd be most appreciated.

Thanks,
nf
From onemda at gmail.com  Sat May  2 00:11:17 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sat May  2 00:11:23 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a
>>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see
>>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages:
>>>
>>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:";
>>> throttling interrupt source
>>>
>>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop.
>>>
>>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling
>>>
>>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling
>>>
>>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support polling.
>>> Or I've got the syntax wrong.
>>
>> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to
>> see if it is possible).
>>
>>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9
>>>
>>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++
>>>
>>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE
>>>
>>> Any way I can get this thing working?
>>
>> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if
>> possible).
>
> This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no
> reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for
> this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac
> and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am
> I looking in the right place?

msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default
on CURRENT (dunno about 7):
hint.hdac.%d.msi=1

You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0.
Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right line(s)
in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8)

Dunno if that will work .... (never tried)

-- 
Paul
From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Sat May  2 00:16:54 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Sat May  2 00:17:01 2009
Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>

I have a fairly new install of 6.4, done over the 'net, on this old
Micron full tower dual PPro-180. The SMP kernel was automagically
installed:

# uname -a
FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed
Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008
root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  i386

Performance was *rather* sluggish so I tried to ascertain if both
processors were running:

# dmesg | grep cpu
cpu0 on motherboard

Q1. Is there a better way to establish how many processors are running?

Q2. Do I need to specify, say in rc.conf, that I *want* SMP to be enabled?


Best regards,

-- 
Duane
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From rfalang.bob at gmail.com  Sat May  2 01:17:47 2009
From: rfalang.bob at gmail.com (Bob Falanga)
Date: Sat May  2 01:17:54 2009
Subject: where do I find libthr
In-Reply-To: <d7195cff0905011136o72eb36ddu65118281d905cf69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com>
	<d7195cff0904302330y14b387c8nc1d4531d022a90b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<d7195cff0905011136o72eb36ddu65118281d905cf69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58d1e8d30905011817i2591c0a8xdac47a2123b7e2b2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:36 PM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com>:
> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> (please include the list in your email)


This is Andy replying for my father.  Sorry about that.


>
> To rebuild your locate database, just run
> /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate
>
> It makes finding files much easier.


After rebuilding the locate database I get the following:

[root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# locate libthr
/compat/linux/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so
/compat/linux/lib/libthread_db.so.1
/compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db-1.0.so
/compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db.so.1
/usr/Programs/Wine0.9.61/autolibs/libthr.so.2
/usr/Programs/e-Sword0.9.56/autolibs/libthr.so.2
/usr/lib/libthr.a
/usr/lib/libthr.so
/usr/lib/libthr.so.2
/usr/lib/libthr_p.a
/usr/lib/libthread_db.a
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.2
/usr/lib/libthread_db_p.a
/usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1
/usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1
/usr/ports/devel/pwlib/files/patch-src_ptlib_unix_tlibthrd.cxx
/usr/share/man/cat3/libthr.3.gz
/usr/share/man/man3/libthr.3.gz

However, after running

ldconfig -r | grep libthr

I get:

[root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# ldconfig -r | grep libthr
        623:-lthr.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1
        624:-lthread_db.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1

With so many hits on libthr from locate, why is ldconfig only finding these
two instances in /usr/local/lib/compat?  Aren't these for linux
compatibility?




> If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to
> upgrade to 7.x
>

I hope it doesn't come to that.

Andy (for Bob)
From tajudd at gmail.com  Sat May  2 01:32:53 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Sat May  2 01:33:00 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>

I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the
WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else.



What drivers did you use?  Any other drivers available on the manufacturer
website?


If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for
the recent project evil versions.


--TJ
From onemda at gmail.com  Sat May  2 01:52:43 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sat May  2 01:52:50 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/2/09, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>>> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a
>>>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see
>>>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages:
>>>>
>>>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:";
>>>> throttling interrupt source
>>>>
>>>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop.
>>>>
>>>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling
>>>>
>>>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling
>>>>
>>>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support
>>>> polling.
>>>> Or I've got the syntax wrong.
>>>
>>> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to
>>> see if it is possible).
>>>
>>>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9
>>>>
>>>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++
>>>>
>>>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE
>>>>
>>>> Any way I can get this thing working?
>>>
>>> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if
>>> possible).
>>
>> This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no
>> reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for
>> this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac
>> and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am
>> I looking in the right place?
>
> msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default
> on CURRENT (dunno about 7):
> hint.hdac.%d.msi=1
>
> You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0.
> Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right
> line(s)
> in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8)
>
> Dunno if that will work .... (never tried)

Tried, doesnt work. Polling could be enabled if miniport driver for your
card supports it, look output of sysctl dev.ndis.0

-- 
Paul
From amvandemore at gmail.com  Sat May  2 03:18:34 2009
From: amvandemore at gmail.com (Adam Vande More)
Date: Sat May  2 03:21:33 2009
Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com>

Duane wrote:
> I have a fairly new install of 6.4, done over the 'net, on this old
> Micron full tower dual PPro-180. The SMP kernel was automagically
> installed:
>
> # uname -a
> FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed
> Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008
> root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  i386
>
> Performance was *rather* sluggish so I tried to ascertain if both
> processors were running:
>
> # dmesg | grep cpu
> cpu0 on motherboard
>
> Q1. Is there a better way to establish how many processors are running?
>
> Q2. Do I need to specify, say in rc.conf, that I *want* SMP to be enabled?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>   
top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu 
the process is running on.  IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work, 
and ACPI didn't work on my MB until 7.0.  We have different boards, but 
upgrading to 7.2 would probably be a good idea if possibile in your 
situation as both 7.0 and 7.1 saw significant performance increases in 
certain areas.

also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu # for 
7.x(not sure on 6 anymore).
From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Sat May  2 03:43:46 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Sat May  2 03:43:52 2009
Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> wrote:

> top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu the
> process is running on. ?IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work, and ACPI
> didn't work on my MB until 7.0.

Using the ACPI boot option doesn't seem to change the cpu situation. I
still get only cpu0 grepping dmesg.

> also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu #

This gives me '1'.

Thanks,

-- 
Duane
From till.plewe at gmail.com  Sat May  2 04:06:10 2009
From: till.plewe at gmail.com (till plewe)
Date: Sat May  2 04:06:17 2009
Subject: cannot mount slices of usbdrive
Message-ID: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com>

I have a  usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot
be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is
recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below).

Any pointers on how to recover the content of the disk would be appreciated.
I was thinking of building a new disk label from the fdisk output but
am not sure
that I understand what is involved properly (where does the in-core disklabel
fdisk uses come from?)

1) # mount /dev/da1s1 /mnt1
mount: /dev/da1s1 : No such file or directory
-------------------------------------
2) # dmesg
da1 at umass-sim2 bus 2 target 0 lun 0
da1: <SAMSUNG HD753LJ > Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da1: 40.000MB/s transfers
da1: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 91201C)
----------------------------------------
3) # bsdlabel /dev/da1
# /dev/da1:
8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 1465149152       16    unused        0     0
  c: 1465149168        0    unused        0     0         # "raw"
part, don't edit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
4) # fdisk /dev/da1
******* Working on device /dev/da1 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=91201 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=91201 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 63, size 377479242 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
        end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 377479305, size 377479305 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
        end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 754958610, size 377479305 (184316 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
        end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 1132437915, size 332706150 (162454 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
        end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63

5) # fdisk /dev/da1s1
fdisk: unable to get correct path for /dev/da1s1: No such file or directory
From awd at awdcomp.net  Sat May  2 04:57:57 2009
From: awd at awdcomp.net (Andrew)
Date: Sat May  2 04:58:04 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
Message-ID: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>

Hi All,

I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing 
lists as possible?

TIA
cya
Andrew
From tajudd at gmail.com  Sat May  2 04:59:53 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Sat May  2 05:00:00 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905012159q6ba97001yd19c60b53ba53ea7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Andrew <awd@awdcomp.net> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists
> as possible?
>
> TIA
> cya
> Andrew
>

posting to mailing lists with the address
putting the email address in blogs, wiki's and mailing lists, on the web,
uncensored

robots pick them up.
From guru at unixarea.de  Sat May  2 05:03:24 2009
From: guru at unixarea.de (Matthias Apitz)
Date: Sat May  2 05:03:32 2009
Subject: cannot mount slices of usbdrive
In-Reply-To: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de>

El d?a Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 01:06:09PM +0900, till plewe escribi?:

> I have a  usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot
> be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is
> recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below).
...

I have had the same problem: booting CURRENT from an USB key and wanting
to get access to the SSD partitions created with RELENG_7 kernel in the
EeePC. I've found no way to do and labeled the SSD from scratch (had
even to overwrite the 1st blocks with dd(1) to make fdisk(1M) create
partitions there).

In your case: boot a RELENG_7 rescue CD, mount the usbdrive and backup
the data (via LAN) to some other place.

	matthias

-- 
Matthias Apitz
Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH
Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
e <matthias.apitz@oclc.org> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/
People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.
From till.plewe at gmail.com  Sat May  2 05:28:13 2009
From: till.plewe at gmail.com (till plewe)
Date: Sat May  2 05:28:20 2009
Subject: cannot mount slices of usbdrive
In-Reply-To: <20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de>
References: <8be8566f0905012106ld6509aeh754383d7b4b1c646@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090502050319.GB2871@rebelion.Sisis.de>
Message-ID: <8be8566f0905012228y5aa3589bq4bf41af82a5d7dd7@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/2/09, Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
> El d?a Saturday, May 02, 2009 a las 01:06:09PM +0900, till plewe escribi?:
>
>> I have a  usbdrive which was used on FreeBSD 6 or 7 but cannot
>> be mounted now (on CURRENT with generic kernel). The drive is
>> recognized but the individual slices do not seem to exist (see below).
> ...
>
> I have had the same problem: booting CURRENT from an USB key and wanting
> to get access to the SSD partitions created with RELENG_7 kernel in the
> EeePC. I've found no way to do and labeled the SSD from scratch (had
> even to overwrite the 1st blocks with dd(1) to make fdisk(1M) create
> partitions there).
>
> In your case: boot a RELENG_7 rescue CD, mount the usbdrive and backup
> the data (via LAN) to some other place.
>
> 	matthias
>

Thanks. That sounds much more reasonable than what I was planning to do.
I don't know why I wasn't thinking of the rescue CDs (most likely
since I did not
have to use them before).
I'll give it a try once I find a big enough backup disk.

- Till


> --
> Matthias Apitz
> Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH
> Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
> t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
> e <matthias.apitz@oclc.org> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/
> People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use
> FreeBSD.
>
From frederique at isafeelin.org  Sat May  2 09:15:34 2009
From: frederique at isafeelin.org (Frederique Rijsdijk)
Date: Sat May  2 09:15:41 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
Message-ID: <49FC0F2E.7040409@isafeelin.org>

Andrew wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing 
> lists as possible?
> 

I'd be happy to put your e-mail address in the source code of some sites 
that I run?


-- F
From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Sat May  2 09:20:42 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Sat May  2 09:21:11 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a142e750905011852p30281dadtb83c1b31dddd8c45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FC1067.1090808@onetel.com>

Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 5/2/09, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/1/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>>>> On 4/29/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54Gv5 wireless pccard working. It has a
>>>>> Marvell 8335 chip. I've created a module with ndisgen and I can see
>>>>> ndis0. When I up it with ifconfig I immediately get repeated messages:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apr 28 23:23:19 pcbsd kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq11:";
>>>>> throttling interrupt source
>>>>>
>>>>> As soon as I down the interface the messages stop.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also tried starting ndis0 with polling
>>>>>
>>>>> # ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.1.20 polling
>>>>>
>>>>> but still get the messages. I guess this driver doesn't support
>>>>> polling.
>>>>> Or I've got the syntax wrong.
>>>> That command is not currently efective at all for ndisX(I yet have to
>>>> see if it is possible).
>>>>
>>>>> According to vmstat -i irq11 is used by cbb0 and pcm0. ndis0 is on irq9
>>>>>
>>>>> irq9: cbb1 ndis0++
>>>>>
>>>>> This is on PCBSD 7.1 which is FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE
>>>>>
>>>>> Any way I can get this thing working?
>>>> Try yo disable cbbX if you dont use it or enable MSI for pcm0 (if
>>>> possible).
>>> This is a pcmcia card in a laptop so cbb is needed :( There is no
>>> reference to msi in the pcm man page so I guess it is not available for
>>> this system. (Paul I saw a post from you on multimedia about msi in hdac
>>> and sure enough there is a reference to msi in snd_hda(4) man page). Am
>>> I looking in the right place?
>> msi for snd_hda(if that is your sound driver) should be enabled by default
>> on CURRENT (dunno about 7):
>> hint.hdac.%d.msi=1

my driver is snd_t4dwave and msi is not mentioned in the man page. Does 
that mean it's not available?

>>
>> You could try to use different dev.ndis.0.InterruptNumber for ndis0.
>> Changing it via sysctl is not supported, you will need to modify right
>> line(s)
>> in inf file, or in .h file generated with ndiscvt(1) via ndisgen(8)
>>
>> Dunno if that will work .... (never tried)
> 
> Tried, doesnt work. Polling could be enabled if miniport driver for your
> card supports it, look output of sysctl dev.ndis.0

no reference to polling in sysctl dev.ndis
> 

hmm not looking good so far

Chris
From frederique at isafeelin.org  Sat May  2 09:22:45 2009
From: frederique at isafeelin.org (Frederique Rijsdijk)
Date: Sat May  2 09:23:12 2009
Subject: Poor ZFS performance
In-Reply-To: <e2fbd2a10905011639x475c1fbex92508493449bff51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2fbd2a10905011639x475c1fbex92508493449bff51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org>

nf wrote:
> 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec)

That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll 
go up to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB).

> CPU:  0.4% user,  0.0% nice, 14.3% system,  4.5% interrupt, 80.8% idle
> Mem: 1950M Active, 868M Inact, 537M Wired, 238M Cache, 363M Buf, 87M Free
> Swap: 1024M Total, 101M Used, 923M Free, 9% Inuse
> 
>   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>  8402 nf          1  50    0  4604K   788K zio->i 0   0:03  8.59% dd

Could you show top -S ?


-- Frederique
From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Sat May  2 09:30:17 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Sat May  2 09:30:38 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FC12A6.40305@onetel.com>

Tim Judd wrote:
> I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the
> WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else.
> 
> 
> 
> What drivers did you use?  Any other drivers available on the manufacturer
> website?
> 
> 
> If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for
> the recent project evil versions.
> 
> 
> --TJ
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> 
I believe I read about XP being preferred as well.

I downloaded the latest drivers zip file from the linksys website, it 
includes 3 drivers for this chipset, a generic one, one for NT and one 
for XP. I used the XP one. I might try the others just in case but I am 
away for afew days so won't be able to have another look till next week.

Chris
From freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl  Sat May  2 12:50:23 2009
From: freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl (Jeroen Hofstee)
Date: Sat May  2 12:50:30 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www projects
Message-ID: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>

I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and 
extract a lists of well known
web projects (yoomla, wordpress etc), extract the installed version 
number and match it against
a database of known vulnerabilities. Similiar to portaudit, but then for 
the standard scripts users
install themselves. I was unable to find such a program in the ports.

Does such an utilities exists for FreeBSD ?

Jeroen


From dak.col at gmail.com  Sat May  2 13:43:12 2009
From: dak.col at gmail.com (Diego F. Arias R.)
Date: Sat May  2 13:43:20 2009
Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Duane <duane@cheekymonkey.us> wrote:
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> top should display a C column with a number that represents which cpu the
>> process is running on. ?IIRC, ACPI must be enabled for SMP to work, and ACPI
>> didn't work on my MB until 7.0.
>
> Using the ACPI boot option doesn't seem to change the cpu situation. I
> still get only cpu0 grepping dmesg.
>
>> also "sysctl -a |grep kern.smp.cpus" should return your cpu #
>
> This gives me '1'.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Duane
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>

Are you running generic or custom kernel?

-- 
mmm, interesante.....
From jalmberg at identry.com  Sat May  2 14:03:51 2009
From: jalmberg at identry.com (John Almberg)
Date: Sat May  2 14:03:58 2009
Subject: [pure-ftpd] Security Scan question
In-Reply-To: <20090502125055.GB15913@pureftpd.org>
References: <sfid-H20090501-165528-+054.95-1@osbf.c9x.org>
	<20090501085510.18a830e9@prokofiev.trutwins.homeip.net>
	<20090502125055.GB15913@pureftpd.org>
Message-ID: <CD48054D-81EF-4D34-8D03-2D11F6E657FD@identry.com>


On May 2, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Frank Denis wrote:

>   Hello Josh,
>
> Le Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:55:10AM -0500, Josh Trutwin ecrivait :
>> Because I programmed a custom cart solution for one of my customers,
>> their merchant account is doing a monthly server scan to check for
>> known vulnerabilities.
>
>   Great.

I've had to endure these scans, myself, and I must say that they  
helped a lot. The scans are pretty thorough and they made me re-think  
some things I was doing... particularly limiting access to ports that  
I thought 'needed' to be open, but actually just needed to be open to  
a small number of outside addresses. Thank goodness for PF... would  
hate to try to pass one of those scans without a flexible firewall.

-- John
From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Sat May  2 16:52:03 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Sat May  2 16:52:09 2009
Subject: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905011618x50c9466fpf6758c8ba3bee2b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905011645s699e243bgb0a335377aef49e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FBBB70.6090902@gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905012043w3caff478y535326032e5f32ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<3b93bd110905020619o74760f2fo5175f8e2daba0592@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905020952g2c501248t2110c3571de0da37@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Diego F. Arias R. <dak.col@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you running generic or custom kernel?

Generic SMP:

# uname -a
FreeBSD poobah.legomenon.org 6.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE #0: Wed
Nov 26 12:11:16 UTC 2008
root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  i386


-- 
Duane
From jeffrey at goldmark.org  Sat May  2 19:16:34 2009
From: jeffrey at goldmark.org (Jeffrey Goldberg)
Date: Sat May  2 19:16:41 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
Message-ID: <7735FCD6-4F23-42FB-99D7-FCE35F262353@goldmark.org>

On May 1, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Andrew wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing  
> lists as possible?

The single fastest way is to post to Usenet using that address as a  
"from" address.  You should start seeing lots of spam within 48 hours  
of that.

Then once you start getting spam to that address use the "unsubscribe"  
mechanisms in the spam.  That not only confirms that the address works  
and is read by a human, but that it is read by a gullible human.  This  
will make that address a high value spam address.

Cheers,

-j

From jimmiejaz at gmail.com  Sat May  2 19:18:21 2009
From: jimmiejaz at gmail.com (Jimmie James)
Date: Sat May  2 19:18:28 2009
Subject: dmesg: sysctl kern.msgbuf Cannot allocate memory
Message-ID: <49FC9C6D.6090208@gmail.com>

After searching google and various man pages, I'm not finding out what 
it actually means, anyone care to shed some light?

During boot:
dmesg: sysctl kern.msgbuf Cannot allocate memory

#sysctl -a |grep msgbuf
kern.msgbuf_clear: 0
kern.msgbuf:
kern.consmsgbuf_size: 8192
security.bsd.unprivileged_read_msgbuf: 1

-- 
Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met.

From af.gourmet at videotron.ca  Sat May  2 19:45:11 2009
From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ)
Date: Sat May  2 19:45:20 2009
Subject: lost+found
Message-ID: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>

A couple of days ago I had minor glitch as my FreeBSD box on my local
intranet had an unexpected shutdown.
When I fsck'd on reboot I was left with a few lost+found directories
with #999999 files. Most appeared inconsequential and could be deleted.
But there is one /tmp/lost+found that puzzles me. There are 3
subdirectories that act a little strangely.
[~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456
[/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls
[/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd ..
[/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory)
[~]# ls (this returns the listing of the contents of /root

Whoops! What is going on? I'd like to delete this /tmp/lost+found/
directory but, being very wary, I don't want to take the risk (probably
none) to delete it since there is no indication that this is a symbolic
link and might delte the actual /root/ directory withoug getting some
information about this occurrence.
TIA.


-- 
Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme."
-------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com
   http://www.ptahhotep.com
   http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php

From jimmiejaz at gmail.com  Sat May  2 19:46:16 2009
From: jimmiejaz at gmail.com (Jimmie James)
Date: Sat May  2 19:46:24 2009
Subject: Repeatable X lockups
Message-ID: <49FCA302.4020606@gmail.com>

When using the xv output driver for vlc or mplayer, X will lockup, crash 
instantly, trashing the screen and forcing a reboot
Image of screen corruption: 
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/xcrash.jpg

This just started manifesting in the past week or so.

HW/SW details
All that's printed to Xorg.0.log
(II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450
Memory heap 0x2867e260:
   Offset:0002a000, Size:00100000, F.

Free list:
  FREE Offset:0002a000, Size:00100000, F.
End of memory blocks

pciconf -lv
vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0:     class=0x030000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x25828086 
rev=0x04 hdr=0x00
     vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
     device     = '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device'
     class      = display
     subclass   = VGA
vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1:     class=0x038000 card=0x25821043 chip=0x27828086 
rev=0x04 hdr=0x00
     vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
     device     = '82915G Graphics device: 82915G/GV/910GL Express 
Chipset Family'
     class      = display


display bits from dmesg:
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x6800-0x6807 mem 
0xcfd80000-0xcfdfffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xcfe80000-0xcfebffff at 
device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: <Intel 82915G (915G GMCH) SVGA controller> on vgapci0
drm0: <Intel i915G> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
vgapci1: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 
2.1 on pci0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
drm0: <Intel i915G> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730
drm0: [ITHREAD]


dmesg:
Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 21 22:34:18 EDT 2009
     jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3192.02-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
 
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
   Features2=0x441d<SSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,CNXT-ID,xTPR>
   AMD Features=0x100000<NX>
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1065091072 (1015 MB)
avail memory = 1032073216 (984 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <A M I  OEMAPIC >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: <A M I OEMXSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3f700000 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x6800-0x6807 mem 
0xcfd80000-0xcfdfffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xcfe80000-0xcfebffff at 
device 2.0 on pci0
agp0: <Intel 82915G (915G GMCH) SVGA controller> on vgapci0
agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory
agp0: aperture size is 256M
drm0: <Intel i915G> on vgapci0
vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster
info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB
info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730
vgapci1: <VGA-compatible display> mem 0xcfe00000-0xcfe7ffff at device 
2.1 on pci0
hdac0: <Intel 82801F High Definition Audio Controller> mem 
0xcfef8000-0xcfefbfff irq 16 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090316_0130
hdac0: [ITHREAD]
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.1 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
uhci0: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A> port 
0x7000-0x701f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B> port 
0x7400-0x741f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B> on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C> port 
0x7800-0x781f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
usb2: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C> on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D> port 
0x8000-0x801f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci3: [ITHREAD]
usb3: <Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D> on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: <Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller> mem 
0xcfeffc00-0xcfefffff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: <Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
fxp0: <Intel 82562EZ (ICH6)> port 0xa000-0xa03f mem 
0xcfffe000-0xcfffefff irq 20 at device 8.0 on pci1
miibus0: <MII bus> on fxp0
inphy0: <i82562ET 10/100 media interface> PHY 1 on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:11:d8:11:b7:4e
fxp0: [ITHREAD]
rl0: <Accton MPX 5030/5038 10/100BaseTX> port 0xa400-0xa4ff mem 
0xcffff800-0xcffff8ff irq 22 at device 10.0 on pci1
miibus1: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> PHY 0 on miibus1
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:29:51:c7:61
rl0: [ITHREAD]
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xa800-0xa87f mem 
0xcffffc00-0xcffffc7f irq 21 at device 11.0 on pci1
miibus2: <MII bus> on xl0
ukphy0: <Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface> PHY 24 on miibus2
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:04:75:c7:27:da
xl0: [ITHREAD]
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH6 UDMA100 controller> port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: <Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller> port 
0x9800-0x9807,0x9400-0x9403,0x9000-0x9007,0x8800-0x8803,0x8400-0x840f 
irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
atapci1: [ITHREAD]
ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ichsmb0: <Intel 82801FB (ICH6) SMBus controller> port 0x400-0x41f irq 19 
at device 31.3 on pci0
ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ichsmb0: [ITHREAD]
smbus0: <System Management Bus> on ichsmb0
smb0: <SMBus generic I/O> on smbus0
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on 
acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio0: [FILTER]
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xca800-0xcafff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ppc0: [ITHREAD]
ukbd0: <Microsoft Natural\M-. Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, class 0/0, rev 
2.00/1.73, addr 2> on uhub0
kbd2 at ukbd0
uhid0: <Microsoft Natural\M-. Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, class 0/0, rev 
2.00/1.73, addr 2> on uhub0
ums0: <B16_b_02 USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse, class 0/0, rev 2.00/98.02, addr 
3> on uhub0
ums0: 8 buttons and Z dir.
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert enabled, nat loadable, rule-based 
forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 5 
packets/entry by default
ad0: 114473MB <WDC WD1200BB-00CAA0 16.06V16> at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: DVDROM <SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-816B/H000> at ata0-slave UDMA33
hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC880
pcm0: <HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #0 Digital> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm1: <HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm2: <HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #2 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm3: <HDA Realtek ALC880 PCM #3 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 0 0 0 0 0
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): Medium not present
(probe0:ata0:0:1:0): Unretryable error
cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
cd0: <SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-816B H000> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
fxp0: link state changed to UP
xl0: link state changed to UP
rl0: link state changed to UP
rl0: link state changed to DOWN
rl0: link state changed to UP
drm0: [ITHREAD]

Xorg.0.log


X.Org X Server 1.6.0
Release Date: 2009-2-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE i386
Current Operating System: FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 7.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 
7.2-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Mar 21 22:34:18 EDT 2009 
jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386
Build Date: 06 April 2009  01:21:41AM

         Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
         to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
         (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat May  2 14:28:43 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "i810"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AIGLX" "true"
(**) Option "AllowEmptyInput" "OFF"
(**) Option "AutoAddDevices" "OFF"
(**) Not automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(**) FontPath set to:
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/jmk,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
         /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
         built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Loader magic: 0x6a0
(II) Module ABI versions:
         X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
         X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
         X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
         X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated 
Graphics Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfd80000/524288, 
0xd0000000/268435456, 0xcfe80000/262144, I/O @ 0x00006800/8, BIOS @ 
0x????????/65536
(--) PCI: (0@0:2:1) Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated Graphics 
Controller rev 4, Mem @ 0xcfe00000/524288
(II) System resource ranges:
         [0] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
         [1] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
         [2] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
         [3] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
         [4] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded by default.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(**) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.1.0
         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         Module class: X.Org Server Extension
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         Module class: X.Org Server Extension
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.13.0
         Module class: X.Org Server Extension
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "intel"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
(II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.6.3
         Module class: X.Org Video Driver
         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so
(II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.4.0
         Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
         ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
(II) LoadModule: "kbd"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.3.2
         Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
         ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
(II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
         i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
         E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ,
         965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
         Mobile Intel<C2><AE> GM45 Express Chipset,
         Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00@00:02:0
(II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call:
         [0] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
         [1] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
         [2] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
         [3] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
         [4] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) resource ranges after probing:
         [0] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
         [1] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
         [2] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
         [3] 0   0       0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B]
         [4] 0   0       0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B]
         [5] 0   0       0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B]
         [6] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
         [7] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
         [8] 0   0       0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
         [9] 0   0       0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Loading sub module "vgahw"
(II) LoadModule: "vgahw"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so
(II) Module vgahw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 0.1.0
         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(**) intel(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16
(==) intel(0): RGB weight 565
(==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 915G
(--) intel(0): Chipset: "915G"
(--) intel(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xD0000000
(--) intel(0): IO registers at addr 0xCFD80000
(==) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration
(II) intel(0): 2 display pipes available.
(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
(II) LoadModule: "ddc"
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Loading sub module "i2c"
(II) LoadModule: "i2c"
(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) intel(0): Output VGA using monitor section monitor0
(==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
(II) intel(0): Resizable framebuffer: not available (1 3)
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" initialized.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:E-EDID segment register" registered 
at address 0x60.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" registered at address 0xA0.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:ddc2" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C device "CRTDDC_A:E-EDID segment register" removed.
(II) intel(0): I2C bus "CRTDDC_A" removed.
(II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450
(II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for horizontal sync
(II) intel(0): Using EDID range info for vertical refresh
(II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0  175.50  1600 1664 1856 2160 
1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 
605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 
603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 481 
484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 489 
492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 483 
486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752 800  480 490 
492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   35.50  720 738 846 900  400 421 
423 449 -hsync -vsync (39.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 900  400 412 
414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688 
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312  768 
769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328  768 
771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 
771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   44.90  1024 1032 1208 1264  768 
768 772 817 interlace +hsync +vsync (35.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x0.0   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624 625 
628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600 601 
604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600 637 
643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x0.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600  864 
865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   36.00  640 696 752 832  480 481 
484 509 -hsync -vsync (43.3 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   56.25  800 832 896 1048  600 601 
604 631 +hsync +vsync (53.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   94.50  1024 1072 1168 1376  768 
769 772 808 +hsync +vsync (68.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x0.0  108.00  1280 1376 1488 1800  960 
961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688 
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0  175.50  1600 1664 1856 2160 
1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (81.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): EDID vendor "NEC", prod id 17450
(II) intel(0): Output VGA connected
(II) intel(0): Using exact sizes for initial modes
(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1600x1200
(==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
(II) intel(0): detected 256 kB GTT.
(II) intel(0): detected 7932 kB stolen memory.
(==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x83e
(==) intel(0): Will not try to enable page flipping
(==) intel(0): Triple buffering disabled
(==) intel(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) intel(0): Display dimensions: (320, 240) mm
(**) intel(0): DPI set to (127, 169)
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
         ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "exa"
(II) LoadModule: "exa"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libexa.so
(II) Module exa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
         compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.4.0
         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) intel(0): Comparing regs from server start up to After PreInit
(II) do I need RAC?  No, I don't.
(II) resource ranges after preInit:
         [0] -1  0       0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
         [1] -1  0       0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
         [2] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
         [3] 0   0       0x000a0000 - 0x000affff (0x10000) MS[B](OprD)
         [4] 0   0       0x000b0000 - 0x000b7fff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD)
         [5] 0   0       0x000b8000 - 0x000bffff (0x8000) MS[B](OprD)
         [6] -1  0       0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
         [7] -1  0       0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
         [8] 0   0       0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B](OprU)
         [9] 0   0       0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B](OprU)
(II) intel(0): Kernel reported 241152 total, 0 used
(II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 964608 kB available
(WW) intel(0): DRI2 requires UXA
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 9
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0
(II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.2
(II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded.
(II) intel(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables.
(II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver
(II) intel(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) intel(0): X context handle = 0x1
(II) intel(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(**) intel(0): Framebuffer compression disabled
(**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
(==) intel(0): VideoRam: 262144 KB
(II) intel(0): Attempting memory allocation with tiled buffers.
(II) intel(0): Tiled allocation successful.
(II) intel(0): [drm] Registers = 0xcfd80000
(II) intel(0): [drm] ring buffer = 0xd0000000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped front buffer at 0xd0800000, handle = 0xd0800000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped back buffer at 0xd2800000, handle = 0xd2800000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped depth buffer at 0xd3000000, handle = 0xd3000000
(II) intel(0): [drm] mapped classic textures at 0xd3800000, handle = 
0xd3800000
(II) intel(0): [drm] Initialized kernel agp heap manager, 33554432
(II) intel(0): [dri] visual configs initialized
(II) intel(0): Page Flipping disabled
(II) intel(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp->IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp->PIOOffset is 
0x0000
(==) intel(0): Write-combining range (0xa0000,0x10000) was already clear
(II) EXA(0): Offscreen pixmap area of 19660800 bytes
(II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
(II)         Solid
(II)         Copy
(II)         Composite (RENDER acceleration)
(==) intel(0): Backing store disabled
(==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor
(II) intel(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 1 at 0x00800000 (pgoffset 2048)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 2 at 0x01000000 (pgoffset 4096)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 3 at 0x02800000 (pgoffset 10240)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 4 at 0x03000000 (pgoffset 12288)
(II) intel(0): xf86BindGARTMemory: bind key 5 at 0x03800000 (pgoffset 14336)
(II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout:
(II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00029fff: HW cursors (40 kB, 
0x000000003f820000 physical
)
(II) intel(0): 0x0002a000-0x00129fff: fake bufmgr (1024 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x0012a000-0x0012afff: overlay registers (4 kB, 
0x000000003f92a000 physical
)
(II) intel(0): 0x007bf000:            end of stolen memory
(II) intel(0): 0x00800000-0x00ffffff: front buffer (8192 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x01000000-0x022bffff: exa offscreen (19200 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x02800000-0x02ffffff: back buffer (8192 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x03000000-0x037fffff: depth buffer (8192 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x03800000-0x057fffff: classic textures (32768 kB)
(II) intel(0): 0x10000000:            end of aperture
(II) intel(0): Output configuration:
(II) intel(0):   Pipe A is on
(II) intel(0):   Display plane A is now enabled and connected to pipe A.
(II) intel(0):   Pipe B is off
(II) intel(0):   Display plane B is now disabled and connected to pipe B.
(II) intel(0):   Output VGA is connected to pipe A
(II) intel(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 16
(II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled 
message.
(II) intel(0): DPMS enabled
(==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder disabled
(II) intel(0): Set up textured video
(II) intel(0): Set up overlay video
(II) intel(0): direct rendering: XF86DRI Enabled
(--) RandR disabled
(II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
(II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
(II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI2 capable
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci:0000:00:02.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 10, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 10
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci:0000:00:02.0
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and GLX_MESA_swap_control
(II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_texture_from_pixmap with driver support
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/local/lib/dri/i915_dri.so
(II) GLX: Initialized DRI GL provider for screen 0
(II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 306 x 230
(**) Option "Protocol" "AUTO"
(**) Mouse1: Device: "/dev/sysmouse"
(**) Mouse1: Protocol: "AUTO"
(**) Option "CorePointer"
(**) Mouse1: always reports core events
(**) Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
(**) Option "Buttons" "10"
(**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
(**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
(**) Mouse1: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 4 5"
(**) Mouse1: Buttons: 10
(**) Mouse1: Sensitivity: 1
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse1" (type: MOUSE)
(**) Mouse1: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) Mouse1: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00
(**) Mouse1: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms
(**) Mouse1: (accel) set acceleration profile 0
(II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0
(II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard1: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Keyboard1: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Keyboard1: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
(**) Keyboard1: XkbModel: "pc105"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) Keyboard1: XkbLayout: "us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard1: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard1" (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device Natural? Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
(II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard
(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)
exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty!


xorg.conf:
Section "ServerLayout"
         Identifier     "Simple Layout"
         Screen         "Screen 1" 0 0
         InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
         InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
         Option          "AllowEmptyInput" "OFF"
         Option          "AutoAddDevices" "OFF"
EndSection

Section "Files"
#       RgbPath      "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" #*REMOVED* UPDATING 
20090123:
         ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/jmk"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/terminus-font"
         FontPath     "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AIGLX" "true"
EndSection

Section "Module"
         Load  "GLcore"
         Load  "glx"
         Load  "dri"
         Load  "drm"
         Load  "vbe"
        Load  "int10"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
         Identifier  "Keyboard1"
         Driver      "kbd"
         Option      "pc101"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
         Identifier  "Mouse1"
         Driver      "mouse"
         Option      "Protocol" "AUTO"
         Option      "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
         Option      "Buttons" "10"
         Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
         Option      "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8 9 10 4 5"
         Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
         Identifier   "monitor0"
EndSection

Section "Device"

         Identifier  "i810"
         Driver      "intel"
         VendorName  "Intel"
         BoardName   "82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics 
Controller"
         BusID       "PCI:0:2:0"

EndSection

Section "Screen"
         Identifier "Screen 1"
         Device     "i810"
         Monitor    "monitor0"
         DefaultDepth     16
         Subsection "Display"
                Modes     "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
         Depth 16
         EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
         Mode         0666
EndSection

xrandr:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1600
VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
306mm x 230mm
    1600x1200      65.0*
    1280x1024      75.0
    1280x960       60.0
    1152x864       75.0
    1024x768       85.0     75.0     70.1     60.0     43.5
    832x624        74.6
    800x600        85.1     72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2
    640x480        85.0     75.0     72.8     66.7     59.9
    720x400        87.8     70.1



-- 
Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met.

From freebsd at edvax.de  Sat May  2 21:06:36 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Sat May  2 21:06:43 2009
Subject: lost+found
In-Reply-To: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>
References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>
Message-ID: <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
> [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456
> [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls

Okay, it's empty.



> [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd ..

Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456
to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed?



> [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory)

Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And
why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory?

> [~]# ls (this returns the listing of the contents of /root

Of course, because CWD is ~ now.



> Whoops! What is going on? I'd like to delete this /tmp/lost+found/
> directory but, being very wary, I don't want to take the risk (probably
> none) to delete it since there is no indication that this is a symbolic
> link and might delte the actual /root/ directory withoug getting some
> information about this occurrence.

The best idea would be to copy the content of /root into
another directory first, then performing the rm operation,
and afterwards, if something went wrong, restore /root from
this backup copy.




Very strange... Just to be sure, are you SURE you reported
the paths (in the prompt) and the commands correctly?



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From dan at langille.org  Sat May  2 23:10:26 2009
From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille)
Date: Sat May  2 23:10:33 2009
Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-05-02
Message-ID: <20090502231008.345D550A9F@nyi.unixathome.org>

The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
archives <http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists> 
and/or The FreeBSD Diary <http://www.freebsddiary.org/>. 

RECENT ARTICLES:

2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers
     If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. 
     http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2

29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN
     If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. 
     http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2

27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority
     How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates
     http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2

27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running
     Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office 
     http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2

5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman
     Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness 
     http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2

30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD
     an HDD failed.  gmirror to the rescue. 
     http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2

6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework
     This makes jails easier 
     http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2

24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation
     Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation
     http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2

20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s
     Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD 
     http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2

17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org
     The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors 
     http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2


-- 
Dan Langille
BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference

From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Sun May  3 04:17:49 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Sun May  3 04:17:56 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Andrew <awd@awdcomp.net> wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists
> as possible?

What are your plans for the resultant collection of junque?


-- 
Duane
From fbsd1 at a1poweruser.com  Sun May  3 07:59:47 2009
From: fbsd1 at a1poweruser.com (Fbsd1)
Date: Sun May  3 07:59:54 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
Message-ID: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>

How can i just download the source for sysinstall?
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Sun May  3 08:46:56 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Sun May  3 08:47:03 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
> How can i just download the source for sysinstall?

http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/


-- 
Glen Barber
From tajudd at gmail.com  Sun May  3 08:56:23 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Sun May  3 08:56:30 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905030156i3c299a88s8b21d9698c8e5d1a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
> > How can i just download the source for sysinstall?
>
> http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/
>
>
> --
> Glen Barber
>


Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn?  Isn't cvs the "norm"
whereas svn may be on it's way out?  I could totally be in left field about
that though.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Sun May  3 08:57:54 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Sun May  3 08:58:01 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905030156i3c299a88s8b21d9698c8e5d1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905030156i3c299a88s8b21d9698c8e5d1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905030157ia04487fof5ea699bbf2d861f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn?? Isn't cvs the "norm"
> whereas svn may be on it's way out?? I could totally be in left field about
> that though.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/
>

I'm not aware of SVN being "on it's way out."  Either way, either
source could have been located with a little Google effort.

-- 
Glen Barber
From sonicy at otenet.gr  Sun May  3 09:06:07 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Sun May  3 09:06:14 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905030156i3c299a88s8b21d9698c8e5d1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905030156i3c299a88s8b21d9698c8e5d1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FD5E7A.8030102@otenet.gr>

Tim Judd wrote:
> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> How can i just download the source for sysinstall?
>>>       
>> http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Glen Barber
>>
>>     
>
>
> Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn?  Isn't cvs the "norm"
> whereas svn may be on it's way out?  I could totally be in left field about
> that though.
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/
>   
Actually, it's the other way round: FreeBSD (src repository) switched to
svn from CVS some time ago.
Both your link and Glen's are valid though.  Source may also be
downloaded using csup (although I think the smallest subcollection for
sysinstall would be src-usrsbin and you would definitely get more than
sysinstall with that).
From solskogen at carebears.mine.nu  Sun May  3 11:11:57 2009
From: solskogen at carebears.mine.nu (Christer Solskogen)
Date: Sun May  3 11:12:05 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
Message-ID: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org>

How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE 
while the announce have not?

-- 
chs


From frederique at isafeelin.org  Sun May  3 11:13:26 2009
From: frederique at isafeelin.org (Frederique Rijsdijk)
Date: Sun May  3 11:13:34 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>

Christer Solskogen wrote:
> How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE 
> while the announce have not?
> 

typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.


-- F
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Sun May  3 11:49:08 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Sun May  3 11:49:14 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
	<5e8ad96d0905022117hec3792eg435383ed26235440@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031348030.42699@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>



On Sun, 3 May 2009, Duane wrote:

> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Andrew <awd@awdcomp.net> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing lists
>> as possible?
>
> What are your plans for the resultant collection of junque?

redirect to the president ? ;)
From crankbuster at gmail.com  Sun May  3 11:52:35 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Sun May  3 11:52:41 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
Message-ID: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* Frederique Rijsdijk <frederique@isafeelin.org> [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]:

> typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.

Hmm.  I just installed 7.1 today.  Should I download the new iso and
install fresh, or upgrade?  No real mods or extensive configuration has
been done yet...

Wait for the announcement?

-- 
Cheers
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From crankbuster at gmail.com  Sun May  3 12:03:05 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Sun May  3 12:03:13 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031348030.42699@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
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* Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> [2009-05-03 13:48:13 +0200]:

> redirect to the president ? ;)

Which one?

-- 
Cheers
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From rsmith at xs4all.nl  Sun May  3 12:47:37 2009
From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith)
Date: Sun May  3 12:47:44 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
	<20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
Message-ID: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote:
> * Frederique Rijsdijk <frederique@isafeelin.org> [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]:
> 
> > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.
> 
> Hmm.  I just installed 7.1 today.  Should I download the new iso and
> install fresh, or upgrade?  No real mods or extensive configuration has
> been done yet...

If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you
run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway.

> Wait for the announcement?

No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available.

Roland
-- 
R.F.Smith                                   http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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From ertr1013 at student.uu.se  Sun May  3 13:06:14 2009
From: ertr1013 at student.uu.se (Erik Trulsson)
Date: Sun May  3 13:06:21 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
	<20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
	<20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20090503130557.GA24291@owl.midgard.homeip.net>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 02:47:34PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote:
> > * Frederique Rijsdijk <frederique@isafeelin.org> [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]:
> > 
> > > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.
> > 
> > Hmm.  I just installed 7.1 today.  Should I download the new iso and
> > install fresh, or upgrade?  No real mods or extensive configuration has
> > been done yet...
> 
> If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you
> run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway.
> 
> > Wait for the announcement?
> 
> No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available.

There is no guarantee that those are the final images (although they likely
are.) It has happened before that last-minute problems have been found
resulting in a need for images being replaced by fixed ones before the
announcement went out.


I suggest you wait for the announcement.  I believe the official release
(and accompanying announcement) is planned for tomorrow, so unless some
last-minute problem do pop you should not have to wait all that long.  (And
if there is some last-minute problem it is probably a good idea to wait
until it is fixed.)



-- 
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
ertr1013@student.uu.se
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Sun May  3 13:17:09 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Sun May  3 13:17:18 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 04:46:55AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:

> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 <fbsd1@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
> > How can i just download the source for sysinstall?
> 
> http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/

Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source?

////jerry


> 
> 
> -- 
> Glen Barber
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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From jerrymc at msu.edu  Sun May  3 13:19:00 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Sun May  3 13:19:07 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
	<20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
Message-ID: <20090503131819.GB80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:20:40PM +0700, Old Crankbuster wrote:

> * Frederique Rijsdijk <frederique@isafeelin.org> [2009-05-03 13:13:23 +0200]:
> 
> > typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.
> 
> Hmm.  I just installed 7.1 today.  Should I download the new iso and
> install fresh, or upgrade?  No real mods or extensive configuration has
> been done yet...
> 
> Wait for the announcement?


If you have the time, wait for the announcement and then
download the new one and burn it and do it again.

////jerry

> 
> -- 
> Cheers


From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Sun May  3 13:19:23 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Sun May  3 13:19:31 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source?
>

It would be the binary once the source is compiled, yes.


-- 
Glen Barber
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Sun May  3 13:20:40 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Sun May  3 13:20:46 2009
Subject: source for sysinstall
In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49FD4EE8.3000209@a1poweruser.com>
	<4ad871310905030146n2690c762pba1baf0c47cdaf66@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090503131627.GA80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<4ad871310905030619l7f176a69v6b118ecd79916e76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090503131959.GC80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:19:21AM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:

> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> > Wouldn't that be the binary and not the source?
> >
> 
> It would be the binary once the source is compiled, yes.
> 

Didn't even see the 'svn' at the beginning of the URL.

////jerry


> 
> -- 
> Glen Barber
From andrew at qemg.org  Sun May  3 13:30:49 2009
From: andrew at qemg.org (Andrew Wright)
Date: Sun May  3 13:30:57 2009
Subject: Xdvi with amd64
In-Reply-To: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031030431.1742@qemg.org>


Hello Oliver;

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:

> Is there known issue with the port of Xdvi (/usr/ports/print/xdvi) on
> 6.4 amd64?
>
> I suspect there is a problem with the size of the int/short/long as
> Xdvi detects wrong number of bits in some font files, while these same
> font files are used without problem by other ports and are identical
> to font files generated in x86 system.

Though I am now on 7.1, I was using xdvi on 6.4/amd64 without
noticing any issues.

Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with?  I can tell you
whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1.

Andrew.

From sdpatt2 at gmail.com  Sun May  3 13:55:01 2009
From: sdpatt2 at gmail.com (Dave Patterson)
Date: Sun May  3 13:55:08 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
	<20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
	<20090503124734.GA90473@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <20090503132627.GA10406@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl> [2009-05-03 14:47:34 +0200]:

> If you haven't invested much time in it yet, install 7.2. Because if you
> run into problems with 7.1, that's the first advice you'll get anyway.

Ah.  Downloading now.
 
> No reason not to use them if the ISO images are available.

Thank you.

-- 
Cheers
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From perlcat at windstream.net  Sun May  3 13:57:17 2009
From: perlcat at windstream.net (Tyson Boellstorff)
Date: Sun May  3 13:57:24 2009
Subject: Honey pot email address
In-Reply-To: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
References: <49FBD2CA.6050302@awdcomp.net>
Message-ID: <200905030830.51477.perlcat@windstream.net>

On Friday 01 May 2009 23:57:46 Andrew wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've created a honey pot email address for SPAM.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to get on as many spammers mailing
> lists as possible?
>

Subscribe to anything that promises FREE games or graphical amusements of the 
salacious and binary nature. 

That, or you could tell your upper management that this is a safe email 
address to give out when filling out forms. (Not that they *would* mind 
you -- they prefer to use their company email for that, with predictable 
results.) But I digress.


From ws at au.dyndns.ws  Sun May  3 15:20:31 2009
From: ws at au.dyndns.ws (Wayne Sierke)
Date: Sun May  3 15:20:38 2009
Subject: mysql hiding from top
In-Reply-To: <dbdfb102e213cc2923eb75a56243dac7.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com>
References: <dbdfb102e213cc2923eb75a56243dac7.squirrel@relay.lc-words.com>
Message-ID: <1241363111.8180.21.camel@predator-ii.buffyverse>

On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 18:49 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> hello,
> 
> Today I have finally upgraded my system to 7.1-RELEASE and just noticing
> that mysql process is not being shown via the top command.
> 
>   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
>  1612 root        1  20    0  9212K  6716K pause  2   0:26  0.00% perl5.8.9
>   966 www         1   8    0  8236K  5452K nanslp 2   0:22  0.00% perl5.8.9
>  1594 root        1  20    0  8740K  6220K pause  0   0:12  0.00% perl5.8.9
> 
> However, if you grep processes, you can see it should be displayed in the
> top entries.
> $ ps ax |grep mysql
> 32880  p0- I      0:00.00 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe...
> 32906  p0- S      1:33.72 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld...
> 
> I can live with that but maybe there's some explanation for this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>From the manpage for top(1):
        FreeBSD NOTES
        DISPLAY OF THREADS
               The  '-H'  option will toggle the display of kernel visible thread con-
               texts.  At runtime the 'H' key will toggle this mode.  The  default  is
               OFF.

Should reveal the "missing" thread(s). This was raised by someone else
last November also examining mysqld. Look for a thread titled "top
incorrectly reporting process time".


From crankbuster at gmail.com  Sun May  3 15:32:44 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Sun May  3 15:32:51 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
In-Reply-To: <20090503131819.GB80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
	<20090503112040.GA5485@gecko.davescrunch.net>
	<20090503131819.GB80139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20090503153233.GA14834@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> [2009-05-03 09:18:20 -0400]:
 
> If you have the time, wait for the announcement and then
> download the new one and burn it and do it again.

Hmm.  The new torrent is awfully slooow, and so are the main mirrors
where I am.

Need to get the thing off the ground, though, so I'll take a risk and
start the download now.

Been hosed before, but if it works out, great!

Thanks..

-- 
Cheers

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From radek at ceskedomeny.cz  Sun May  3 17:54:09 2009
From: radek at ceskedomeny.cz (Bc. Radek Krejca)
Date: Sun May  3 17:54:16 2009
Subject: Quagga problem
Message-ID: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz>

Hello,

  starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages
  in my log:

May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file bgp_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count
May  3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6
May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform.

   I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga,
   but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution?

   Thanks

   Radek




From exemys at exemys.com  Sun May  3 18:40:39 2009
From: exemys at exemys.com (Exemys)
Date: Sun May  3 18:40:50 2009
Subject: Ethernet - Internet I/O
Message-ID: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com>

This is a message in multipart MIME format.  Your mail client should not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view this message correctly.

From rsmith at xs4all.nl  Sun May  3 18:45:52 2009
From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith)
Date: Sun May  3 18:46:00 2009
Subject: Quagga problem
In-Reply-To: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz>
References: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz>
Message-ID: <20090503184546.GA4380@slackbox.xs4all.nl>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:27:25PM +0200, Bc. Radek Krejca wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages
>   in my log:
> 
> May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file bgp_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count
> May  3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6
> May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform.
> 
>    I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga,
>    but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution?

It is a bug in quagga, or rather a condition that triggers a built-in
verification macro called assert(3). Normal behavior for this macro is
to terminate the program if the asserted condition fails, as it does here.

It looks if a function that calculates the length of a string gets a
larger value than it can cope with. It is possible that an internal
buffer for a string isn't large enough. In this day and age I would
respectfully call that bad coding.

You should report it to the author(s), sinze they put in this check.
It is possible to disable this bahaviour at compile time, see
assert(3). But this is unwise unless you know what you're doing.

Without diving into the source code, it is impossible to be certain that
this is not a FreeBSD bug. But it looks more like ungracefull handling
of an error condition.

Roland
-- 
R.F.Smith                                   http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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From jwdevel at gmail.com  Sun May  3 19:14:40 2009
From: jwdevel at gmail.com (jw)
Date: Sun May  3 19:14:46 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
Message-ID: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>

Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no
X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above
the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more.

How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the
login prompt gets redisplayed?

-John
From gesbbb at yahoo.com  Sun May  3 19:28:23 2009
From: gesbbb at yahoo.com (Jerry)
Date: Sun May  3 19:28:31 2009
Subject: Ethernet - Internet I/O
In-Reply-To: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com>
References: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com>
Message-ID: <20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio>

On Sun, 3 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300
Exemys <exemys@exemys.com> wrote:

>This is a message in multipart MIME format.  Your mail client should
>not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view
>this message correctly.

What is this all about?


-- 
Jerry
gesbbb@yahoo.com

Good day for business affairs.
Make a pass at that the new file clerk.
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From nightrecon at verizon.net  Sun May  3 19:29:45 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Sun May  3 19:29:53 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 released?
References: <gtju5f$dou$1@ger.gmane.org> <49FD7C53.9060203@isafeelin.org>
Message-ID: <gtkran$nc5$1@ger.gmane.org>

Frederique Rijsdijk wrote:

> Christer Solskogen wrote:
>> How come http://torrents.freebsd.org:8080/ have the isos for 7.2-RELEASE
>> while the announce have not?
>> 
> 
> typicaly the images are uploaded first before the announcements are made.
> 
> 
Then they give a day or two for all the mirrors to propagate.

-Mike




From johndoeismyname at gmail.com  Sun May  3 19:48:17 2009
From: johndoeismyname at gmail.com (gabe g)
Date: Sun May  3 19:48:24 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>

Hey John,
      In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of,
however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells.

clear && logout                 # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell
clear && exit                     # Bourne (sh) Shell

You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for shells
that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should almost
always work.

Sincerely,
Gabriel
From emiel at vandelaar.name  Sun May  3 19:53:15 2009
From: emiel at vandelaar.name (Emiel van de Laar)
Date: Sun May  3 19:53:22 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <847CE7F3-2961-41B9-9A94-2F3520C9F773@vandelaar.name>

On May 3, 2009, at 9:48 PM, gabe g wrote:

> Hey John,
>      In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of,
> however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells.
>
> clear && logout                 # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell
> clear && exit                     # Bourne (sh) Shell
>
> You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for  
> shells
> that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should  
> almost
> always work.

Hello,

zsh has ".zlogout" which gets read/executed when the shell exits. I  
have the
following setup:

~ % cat ~/.zlogout
clear

Perhaps other shells have a similar feature.

Regards,

  - Emiel

From peter at boosten.org  Sun May  3 20:13:52 2009
From: peter at boosten.org (Peter Boosten)
Date: Sun May  3 20:14:00 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0593A9C9-1B4A-44C1-BC9B-7BA335B2C5B6@boosten.org>


On 3 mei 2009, at 21:48, gabe g wrote:

> Hey John,
>      In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of,
> however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells.
>
> clear && logout                 # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell
> clear && exit                     # Bourne (sh) Shell
>
> You may have to try similar commands (specific for that shell) for  
> shells
> that are not Bourne-derived, but one of these two commands should  
> almost
> always work.
>

clear > /etc/issue

Peter
-- 
http://www.boosten.org
From jonc at chen.org.nz  Sun May  3 20:40:20 2009
From: jonc at chen.org.nz (Jonathan Chen)
Date: Sun May  3 20:40:27 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090503204018.GB66094@osiris.chen.org.nz>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 11:46:30AM -0700, jw wrote:
> Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no
> X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above
> the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more.
> 
> How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the
> login prompt gets redisplayed?

If you're using tcsh, you can put the following into ~/.logout:

	clear

-- 
Jonathan Chen <jonc@chen.org.nz>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"We laugh in the face of danger, we drop icecubes down the vest of fear"
                                                 - Edmond Blackadder III
From onemda at gmail.com  Sun May  3 20:51:45 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sun May  3 20:51:52 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/3/09, jw <jwdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
> Currently, if I log in, do some work, then log out (from plain TTY, no
> X/SSH/etc), the output of my previous session is still readable above
> the new "login: " prompt. One can use scroll lock to view even more.
>
> How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the
> login prompt gets redisplayed?

My /etc/csh.logout and /etc/csh.login contains:

echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C

For other shells it's similar.
-- 
Paul
From jwdevel at gmail.com  Sun May  3 21:22:18 2009
From: jwdevel at gmail.com (jw)
Date: Sun May  3 21:22:27 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc6993210905031248r6d7e4ee5vdcf14f6454725fec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fa8771800905031422o40c04d7cv5b07baa5c79c12af@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM, gabe g <johndoeismyname@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey John,
> ????? In order to achieve this, there are two methods that I know of,
> however, they are only tested in the Bourne and Bourne Again shells.
>
> clear && logout???????????????? # Bourne Again (Bash) Shell
> clear && exit???????????????????? # Bourne (sh) Shell
>

I tried this, but I can still scroll back with the scroll lock key.
'clear' seems to just put the prompt at the top of the screen, not get
rid of scroll history...

-John
From jwdevel at gmail.com  Sun May  3 21:29:12 2009
From: jwdevel at gmail.com (jw)
Date: Sun May  3 21:29:20 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C
>

Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C'
That combined with 'clear' does the trick.

However...
Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:" prompt
displays, rather than having each user need to do it themselves?

In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users
regardless of shell, etc.

I haven't seen anything in login(1) or login.conf(5) that allows this
kind of customization, but maybe I missed it...

-John
From freebsd at edvax.de  Sun May  3 22:18:30 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Sun May  3 22:18:44 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090504001822.b30ffb2f.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:46:30 -0700, jw <jwdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do I get it to clear the screen (and the scroll buffer) when the
> login prompt gets redisplayed?

Two options:

a) Clear everything right after login. Put the command "clear"
   in your ~/.login, or /etc/csh.login for all users.

b) Clear everything right after logout, so the new login will
   get a blank screen. Put the command "clear" in your ~/.logout,
   or /etc/csh.logout for all users.

This assumes that you have the standard dialog shell csh. If
you're using bash, you need to modify its respective files,
~/.profile or ~/.bashrc - I don't know, I'm using csh. :-)



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From nehe at telus.net  Sun May  3 22:20:27 2009
From: nehe at telus.net (Jeff Molofee)
Date: Sun May  3 22:20:44 2009
Subject: Apache errors.
In-Reply-To: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org>
References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org>
Message-ID: <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net>

Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it?

Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: 
Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: 
/usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol 
"libintl_bindtextdomain"

From nf at wh3rd.net  Mon May  4 00:07:56 2009
From: nf at wh3rd.net (nf)
Date: Mon May  4 00:08:04 2009
Subject: Poor ZFS performance
In-Reply-To: <49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org>
References: <e2fbd2a10905011639x475c1fbex92508493449bff51@mail.gmail.com> 
	<49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org>
Message-ID: <e2fbd2a10905031707w572f956s53af85cb126ddd6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk
<frederique@isafeelin.org> wrote:
> nf wrote:
>>
>> 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec)
>
> That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll go up
> to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB).
>
> Could you show top -S ?

I will, the next time I experience the issue.

I had already rebooted the box, which immediately alleviated the
issue. I can only presume, at this point, that it seems to have been
related to the 2gb of allocated/active memory shown by top. I had no
memory intensive apps running, merely an idle lighttpd, mysqld, and
rtorrent (which only occupied about 90mb).

Thanks,

Andrew
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Mon May  4 00:37:22 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Mon May  4 00:37:29 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com>
	<fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

jw <jwdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> > echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C
>
> Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C'
> That combined with 'clear' does the trick.
>
> However...
> Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:"
> prompt displays, rather than having each user need to do it
> themselves?
>
> In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users
> regardless of shell, etc.

If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via
configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login
source code, I would try renaming the login binary to
something like login.real, and replacing it with an
executable script containing something like:

  #!/bin/csh
  clear
  vidcontrol -C
  exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"

Granted such a hack will need to be redone any time you do
an installworld.
From cchamb0 at interchange.ubc.ca  Mon May  4 01:26:44 2009
From: cchamb0 at interchange.ubc.ca (Chris Chambers)
Date: Mon May  4 01:26:51 2009
Subject: Broken Partition
Message-ID: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>

Hi,

Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument".

Any ideas?

Chris

From lists at jnielsen.net  Mon May  4 01:41:37 2009
From: lists at jnielsen.net (John Nielsen)
Date: Mon May  4 01:41:44 2009
Subject: Broken Partition
In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <200905032141.35347.lists@jnielsen.net>

On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote:
> Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then
> using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my
> freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not
> find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but
> mount says "broken argument".

When you say "add the space to my freebsd partition" what exactly did you 
do?

What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit environment?

JN
From jeffrey at goldmark.org  Mon May  4 02:00:20 2009
From: jeffrey at goldmark.org (Jeffrey Goldberg)
Date: Mon May  4 02:00:28 2009
Subject: Meta: useless text/plain part [Was: Ethernet - Internet I/O]
In-Reply-To: <20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio>
References: <13c915526491f115459852ed8aadf9d7@www.hostmailing.com>
	<20090503152809.686e5d83@scorpio>
Message-ID: <39ADDCA2-77E6-46CE-BE21-5D976ACA77B4@goldmark.org>

On May 3, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Jerry wrote:

> On Sun, 3 May 2009 16:30:16 -0300
> Exemys <exemys@exemys.com> wrote:
>
>> This is a message in multipart MIME format.  Your mail client should
>> not be displaying this. Consider upgrading your mail client to view
>> this message correctly.
>
> What is this all about?

Exemys' mailer is broken.  Here are the details:

Exemys sent mail that was of type

   multipart/alternative

meaning that each part is an alternative view of the content.   
However, exemys' mailer doesn't actually do what it should and the  
part that was text/plain just had the text that we saw while the other  
part (presumably text/html) had the real content.

Mailman, the mailing list system used for the list, correctly cuts out  
text/html parts of multipart/alternative messages and just sends on  
the text/plain alternative to the list members.

So the problem is that the original poster's mail headers falsely  
claim that the parts are genuine alternatives while in fact the text  
part is just a notice to read the other alternate.

Mailman is behaving correctly in my view, stripping out any HTML  
alternates and just going with the text/plain alternative.  Exemys'  
mailer is broken in that it sends messages that claim to provide a  
text/plain alternative, but doesn't actually honor that claim.

Cheers,

-j


-- 
Jeffrey Goldberg                        http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/

From noc at hdk5.net  Mon May  4 02:30:00 2009
From: noc at hdk5.net (Al Plant)
Date: Mon May  4 02:30:07 2009
Subject: xorg error with xfce3 wm install
Message-ID: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net>

Aloha,

I have used XFCE (3) from ports on all my FreeBSD desktops since 3.* .
I tried to install a test box with 8.0 CURRENT 200902 amd4 disc1.iso
Everything was fine until I tried to run xfce_setup.
It goes to a normal mouse arrow than dies off with this error.
"xlib extension error" "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".

Has anyone on our list seen this?  Any ideas how to fix this? Is there a 
line in the config that I can add manually? I have setup many XFCE3 
desktops and other than unidentified video cards, which have to be 
replaced with something FreeBSD can identify and connect to, it has just 
worked.

I find XFCE4 to loaded for the tasks I need. Thats why I use the older 
simpler version of this wm.

I tried on the XFCE forum but no response from anybody there.
Any help or direction on how to fix this is appreciated.

Thanks....

  ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
   + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
   + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
   < email: noc@hdk5.net >
"All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol

From matt at gsicomp.on.ca  Mon May  4 03:21:52 2009
From: matt at gsicomp.on.ca (Matt Emmerton)
Date: Mon May  4 04:06:38 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com><3a142e750905031351n38d762b7v46b4eeb1faad4799@mail.gmail.com><fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>
	<49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <6C3195FABAF8405ABA0692C53A20A523@hermes2>

0> jw <jwdevel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > echo $TERM | grep cons25 >> /dev/null && clear && vidcontrol -C
>>
>> Aha! I didn't know about 'vidcontrol -C'
>> That combined with 'clear' does the trick.
>>
>> However...
>> Is there any way I could have this execute when the "login:"
>> prompt displays, rather than having each user need to do it
>> themselves?
>>
>> In other words, I want this clearing to happen for all users
>> regardless of shell, etc.
>
> If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via
> configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login
> source code, I would try renaming the login binary to
> something like login.real, and replacing it with an
> executable script containing something like:
>
>  #!/bin/csh
>  clear
>  vidcontrol -C
>  exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"
>
> Granted such a hack will need to be redone any time you do
> an installworld.

The solution I've deployed in my environment is to have /etc/issue contain a 
single ^L character.
Prior to doing that, /etc/issue contained 25+ blank lines, which effectively 
cleared the terminal before displaying the login prompt.

Regards,
--
Matt Emmerton 

From a.pirko at inode.at  Mon May  4 04:15:20 2009
From: a.pirko at inode.at (Armin Pirkovitsch)
Date: Mon May  4 04:15:28 2009
Subject: Apache errors.
In-Reply-To: <49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net>
References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org>
	<49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net>
Message-ID: <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org>

Hi!

Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came?
(pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding
the correct port if you do not know which port that is)

Armin


On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote:

> Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it?
> 
> Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: 
> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: 
> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol 
> "libintl_bindtextdomain"

-- 
Armin Pirkovitsch
a.pirko@inode.at
From tajudd at gmail.com  Mon May  4 04:16:02 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Mon May  4 04:16:12 2009
Subject: where do I find libthr
In-Reply-To: <58d1e8d30905011817i2591c0a8xdac47a2123b7e2b2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <58d1e8d30904302103k34fcc372v31ca0e5b1d698934@mail.gmail.com> 
	<d7195cff0904302330y14b387c8nc1d4531d022a90b7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<58d1e8d30905010835v5b474297q38e180fc43d444fc@mail.gmail.com> 
	<d7195cff0905011136o72eb36ddu65118281d905cf69@mail.gmail.com> 
	<58d1e8d30905011817i2591c0a8xdac47a2123b7e2b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905032115k2193b332k2153b4121410e9f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:36 PM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2009/5/1 Bob Falanga <rfalang.bob@gmail.com>:
> > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:30 AM, illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > (please include the list in your email)
>
>
> This is Andy replying for my father.  Sorry about that.
>
>
> >
> > To rebuild your locate database, just run
> > /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate
> >
> > It makes finding files much easier.
>
>
> After rebuilding the locate database I get the following:
>
> [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# locate libthr
> /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db-1.0.so
> /compat/linux/lib/libthread_db.so.1
> /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db-1.0.so
> /compat/linux/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libthread_db.so.1
> /usr/Programs/Wine0.9.61/autolibs/libthr.so.2
> /usr/Programs/e-Sword0.9.56/autolibs/libthr.so.2
> /usr/lib/libthr.a
> /usr/lib/libthr.so
> /usr/lib/libthr.so.2
> /usr/lib/libthr_p.a
> /usr/lib/libthread_db.a
> /usr/lib/libthread_db.so
> /usr/lib/libthread_db.so.2
> /usr/lib/libthread_db_p.a
> /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1
> /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1
> /usr/ports/devel/pwlib/files/patch-src_ptlib_unix_tlibthrd.cxx
> /usr/share/man/cat3/libthr.3.gz
> /usr/share/man/man3/libthr.3.gz
>
> However, after running
>
> ldconfig -r | grep libthr
>
> I get:
>
> [root@pcbsd /usr/ports/www/apache22]# ldconfig -r | grep libthr
>        623:-lthr.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthr.so.1
>        624:-lthread_db.1 => /usr/local/lib/compat/libthread_db.so.1
>
> With so many hits on libthr from locate, why is ldconfig only finding these
> two instances in /usr/local/lib/compat?  Aren't these for linux
> compatibility?


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ldconfig&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&format=html
ldconfig(8)

2nd paragraph under Description


You may need to rescan and re-update the hints file.  See same manpage for
info.




>
>
>
>
>
> > If that fails, I'm afraid you'll have to
> > upgrade to 7.x
> >
>
> I hope it doesn't come to that.
>
> Andy (for Bob)
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Mon May  4 05:48:37 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Mon May  4 05:48:44 2009
Subject: SATA flash drive vs 7.0
Message-ID: <49fe8003.uFi88H0OvJL/NSy4%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

Should FreeBSD handle SATA-attached flash drives?

I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does
not seem to be working properly.  Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot:

  FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
      root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
  Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
  CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU)
    Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
    Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
  real memory  = 67100672 (63 MB)
  avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB)
  ...
  atapci1: <VIA 6421 SATA150 controller> port 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0
  atapci1: [ITHREAD]
  ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
  ata2: [ITHREAD]
  ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
  ata3: [ITHREAD]
  ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
  ata4: [ITHREAD]
  ...
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: 61136MB <PATRIOT MEMORY 64GB SSD 02.10104> at ata3-master SATA150

At first things look OK:

  $ ls -l /dev/ad6*
  crw-r-----  1 root  operator    0,  88 May  3 20:30 /dev/ad6
  $ file -s /dev/ad6
  /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de
  $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf
  drive f: file="/dev/ad6"
  $ mdir f:
  init F: non DOS media
  Cannot initialize 'F:'

Now this seems a bit odd:  file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but
mdir(1) says it isn't.  (Note that there are no slices, else the
initial ls(1) should have shown them.)  Then, when I tried to
investigate further by examining the contents of the drive with
"od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of output followed
by (on console and in dmesg):

  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936

etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
stop the spew of messages.)

What does this indicate?    Bad drive?  Controller?  Configuration?
PEBCAK?
From j.mckeown at ru.ac.za  Mon May  4 08:31:20 2009
From: j.mckeown at ru.ac.za (Jonathan McKeown)
Date: Mon May  4 08:31:43 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>

On Friday 01 May 2009 22:43:51 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> > are back where we started.
>
> What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk.
> That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it.   You can actually
> use sysinstall to do this as well.  Just let the installer come
> up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after
> it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or
> just let it finish and then overwrite it.
>
> But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s
> myself.  But, then I am used to it.
>
> Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living,
> then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk
> set up currently.   Write it down or print it out and keep it
> near that installation/fixit disk.

[Lots of good stuff about creating the partitions]

> Now all you have to do is newfs each partition.   Just take the
> defaults.   Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not
> just the drive identifier.

If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually restore 
your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install first, and 
with the same newfs settings for each partition as you originally had. You 
need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The 
rest of this message is the details.

On your running system, create and keep two files. My system has one slice, 
ad6s1, and the usual partitions - a for root, d for /tmp, e for /var, f 
for /usr, and I've shown the commands you need, and the resulting file 
contents on my current system, below:

bsdlabel ad6s1 >ad6s1.label

ad6s1.label contains:

# /dev/ad6s1:
8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  1048576        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384     8
  b:  8388608  1048576      swap
  c: 156296322        0    unused        0     0         # "raw" part, don't 
edit
  d: 20971520  9437184    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
  e:  1048576 30408704    4.2BSD     2048 16384     8
  f: 124839042 31457280    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552

I usually put all the spare space on a disk into /usr, so changing the first 
field on the f: line (the size) from 124839042 to * tells bsdlabel to do 
exactly that in case the replacement disk is a different size from the 
original.

We now need the newfs settings for all the 4.2BSD filesystems except c, so (in 
sh syntax)

for i in a d e f; do dumpfs -m ad6s1$i; done >newfscmds.ad6s1

newfscmds.ad6s1 now contains:

# newfs command for ad6s1a (/dev/ad6s1a)
newfs -O 2 -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1a
# newfs command for ad6s1d (/dev/ad6s1d)
newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
time -s 5242880 /dev/ad6s1d
# newfs command for ad6s1e (/dev/ad6s1e)
newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1e
# newfs command for ad6s1f (/dev/ad6s1f)
newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
time -s 31209760 /dev/ad6s1f

take out the -s 31209760 in the command for ad6s1f (this is the size of the 
new filesystem and it defaults to the size of the partition - which we made 
to take up the rest of the disk).

Now you can save these two files somewhere. When it comes to a catastrophic 
failure and restore, boot a liveCD. Use fdisk to create your single large 
slice on the new disk with

fdisk -BI ad6

Use 

bsdlabel -R ad6s1 ad6s1.label

to restore the disklabel.

If your device name is different from before, you need to edit newfscmds.ad6s1 
to change the ad6 to the new device name wherever it occurs, but you then run 
the newfs commands in the file to create your filesystems with the same 
parameters (softupdates on/off, etc) as before.

You now have the basic structure of your previous disk, ready to have the 
root, /var/ and /usr dumps restored to make a running system identical to the 
destroyed one, with one last step:

bsdlabel -B ad6s1

to put the boot code on the slice. (I haven't tried this bit, so if you're 
going to use the boot code from your root partition, which is stored 
at /boot/boot, you'll need to check whether you can run bsdlabel -B on a 
mounted disk. If you can, the command would be

bsdlabel -B -b /mnt/boot/boot /dev/ad6s1

assuming you mounted /dev/ad6s1a on /mnt).

If you have a different device name, of course, you also need to edit your 
fstab before rebooting.

Jonathan
From mail25 at bzerk.org  Mon May  4 09:10:36 2009
From: mail25 at bzerk.org (Ruben de Groot)
Date: Mon May  4 09:10:42 2009
Subject: lost+found
In-Reply-To: <20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>
	<20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org>

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:06:27PM +0200, Polytropon typed:
> On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
> > [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456
> > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls
> 
> Okay, it's empty.
> 
> 
> 
> > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd ..
> 
> Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456
> to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed?
> 
> 
> 
> > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory)
> 
> Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And
> why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory?

Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this
in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh.

Ruben
From mr.tapac at gmail.com  Mon May  4 09:40:18 2009
From: mr.tapac at gmail.com (Alexander Tarasov)
Date: Mon May  4 09:40:24 2009
Subject: lost+found
In-Reply-To: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org>
References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>
	<20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org>
Message-ID: <3b7dc6d0905040240t1a67c8e5s55b9450dc97c952c@mail.gmail.com>

"#" - is a comment..
in bash "cd" without dirname always return you to a home-directory..
"cd -" returns you to previous location, for example..

2009/5/4 Ruben de Groot <mail25@bzerk.org>

> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:06:27PM +0200, Polytropon typed:
> > On Sat, 02 May 2009 15:45:13 -0400, PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote:
> > > [~]# cd /tmp/lost+found/#123456
> > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# ls
> >
> > Okay, it's empty.
> >
> >
> >
> > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd ..
> >
> > Strange, why does .. lead you from /tmp/lost+found/#123456
> > to /tmp/lost+found/#123456, just as if cd wasn't executed?
> >
> >
> >
> > > [/tmp/lost+found/#123456]# cd #123456 this returns and empty directory)
> >
> > Does /tmp/lost+found/#123456 contain another #123456? And
> > why does this cd lead you to your (root's) home directory?
>
> Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this
> in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh.
>
> Ruben
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From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Mon May  4 09:47:04 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Mon May  4 09:47:12 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>
	<49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>

On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:

> If I needed to do this, could not find a way to do it via
> configuration settings, and didn't want to hack the login
> source code, I would try renaming the login binary to
> something like login.real, and replacing it with an
> executable script containing something like:
>
> ? #!/bin/csh
> ? clear
> ? vidcontrol -C
> ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"

But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll lock 
key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to stop people 
from seeing previous users console activity.

-- 
Mike Clarke
From steve at ibctech.ca  Mon May  4 12:46:00 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Mon May  4 12:46:06 2009
Subject: Quagga problem
In-Reply-To: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz>
References: <1438340987.20090503192725@starnet.cz>
Message-ID: <49FEE388.8020004@ibctech.ca>

Bc. Radek Krejca wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   starting this day I have problem with quagga, I get this messages
>   in my log:
> 
> May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: Assertion `len < str_size' failed in file bgp_aspath.c, line 619, function aspath_make_str_count
> May  3 19:15:36 gw kernel: pid 7225 (bgpd), uid 101: exited on signal 6
> May  3 19:15:36 gw bgpd[7225]: No backtrace available on this platform.
> 
>    I have latest verison of port quagga, I looks as bug in quagga,
>    but I dont know. Do you have any idea for solution?

Here is a link to a patch within the Quagga code base that resolves this
issue:

http://tinyurl.com/c8alza

Steve
From rea-fbsd at codelabs.ru  Mon May  4 13:10:47 2009
From: rea-fbsd at codelabs.ru (Eygene Ryabinkin)
Date: Mon May  4 13:10:54 2009
Subject: Filesystem and bigger files
In-Reply-To: <49FEC893.8030305@unile.it>
References: <49FA2E3F.9050108@entel.upc.edu>
	<3a142e750905010655i5e56282eu240e13f2a03dfb02@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB55A3.605@entel.upc.edu>
	<3a142e750905011716g39ea55f0kd081bfdd55709b37@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FBF9B5.40800@entel.upc.edu>
	<3a142e750905020617y40f62463ma91b46a015b2b2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FD61DD.7070903@entel.upc.edu>
	<3a142e750905030535v4cfe0103r1d8a17e828f6da9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<57348.147.83.40.234.1241416909.squirrel@webmail.entel.upc.edu>
	<49FEC893.8030305@unile.it>
Message-ID: <rsQIi9HNJOuJ8fFbQvkhS3cANN4@zJPT6v7ej2A2kHQ7pL5rJQfsxXs>

Antonio, good day.

Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:50:59PM +0200, Antonio Tommasi wrote:
> i've freebsd 7.0 in production and i've this hard-drive
> 
> Filesystem       Size    Used   Avail    Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/aacd0s1a  64G    15G     44G         26%    /
> 
> In a directory (spamassassin) i've one file (auto-whitelist) with 
> dimension 4.0 TB and one file (bayes_learn) with dimension 1.0TB
> 
> How is it possible? How this file are managed?

First, this isn't a proper question for the freebsd-net mailing list,
so I am redirecting it to freebsd-questions.

To answer your question: most likely, your filesystem is damaged and
should be fsck'ed.  Reboot in a single-user mode and run 'fsck -p
/dev/aacd0s1a' on your filesystem.  If it will correct the things --
it's good.  If not, run 'fsck /dev/aacd0s1a'.  It is always good to have
backups ;))  And the possible filesystem corruption is one of the
reasons why people prefer multiple partitions on the system, rather then
having one big and fat '/' partition.

Another possibility is that these files are sparse: they have "holes"
that aren't yet filled in.  Tb sizes are insane, but may be you directed
SA to do it.  Here is the illustration of sparse file creation and
its impact on the filesystem size:
-----
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s2f  24808094 14819988 8003460    65%    /0

$ dd if=/dev/zero of=test.bin bs=1K count=1 seek=10M
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
1024 bytes transferred in 0.000049 secs (20951060 bytes/sec)

$ ls -l test.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 usr  usr  10737419264  4 ??? 16:54 test.bin

$ df .
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s2f  24808094 14820046 8003402    65%    /0
-----
-- 
Eygene
 _                ___       _.--.   #
 \`.|\..----...-'`   `-._.-'_.-'`   #  Remember that it is hard
 /  ' `         ,       __.--'      #  to read the on-line manual
 )/' _/     \   `-_,   /            #  while single-stepping the kernel.
 `-'" `"\_  ,_.-;_.-\_ ',  fsc/as   #
     _.-'_./   {_.'   ; /           #    -- FreeBSD Developers handbook
    {_.-``-'         {_/            #
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May  4 13:39:38 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May  4 13:39:45 2009
Subject: Broken Partition
In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <20090504133854.GA84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:26:42PM -0700, Chris Chambers wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition. Then 
> using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the space to my 
> freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot loader can not 
> find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition under FixIt, but mount 
> says "broken argument".

You cannot just slab it on the side of an existing slice with fdisk.
You have to create a brand new slice that uses up all the space.
There is something called   growfs(8)  in FreeBSD, but that works 
on FreeBSD filesystems (FreeBSD partitions) rather than slices.

So, you might be able to use the fixit to go back and restore the
slice to the way it was and get a backup of it.   I am not sure.
Do you have any information on exactly which sector it previously
started on?   

You would have to create a slice _identical_ to the old one (without
any extra added on) and then use fdisk and bsdlabel to restore the
labels _exactly_ as before.  Then you might be able to read stuff.
I am not sure what fsck would do with it because some links probably
have been wiped out.

If you can get it to where dump(8) can make a dump of the each of
the partitions in the slice (except swap and /tmp - don't back up swap
or bother with /tmp), then do that.

Then, go back to Partition Magic and delete the FreeBSD slice and then
create a completely new one that combines the space of what you shaved
off from MSdos with the previous FreeBSD slice.   Then you can go back
to sysinstall (or manually with fdisk-bsdlabel-newfs) and create the
new, larger FreeBSD slice, divide it in to partitions and make file
systems out of them with newfs.

I think you will be extremely lucky if you can pull off rescuing
the old FreeBSD slice though.  You will have to get it to start
on the same sector and have identical links.   You might have to
use backup superblocks that are built in to the filesystems if you
can get to them.

This probably stems from a misunderstanding on how slices, partitions
and filesystems work.   Although most everything is flexible, the
beginnings of each are rather fixed and cannot be arbitrarily shoved
around without being remade from scratch.

////jerry


> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Chris
> 
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From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May  4 13:59:58 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May  4 14:00:05 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<20090501204351.GB44369@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
Message-ID: <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:

> On Friday 01 May 2009 22:43:51 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:07:22PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> > > Let's say we have a system that is backed up regularly and it
> > > vanishes in a puff of smoke one day. One can get FreeBSD
> > > installed on a new drive in maybe half an hour or so but we also
> > > need to get back to the right patch level and then we can say we
> > > are back where we started.
> >
> > What you want to do is use the fixit image to set up the disk.
> > That means fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs it.   You can actually
> > use sysinstall to do this as well.  Just let the installer come
> > up and do the disk stuff, choose minimal install and then after
> > it finishes making the disks, kill the rest of the install (or
> > just let it finish and then overwrite it.
> >
> > But, I find it actually easier to do the fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs-s
> > myself.  But, then I am used to it.
> >
> > Right after you get done making sure where your fixit is living,
> > then use fdisk and bsdlabel to check for the way you have the disk
> > set up currently.   Write it down or print it out and keep it
> > near that installation/fixit disk.
> 
> [Lots of good stuff about creating the partitions]
> 
> > Now all you have to do is newfs each partition.   Just take the
> > defaults.   Remember that newfs wants the full device spec, not
> > just the drive identifier.
> 
> If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually restore 
> your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install first, and 
> with the same newfs settings for each partition as you originally had. You 
> need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The 
> rest of this message is the details.

If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have
identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need
to worry about all that.   Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs
take its defaults.   You do not need an identical filesystem to
do a restore(8) on it.   Restore builds it from scratch in the correct
way - in fact in a better way than what it was before the system
was whacked.    So, just build the new disk either manually or with
sysinstall and then restore the dumps within the filesystems.

Make sure you cd in to the mounted filesystem - note, since you
are running from a fixit, you are making up new mount points and
mounting the filesystems from the new disk.   Something like:

  mkdir /newroot
  mount /dev/ad0s1a /newroot
  cd /newroot
  restore -rf /dev/nsa0 
   (replace /dev/nsa0 with wherever you are reading the dump.  don't
    forget to position the tape with mt fsf nn if it is a tape)

You can also skip the fdisk if you are running only FreeBSD from that
disk and don't mind using what is called a 'dangerously dedicated' disk.
It isn't really all that dangerous.  No weird creatures will climb out
and grab you by the throat at night.

If you do dangerously dedicated, the device addressing leaves out
the slice specifier (s1, s2, s3 or s4) and would look something 
like:   /dev/ad0a   instead of  /dev/ad0s1a.

////jerry

> 
> On your running system, create and keep two files. My system has one slice, 
> ad6s1, and the usual partitions - a for root, d for /tmp, e for /var, f 
> for /usr, and I've shown the commands you need, and the resulting file 
> contents on my current system, below:
> 
> bsdlabel ad6s1 >ad6s1.label
> 
> ad6s1.label contains:
> 
> # /dev/ad6s1:
> 8 partitions:
> #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
>   a:  1048576        0    4.2BSD     2048 16384     8
>   b:  8388608  1048576      swap
>   c: 156296322        0    unused        0     0         # "raw" part, don't 
> edit
>   d: 20971520  9437184    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
>   e:  1048576 30408704    4.2BSD     2048 16384     8
>   f: 124839042 31457280    4.2BSD     2048 16384 28552
> 
> I usually put all the spare space on a disk into /usr, so changing the first 
> field on the f: line (the size) from 124839042 to * tells bsdlabel to do 
> exactly that in case the replacement disk is a different size from the 
> original.
> 
> We now need the newfs settings for all the 4.2BSD filesystems except c, so (in 
> sh syntax)
> 
> for i in a d e f; do dumpfs -m ad6s1$i; done >newfscmds.ad6s1
> 
> newfscmds.ad6s1 now contains:
> 
> # newfs command for ad6s1a (/dev/ad6s1a)
> newfs -O 2 -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
> time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1a
> # newfs command for ad6s1d (/dev/ad6s1d)
> newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
> time -s 5242880 /dev/ad6s1d
> # newfs command for ad6s1e (/dev/ad6s1e)
> newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
> time -s 262144 /dev/ad6s1e
> # newfs command for ad6s1f (/dev/ad6s1f)
> newfs -O 2 -U -a 8 -b 16384 -d 16384 -e 2048 -f 2048 -g 16384 -h 64 -m 8 -o 
> time -s 31209760 /dev/ad6s1f
> 
> take out the -s 31209760 in the command for ad6s1f (this is the size of the 
> new filesystem and it defaults to the size of the partition - which we made 
> to take up the rest of the disk).
> 
> Now you can save these two files somewhere. When it comes to a catastrophic 
> failure and restore, boot a liveCD. Use fdisk to create your single large 
> slice on the new disk with
> 
> fdisk -BI ad6
> 
> Use 
> 
> bsdlabel -R ad6s1 ad6s1.label
> 
> to restore the disklabel.
> 
> If your device name is different from before, you need to edit newfscmds.ad6s1 
> to change the ad6 to the new device name wherever it occurs, but you then run 
> the newfs commands in the file to create your filesystems with the same 
> parameters (softupdates on/off, etc) as before.
> 
> You now have the basic structure of your previous disk, ready to have the 
> root, /var/ and /usr dumps restored to make a running system identical to the 
> destroyed one, with one last step:
> 
> bsdlabel -B ad6s1
> 
> to put the boot code on the slice. (I haven't tried this bit, so if you're 
> going to use the boot code from your root partition, which is stored 
> at /boot/boot, you'll need to check whether you can run bsdlabel -B on a 
> mounted disk. If you can, the command would be
> 
> bsdlabel -B -b /mnt/boot/boot /dev/ad6s1
> 
> assuming you mounted /dev/ad6s1a on /mnt).
> 
> If you have a different device name, of course, you also need to edit your 
> fstab before rebooting.
> 
> Jonathan
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From lists at jnielsen.net  Mon May  4 14:04:04 2009
From: lists at jnielsen.net (John Nielsen)
Date: Mon May  4 14:04:11 2009
Subject: Broken Partition
In-Reply-To: <6316666.29861241425117016.JavaMail.myubc2@brahms.my.ubc.ca>
References: <6316666.29861241425117016.JavaMail.myubc2@brahms.my.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <200905041004.01464.lists@jnielsen.net>

It is best to include the list in all replies, so that people other than 
the original responder can offer additional help and so people searching 
the list archives in the future will have a complete picture.

Also, not top-posting (putting replies in the context of the original 
message) is is preferred on this and many other lists. I've reformatted 
your message and added comments inline below.

On Monday 04 May 2009 04:18:37 am Chris Chambers wrote:
> On Sun May 03 John Nielsen wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 May 2009 09:26:42 pm Chris Chambers wrote:
> > > Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition.
> > > Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the
> > > space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot
> > > loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition
> > > under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument".
> >
> > When you say "add the space to my freebsd partition" what exactly did
> > you do?
>
> Sorry, what I meant by "add the space to my freebsd partition" was:
>
> I created the free space, giving me:
> ad0s1
> ad0s2
> Free Space
> ad0s3
>
> I deleted and recreated ad0s3 in fdisk. Inside the label tool, I added
> swap space and mounted the remaining on / (as before).

You forgot to say "I made a backup." If you really skipped that step then 
hopefully you'll remember next time..

Did you write down the original values from fdisk and bsdlabel? Putting 
them back may be your best bet for recovery.

I would avoid using _any_ swap until you have your data back.

If your new free space had been _after_ the FreeBSD slice on the disk you 
may have had better luck. Since you moved the _beginning_ of your slice 
that changed the relative offsets of everything else which is probably 
why your filesystem is broken (I am not a UFS expert). What is surprising 
is that the loader ran at all... unless you used "bsdlabel -B" or 
similar.

If you revert the fdisk and bsdlabel values, save your data and want to 
try again a safer approach would be to define a fourth slice to occupy 
the free space (yes it will be out of order but FreeBSD shouldn't care.. 
not sure about DOS or PartitionMagic). Then just use the slice as 
additional swap directly (no bsdlabel, just ad0s4). But do make a backup 
this time.

> > What device nodes are listed for your disk from the fixit
> > environment?
>
> Currently, the devices are:
> ad0s1 - DOS, type 7
> ad0s2 - DOS, type 7
> ad0s3
> ad0s3a - UFS
> ad0s3b - Swap
> ad0s3c - ?

The "c" partition is the "raw" partition and is always the same size as 
the underlying device (or should be). I don't know that it's used for 
much any more, but there are historical reasons it's there.

> I would settle for the ability to mount the drive so that I could
> retrieve a few files.

Try reverting the fdisk and bsdlabel values (see above).

JN
From crankbuster at gmail.com  Mon May  4 14:18:45 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Mon May  4 14:18:52 2009
Subject: Questions about groups.
Message-ID: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>


Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.

What does that one do?

I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of
course 'wheel'.

I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable
regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.

I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
initial install.

Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
to them?

Thanks,

-- 
Cheers
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From j.mckeown at ru.ac.za  Mon May  4 14:30:57 2009
From: j.mckeown at ru.ac.za (Jonathan McKeown)
Date: Mon May  4 14:31:14 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
	<20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <200905041630.53832.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>

On Monday 04 May 2009 15:59:14 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
>
> > If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can actually
> > restore your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a partial install
> > first, and with the same newfs settings for each partition as you
> > originally had. You need to use bsdlabel and dumpfs -m and keep the
> > output for rebuilding. The rest of this message is the details.
>
> If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have
> identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need
> to worry about all that. ? Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs
> take its defaults.

Which of your filesystems currently has softupdates disabled? You may not 
care - but the point is that using dumpfs in the way I described will 
preserve that information (along with all the other tuning options) for 
people who do care.

If you're restoring a complete machine from backup, the less you have to think 
about, the better. Knowing that my filesystems are going to be restored with 
whatever tuning options I was previously running with, without my having to 
try and remember, gives me peace of mind ahead of time.

Jonathan
From shaun at insipidity.co.uk  Mon May  4 14:50:37 2009
From: shaun at insipidity.co.uk (Shaun Friedle)
Date: Mon May  4 14:50:45 2009
Subject: Groups problems
Message-ID: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk>

Hi,
I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system
doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file
permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has
some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument
it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know
what the problem might be?

[shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test
-rw-rw-r--  1 www  mercurial     0B  4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test
[shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test
bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied
[shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami
shaun
[shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group
wheel:*:0:root,shaun
www:*:80:shaun
shaun:*:1002:
svn:*:1004:svn,shaun
mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www
[shaun@strange] ~ $ groups
shaun wheel svn
[shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun
shaun wheel www svn mercurial
[shaun@strange] ~ $ id
uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(svn)
[shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun
uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun)
groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial)

--
Thanks,
Shaun Friedle
From milu at dat.pl  Mon May  4 14:59:17 2009
From: milu at dat.pl (Maciej Milewski)
Date: Mon May  4 14:59:24 2009
Subject: Groups problems
In-Reply-To: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk>
References: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200905041659.06818.milu@dat.pl>

Monday 04 May 2009 16:24:33 Shaun Friedle napisa?(a):
> Hi,
> I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system
> doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file
> permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has
> some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument
> it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know
> what the problem might be?
>
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test
> -rw-rw-r--  1 www  mercurial     0B  4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test
> bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami
> shaun
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group
> wheel:*:0:root,shaun
> www:*:80:shaun
> shaun:*:1002:
> svn:*:1004:svn,shaun
> mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups
> shaun wheel svn
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun
> shaun wheel www svn mercurial
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ id
> uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(svn)
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun
> uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun)
> groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial)
Have you done relogin on this account?


-- 
Pozdrawiam,
Maciej Milewski
From a.pirko at inode.at  Mon May  4 15:01:06 2009
From: a.pirko at inode.at (Armin Pirkovitsch)
Date: Mon May  4 15:01:14 2009
Subject: Groups problems
In-Reply-To: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk>
References: <49FEFAA1.4030503@insipidity.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090504165342inode@frozen-zone.org>

Have you relogged in after adding the user to the group file?
(su -l should do the trick as well if you can't log out/relog in for
some reason)

Otherwise you'll get exactly the behaviour you described below.

Armin

On Mon 04 May 2009, Shaun Friedle wrote:

> Hi,
> I seem to have a weird problem with groups, it seems like the system
> doesn't notice that I am in certain groups when it comes to file
> permissions, and if I run groups or id with no arguments it also has
> some groups missing from the list, but with my username as an argument
> it is complete. I've never encountered this before, does anyone know
> what the problem might be?
> 
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ ls -lh /tmp/group_test
> -rw-rw-r--  1 www  mercurial     0B  4 May 14:08 /tmp/group_test
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ echo test > /tmp/group_test
> bash: /tmp/group_test: Permission denied
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ whoami
> shaun
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ grep shaun /etc/group
> wheel:*:0:root,shaun
> www:*:80:shaun
> shaun:*:1002:
> svn:*:1004:svn,shaun
> mercurial:*:1006:shaun,www
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups
> shaun wheel svn
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ groups shaun
> shaun wheel www svn mercurial
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ id
> uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun) groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),1004(svn)
> [shaun@strange] ~ $ id shaun
> uid=1002(shaun) gid=1002(shaun)
> groups=1002(shaun),0(wheel),80(www),1004(svn),1006(mercurial)

-- 
Armin Pirkovitsch
a.pirko@inode.at
From dnelson at allantgroup.com  Mon May  4 15:11:22 2009
From: dnelson at allantgroup.com (Dan Nelson)
Date: Mon May  4 15:11:30 2009
Subject: install -s
In-Reply-To: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net>
References: <49FB5CDF.80100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090504151116.GA3371@dan.emsphone.com>

In the last episode (May 01), Nathan Lay said:
> Should install -s really fail if strip fails?  I noticed cross-binutils
> strips everything it installs...in my case, one of the utilities it tries
> to strip is a script and install -s obnoxiously fails.  I set DONTSTRIP to
> get around this problem.
> 
> For a point of reference, I'm running a recent 7-STABLE.

It's best that if strip fails, install fails.  strip could unlink the
original file but fail for some reason to rename the temp file to the
original name.

Your problem could be a bug in the cross-binutils Makefile; scripts
shouldn't be installed with "install -s".  BSD-style Makefiles use PROG= and
SCRIPTS= definitions, and automake-generated Makefiles use foo_PROGRAMS= and
foo_SCRIPTS= to install executable binaries vs scripts.
 
-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com
From Ryan.vanEerdewijk at sdimediagroup.com  Mon May  4 15:46:20 2009
From: Ryan.vanEerdewijk at sdimediagroup.com (Ryan van Eerdewijk)
Date: Mon May  4 15:46:27 2009
Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password
Message-ID: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com>

Hi,

I have a strange issue. If I type:

mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here

... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share will mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup. I haven't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh script. In fact typing:

mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here

gives me the following error:

mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error

I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file:

[theserver]
workgroup=MYWORKGROUP
addr=10.10.10.10

[theserver:theuser]
password=$$1571crypto'dpassword

I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even checking the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and also including the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file.

I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Ryan V.
From echen at nyx.com  Mon May  4 15:54:13 2009
From: echen at nyx.com (Eddie Chen)
Date: Mon May  4 15:54:21 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
Message-ID: <OF0AD0F8C7.F7AF9F33-ON852575AC.0051DDF6-852575AC.0054AB65@nyx.com>





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From ray at stilltech.net  Mon May  4 15:59:18 2009
From: ray at stilltech.net (Ray)
Date: Mon May  4 15:59:25 2009
Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password
In-Reply-To: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com>
References: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com>
Message-ID: <200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net>

On May 4, 2009 09:31:09 am Ryan van Eerdewijk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a strange issue. If I type:
>
> mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here
>
> ... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share
> will mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup. I
> haven't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh
> script. In fact typing:
>
> mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here
>
> gives me the following error:
>
> mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error
>
> I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file:
>
> [theserver]
> workgroup=MYWORKGROUP
> addr=10.10.10.10
>
> [theserver:theuser]
> password=$$1571crypto'dpassword
>
> I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even
> checking the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and
> also including the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file.
>
> I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan V.
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Hi Ryan,
What  You have is very similar to what I use, except I don't use the -N Flag 
on mount_smbfs. 
Ray
From tamarlea at gmail.com  Mon May  4 16:02:57 2009
From: tamarlea at gmail.com (Tamar Lea)
Date: Mon May  4 16:03:04 2009
Subject: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall
Message-ID: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits behind
an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used
FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be
always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is using
ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too much
bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redirect
all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay pools
to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the max
speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possible
with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do the
job?
Thanks,
Tamar
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Mon May  4 16:45:17 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Mon May  4 16:45:25 2009
Subject: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall
In-Reply-To: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FF1B8A.3040900@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Tamar Lea wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits behind
> an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used
> FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be
> always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is using
> ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too much
> bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redirect
> all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay pools
> to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the max
> speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possible
> with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do the

Hmmm... out of the three possible choices for firewall implementations under
FreeBSD you have ended up with probably the least capable one.  ipfilter's 
unique selling point is that it is available on a large number of different
systems.  In this case I don't think that really counts for much.

The other two alternatives -- together with their associated QoS / traffic
shaping technologies are:

  ipfw + dummynet

     This is a FreeBSD specific firewall implementation.  It's a first
     match wins type ruleset which provides all the usual functionality:
     NAT, stateful filtering etc.  It can be a bit tricky to manage on
     a live system as remote updates to the ruleset have an unfortunate
     tendency to lock you out of the system.

  pf + altq

     This is the new and shiny firewall system ported from OpenBSD. 
     It's a last match wins type ruleset, modified by 'quick' (immediately
     applied) rules (similar to ipf), so more flexible than ipfw.  The
     configuration file is also a lot more readable than ipfw IMHO.  You will
     need to build a custom kernel to make use of ALTQ functionality as for
     some reason that cannot be provided by a loadable kernel module like the
     rest of pf(4).  This would be my personal preference for solving the
     problem you describe.

Either of these two should serve you well and allow you to do the required
traffic shaping.  Note: while it is technically possible to run more than
one of the three firewall packages at once; that way madness lies, particularly
for fledgeling administrators.  It might be worth it for a short time if you
really, absolutely, no alternative, have to do a zero-downtime cut-over, but
the risks of something going wrong are significant.  A quick restart with new
software is hardly any more intrusive and a lot safer.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
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From josh at tcbug.org  Mon May  4 16:47:55 2009
From: josh at tcbug.org (Josh Paetzel)
Date: Mon May  4 16:48:01 2009
Subject: base system openssl in 7.1
Message-ID: <4FCB5B42-E0B7-4B0F-B220-C851A7BACDDC@tcbug.org>

I've been trying to figure out a way to run openssl's make test  
against the openssl included in FreeBSD RELENG_7_1

What I haven't been able to make go is make test in /usr/src/crypto/ 
openssl using various permutations of ./config

Can someone clue me in?

Thanks,

Josh Paetzel




From odhiambo at gmail.com  Mon May  4 16:49:16 2009
From: odhiambo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?=)
Date: Mon May  4 16:49:22 2009
Subject: per protocol bandwidth filters for firewall
In-Reply-To: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1ab57dc80905040833q1573f264oe6bd77420df31c6d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <991123400905040949p7351a397s199b538961647ab3@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Tamar Lea <tamarlea@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I have inherited the job of maintaining a FreeBSD firewall that sits behind
> an ADSL line that connects 128 clients to the internet. I have not used
> FreeBSD before but have some linux experience. The connections must be
> always on though I am allowed to reboot if absolutely necessary. It is
> using
> ipfilter and ipnat. There have been issues with clients taking up too much
> bandwidth, so after several hours of careful testing I managed to redirect
> all traffic on port 80 to a squid service using ipnat. This uses delay
> pools
> to limit the max speed per user. However I would also like to limit the max
> speed per user for streaming traffic on port 1935. Would this be possible
> with the current setup and what programs or config would be able to do the
> job?


If you consider PF+ALTQ, you will be able to do what IPFilter/IPNAT is doing
now and much more - just like you desire. You will also find it quite easy
to convert the current firewall/nat rules into PF syntax.

Best of luck!


-- 
Best regards,
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Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
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From tajudd at gmail.com  Mon May  4 18:09:49 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Mon May  4 18:09:56 2009
Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password
In-Reply-To: <200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net>
References: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E06@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com>
	<200905040959.13354.ray@stilltech.net>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905041109u63d18b75n8798d0acc93a4cf@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Ray <ray@stilltech.net> wrote:

> On May 4, 2009 09:31:09 am Ryan van Eerdewijk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a strange issue. If I type:
> >
> > mount_smbfs //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here
> >
> > ... I will be prompted for theuser's password, I type it, and the share
> > will mount fine. But I want this share to mount automatically at bootup.
> I
> > haven't been able to get it to work through /etc/fstab or through an sh
> > script. In fact typing:
> >
> > mount_smbfs -N //theuser@theserver/myshare$ /mnt/here
> >
> > gives me the following error:
> >
> > mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Authentication error
> >
> > I have the following in my /etc/nsmb.conf file:
> >
> > [theserver]
> > workgroup=MYWORKGROUP
> > addr=10.10.10.10
> >
> > [theserver:theuser]
> > password=$$1571crypto'dpassword
> >
> > I get the feeling that when mounting the smbfs share, it isn't even
> > checking the nsmb.conf file. I've also tried a plain text password, and
> > also including the same information in a /root/.nsmbrc file.
> >
> > I'm running out of ideas. Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ryan V.
>
> Hi Ryan,
> What  You have is very similar to what I use, except I don't use the -N
> Flag
> on mount_smbfs.
> Ray
>


A friend recently had this problem and it was due to capitalization.

IIRC, the username in the nsmb.conf file needs to be in all caps, whereas
the username that is given to the server is actually lowercase, or vice
versa.  It was found by a google search and just due to caps alone.

Try toggling the caps, I know, odd fix, but it worked for my friend


--Tim
From doug at polands.org  Mon May  4 18:32:23 2009
From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland)
Date: Mon May  4 18:32:30 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905041630.53832.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
	<200905041031.16748.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
	<20090504135914.GB84251@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<200905041630.53832.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
Message-ID: <20090504181629.GC96593@polands.org>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Monday 04 May 2009 15:59:14 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:31:16AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> >
> > > If you have kept the right information beforehand, you can
> > > actually restore your dumps onto ``bare metal'' without doing a
> > > partial install first, and with the same newfs settings for each
> > > partition as you originally had. You need to use bsdlabel and
> > > dumpfs -m and keep the output for rebuilding. The rest of this
> > > message is the details.
> >
> > If you have a specific reason to want your new filesystems' to have
> > identical superblock info, you can use dumpfs -m, but you don't need
> > to worry about all that. ? Just fdisk, bsdlabel and then let newfs
> > take its defaults.
> 
> Which of your filesystems currently has softupdates disabled? You may
> not care - but the point is that using dumpfs in the way I described
> will preserve that information (along with all the other tuning
> options) for people who do care.
> 
> If you're restoring a complete machine from backup, the less you have
> to think about, the better. Knowing that my filesystems are going to
> be restored with whatever tuning options I was previously running
> with, without my having to try and remember, gives me peace of mind
> ahead of time.
> 
Excellent discussion.  Along the lines of "the less you have to think
about",  is there a technique for restoring geom meta-data on bare
metal?  Say you have a system built upon gmirror and gjournal.  One must
manually create the mirror and journal before restoring from dump.  But
the vital geom meta-data describing your mirror/journal is on the dump.


-- 
Regards,
Doug
From Ryan.vanEerdewijk at sdimediagroup.com  Mon May  4 18:38:08 2009
From: Ryan.vanEerdewijk at sdimediagroup.com (Ryan van Eerdewijk)
Date: Mon May  4 18:38:14 2009
Subject: Cannot mount smbfs share without requiring manual password
Message-ID: <093DA668CFE5964490CB291025DFE56E026AF81E0C@SM-AM-EX-01.am.sdimediagroup.com>

You, sir, are a genius. This solved it.

Much thanks,

Ryan V.
From illoai at gmail.com  Mon May  4 18:39:36 2009
From: illoai at gmail.com (illoai@gmail.com)
Date: Mon May  4 18:39:42 2009
Subject: Questions about groups.
In-Reply-To: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
Message-ID: <d7195cff0905041139m1ee4eb86yea534b7be3d82d24@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/4 Old Crankbuster <crankbuster@gmail.com>:
>
> Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
> user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.
>
> What does that one do?

Members of "operator" can run /sbin/shutdown among
other things.
find / -group operator
can answer better than I ever could.

>
> I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, and of
> course 'wheel'.
>
> I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, and need to enable
> regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
> network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.
>
> I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
> initial install.
>
> Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
> to them?
>

Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.

Best of luck.

-- 
--
From freebsd at edvax.de  Mon May  4 18:41:29 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Mon May  4 18:41:36 2009
Subject: lost+found
In-Reply-To: <20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org>
References: <49FCA2C9.4060307@videotron.ca>
	<20090502230627.71ef7124.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<20090504090804.GA66641@ei.bzerk.org>
Message-ID: <20090504204120.31a34cc8.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Mon, 4 May 2009 11:08:04 +0200, Ruben de Groot <mail25@bzerk.org> wrote:
> Probably because the # is interpreted as comment. I can reproduce this
> in a bourne shell; not in (t)csh.

Ah, thank you. According to the prompt, it didn't look
like csh in the first place, but not like plain sh, too.
Customized bash prompts usually include brackets 'n stuff.

Because I'm using csh mostly, I didn't see the problem
that "cd #something" == "cd" (which of course leads
to $HOME).

An attempt to "rm #12345" in sh / bash should lead to
an error message (for incomplete rm command).

It's safe to use the Midnight Commander to cd into and
rm #something files and directories. :-)




-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From freebsd at edvax.de  Mon May  4 19:02:36 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Mon May  4 19:02:43 2009
Subject: Questions about groups.
In-Reply-To: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
Message-ID: <20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Mon, 4 May 2009 21:18:34 +0700, Old Crankbuster <crankbuster@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Coming from Gnu/Linux, I see differences in group generation on regular
> user generation, and there's a group I'm not familiar with - 'operator'.
> 
> What does that one do?

The operator groupt allows its users to perform some operator tasks,
without needing them to be in the wheel group. It's like a "limited
root permissions" group. You'll find some programs that are +x for
this group (for example /sbin/shutdown).



> I'm familiar with 'staff' and I've added my normal user to that, [...]

I've often seen that FreeBSD defaults to user name = group name
for the adduser script, but I usually use the staff group, as you
do. Further fine grained parameters for user and group preferences
can be set in an environment where you have more than one user.



> [...] and of
> course 'wheel'.

Why "of course"? :-)



> I intend to use the system on a laptop in this case, [...]

Typical single user setting.



> [...] and need to enable
> regular user access to audio, cdrom/dvd read and write, usb access, and
> network reconfiguration/dialout, games and so forth.

There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because
you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the "dialer"
group for ppp).



> I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
> initial install.

No, they seem to be "Linuxisms". :-)



> Do I need to manually add such groups and then point relevant packages
> to them?

No. What should happen then? How should that work? :-)

FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important
files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf.

The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows
you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are
those that are present from system startup on.

The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects
new devices while it's already running.

See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-)



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From doug at polands.org  Mon May  4 19:12:22 2009
From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland)
Date: Mon May  4 19:12:28 2009
Subject: To file a PR, or not to file a PR. That is the question.
Message-ID: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org>

Hello,

A server running 7.1-RELEASE(i386) recently starting deadlocking when
multiple UFS2 snaphosts are being manipulated (via sysutil/freebsd-snapshot).

Upon searching the PR database, I found a problem repart that appears
similar (kern/94769) but with my level of expertise, I'm not certain.
My question, should I go ahead a file a PR, in the hope that more
visability of the issue is better, and therefore more likely to receive
attention?  


-- 
Regards,
Doug
From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Mon May  4 19:19:12 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Mon May  4 19:19:24 2009
Subject: To file a PR, or not to file a PR. That is the question.
In-Reply-To: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org>
References: <20090504185324.GA97148@polands.org>
Message-ID: <20090504151910.3ef7b803.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Doug Poland <doug@polands.org>:

> Hello,
> 
> A server running 7.1-RELEASE(i386) recently starting deadlocking when
> multiple UFS2 snaphosts are being manipulated (via sysutil/freebsd-snapshot).
> 
> Upon searching the PR database, I found a problem repart that appears
> similar (kern/94769) but with my level of expertise, I'm not certain.
> My question, should I go ahead a file a PR, in the hope that more
> visability of the issue is better, and therefore more likely to receive
> attention?  

You'll probably get more mileage by adding details of your problem to
the existing PR.  The person who's handling it will know how closely
the issues are related.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From jos at webrz.net  Mon May  4 19:58:52 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Mon May  4 19:59:02 2009
Subject: NIC
Message-ID: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>

In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to 
replace my old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one.
Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls 
advise on the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)?

thanks,
Jos Chrispijn

-- 
No one is listening until you make a mistake...
From jnatola at familycareintl.org  Mon May  4 20:18:37 2009
From: jnatola at familycareintl.org (Jean-Paul Natola)
Date: Mon May  4 20:18:44 2009
Subject: NIC
In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org>

I don't think dell has their own brand of NIC's  in my experience  intel  has
always great quality and support (drivers) for their nic cards

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jos Chrispijn
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:47 PM
To: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: NIC

In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to 
replace my old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one.
Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls 
advise on the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)?

thanks,
Jos Chrispijn

-- 
No one is listening until you make a mistake...
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From wblock at wonkity.com  Mon May  4 20:23:21 2009
From: wblock at wonkity.com (Warren Block)
Date: Mon May  4 20:23:29 2009
Subject: NIC
In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905041417280.71967@wonkity.com>

On Mon, 4 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

> In order to speed up my LAN backups a little bit, I would like to replace my 
> old 10/100 nic with a 10/100/1000 one.
> Should be placed in an ancient Dell of 5 years old. Can someone pls advise on 
> the type nic I should buy (not necessarily a Dell brand)?

The Intel cards are well regarded.  A Pro/1000 (PWLA8391GT) works well 
here.

Many other brands of gigabit cards are based on Realtek chipsets, which 
are not as well regarded.  The Realtek gigabit built into the MSI P45 
Neo-3 FR motherboard seems to work fine.

Probably everyone else will point this out also, but replacing the card 
alone won't give you gigabit; you also need a switch and maybe new 
wiring.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
From roberthuff at rcn.com  Mon May  4 20:31:19 2009
From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff)
Date: Mon May  4 20:31:26 2009
Subject: NIC
In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org>
References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
	<3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org>
Message-ID: <18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org>


Jean-Paul Natola writes:

>  I don't think dell has their own brand of NIC's in my experience
>  intel has always great quality and support (drivers) for their
>  nic cards

	Conversely, cards based on RealTek chips have a reputation of
being both inexpensive /and/ cheap.  (This may or may not be true of
the wireless cards.)
	The drivers for the Intel cards are written by Intel; I've got
a dual-port Pro/1000 GT, and the thing is a _rock_.



				Robert Huff
From dkelly at hiwaay.net  Mon May  4 21:00:27 2009
From: dkelly at hiwaay.net (David Kelly)
Date: Mon May  4 21:00:34 2009
Subject: NIC
In-Reply-To: <18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
	<3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E435D@www.fcimail.org>
	<18943.20628.234092.793988@jerusalem.litteratus.org>
Message-ID: <20090504210022.GA83256@Grumpy.DynDNS.org>

On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:31:16PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote:
> 
> 	Conversely, cards based on RealTek chips have a reputation of
> being both inexpensive /and/ cheap.  (This may or may not be true of
> the wireless cards.)

The first generation of RealTek chips were little more than a shift
register and deserved a poor reputation for requiring a lot of CPU
resources. That got RT into market share and now have satisfactory
product.

> 	The drivers for the Intel cards are written by Intel; I've got
> a dual-port Pro/1000 GT, and the thing is a _rock_.

Ditto. Intel NICs are exceptionally well supported. If one must run
Windows, an Intel NIC and Intel driver provide a lot of features which
are otherwise missing.

-- 
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
From shinjii at maydias.com  Mon May  4 21:24:52 2009
From: shinjii at maydias.com (Warren Liddell)
Date: Mon May  4 21:24:59 2009
Subject: FOR MARK
Message-ID: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>

After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list 
everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is 
the error i got....

enterprise# ls
dvd.iso
enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso
WARNING: /dev/cd1 already carries isofs!
About to execute 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass1
obs=32k seek=0'
mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image.
:-( write failed: Input/output error

enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd0 dvd.iso
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass0 obs=32k
seek=0'
mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image.
:-( write failed: Input/output error

What am i missing//not doing correctly ?


From freebsd at wcubed.net  Mon May  4 21:44:19 2009
From: freebsd at wcubed.net (Brad Waite)
Date: Mon May  4 21:44:26 2009
Subject: Broken drive geometry / partitions on 7.2 install
Message-ID: <49FF5B63.40302@wcubed.net>

Hi all,

I was trying to install 7.2 RELEASE on top of a previous 6.4 RELEASE I'd set up
(but not deployed).  The server has a 40MB Intel service partition and the rest
of the drive for FreeBSD.  Here's what greeted me when doing the fdisk from the
install CD:



Disk name:      da0                                    FDISK Partition Editor
DISK Geometry:  2209 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 35487585 sectors (17327MB)

Offset       Size(ST)        End     Name  PType       Desc  Subtype    Flags

         0         63         62        -     12     unused        0
        63      64197      64259    da0as1     4 Compaq Diagnostic       18
     64260    3013499    3077758        -     12     unused        0
   3077758      64197    3141955    da0cs1     4 Compaq Diagnostic       18
   3141956   32345629  354875584        -     12     unused        0



It says there's 2 service partition slices (type 18) and no FreeBSD slice.
Remember, I had successfully installed 6.4 on this drive and was able to boot
into both the service partition and FreeBSD.

I ended up deleting all the partitions and recreating them by hand.  I first
created the service partition slice with a size of 80262 (which is what
/sbin/fdisk under 6.4 reported), and the FBSD slice with a size of 35407260
(the remaining space).

After doing that, I was able to install 7.2 just fine and boot into it.  I was
also able to boot into the Intel service partition, since I hadn't blown over
any of the original slice.

However, this is what I get from /usr/sbin/sysinstall's fdisk now:



Disk name:      da0                                    FDISK Partition Editor
DISK Geometry:  2209 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 35487585 sectors (17327MB)

Offset       Size(ST)        End     Name  PType       Desc  Subtype    Flags

         0         63         62        -     12     unused        0
        63      64197      64259    da0s1      4 Compaq Diagnostic       18
     64260   35423325   35487584    da0s2      8    freebsd      165



And /sbin/fdisk reports the same:



******* Working on device /dev/da0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=2209 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=2209 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 18 (0x12),(Compaq diagnostics)
    start 63, size 64197 (31 Meg), flag 0
        beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
        end: cyl 3/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 64260, size 35423325 (17296 Meg), flag 80 (active)
        beg: cyl 4/ head 0/ sector 1;
        end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63


Notice that I have only 2 slices, but the service partition slice is 64194
blocks instead of the 80262.  On top of this, when I boot from the 7.2 install
CD again, fdisk shows the same screwed-up setup with 2 Compaq Diag slices with
no FBSD slice.

What on earth is happening?  Is my drive geometry hosed?  Is this some sort of
weird LBA issue?  I'm nervous about configuring and deploying this machine
acting as it is.  I also have an identical machine that's reporting the same thing.

Thanks.
From freebsd at edvax.de  Mon May  4 23:31:30 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Mon May  4 23:31:37 2009
Subject: FOR MARK
In-Reply-To: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>
References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>
Message-ID: <20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Tue, 05 May 2009 07:25:47 +1000, Warren Liddell <shinjii@maydias.com> wrote:
> After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list 
> everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is 
> the error i got....
> 
> enterprise# ls
> dvd.iso
> enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso

Hmmm... my growisofs doesn't have -dvd-video (only -dvd-compat),
so google("geowisofs -dvd-compat"); and I found:

	The -dvd-video option will be passed down to mkisofs(8)
	and will instruct it to create a DVD-Video file system
	layout. Beside this, the -dvd-video option implies -dvd-compat
	growisofs(1) option.

Source:

	http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html
	18.7.4

It seems that -dvd-video has to be given if you've NOT mastered
an ISO file already, read: when you work with the source files.



> WARNING: /dev/cd1 already carries isofs!

Not a blank media?



> About to execute 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvd.iso | builtin_dd of=/dev/pass1
> obs=32k seek=0'
> mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image.
> :-( write failed: Input/output error

The mkisofs tools seems to require the source files for the ISO
to be created, it cannot create a video DVD ISO file from a video
DVD ISO file.



> What am i missing//not doing correctly ?

Missing: Reading the handbook.
Not doing correctly: Command line options.
:-)




-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From shinjii at maydias.com  Tue May  5 00:28:57 2009
From: shinjii at maydias.com (Warren Liddell)
Date: Tue May  5 00:29:04 2009
Subject: FOR MARK
In-Reply-To: <20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>
	<20090505013121.9d051365.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <49FF8868.6010708@maydias.com>

What am i missing//not doing correctly ?

>
> Missing: Reading the handbook.
> Not doing correctly: Command line options.
> :-)
>   
I'll skip a lot of steps then an just use the standard growisofs for img 
files since DVStyler creates the DVD Video IMG once you've imported the 
mpeg file

/
 /

From crankbuster at gmail.com  Tue May  5 00:42:32 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Tue May  5 00:42:40 2009
Subject: Questions about groups.
In-Reply-To: <d7195cff0905041139m1ee4eb86yea534b7be3d82d24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
	<d7195cff0905041139m1ee4eb86yea534b7be3d82d24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090505004219.GA6564@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* illoai@gmail.com <illoai@gmail.com> [2009-05-04 14:39:34 -0400]:

> 
> Various methods apply (for instance /dev/dspN.n is world
> writable), man 5 devfs.conf is a good start for some of that.
> 
 
Ah.  Thanks.

-- 
Cheers
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From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Tue May  5 00:46:04 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Tue May  5 00:46:11 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>

The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only
initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted.  A simple
'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the
kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night
-- was the source of a great deal of lost time!

My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus
active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot
console.

(from /var/log/messages:)

May  4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
throttling interrupt source
May  4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times
May  4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1
May  4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
throttling interrupt source
May  4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times
May  4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times
May  4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times
May  4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times
etc etc ad repetitum infinitum

Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate?

Question2: What the heck is it?


Best regards,

-- 
Duane
From crankbuster at gmail.com  Tue May  5 00:54:04 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Tue May  5 00:54:11 2009
Subject: Questions about groups.
In-Reply-To: <20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <20090504141834.GA5348@gecko.davescrunch.net>
	<20090504210229.c10231a2.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <20090505005351.GB6564@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> [2009-05-04 21:02:29 +0200]:
 
> > [...] and of
> > course 'wheel'.
> 
> Why "of course"? :-)
> 

Umm, linuxism habit :-)


> There are several groups that you can add your user to, but because
> you're already in wheel, you don't have to (such as the "dialer"
> group for ppp).
> 
> 
> 
> > I am not seeing such things as plugdev,audio,cdrom in etc/group after
> > initial install.
> 
> No, they seem to be "Linuxisms". :-)
> 

:-)
 
> FreeBSD manages the things you're requiring through two important
> files: /etc/devfs.conf (and /etc/devfs.rules) and /etc/devd.conf.
> 
> The devfs files control the virtual device file system. It allows
> you to have permissions on a per-device file basis. These files are
> those that are present from system startup on.
> 
> The devd file controls how the system should react if it detects
> new devices while it's already running.
> 
> See the manpages for these files. Yes, they do exist. :-)

Excellent.  Many thanks. :-)

-- 
Cheers 
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From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 01:09:46 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 01:09:53 2009
Subject: Emacs-ess
Message-ID: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com>

How do I install emacs-ess. I don't see it in the ports.

Thanks in advance,
Daniel

(Sent from my iPhone)
From amvandemore at gmail.com  Tue May  5 01:29:45 2009
From: amvandemore at gmail.com (Adam Vande More)
Date: Tue May  5 01:29:51 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49FF9680.3020800@gmail.com>

Duane wrote:
> The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only
> initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted.  A simple
> 'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the
> kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night
> -- was the source of a great deal of lost time!
>   
Good you found a work around.  You might try ensuring your running 
latest avail bios as well.
> My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus
> active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot
> console.
>
> (from /var/log/messages:)
>
> May  4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
> throttling interrupt source
> May  4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times
> May  4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1
> May  4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
> throttling interrupt source
> May  4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times
> May  4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times
> May  4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times
> May  4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times
> etc etc ad repetitum infinitum
>
> Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate?
>   
Yes, it's probably something you should eliminate. 
> Question2: What the heck is it?
>   
A poor explanation is the devices are fighting over an IRQ.  Generally, 
simplest fix is to find what devs are on that IRQ, and manually reassign 
one dev to a different IRQ.
>
> Best regards,
>
>   

From sandy at trainingforyoubyus.com  Tue May  5 01:49:09 2009
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From keramida at ceid.upatras.gr  Tue May  5 02:33:29 2009
From: keramida at ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas)
Date: Tue May  5 02:33:37 2009
Subject: Emacs-ess
In-Reply-To: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com> (Daniel
	Underwood's message of "Mon, 4 May 2009 21:09:34 -0400")
References: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop>

On Mon, 4 May 2009 21:09:34 -0400, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do I install emacs-ess. I don't see it in the ports.

You can probably just download the emacs-ess sources and extract them in
a personal directory for testing, i.e.:

    % mkdir ~/elisp
    % cd ~/elisp
    % fetch http://ess.r-project.org/downloads/ess/ess-5.3.11.tgz
    % tar xzvf ess-5.3.11.tgz

Then add in your ~/.emacs file the following:

    (add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/ess-5.3.11")
    (require 'ess-site)

If you see an *ESS* buffer then you are probably ready to go.  If not,
then see the detailed installation instructions in `ess-5.3.11/README'.

HTH,
Giorgos

From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 02:45:45 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 02:45:52 2009
Subject: Emacs-ess
In-Reply-To: <87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop>
References: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com>
	<87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905041945i703ce0c2wad2e359bc0d6b00a@mail.gmail.com>

Giorgos, thanks a bunch--that was easy!  Your suggestions worked perfectly.

When I originally tried to install ess, i downloaded the tarball and
tried to build it's contents from source.  I did this because I
glanced at the tarball's contents and saw such things as "Makeconf"
and "Makefile".

This, to me, begs the question: why the Makefile if there's no need to
compile? (Pardon my limited understanding.)

Thanks,
Daniel
From keramida at ceid.upatras.gr  Tue May  5 02:49:37 2009
From: keramida at ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas)
Date: Tue May  5 02:49:45 2009
Subject: Emacs-ess
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905041945i703ce0c2wad2e359bc0d6b00a@mail.gmail.com>
	(Daniel Underwood's message of "Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:42 -0400")
References: <1A44786C-D6B4-4F81-A993-63ED7B4C65F2@gmail.com>
	<87zldswa6i.fsf@kobe.laptop>
	<b6c05a470905041945i703ce0c2wad2e359bc0d6b00a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87skjkw9fl.fsf@kobe.laptop>

On Mon, 4 May 2009 22:45:42 -0400, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Giorgos, thanks a bunch--that was easy!  Your suggestions worked perfectly.
>
> When I originally tried to install ess, i downloaded the tarball and
> tried to build it's contents from source.  I did this because I
> glanced at the tarball's contents and saw such things as "Makeconf"
> and "Makefile".
>
> This, to me, begs the question: why the Makefile if there's no need to
> compile? (Pardon my limited understanding.)

Byte-compiling Emacs Lisp code can make it slightly faster to load.

So there is a marginally small advantage to doing that.  But if you
don't keep closing and reopening Emacs, causing everything to reload
from scratch, it shouldn't matter very much if you load the source .el
files once.

From tajudd at gmail.com  Tue May  5 03:45:48 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Tue May  5 03:45:55 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905042045i7b27d289h5088d60daecd53da@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Duane <duane@cheekymonkey.us> wrote:

> The bios in this old Micron dual PPro-180 full tower antique only
> initializes the second CPU if the machine is cold-booted.  A simple
> 'reboot' results in a single processor machine regardless of the
> kernel that is launched. This fact -- unknown to me before last night
> -- was the source of a great deal of lost time!
>
> My 6.4 SMP kernel (now customized) runs just fine, with both cpus
> active, *except* for this message streaming constantly up the boot
> console.
>
> (from /var/log/messages:)
>
> May  4 20:20:33 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
> throttling interrupt source
> May  4 20:21:02 poobah last message repeated 42 times
> May  4 20:21:03 poobah login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv1
> May  4 20:21:03 poobah kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq15:";
> throttling interrupt source
> May  4 20:21:33 poobah last message repeated 30 times
> May  4 20:23:33 poobah last message repeated 120 times
> May  4 20:33:33 poobah last message repeated 599 times
> May  4 20:40:01 poobah last message repeated 387 times
> etc etc ad repetitum infinitum
>
> Question1: Is this something I should go to some lengths to eliminate?
>
> Question2: What the heck is it?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Duane
>


IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or E-ISA)
plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on
that bus too.

Likely candidates are PCI devices, such as modems, NICs, sound cards, etc

I think you'd be able to find what's on IRQ15 by a simple:
  # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot


You will probably not be able to pull your secondary IDE controller off 15.
The possible other device that's been configured for irq15 might stop if you
disable PnP OS in the BIOS (if it exists), or setting irq15 to the
equivelant of 'reserved' in the BIOS might aleviate the problem.


Good luck.
From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Tue May  5 05:49:01 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Tue May  5 05:49:08 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905042045i7b27d289h5088d60daecd53da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905042045i7b27d289h5088d60daecd53da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/4/09, Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:

> IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or E-ISA)
> plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on
> that bus too.

This box has one SCSI card running two SCSI drives. The IDE's are
disabled in the BIOS. But the SCSI card does feature in the problem:

>   # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot

No 'irq15' is found. One can see that the "interrupt storm" begins
when the SCSI drives begin to spin up, IF the machine is booting with
two cpus initialized. dmesg.boot is attached for everyone's
edification and amusement!

Another interesting datapoint is that if the machine is booted in Safe
Mode the "interrupt storm" disappears, but  so does the second cpu.


Best regards,

-- 
Duane
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From tajudd at gmail.com  Tue May  5 06:00:09 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Tue May  5 06:00:16 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ade45ae90905042045i7b27d289h5088d60daecd53da@mail.gmail.com> 
	<5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905042259m79be0f5ck7d2f5182c648c589@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Duane <duane@cheekymonkey.us> wrote:

> On 5/4/09, Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IRQ15 is typically your secondary IDE controller; but due to PCI (or
> E-ISA)
> > plug&play, including the PnP the BIOS may setup, lots of others can be on
> > that bus too.
>
> This box has one SCSI card running two SCSI drives. The IDE's are
> disabled in the BIOS. But the SCSI card does feature in the problem:
>
> >   # grep -i irq15 /var/run/dmesg.boot
>
> No 'irq15' is found. One can see that the "interrupt storm" begins
> when the SCSI drives begin to spin up, IF the machine is booting with
> two cpus initialized. dmesg.boot is attached for everyone's
> edification and amusement!
>
> Another interesting datapoint is that if the machine is booted in Safe
> Mode the "interrupt storm" disappears, but  so does the second cpu.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Duane
>

I've seen the IRQ storms when an IDE channel is disabled too.  And to
silence it I had to enable the channel (using an IRQ), with no devices on
it.  it's gonna be a chatterbox, and the question is if the system can work
with a shortage of up to 2 IRQs (irq 14 = primary IDE, irq 15 = secondary
IDE)

Especially early 586 and 686 classes I saw that often.

Would you try enabling the IDE channels and see if the IRQ storms stop?


--TJ
From duane at cheekymonkey.us  Tue May  5 06:39:17 2009
From: duane at cheekymonkey.us (Duane)
Date: Tue May  5 06:39:23 2009
Subject: Part II: Running SMP kernel but only one cpu
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905042259m79be0f5ck7d2f5182c648c589@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5e8ad96d0905041746o67c463e9t1297a0b3103557bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905042045i7b27d289h5088d60daecd53da@mail.gmail.com>
	<5e8ad96d0905042249p670eefeakf61d578bf09e373@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905042259m79be0f5ck7d2f5182c648c589@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5e8ad96d0905042339q78282defwffdc1d363a559c47@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/5/09, Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would you try enabling the IDE channels and see if the IRQ storms stop?

There is joy in Mudville. <g>

I couldn't really change the IDE settings that much since there are no
IDE drives in this thing. The channels are all on 'auto' and  that
yields a "NONE" for each of them (iirc, it's a kinda late). But I did
turn on some stuff that was off in the BIOS: serial port A, the sound
card, and the parallell port.  I know it's not good engineering
practice to change a bunch of stuff at once, but there it is. Whatever
I did along the lines of turning stuff *on* seems to have done the
trick!

Thanks all!

-- 
Duane
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Tue May  5 08:20:27 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Tue May  5 08:20:35 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<fa8771800905031429g10824451qc1f608b4189eff24@mail.gmail.com>
	<49fe3674.T7f7dmOgxNx5YnmK%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
Message-ID: <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

Mike Clarke <jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> wrote:
> On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
...
> > ? #!/bin/csh
> > ? clear
> > ? vidcontrol -C
> > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"
>
> But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll
> lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to
> stop people from seeing previous users console activity.

That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish,
based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the
thread.  Granted I have not actually tried it.
From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Tue May  5 08:45:19 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Tue May  5 08:45:27 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
	<49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>

On Tuesday 05 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:

> Mike Clarke <jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > ? #!/bin/csh
> > > ? clear
> > > ? vidcontrol -C
> > > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"
> >
> > But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll
> > lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to
> > stop people from seeing previous users console activity.
>
> That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish,
> based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the
> thread.  Granted I have not actually tried it.

Yes, "vidcontrol -C" will accomplish this, but my point was that 
including this as part of the replacement login script is too late. You 
don't need to be logged in to use the scroll lock and pg{Up,Dn} keys. 
To prevent people seeing the previous users activity you would need to 
clear the console buffer at the logout stage.

-- 
Mike Clarke
From Johan at double-l.nl  Tue May  5 09:00:10 2009
From: Johan at double-l.nl (Johan Hendriks)
Date: Tue May  5 09:00:19 2009
Subject: Snapshots
Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local>

Are there no more snapshots of current?
The last is from 02-2009


Regards,
Johan 

From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Tue May  5 09:22:06 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Tue May  5 09:22:13 2009
Subject: vtund&linux client
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051119060.21470@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

i wanted to give IPv6 tunnel to someone running linux with vtund

added position as usual to vtund.conf (there are already many tunnels), 
and he can't connect.

In FreeBSD you have to add

VTUN_EXTENDED_MODE=yes

to /etc/make.conf before compiling from ports to have IPv6 support.

in linux - i don't know. does anyone have an example (or working vtund 
binary/package) for linux supporting IPv6?
From mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk  Tue May  5 09:43:20 2009
From: mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk (Marc Coyles)
Date: Tue May  5 09:43:28 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
Message-ID: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>

I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but
I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below:

/usr/bin/mt rewind
/sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /
dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

/sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /home
mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

/sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /tmp
dump: Cannot create /tmp/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

/sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /usr
dump: Cannot create /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

/sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /var
dump: Cannot create /var/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

/usr/bin/mt rewind


The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, with
perms 770... 
The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 0 bytes,
root:operator, perms 400...

Running 7.0-RELEASE-p11...

Any suggestions?

Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team
Mbl: 07850 518106
Land: 01924 282740 ext 730
Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000
 



From crankbuster at gmail.com  Tue May  5 09:47:02 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Tue May  5 09:47:09 2009
Subject: ATI woes
Message-ID: <20090505094651.GA4784@gecko.davescrunch.net>


Thought I'd throw this one out there:

I installed release 7.1  while waiting for 7.2 to download, used the
handbook to configure X, get Gnome up and running, and start learning
the system.  The graphics chip on this laptop is ati hd 3200, and the
standard X radeon driver worked ok.

Cleaned everything off and installed 7.2, and the driver is borked using
the same method (enable dbus and hald in /etc/rc.conf, then run Xorg
-config): The screen is black with some tearing, and the machine accepts
no keyboard input to exit X, requiring a dirty reboot.

So cleaned everything off again, reinstalled 7.1 and will play there
until I can figure out how to upgrade the system without borking X.

Little alarm bells were going off in my head when I bought this thing
(I've had severe problems with ati chips under windows and linux in the
past), but it was cheap, and I needed a slab right away.

Sorry 'bout the rant, but ati sucks.

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From cpghost at cordula.ws  Tue May  5 09:47:22 2009
From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost)
Date: Tue May  5 09:47:29 2009
Subject: FOR MARK
In-Reply-To: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>
References: <49FF5D5B.6080500@maydias.com>
Message-ID: <20090505094716.GA1395@phenom.cordula.ws>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 07:25:47AM +1000, Warren Liddell wrote:
> After finally managing to get some encoding options from this list 
> everything went smoothley untill it got to the burning part .. below is 
> the error i got....
> 
> enterprise# ls
> dvd.iso
> enterprise# growisofs -dvd-video -Z /dev/cd1 dvd.iso

1. you probably meant -dvd-compat instead of -dvd-video
2. for premastered isos, use this syntax: -Z /dev/cd1=dvd1.iso
   (don't forget the = sign)

> What am i missing//not doing correctly ?

-cpghost.

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From cpghost at cordula.ws  Tue May  5 10:09:53 2009
From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost)
Date: Tue May  5 10:10:01 2009
Subject: MAKE_JOBS_SAFE et al. missing in documentation?
Message-ID: <20090505100950.GA1531@phenom.cordula.ws>

Shouldn't the following variables be mentioned in the Porter's
Handbook and in ports(7)?

(from /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk)

# MAKE_JOBS_SAFE
#    - This port can safely be built on multiple cpus in parallel.
#      The make will be invoked with -jX parameter where X equals
#      number of cores present in the system.

# MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE
#    - Disallow multiple jobs even when user set a global override.
#      To be used with known bad ports.

# DISABLE_MAKE_JOBS
#    - Set to disable the multiple jobs feature.  User settable.

# FORCE_MAKE_JOBS
#    - Force all ports to be built with multiple jobs, except ports
#      that are explicitly marked MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE.  User settable.

# MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER
#    - Override the number of make jobs to be used.  User settable.

This is incredibly useful and a lot of ports actually compile cleanly
with MAKE_JOBS_SAFE, though they are still not yet marked as such.

-cpghost.

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From turutani at scphys.kyoto-u.ac.jp  Tue May  5 10:24:34 2009
From: turutani at scphys.kyoto-u.ac.jp (turutani)
Date: Tue May  5 10:24:41 2009
Subject: Apache won't start - undefined symbol "libintl_bindtextdomain"
In-Reply-To: <af13f00c0904270949p39087257vd96cad98c1a38efe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af13f00c0904270905m9e1fe90w1946de8ac6263eb4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49F5DED3.8010609@gmail.com>
	<af13f00c0904270946m135c5ed2n63fb43dba47955c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<af13f00c0904270949p39087257vd96cad98c1a38efe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23384784.post@talk.nabble.com>




Bill Somerson wrote:
> 
> "I did a "make config" in avahi-app (which is where libintl.so.8 came
> from)"
> 
> Sorry, I meant avahi-app is where libavahi-common.so.3 came from (which is
> the thing that's complaining about a lack of libintl_bindtextdomain).
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Bill Somerson
> <billsomerson@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> 

how about the patch in
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=134227
?


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From frank at shute.org.uk  Tue May  5 10:36:53 2009
From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute)
Date: Tue May  5 10:37:01 2009
Subject: clear old output in login screen?
In-Reply-To: <200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
References: <fa8771800905031146v51a8b752ra125f68a2520da4f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905041018.00717.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
	<49fff6e5.JdJRbLiNeEolnKU2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<200905050945.16910.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090505103641.GA62529@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:45:16AM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 05 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> 
> > Mike Clarke <jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Monday 04 May 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > > ? #!/bin/csh
> > > > ? clear
> > > > ? vidcontrol -C
> > > > ? exec /usr/bin/login.real "$@"
> > >
> > > But this wouldn't prevent someone scrolling back with the scroll
> > > lock key before logging in. I assume the OP's requirement is to
> > > stop people from seeing previous users console activity.
> >
> > That's what the "vidcontrol -C" line is supposed to accomplish,
> > based on my reading of vidcontrol(1) and earlier messages in the
> > thread.  Granted I have not actually tried it.
> 
> Yes, "vidcontrol -C" will accomplish this, but my point was that 
> including this as part of the replacement login script is too late. You 
> don't need to be logged in to use the scroll lock and pg{Up,Dn} keys. 
> To prevent people seeing the previous users activity you would need to 
> clear the console buffer at the logout stage.
> 

I see what you mean.

Perhaps put vidcontrol -C in /etc/csh.logout

For other shells e.g ksh:

alias logout='~/.ksh_logout; exit'

(not tested)

It seems that for sh, logout is a builtin but it's not mentioned in
it's manpage.


Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 

From yavuz.maslak at netiletisim.net  Tue May  5 07:33:19 2009
From: yavuz.maslak at netiletisim.net (=?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?=)
Date: Tue May  5 11:39:24 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
Message-ID: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>

Hello

I use freebsd7.1

I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as 
following;
File A:
abcde
12345
etc.

File B:
xyzas
12345
etc

As above some strings are same and some strings are different.
There are several differents between these two files.

When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 > 
fileresult"   like I couldn't result right.
How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?

Which command do I need to use ?
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From frank at shute.org.uk  Tue May  5 11:46:24 2009
From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute)
Date: Tue May  5 11:46:33 2009
Subject: Broken Partition
In-Reply-To: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
References: <21461620.25281241400402258.JavaMail.myubc2@handel.my.ubc.ca>
Message-ID: <20090505104410.GB62529@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>

On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 06:26:42PM -0700, Chris Chambers wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> Using partition magic, I freed some space from my msdos partition.
> Then using sysinstall's fdisk and label, I attempted to add the
> space to my freebsd partition. I broke the installation. The boot
> loader can not find /boot/kernal. I tried mounting the partition
> under FixIt, but mount says "broken argument".
> 
>
> Any ideas?

The loader wont be able to find /boot/kernal but /boot/kernel it might
stand a chance ;)

No idea if this is your problem; it might just be a typo in your post.


Regards,

-- 

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From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 12:37:30 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 12:37:38 2009
Subject: Using portsuprade only for security
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>

I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of
installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I
prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An
obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security
vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security
fixes.

So my question is: how or where can I monitor security
vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect
to security, without applying every non-security update?

Thanks,
Daniel
From sonicy at otenet.gr  Tue May  5 12:55:15 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Tue May  5 12:55:23 2009
Subject: Using portsuprade only for security
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A003730.10702@otenet.gr>

Daniel Underwood wrote:
> I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of
> installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I
> prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An
> obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security
> vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security
> fixes.
>
> So my question is: how or where can I monitor security
> vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect
> to security, without applying every non-security update?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>   
User ports-mgmt/portaudit
This will report any installed port with security issues. It will even
run from periodic, sending this info via email.
From danielby at slightlystrange.org  Tue May  5 12:57:06 2009
From: danielby at slightlystrange.org (Daniel Bye)
Date: Tue May  5 12:58:01 2009
Subject: Using portsuprade only for security
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090505125659.GA46153@torus.slightlystrange.org>

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:37:28AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote:
> I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of
> installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I
> prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An
> obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security
> vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security
> fixes.
> 
> So my question is: how or where can I monitor security
> vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect
> to security, without applying every non-security update?

Subscribe to security-notifications@ (for base system security alerts),
and install ports-mgmt/portaudit.

-- 
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From tajudd at gmail.com  Tue May  5 13:10:31 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Tue May  5 13:10:37 2009
Subject: Using portsuprade only for security
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050537r65d39df8u2e192d13e00c9c40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905050610l35d1cd59ob2c3e6c7ac57ef2b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of
> installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I
> prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An
> obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security
> vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security
> fixes.
>
> So my question is: how or where can I monitor security
> vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect
> to security, without applying every non-security update?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>

portaudit does that.  watch your periodic mailings after install
From mjs at rakupottery.org.uk  Tue May  5 13:17:01 2009
From: mjs at rakupottery.org.uk (Martin Smith)
Date: Tue May  5 13:17:08 2009
Subject: Apache errors.
In-Reply-To: <20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org>
References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org>	<49FE0A33.5040804@telus.net>
	<20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org>
Message-ID: <49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk>

Armin Pirkovitsch wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came?
> (pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding
> the correct port if you do not know which port that is)
> 
> Armin
> 
> 
> On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote:
> 
>> Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it?
>>
>> Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
>> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf: 
>> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server: 
>> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol 
>> "libintl_bindtextdomain"

Now I have the same problem so I went to recompile avahi-app, did rmconfig
and then make config, it said no user config options, or something very 
similar.
So where to now?

-- 
Martin
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 13:23:00 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 13:23:07 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm
running out of room on my 300GB external.  Anyone have good experience
with any particular brands?  I really don't know how different brands
compare in reliability to one another.  Of course I plan to check CNet
and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks
have personal recommendations.

Thanks,
Daniel
From andrew at qemg.org  Tue May  5 13:42:40 2009
From: andrew at qemg.org (Andrew Wright)
Date: Tue May  5 13:42:48 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
In-Reply-To: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>
References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051044590.1577@qemg.org>

On Tue, 5 May 2009, Marc Coyles wrote:

> I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but
> I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below:
>
> /usr/bin/mt rewind
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /
> dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

You probably have not created the .snap directory in the root of the
filesystem.

>From the dump(8) man page:
 	If the .snap directory does not exist in the root of the
 	file system being dumped, a warning will be issued and the
 	dump will revert to the standard behavior.  This problem
 	can be corrected by creating a .snap directory in the root
 	of the file system to be dumped; its owner should be
 	``root'', its group should be ``operator'', and its mode
 	should be ``0770''.

A.

From andrew at qemg.org  Tue May  5 13:48:51 2009
From: andrew at qemg.org (Andrew Wright)
Date: Tue May  5 13:49:08 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051046340.1577@qemg.org>

On Tue, 5 May 2009, Daniel Underwood wrote:

> and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks
> have personal recommendations.

I had an unpleasant experience with Maxtor/Seagate support this year.

I had one of their OneTouch III's pack up after 6 mo, and the
warranty replacement died out of the box.  It took 69 days
as well as dozens of phone calls + emails to get a replacement
for the dead replacement.

The overall failure rate of their products seems to be acceptable,
but their support is just terrible.

A.

From mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk  Tue May  5 13:55:22 2009
From: mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk (Marc Coyles)
Date: Tue May  5 13:55:30 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051044590.1577@qemg.org>
References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051044590.1577@qemg.org>
Message-ID: <004901c9cd88$97377450$c5a65cf0$@wakefield.sch.uk>

> You probably have not created the .snap directory in the root of
> the filesystem.

Like I said...

"The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, 
with perms 770... The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 
0 bytes, root:operator, perms 400..."


Marc


From freebsd at edvax.de  Tue May  5 14:27:56 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Tue May  5 14:28:03 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
In-Reply-To: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
References: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
Message-ID: <20090505162748.8aff21eb.freebsd@edvax.de>

Hi,

I don't want to sound impolite, but I think it's important
that you know the correct terminology:
On Tue, 5 May 2009 10:33:19 +0300, Yavuz Ma?lak <yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net> wrote:
> I use freebsd7.1
> 
> I have two folders [...]

In UNIX, there are no "folders". These are called directories.
To avoid misunderstandings, please name them correctly in the
future.


> which contains some expressions in everyline as 
> following;
> File A:

See? You call them "files" correctly. Why don't you refer to
them as "sheets of paper" as an analogy to "folders"? :-)



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Tue May  5 14:33:34 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Tue May  5 14:33:41 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051046340.1577@qemg.org>
References: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051046340.1577@qemg.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051631270.23536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> warranty replacement died out of the box.  It took 69 days
> as well as dozens of phone calls + emails to get a replacement
> for the dead replacement.

while i never had problems with warranty on hard drives (only internal but 
anyway), it always took 2-3 weeks.

shop where i bought it handled it for me.
From sonicy at otenet.gr  Tue May  5 14:44:09 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Tue May  5 14:44:16 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr>

Daniel Underwood wrote:
> I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm
> running out of room on my 300GB external.  Anyone have good experience
> with any particular brands?  I really don't know how different brands
> compare in reliability to one another.  Of course I plan to check CNet
> and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks
> have personal recommendations.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>   
I recently replaced my Lacie external hardrive (used for backup) with a
WD MyBook.
The Lacie was about two years old and the USB interface failed. The disk
is still ok.  I believe this came along as a result of faulty design
decisions:

- The disk was on and spinning all the time, no matter if accessed or
not (it was only getting mounted for an hour or two a day)
- There was not enough space in the box and around the disk, very bad
cooling.

The MyBook quickly spins down when not in use and runs very cool due to
the case design. I expect it to last a lot longer. I believe these come
in 1Tb models as well.

From a.pirko at inode.at  Tue May  5 15:04:10 2009
From: a.pirko at inode.at (Armin Pirkovitsch)
Date: Tue May  5 15:04:18 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
In-Reply-To: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
References: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
Message-ID: <20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org>

First of all I suppose you're talking about 2 files, not folders.
In which case the command you're using isn't looking so bad since it
shows the differences between file "a" and file "b":

 > diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b
 abcde                                                         | xyasz

But since you do not seem to be happy with the output - what should it
look like?

Armin

On Tue 05 May 2009, Yavuz Ma?lak wrote:

> I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as 
> following;
> File A:
> abcde
> 12345
> etc.
> 
> File B:
> xyzas
> 12345
> etc
> 
> As above some strings are same and some strings are different.
> There are several differents between these two files.
> 
> When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 > 
> fileresult"   like I couldn't result right.
> How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
> 
> Which command do I need to use ?

-- 
Armin Pirkovitsch
a.pirko@inode.at
From freebsd at optiksecurite.com  Tue May  5 15:37:32 2009
From: freebsd at optiksecurite.com (Martin Turgeon)
Date: Tue May  5 15:37:39 2009
Subject: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update
Message-ID: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com>

Hi everyone,

It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a 
new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to 
7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails 
to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already 
updated...

freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE
freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself

I understand that the jails are sharing the kernel and that 
freebsd-update must be verifying the version of the kernel. So I tried 
to just fetch install the update in the jail.

freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ fetch install
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 6 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 7.2-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... 
done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Preparing to download files... done.

No updates needed to update system to 7.2-RELEASE-p0.
No updates are available to install.
Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first.

I already used the -b option to update my jails with security updates, 
but never to a new release. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks everyone for sharing!

Martin
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 16:26:14 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 16:26:24 2009
Subject: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update
In-Reply-To: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com>
References: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com>
Message-ID: <200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 17:37:42 Martin Turgeon wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a
> new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to
> 7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails
> to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already
> updated...
>
> freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE
> freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself

Should be able to trick it using:
env UNAME_r=7.1-RELEASE-p5 freebsd-update -b /path/to/jail

(based on a quick source scan, untested).
-- 
Mel
From corky1951 at comcast.net  Tue May  5 16:33:49 2009
From: corky1951 at comcast.net (Charlie Kester)
Date: Tue May  5 16:33:56 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
In-Reply-To: <4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr>
References: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0050B6.8000400@otenet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090505162029.GE18204@comcast.net>

On Tue 05 May 2009 at 07:44:06 PDT Manolis Kiagias wrote:
>I recently replaced my Lacie external hardrive (used for backup) with a
>WD MyBook.  The Lacie was about two years old and the USB interface
>failed. The disk is still ok.  I believe this came along as a result of
>faulty design decisions:
>
>- The disk was on and spinning all the time, no matter if accessed or
>not (it was only getting mounted for an hour or two a day)
>- There was not enough space in the box and around the disk, very bad
>cooling.

I had the same problem with a 500GB LaCie external drive.  The USB
interface had been flaky for a while, and finally died one day when we
had a windstorm and the power went out.  I removed the drive from the
housing and connected it directly via SATA, and it's been running like a
champ ever since.

From LukeD at pobox.com  Tue May  5 17:09:17 2009
From: LukeD at pobox.com (Luke Dean)
Date: Tue May  5 17:09:25 2009
Subject: ath_hal problem on slow hardware, can be tuned?
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905051006560.52172@border.lukas.is-a-geek.org>


I'm following 7-STABLE with my laptop.  As soon as ath_hal appeared, I
started having trouble with my wireless connection dropping every few
hours.

+ath0: ath_chan_set: unable to reset channel 11 (2462 Mhz, flags 0x480 hal 
flags 0xc0), hal status 3

The ath manpage documents this error as:
ath%d: ath_chan_set: unable to reset channel %u (%u Mhz)  The Atheros
Hardware Access Layer was unable to reset the hardware when switching
channels during scanning.  This should not happen.

sys/contrib/dev/ath/ah.h documents the error 3 as:
HAL_EIO         = 3,    /* Hardware didn't respond as expected */

I can run
/etc/rc.d/netif start
dhclient ath0
to reset the interface and reconnect to the wireless network after
this happens.

I'm thinking that ath_hal doesn't like my card as much as the old
ath driver system did, or perhaps there's some tunable that I need to
adjust.
This is an old laptop.  It's a Sony Vaio PCG-Z505S - a celeron
133MHz "designed for MS Windows 98".  In the best of circumstances, it
can never establish a wireless connection before ntp comes up at boot
time.  wpa_supplicant always "gives up" the first time it attempts to
connect because this hardware is so slow.  I'm saying it's slow.  I wonder
if it's so slow that it's not responding as fast as ath_hal wants it to
respond whenever it decides to rescan for channels.  I know that such
problems can sometimes be solved with sysctls or adjustment of constants.

Would anyone have any suggestions?

The wireless card is a DWL-G650 pccard, revision B2
pciconf -vlbc says this about it:
ath0@pci0:2:0:0:        class=0x020000 card=0x32021186 chip=0x0013168c 
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
     vendor     = 'Atheros Communications Inc.'
     device     = 'AR5212, AR5213 802.11a/b/g Wireless Adapter'
     class      = network
     subclass   = ethernet
     bar   [10] = type Memory, range 32, base 0x88000000, size 65536, 
enabled
     cap 01[44] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0

From mkhitrov at gmail.com  Tue May  5 17:39:58 2009
From: mkhitrov at gmail.com (Maxim Khitrov)
Date: Tue May  5 17:40:06 2009
Subject: Measuring CPU usage via SNMP
Message-ID: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Simple question - does the sum of differences in ssCpuRawIdle,
ssCpuRawUser, ssCpuRawNice, ssCpuRawKernel, and ssCpuRawInterrupt OIDs
on a FreeBSD 7.2 system give me total CPU allocation (i.e. is a
constant)? I've configured a few scripts to read these values from
bsnmpd, store them via rrdtool, and then generate a single graph with
idle on the negative y axis and everything else stacked on top. I want
to make sure that no other counter is missing from this ensemble and
the ones listed do not overlap. If either of those conditions is not
met, my usage percent calculation will not be accurate.

The OIDs that I left out are:

ssCpuRawSoftIRQ - documentation states that this is for Linux only,
but FreeBSD 7.2 does provide a value for it
ssCpuRawWait - always 0?
ssCpuRawSystem - seems to be a sum of ssCpuRawKernel and ssCpuRawInterrupt

As far as I can tell, these three do not factor into the equation. The
only one I'm not sure about is ssCpuRawSystem. Is there ever a time
when it will not equal to ssCpuRawKernel + ssCpuRawInterrupt?

Thanks for your help,
Max
From freebsd at optiksecurite.com  Tue May  5 17:50:20 2009
From: freebsd at optiksecurite.com (Martin Turgeon)
Date: Tue May  5 17:50:29 2009
Subject: Upgrading jails to 7.2-RELEASE with freebsd-update
In-Reply-To: <200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <4A005D46.5010809@optiksecurite.com>
	<200905051826.09616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <4A007C66.3010408@optiksecurite.com>

Mel Flynn a ?crit :
> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 17:37:42 Martin Turgeon wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> It's the first time I'm using freebsd-update to upgrade my system to a
>> new release. I just upgraded the base system from 7.1-RELEASE to
>> 7.2-RELEASE and everything went fine. I now wanted to upgrade my jails
>> to the new release but freebsd-update is telling me that's already
>> updated...
>>
>> freebsd-update -b /usr/jail/mysql/ upgrade -r 7.2-RELEASE
>> freebsd-update: Cannot upgrade from 7.2-RELEASE to itself
> 
> Should be able to trick it using:
> env UNAME_r=7.1-RELEASE-p5 freebsd-update -b /path/to/jail
> 
> (based on a quick source scan, untested).

Thanks for your answer, it worked great!

But, I'm still wondering why this is necessary? I didn't have to do this 
last time.

Thanks for the info,

Martin
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 18:04:21 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 18:04:28 2009
Subject: Apache errors.
In-Reply-To: <49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk>
References: <20090503120018.6ED6110656FD@hub.freebsd.org>
	<20090504054840inode@frozen-zone.org>
	<49FEF42E.30700@rakupottery.org.uk>
Message-ID: <200905052004.15000.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Monday 04 May 2009 15:57:02 Martin Smith wrote:
> Armin Pirkovitsch wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Have you tried to recompile the port from which that library came?
> > (pkg_info -W /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 should help you finding
> > the correct port if you do not know which port that is)
> >
> > Armin
> >
> > On Sun 03 May 2009, Jeff Molofee wrote:
> >> Just started getting this.. can anyone tell me how to fix it?
> >>
> >> Performing sanity check on apache22 configuration:
> >> httpd: Syntax error on line 104 of /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf:
> >> Cannot load /usr/local/libexec/apache22/mod_dnssd.so into server:
> >> /usr/local/lib/libavahi-common.so.3: Undefined symbol
> >> "libintl_bindtextdomain"
>
> Now I have the same problem so I went to recompile avahi-app, did rmconfig
> and then make config, it said no user config options, or something very
> similar.
> So where to now?

Rebuild gettext, then avahi. The bindtextdomain is from gettext. If that don't 
help, disable mod_dnssd and ping avahi/apache maintainers. Most users don't 
need this module. It is used to advertise your http server to the local 
network, just in case you have it on another port.

gnome-user-share and as such x11/gnome2 finds it necessary to install this 
stuff. Only way to get rid of it, seems to be to install gnome2-lite and then 
pick what extras you do want.
-- 
Mel
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 18:10:29 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 18:10:36 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www
	projects
In-Reply-To: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>
References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>
Message-ID: <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
> I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and
> extract a lists of well known
> web projects (yoomla, wordpress etc), extract the installed version
> number and match it against
> a database of known vulnerabilities. Similiar to portaudit, but then for
> the standard scripts users
> install themselves. I was unable to find such a program in the ports.
>
> Does such an utilities exists for FreeBSD ?

Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current.
There's 2 good policies for this kind of thing:
- Don't allow any plugins of any kind to be installed via CMS/Gallery software 
etc. and deal with the complaints
- Put them in a seperate jail and make sure client understands he's 
responsible for getting hacked and loosing hours of work by installing unsafe 
plugins.

-- 
Mel
From freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org  Tue May  5 18:23:43 2009
From: freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
Date: Tue May  5 18:23:57 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <OF0AD0F8C7.F7AF9F33-ON852575AC.0051DDF6-852575AC.0054AB65@nyx.com>
	(Eddie Chen's message of "Mon\, 4 May 2009 11\:24\:48 -0400")
References: <OF0AD0F8C7.F7AF9F33-ON852575AC.0051DDF6-852575AC.0054AB65@nyx.com>
Message-ID: <44tz3z4dee.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>

Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>     I am looking of implementing FTP return code checking after a command
> is issued
>     If the FTP command return   "code"   not equal from return code to be
> check,  EXIT 255.
>
>     Command:   "? nnn". Where "nnn" is the return code to be check.

I'm afraid that I don't understand your question.
Are you looking for an FTP client that will provide specific return
codes for specific errors?
Are you looking for the error codes for a specific FTP client?
Are you looking for help scripting your use of an FTP client?

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
		http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 18:25:39 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 18:25:45 2009
Subject: Poor ZFS performance
In-Reply-To: <e2fbd2a10905031707w572f956s53af85cb126ddd6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2fbd2a10905011639x475c1fbex92508493449bff51@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FC10DE.9000401@isafeelin.org>
	<e2fbd2a10905031707w572f956s53af85cb126ddd6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905052025.36255.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Monday 04 May 2009 02:07:41 nf wrote:
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk
>
> <frederique@isafeelin.org> wrote:
> > nf wrote:
> >> 733843456 bytes transferred in 61.124812 secs (12005656 bytes/sec)
> >
> > That is very low. I get about 60MB/sec in this way. Adding bs=1m it'll go
> > up to 240MB/sec even (raidz1 with 4*1TB).
> >
> > Could you show top -S ?
>
> I will, the next time I experience the issue.
>
> I had already rebooted the box, which immediately alleviated the
> issue. I can only presume, at this point, that it seems to have been
> related to the 2gb of allocated/active memory shown by top. I had no
> memory intensive apps running, merely an idle lighttpd, mysqld, and
> rtorrent (which only occupied about 90mb).

There's a thread or 2 on -current list about ZFS arc cache growth, that you 
may or may not be seeing as well.

<http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?id=20090417145024.205173ighmwi4j0o@webmail.leidinger.net&db=mid>
-- 
Mel
From freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org  Tue May  5 18:33:29 2009
From: freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
Date: Tue May  5 18:33:35 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
In-Reply-To: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk> (Marc Coyles's
	message of "Tue\, 5 May 2009 10\:39\:27 +0100")
References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>
Message-ID: <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>

"Marc Coyles" <mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk> writes:

> I've got a script that dumps various filesystems to tape for me, but
> I've always had an issue whenever I've used the -L option... see below:
>
> /usr/bin/mt rewind
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /
> dump: Cannot create //.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
>
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /home
> mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
> dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
>
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /tmp
> dump: Cannot create /tmp/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
>
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /usr
> dump: Cannot create /usr/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
>
> /sbin/dump 0aLuf /dev/sa0 /var
> dump: Cannot create /var/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
>
> /usr/bin/mt rewind
>
>
> The .snap folders exist at all points, are set to root:operator, with
> perms 770... 
> The dump_snapshot files seem to be present, albeit 0 bytes,
> root:operator, perms 400...
>
> Running 7.0-RELEASE-p11...
>
> Any suggestions?

Wow.  That's strange.  I've never seen anything like it.  

One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files, because
they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so they
shouldn't be sticking around.

Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc.

And consider the permissions you're running dump with.

Good luck.
-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
		http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
From frederique at isafeelin.org  Tue May  5 18:47:26 2009
From: frederique at isafeelin.org (Frederique Rijsdijk)
Date: Tue May  5 18:47:33 2009
Subject: Shopping for external harddrive
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905050622h175df3e9ve8fbf35e2877ee2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0089B9.7050201@isafeelin.org>

Daniel Underwood wrote:
> I'm looking to purchase a >= 1TB external harddrive, because I'm
> running out of room on my 300GB external.  Anyone have good experience
> with any particular brands?  I really don't know how different brands
> compare in reliability to one another.  Of course I plan to check CNet
> and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks
> have personal recommendations.
> 

1TB samsung USB drive, use it for backups. The drive is an "ECO" 
version, spinning at 5400rpm. That keeps the temperature down. Works nicely.


-- F
From yavuz.maslak at netiletisim.net  Tue May  5 18:35:35 2009
From: yavuz.maslak at netiletisim.net (=?utf-8?Q?Yavuz_Ma=C5=9Flak?=)
Date: Tue May  5 19:02:12 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
References: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
	<20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org>
Message-ID: <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002>

First I am sorry writing folders instead of files.
as far as I see diff command compares differences line by line between 2 
files

That's to say,
File a
orange
blue
yellow

File b
yellow
blue
orange

diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b
orange                                                        <
blue                                                          <
                                                              > blue
                                                              > orange


as above you see,  A and B files contains the same strings but their's lines 
are different
I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in 
different lines.


> First of all I suppose you're talking about 2 files, not folders.
> In which case the command you're using isn't looking so bad since it
> shows the differences between file "a" and file "b":
>
> > diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b
> abcde                                                         | xyasz
>
> But since you do not seem to be happy with the output - what should it
> look like?
>
> Armin
>
> On Tue 05 May 2009, Yavuz Ma?lak wrote:
>
>> I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as
>> following;
>> File A:
>> abcde
>> 12345
>> etc.
>>
>> File B:
>> xyzas
>> 12345
>> etc
>>
>> As above some strings are same and some strings are different.
>> There are several differents between these two files.
>>
>> When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 >
>> fileresult"   like I couldn't result right.
>> How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
>>
>> Which command do I need to use ?
>
> -- 
> Armin Pirkovitsch
> a.pirko@inode.at
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
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From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 19:08:01 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 19:08:08 2009
Subject: kernel errors - watchdog timeout
In-Reply-To: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26b281ee0905010712n67847ad9v3cd47d85fc34974d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905052107.57923.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Friday 01 May 2009 16:12:50 Seur Bors wrote:

> I'm constantly getting the following repeated in my /var/log/messages:
>
> kernel: re0: watchdog timeout
> kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
> kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
>
> This was happening right from the get-go on new hardware running
> 7.1-Release-p4, but only happened infrequently. Apparently as well,
> although everything seems to be working, the server seems to be responding
> very sluggish (over 10 minutes to work with a 1MB file through a Samba
> share, no exageration on the time).
>
> Can someone point me to required reading for these types of networking
> errors?

DIAGNOSTICS
...
     re(4):
     re%d: watchdog timeout  The device has stopped responding to the network,
     or there is a problem with the network connection (cable).

In short: cable or hardware. If you're sure this is not the case, you should 
file a PR and mention you switched out cables and (if possible) the card.
-- 
Mel
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 19:13:02 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 19:13:54 2009
Subject: PostgreSQL 8.3.7 builds incomplete
In-Reply-To: <200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net>
References: <d356c5630904291139u15f253caj5b3ff502266b4046@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630904291153l118e00fby734661833c5d4bf7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200904292132.n3TLWaYo090885@asarian-host.net>
Message-ID: <200905052112.59218.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Wednesday 29 April 2009 23:32:37 Mark wrote:

> I should have looked better, instead of just picking the highest-version
>
> server. Still, makes you wonder, if the postgresql84-server port is so
>
> incredibly broken, why even include it?

It's a "repo copy stub" for the forthcoming release, that the maintainer 
really should've marked as broken, until he and PostgreSQL is done with it.
-- 
Mel
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Tue May  5 19:20:12 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Tue May  5 19:20:20 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBAE@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

I could write something in perl, but don't know if anything exists or not.

----- Original Message -----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Tue May 05 13:35:22 2009
Subject: Re: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?

First I am sorry writing folders instead of files.
as far as I see diff command compares differences line by line between 2 
files

That's to say,
File a
orange
blue
yellow

File b
yellow
blue
orange

diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b
orange                                                        <
blue                                                          <
                                                              > blue
                                                              > orange


as above you see,  A and B files contains the same strings but their's lines 
are different
I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in 
different lines.


> First of all I suppose you're talking about 2 files, not folders.
> In which case the command you're using isn't looking so bad since it
> shows the differences between file "a" and file "b":
>
> > diff --suppress-common-lines -w -y a b
> abcde                                                         | xyasz
>
> But since you do not seem to be happy with the output - what should it
> look like?
>
> Armin
>
> On Tue 05 May 2009, Yavuz Ma?lak wrote:
>
>> I have two folders which contains some expressions in everyline as
>> following;
>> File A:
>> abcde
>> 12345
>> etc.
>>
>> File B:
>> xyzas
>> 12345
>> etc
>>
>> As above some strings are same and some strings are different.
>> There are several differents between these two files.
>>
>> When I run diff command "diff --suppress-common-lines -y -w file1 file2 >
>> fileresult"   like I couldn't result right.
>> How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
>>
>> Which command do I need to use ?
>
> -- 
> Armin Pirkovitsch
> a.pirko@inode.at
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From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:23:34 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 19:23:42 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>

Just installed 7.2-RELEASE.  After changing my /etc/ttys to default to
xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press
enter.  My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can
Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Daniel
From frederique at isafeelin.org  Tue May  5 19:43:03 2009
From: frederique at isafeelin.org (Frederique Rijsdijk)
Date: Tue May  5 19:43:11 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org>


Hi,

Daniel Underwood wrote:

> Just installed 7.2-RELEASE.  After changing my /etc/ttys to default to
> xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press
> enter.  My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can
> Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal.

Try adding:

	Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off"

.. to the "ServerLayout" section of your xorg.conf, see if that helps.

See man xorg.conf too.



-- Frederique

From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 19:53:12 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 19:53:19 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A0096C4.2040609@isafeelin.org>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905051253v383db571t26d2c3587c725b8b@mail.gmail.com>

I don't have an xorg.conf file.  When I installed 7.1-RELEASE on this
laptop (exact same machine) I didn't  need to configure an xorg.conf
file.  But I'll certainly try your advice.

Thanks!
From freebsd at edvax.de  Tue May  5 19:56:14 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Tue May  5 19:56:22 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
In-Reply-To: <4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002>
References: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>
	<20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org>
	<4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002>
Message-ID: <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:35:22 +0300, Yavuz Ma?lak <yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net> wrote:
> First I am sorry writing folders instead of files.

Directories. FreeBSD has directories and files. Please try to
use the correct terminology.



> I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in 
> different lines.

You could first run the files through sort, then diff them.




-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Tue May  5 20:15:40 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Tue May  5 20:15:47 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> Just installed 7.2-RELEASE.  After changing my /etc/ttys to default to
> xdm and rebooting, my machine opens xdm, but I cannot type or press
> enter.  My keyboard isn't totally unresponsive, however, because I can
> Ctrl+Alt+F# to another virtual terminal.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
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>

Could you use your mouse in xdm?

I don't know if this is related; but I couldn't get my mouse to work in KDE
or XFCE4 until I turned on hal.  I added the following to /etc/rc.conf and
rebooted:

dbus_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"

Best of luck,

Andrew
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 20:17:57 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 20:18:04 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, that was it!  I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Tue May  5 20:19:53 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Tue May  5 20:20:00 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yep, that was it!  I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615
>


me too  ;-)
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Tue May  5 20:20:16 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Tue May  5 20:20:23 2009
Subject: How can I extract differences between 2 folders ?
In-Reply-To: <20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <D140D3378E824AC1995B6A6503732D69@desktop2002>	<20090505165621inode@frozen-zone.org>	<4D71445373A74C088A3CDBF3868278A4@desktop2002>
	<20090505215611.c074b710.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <4A009F6C.80009@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Polytropon wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:35:22 +0300, Yavuz Ma?lak <yavuz.maslak@netiletisim.net> wrote:

>> I wish diff or another command not to display same values which are in 
>> different lines.
> 
> You could first run the files through sort, then diff them.

Rather than diff(1), perhaps comm(1) is a better choice.  You still need to
sort the input files though:

   % sort file1 > file1.sorted
   % sort file2 > file2.sorted
   % comm -3 file1.sorted file2.sorted

This will print two columns of output.  The first column consists of lines
that are only in file1, and the second of lines that are only in file2.

	Cheers,

	Matthew


-- 
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From freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl  Tue May  5 20:41:15 2009
From: freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl (Jeroen Hofstee)
Date: Tue May  5 20:41:27 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource
	www	projects
In-Reply-To: <200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>
	<200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <4A00A467.9060506@virtualhost.nl>

Mel Flynn schreef:
> On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
>  
>> I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and
>> extract a lists of well known web projects (joomla, wordpress etc)
> Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current.
>   
k, pitty. Although user can be jailed, it is still a bit unconfortable 
experience for users if their website looks
somewhat different then they are used to; or their message board 
suddenly contains 20000 additional post,
albeit due to their own lack of maintaining the scripts behind it. A 
reminder that their script has known
vulnerabities would therefore be nice, even if it doesn't pose a direct 
risk to the system as a whole.

Most of these open source projects are in the ports, so the portaudit db 
will contain vulnerability information
for them. If I find time, I will have a look if it is possible to match 
against that db.

Jeroen



From sonicy at otenet.gr  Tue May  5 21:01:50 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Tue May  5 21:01:57 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>

Andrew Gould wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>   
>> Yep, that was it!  I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615
>>
>>     
>
>
> me too  ;-)
>   

Taking this opportunity, allow me to remind to everyone that the
Handbook is always "work in progress" and it is always useful to check
again sections that you have already read, as new info is added
regularly. This latest addition to the Handbook was in fact inspired by
questions and info appearing on this same list :)
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 21:04:32 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 21:04:39 2009
Subject: Where am I wasting resources? How to fix this problem?
In-Reply-To: <C5DE5F96-37D2-4CE0-81EC-39BEF09FC04F@mac.com>
References: <2cd0a0da0904280122x5416837re97255dc37283dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<2cd0a0da0904301202n1edaea1du5bba7e8b34266d70@mail.gmail.com>
	<C5DE5F96-37D2-4CE0-81EC-39BEF09FC04F@mac.com>
Message-ID: <200905052304.28141.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 30 April 2009 21:49:13 Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Hi, VeeJay--
>
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 12:02 PM, VeeJay wrote:
> > Guys, I am not very good on freebsd, its you guys who help me to
> > keeping my
> > server up... I hope you can spare a few minutes to sort this
> > problem...
> >
> > last pid: 19656;  load averages:  1.00,  1.00,
> > 1.00
> > up 2+05:00:12  19:18:47
> > 3049 processes:2 running, 3047 sleeping
> > CPU: 12.5% user,  0.0% nice,  0.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 87.4% idle
> > Mem: 6253M Active, 3810M Inact, 921M Wired, 128K Cache, 214M Buf,
> > 4683M Free
> > Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free
> >
> > PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
> > COMMAND
> > 830 mysql      1500  44    0  1670M   813M ucond  1   0:00 100.00%
> > mysqld
>
> It sure looks like you're running into a system limit with the maximum
> # of threads available to the mysql process.

There's no such limit, see pthread_create(3) and pthread.h:
#define PTHREAD_THREADS_MAX                     __ULONG_MAX

but the 1500 is suspicious. Suspicious enough to be a MySQL configuration 
value or compile time option. The only way to get to the bottom of it, is to 
watch the number of threads in the mysql process and attach ktrace to it the 
moment it approaches 1500, to see if pthread_create actually does return 
EAGAIN and get a hint as to where. My suspicion however is that the thread 
abstraction of MySQL sets EAGAIN.

A my.cnf certainly would help.
-- 
Mel
From freebsd at wcubed.net  Tue May  5 21:07:15 2009
From: freebsd at wcubed.net (Brad Waite)
Date: Tue May  5 21:07:22 2009
Subject: watchdog questions
Message-ID: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net>

I need some help understanding FreeBSD's kernel watchdog functionality.  I've
been reading up, and here's what I think I understand (correct me if I'm wrong):

If a watchdog timer is set in the kernel and not reset or disabled within the
time given, the kernel reboots the system.

'watchdog -t <n>' starts a watchdog for n seconds.  Runing watchdog(8) again in
<n seconds, resets the timer.  If 'watchdog -t 0' is run, the kernel disables
the watchdog.

watchdogd(8) either runs stat(2) on /etc, or a user-defined cmd (with -e), and
resets the watchdog only on a zero exit code.

There's a few things that aren't clear, though:

How many watchdog timers can be enabled at a given time?  If more than one,
does a single 'watchdog -t 0' disable all timers?

Upon timer expiration, can the kernel be configured to do anything OTHER than
rebooting?

Is it the general idea that watchdog(8) would be run in a script, making sure
the script doesn't hang?  And that watchdogd(8) is run to ensure the entire
system doesn't hang?


From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Tue May  5 21:13:51 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Tue May  5 21:13:58 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www
	projects
In-Reply-To: <4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl>
References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>
	<200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
	<4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl>
Message-ID: <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 22:04:27 Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
> Mel Flynn schreef:
> > On Saturday 02 May 2009 14:50:14 Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
> >> I tried to find a program which could scan the local filesystem and
> >> extract a lists of well known web projects (joomla, wordpress etc)
> >
> > Not that I'm aware of and it's hell to write and keep current.
>
> k, pitty. Although user can be jailed, it is still a bit unconfortable
> experience for users if their website looks
> somewhat different then they are used to; or their message board
> suddenly contains 20000 additional post,
> albeit due to their own lack of maintaining the scripts behind it. A
> reminder that their script has known
> vulnerabities would therefore be nice, even if it doesn't pose a direct
> risk to the system as a whole.

I understand the problem.

> Most of these open source projects are in the ports, so the portaudit db
> will contain vulnerability information
> for them. If I find time, I will have a look if it is possible to match
> against that db.

You can do that, the issue is plugins:
0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed
1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta
2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin handling
3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan
4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now is 
insecure.

Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days.
-- 
Mel
From echen at nyx.com  Tue May  5 21:26:01 2009
From: echen at nyx.com (Eddie Chen)
Date: Tue May  5 21:26:09 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <44tz3z4dee.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
Message-ID: <OF75C323D8.E37280AE-ON852575AD.007205BE-852575AD.00731054@nyx.com>





Lowell,

   I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code.

   However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it.
   It's actually trivial to implement this feature.

   If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client.

   Thanks.




                                                                           
                Lowell Gilbert                                             
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             s-local@be-well.i                                          To 
             lk.org>                   Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com>          
                                                                        cc 
                05/05/2009             freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org       
             02:23 PM                                              Subject 
                                       Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP     
                                                                           
             Please respond to                                             
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Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>     I am looking of implementing FTP return code checking after a command
> is issued
>     If the FTP command return   "code"   not equal from return code to be
> check,  EXIT 255.
>
>     Command:   "? nnn". Where "nnn" is the return code to be check.

I'm afraid that I don't understand your question.
Are you looking for an FTP client that will provide specific return
codes for specific errors?
Are you looking for the error codes for a specific FTP client?
Are you looking for help scripting your use of an FTP client?

--
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                         http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/




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From yuri at rawbw.com  Tue May  5 21:47:40 2009
From: yuri at rawbw.com (Yuri)
Date: Tue May  5 21:47:46 2009
Subject: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to
 achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping?
Message-ID: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com>

I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD.
How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives?

Any experiences?

Thank you,
Yuri

From dnelson at allantgroup.com  Tue May  5 21:55:43 2009
From: dnelson at allantgroup.com (Dan Nelson)
Date: Tue May  5 21:55:51 2009
Subject: Measuring CPU usage via SNMP
In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26ddd1750905051039y67bed9a5g6e1419b57b9e74fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090505215539.GE3371@dan.emsphone.com>

In the last episode (May 05), Maxim Khitrov said:
> Simple question - does the sum of differences in ssCpuRawIdle,
> ssCpuRawUser, ssCpuRawNice, ssCpuRawKernel, and ssCpuRawInterrupt OIDs on
> a FreeBSD 7.2 system give me total CPU allocation (i.e.  is a constant)? 
> I've configured a few scripts to read these values from bsnmpd, store them
> via rrdtool, and then generate a single graph with idle on the negative y
> axis and everything else stacked on top.  I want to make sure that no
> other counter is missing from this ensemble and the ones listed do not
> overlap.  If either of those conditions is not met, my usage percent
> calculation will not be accurate.
> 
> The OIDs that I left out are:
> 
> ssCpuRawSoftIRQ - documentation states that this is for Linux only,
> but FreeBSD 7.2 does provide a value for it
> ssCpuRawWait - always 0?
> ssCpuRawSystem - seems to be a sum of ssCpuRawKernel and ssCpuRawInterrupt
> 
> As far as I can tell, these three do not factor into the equation. The
> only one I'm not sure about is ssCpuRawSystem.  Is there ever a time when
> it will not equal to ssCpuRawKernel + ssCpuRawInterrupt?

The nice thing about open source software is you can read the source and see
what's going on :)  The FreeBSD kernel statclock() function:

http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/kern/kern_clock.c#L442

updates the cp_time[] array, and it increments one of CP_NICE, CP_USER,
CP_INTR, CP_SYS, and CP_IDLE on each tick.  

The Net-SNMP var_extensible_vmstat() function:

http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/net-snmp/trunk/net-snmp/agent/mibgroup/ucd-snmp/vmstat_freebsd2.c?revision=HEAD&view=markup#l_165

fetches that array and maps those indexes to CPURAWNICE, CPURAWUSER,
CPURAWINTR, CPURAWKERNEL, and CPURAWIDLE.  So fetching the matching
ssCpuRaw* oids and totaling them up should always equal 100% cpu.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com
From sonicy at otenet.gr  Tue May  5 21:57:15 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Tue May  5 21:57:22 2009
Subject: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able
 to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping?
In-Reply-To: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com>
References: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com>
Message-ID: <4A00B638.9080400@otenet.gr>

Yuri wrote:
> I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD.
> How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives?
>
> Any experiences?
>
> Thank you,
> Yuri
>

Highly unscientific measurement here, but I seem to be getting a max of
~160 MB/s by striping two Seagate 500Gb drives.
From freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl  Tue May  5 22:15:11 2009
From: freebsd.questions at virtualhost.nl (Jeroen Hofstee)
Date: Tue May  5 22:15:18 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource
	www	projects
In-Reply-To: <200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>	<200905052010.26393.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>	<4A009BCB.9070700@virtualhost.nl>
	<200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <4A00BA6C.2070307@virtualhost.nl>

Mel Flynn schreef:
> You can do that, the issue is plugins:
> 0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed
> 1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta
> 2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin 
> handling
> 3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan
> 4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now 
> is insecure.
>
> Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days.
>   
I understand that there are allot of caveats and that is quite some work 
to create a full blown checker, especially with
plugins. But as far as I am corcerned, finding the easy to locate 
vultnerable script is already better then doing nothing.

Jeroen
From freebsd at edvax.de  Tue May  5 23:24:40 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Tue May  5 23:24:48 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Wed, 06 May 2009 00:01:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias <sonicy@otenet.gr> wrote:
> Taking this opportunity, allow me to remind to everyone that the
> Handbook is always "work in progress" and it is always useful to check
> again sections that you have already read, as new info is added
> regularly. This latest addition to the Handbook was in fact inspired by
> questions and info appearing on this same list :)

A very polite addition of mine:

It's always wise to study /usr/ports/UPDATING, a file that
explains the reasons when your system suddenly went nuts. :-)


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 23:32:57 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 23:33:04 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
	<20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>

I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your
ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2
(not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be
very helpful.
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Tue May  5 23:45:04 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Tue May  5 23:45:11 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
	<20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your
> ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2
> (not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be
> very helpful.
>

It's good, general advice.  There are UPDATING files in various places for
various updates, I think, including /usr/src/.

It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your
data."

(That one never gets old!)

:-)

Andrew
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May  5 23:53:48 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May  5 23:53:56 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
	<20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <446D16A7-AF69-405C-913D-9EFA304E9616@gmail.com>

Absolutely!

(Sent from my iPhone)

On May 5, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Daniel Underwood  
> <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought /usr/ports/UPDATING is only created when you appraise your
> ports with a view toward updating. I.e, after a fresh install of 7.2
> (not an upgrade from 7.1), I didn't think the UPDATING file would be
> very helpful.
>
> It's good, general advice.  There are UPDATING files in various  
> places for various updates, I think, including /usr/src/.
>
> It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up  
> your data."
>
> (That one never gets old!)
>
> :-)
>
> Andrew
From freebsd at edvax.de  Wed May  6 00:22:04 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Wed May  6 00:22:11 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
	<20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:45:02 -0500, Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's good, general advice.  There are UPDATING files in various places for
> various updates, I think, including /usr/src/.

At least according to the history of problems with X that
appeared on this list, /usr/ports/UPDATING hasn't received
the attention it should. Things like the "empty inputs" and
the crazy DBUS & HAL stuff has been mentioned there.

I didn't update my X yet, so I will have all this trouble
in the future. :-)



> It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your
> data."

Customer: "I've just done a new Word document, saved it, then
	accidentally deleted it. Is there anything you can do
	to get it back?"
Tech Support: "Sorry, no, the backup isn't run until night time."
Customer: "Ohh, can we restore it tomorrow, then?"

:-)


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From agus.262 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 00:42:48 2009
From: agus.262 at gmail.com (Agus)
Date: Wed May  6 00:42:55 2009
Subject: Problem with edquotas
Message-ID: <fda61bb50905051742y7f7414e6j31e08172fb51088f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

Im having an issue while trying to  use edquota.... I've been using it
for months with no problemss... but now when i use it the quota aint
assigned.. adn i get no error soo.. i sunno where to start looking....

6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #0:

In /home

-rw-r--r--   1 root   operator    29G May  5 21:37 quota.user

if i use edquota net1 i can add the quotas.. save and then
#quota net1
Disk quotas for user net1 (uid 10889): none

Any hints appreciatte....

Thanks guys
From freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org  Wed May  6 00:56:34 2009
From: freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
Date: Wed May  6 00:56:40 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <OF75C323D8.E37280AE-ON852575AD.007205BE-852575AD.00731054@nyx.com>
	(Eddie Chen's message of "Tue\, 5 May 2009 16\:56\:46 -0400")
References: <OF75C323D8.E37280AE-ON852575AD.007205BE-852575AD.00731054@nyx.com>
Message-ID: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>

Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>    I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code.
>
>    However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it.
>    It's actually trivial to implement this feature.
>
>    If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client.

I've never used return codes with ftp(1),
but I have used them with fetch(1), which
is also part of the base system.

Have you tried fetch?  If it doesn't meet
your needs, can you explain why?

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
		http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Wed May  6 01:25:16 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Wed May  6 01:25:23 2009
Subject: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
In-Reply-To: <20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <b6c05a470905051223q44185421u453d3e734b183d8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051315n33d4b2e6kd34b5def792ac7bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905051317l2c7d55bfiac14cb97e74ac6f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051319l207901a0h2c63dee619323569@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A00A93B.4080600@otenet.gr>
	<20090506012428.8f793949.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905051632v2e16878aw30f673c25c1af235@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905051645y49747bd3i8bface82d23241a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090506022157.57174896.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905051825w3d5a3de4p39f0b00fdd29f188@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:

> On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:45:02 -0500, Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It's good, general advice.  There are UPDATING files in various places
> for
> > various updates, I think, including /usr/src/.
>
> At least according to the history of problems with X that
> appeared on this list, /usr/ports/UPDATING hasn't received
> the attention it should. Things like the "empty inputs" and
> the crazy DBUS & HAL stuff has been mentioned there.
>
> I didn't update my X yet, so I will have all this trouble
> in the future. :-)
>
>
>
> > It's almost as good as.....(wait for it)......" and always back up your
> > data."
>
> Customer: "I've just done a new Word document, saved it, then
>        accidentally deleted it. Is there anything you can do
>        to get it back?"
> Tech Support: "Sorry, no, the backup isn't run until night time."
> Customer: "Ohh, can we restore it tomorrow, then?"
>

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry over this one.  ;-)


>
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
> From Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
>
From mike at sentex.net  Wed May  6 02:17:23 2009
From: mike at sentex.net (mike@sentex.net)
Date: Wed May  6 02:17:30 2009
Subject: watchdog questions
In-Reply-To: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net>
References: <4A00AA73.8080101@wcubed.net>
Message-ID: <6nr1051kvjm0gh1inhl7ci88u0e8qcp9nk@4ax.com>

On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:06:59 -0600, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:


>
>'watchdog -t <n>' starts a watchdog for n seconds.  Runing watchdog(8) again in
><n seconds, resets the timer.  If 'watchdog -t 0' is run, the kernel disables
>the watchdog.
>
>watchdogd(8) either runs stat(2) on /etc, or a user-defined cmd (with -e), and
>resets the watchdog only on a zero exit code.
>
>There's a few things that aren't clear, though:
>
>How many watchdog timers can be enabled at a given time?  If more than one,
>does a single 'watchdog -t 0' disable all timers?
Hi,
	A single timer.  If you want to disable the daemon and disarm
it, just kill off the daemon


>
>Upon timer expiration, can the kernel be configured to do anything OTHER than
>rebooting?

Not that I am aware of

>
>Is it the general idea that watchdog(8) would be run in a script, making sure
>the script doesn't hang?  And that watchdogd(8) is run to ensure the entire
>system doesn't hang?

Yes, that can be done.  One thing we do for some of our embedded
devices is use the watchdog facility as a "safe way to reboot" the
system.  If we detect a state where we should not be in, we do a

 killall -9 watchdogd

... As as way to ensure the device will reboot.  Note, we have
everything mounted ro so we dont have to worry about file system
issues.

Does the platform you are using support hardware watchdogs ?

	---Mike

From vuthecuong at luvina.net  Wed May  6 02:54:56 2009
From: vuthecuong at luvina.net (vuthecuong)
Date: Wed May  6 02:55:03 2009
Subject: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8
Message-ID: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com>


Hi all
I just did a clean install of freebsd 7.2 final release (I not enable linux
compatibility during install).
In first boot, I enabled linux compatibilitty  with linux_base-fc8 as below:
====================================
Add linux_enable=?YES? to /etc/rc.conf.
Add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf.
Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf.
Add this line to /etc/fstab:
linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0
mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc
mount /usr/compat/linux/proc
/etc/rc.d/abi start
/etc/rc.d/sysctl start
cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean
====================================

When 'make install clean' in port 'linux_base-f8', I saw that it retrieved
files (rpm etc) from 
fc8 directory on the net. However, when I install net/skype, I saw that it
retrieved files (rpm etc)
from fc4 on the net (sorry for my bad English).
(I still not installed X yet so I cannot very fied my skype will run fine or
not).
So my question is: is it normal or abnormal when 'make install ' retrieved
files (rpm etc)
from fc4, not from fc8 althought I already enabled linux_base-f8?

If it is abnormal, how can I solve it?
Thanks and regards





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From on at cs.ait.ac.th  Wed May  6 02:55:27 2009
From: on at cs.ait.ac.th (Olivier Nicole)
Date: Wed May  6 02:55:34 2009
Subject: Xdvi with amd64
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031030431.1742@qemg.org> (message from
	Andrew Wright on Sun, 3 May 2009 10:34:31 -0300 (ADT))
References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031030431.1742@qemg.org>
Message-ID: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>

HI Andrew,

> Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with?  I can tell you
> whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1.

Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk

The error message is:

    $ xdvi memo
    Note:  overstrike characters may be incorrect.
>>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored:  char. 68, font cmr10
    $

Any other font will give the same error message for one character or
another.

Thanks for the help,

olivier
From on at cs.ait.ac.th  Wed May  6 03:01:10 2009
From: on at cs.ait.ac.th (Olivier Nicole)
Date: Wed May  6 03:01:16 2009
Subject: Xdvi with amd64
In-Reply-To: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> (message from
	Olivier Nicole on Mon, 4 May 2009 09:12:02 +0700 (ICT))
References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031030431.1742@qemg.org>
	<200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
Message-ID: <200905060300.n46304bC094059@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>

Hi,

> > Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with?  I can tell you
> > whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1.
> 
> Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk
> 
> The error message is:
> 
>     $ xdvi memo
>     Note:  overstrike characters may be incorrect.
> >>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored:  char. 68, font cmr10
>     $
> 
> Any other font will give the same error message for one character or
> another.

After trying on 7.1 and having the same problem, I resolve to install
from the source the latest version of xdvi and the installation went
fine.

Bests,

olivier
From amvandemore at gmail.com  Wed May  6 03:08:01 2009
From: amvandemore at gmail.com (Adam Vande More)
Date: Wed May  6 03:08:07 2009
Subject: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8
In-Reply-To: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com>

vuthecuong wrote:
> Hi all
> I just did a clean install of freebsd 7.2 final release (I not enable linux
> compatibility during install).
> In first boot, I enabled linux compatibilitty  with linux_base-fc8 as below:
> ====================================
> Add linux_enable=?YES? to /etc/rc.conf.
> Add compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 to /etc/sysctl.conf.
> Add OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8 to /etc/make.conf.
> Add this line to /etc/fstab:
> linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0
> mkdir -p /usr/compat/linux/proc
> mount /usr/compat/linux/proc
> /etc/rc.d/abi start
> /etc/rc.d/sysctl start
> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f8 && make install clean
> ====================================
>
> When 'make install clean' in port 'linux_base-f8', I saw that it retrieved
> files (rpm etc) from 
> fc8 directory on the net. However, when I install net/skype, I saw that it
> retrieved files (rpm etc)
> from fc4 on the net (sorry for my bad English).
> (I still not installed X yet so I cannot very fied my skype will run fine or
> not).
> So my question is: is it normal or abnormal when 'make install ' retrieved
> files (rpm etc)
> from fc4, not from fc8 althought I already enabled linux_base-f8?
>
> If it is abnormal, how can I solve it?
> Thanks and regards
>
>   
If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf

USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8
OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8

That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING
From vuthecuong at luvina.net  Wed May  6 03:12:51 2009
From: vuthecuong at luvina.net (vuthecuong)
Date: Wed May  6 03:12:58 2009
Subject: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8
In-Reply-To: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com>
References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23399321.post@talk.nabble.com>




vuthecuong wrote:

If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf

USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8
OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8

That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING
/quote>
Wow, thanks for very fast reply. I understood that I was still missing some
variables in my make.conf
as you stated above.

Btw I just reconfirmed for sure only:
This means, if I installed linux_base-fc8 correctly, when I install
net/skype, this port 'must'
retrieve rpm files etc from fc8 directory over the net, right?
cool thanks

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From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Wed May  6 05:30:15 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Wed May  6 05:30:21 2009
Subject: local security scanner for vulnerable common opensource www
	projects
In-Reply-To: <4A00B728.3000509@virtualhost.nl>
References: <49FC4186.80608@virtualhost.nl>
	<200905052313.47805.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
	<4A00B728.3000509@virtualhost.nl>
Message-ID: <200905060730.10672.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 00:01:12 Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
> Mel Flynn schreef:
> > You can do that, the issue is plugins:
> > 0) SuperCMS v 1.0 installed
> > 1) CoolStuff via webinterface, by SuperCMSNr1Fan, version 0.1.0.1beta
> > 2) SuperCMS v 1.0.1 security release, changes some issues with plugin
> > handling 3) CoolStuff's maintainer is now known as CompetitorCMSNr1Fan
> > 4) CoolStuff still works, because of backwards compatibility, but now is
> > insecure.
> >
> > Stuff like this goes back to the phpNukeYourSite days.
>
> I understand that there are allot of caveats and that is quite some work
> to create a full blown checker, especially with
> plugins. But as far as I am corcerned, finding the easy to locate
> vultnerable script is already better then doing nothing.

Agreed, as long as the client does not assume you are responsible. Portaudit 
will go a long way then. Which version of a plugin is installed is not always 
available in the file system, some store that in the database.
To ease your work, you may want to replace custom installed software with the 
corresponding port if available. This will go for a lot of stuff, including 
joomla and the various nuke forks. 
-- 
Mel
From apseudoutopia at gmail.com  Wed May  6 06:20:23 2009
From: apseudoutopia at gmail.com (APseudoUtopia)
Date: Wed May  6 06:20:30 2009
Subject: HyperThreading
Message-ID: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm running FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE on a dual-core Xeon. It has a custom
compiled SMP kernel, ACPI enabled, with the ULE scheduler.

I've been looking into HyperThreading, and I've come to the conclusion
that I should not use it. I've been told that HTT is disabled by
default, however sysctl and dmesg seems to contradict that:

CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2395.93-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
  Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
  Features2=0x4400<CNXT-ID,xTPR>
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID:  3
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
cpu2: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
cpu3: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!



machdep.hyperthreading_allowed: 1
hw.ncpu: 4
kern.smp.disabled: 0
kern.smp.active: 1


Am I correct to assume that the above means that HTT is enabled?
There is nothing in my loader.conf, sysctl.conf, or kernel config file
related to hyperthreading.

Thanks.
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 06:21:22 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 06:21:30 2009
Subject: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able
 to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping?
In-Reply-To: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com>
References: <4A00B3FA.5050905@rawbw.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905060818230.28367@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD.
> How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives?

mirroring - the same, just with 2 processes reading both can get the 
bandwidth. make sure you use -s high enough (like 1048576) doing gmirror 
label

stripping - the same, or 2,3,4 times, depends how you configure.
for highest transfer and lowest concurrency (you mostly read huge files 
with one process) - use small stripe size.
for lowest transfer (=1 disk) and highest concurency - use very huge 
stripe size like 512MB, so simply different process reading different 
things can hit different drives, but each I/O isn't spread.

From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Wed May  6 08:19:07 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Wed May  6 08:19:14 2009
Subject: move to other subnet
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061013410.40419@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

Just want to check:

If a freebsd7 system is to move to a different subnet
(from ip XXX.YYY.AAA.BBB to XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD)
  same netmask 255.255.255.0
  same hostname myhost.mydomain.mycountry
  same DNS servers

then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes?

defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254"   <---
hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry" 
ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <---

and reboot ?
or is there any other file(s) to change?
From mexas at bristol.ac.uk  Wed May  6 08:32:03 2009
From: mexas at bristol.ac.uk (Anton Shterenlikht)
Date: Wed May  6 08:32:11 2009
Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ?
Message-ID: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>

I've this simple makefile:

VAR=one

all	:	main

main	:
	@echo ${.CURDIR}
.if ${.CURDIR}
	@echo ${VAR}
	VAR=two
	@echo ${VAR}
.endif

When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the
new value "two". Why?

% make
/usr/home/mexas
one
VAR=two
one

And gmake gives an error:

% gmake
makefile:7: *** missing separator.  Stop.
% 

please help
many thanks
anton

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
From on at cs.ait.ac.th  Wed May  6 08:42:53 2009
From: on at cs.ait.ac.th (on@cs.ait.ac.th)
Date: Wed May  6 08:43:26 2009
Subject: move to other subnet
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061013410.40419@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061013410.40419@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <20090506154251.o6zz76tws0sogwso@wwws.cs.ait.ac.th>

Hi,

> then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes?
>
> defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254"   <---
> hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry"
> ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <---
>
> and reboot ?
> or is there any other file(s) to change?

In theory, yes, that changes the IP address of the machine.

But then you may have some services configured to listen to a specific 
IP address, these services will have to be reconfigured too.

Olivier

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From jcigar at ulb.ac.be  Wed May  6 08:44:06 2009
From: jcigar at ulb.ac.be (Julien Cigar)
Date: Wed May  6 08:44:14 2009
Subject: move to other subnet
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061013410.40419@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061013410.40419@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <1241599579.2656.5.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:18 +0200, Pieter Donche wrote:
> Just want to check:
> 
> If a freebsd7 system is to move to a different subnet
> (from ip XXX.YYY.AAA.BBB to XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD)
>   same netmask 255.255.255.0
>   same hostname myhost.mydomain.mycountry
>   same DNS servers
> 
> then /etc/rc.conf is the only file that needs changes?
> 

yes (maybe /etc/hosts too)

> defaultrouter="XXX.YYY.CCC.254"   <---
> hostname="myhost.mydomain.mycountry" 
> ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.YYY.CCC.DDD netmask 255.255.255.0" <---
> 
> and reboot ?

no need to reboot, just #> /etc/rc.d/netif restart

> or is there any other file(s) to change?
> _______________________________________________
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Tel : 02 650 57 52

From mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk  Wed May  6 09:02:06 2009
From: mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk (Marc Coyles)
Date: Wed May  6 09:02:14 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
In-Reply-To: <44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>
	<44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
Message-ID: <009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk>

> One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files,
> because
> they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so
> they
> shouldn't be sticking around.
> 
> Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc.
> 
> And consider the permissions you're running dump with.
> 

Dump is running as root via cron / initiated by hand.
ACLs not used.
Have removed all existing dump_snapshot files, and
have also removed and recreated all .snap directories.

S'now working fine for all mountpoints, except /home...

mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

It doesn't appear to proceed "as normal" either... as you can see below,
it ends the previous dump, starts the /home dump, gets an I/O error,
then proceeds straight to the /usr dump. The /home dump never gets
performed. If I remove the -L option, everything goes thru fine, but
complains about lack of -L flag...

  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE 
mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed May  6 08:30:31 2009
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/da0s1e (/usr) to standard output


Fsck finds no errors on /home... point to note... mksnap_ffs CAN create
/home/.snap/dump_snapshot as I'm sat looking at the file, however, once
it's created it it's as tho it can't access it. The file is there, it
wasn't before I ran the script. It's created it as root:operator, perms
400. I can open it in pico, add content to it, and save it happily. So
I'm baffled!

M



From guru at unixarea.de  Wed May  6 09:10:54 2009
From: guru at unixarea.de (Matthias Apitz)
Date: Wed May  6 09:11:02 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
Message-ID: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>


Hello,

Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400
laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to
reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT
in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some
investigations, or whatever? Thx

If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest
of 50 GByte the Vista again.

	matthias
-- 
Matthias Apitz
Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH
Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
e <matthias.apitz@oclc.org> - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/
People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Wed May  6 09:15:13 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Wed May  6 09:15:20 2009
Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ?
In-Reply-To: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:31:53 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> I've this simple makefile:
>
> VAR=one
>
> all	:	main
>
> main	:
> 	@echo ${.CURDIR}
> .if ${.CURDIR}
> 	@echo ${VAR}
> 	VAR=two
> 	@echo ${VAR}
> .endif
>
> When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the
> new value "two". Why?

Because it is expanded before being passed to the shell. Sh sees:
echo one
VAR=two
echo one

What are you really trying to accomplish?
-- 
Mel
From mexas at bristol.ac.uk  Wed May  6 09:32:21 2009
From: mexas at bristol.ac.uk (Anton Shterenlikht)
Date: Wed May  6 09:32:28 2009
Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ?
In-Reply-To: <200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
	<200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 11:15:07AM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:31:53 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> > I've this simple makefile:
> >
> > VAR=one
> >
> > all	:	main
> >
> > main	:
> > 	@echo ${.CURDIR}
> > .if ${.CURDIR}
> > 	@echo ${VAR}
> > 	VAR=two
> > 	@echo ${VAR}
> > .endif
> >
> > When I output VAR second time, the value is still "one", and not the
> > new value "two". Why?
> 
> Because it is expanded before being passed to the shell. Sh sees:
> echo one
> VAR=two
> echo one
> 
> What are you really trying to accomplish?

I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4.
In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have:

# grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile 
NOT_FOR_ARCHS=  alpha ia64 powerpc
# 

In /etc/make.conf I have:

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*}
NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64
USE_GCC=4.3+
.endif

This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore.
The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built
with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have
to do it manually each time. 

So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then.

many thanks
anton

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
From sonicy at otenet.gr  Wed May  6 10:26:54 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Wed May  6 10:27:02 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
Message-ID: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>

Matthias Apitz wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400
> laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to
> reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT
> in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some
> investigations, or whatever? Thx
>
> If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest
> of 50 GByte the Vista again.
>
> 	matthias
>   
Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> 
Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management.  Right 
click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will 
allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) 
but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install 
FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it 
will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free 
download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu.
From bsam at ipt.ru  Wed May  6 10:29:06 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Wed May  6 10:29:15 2009
Subject: carefull confirm on using linux_base-fc8
In-Reply-To: <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com> (Adam Vande More's message of "Tue\,
	05 May 2009 22\:07\:48 -0500")
References: <23399213.post@talk.nabble.com> <4A00FF04.1050209@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37268590@bb.ipt.ru>

On Tue, 05 May 2009 22:07:48 -0500 Adam Vande More wrote:

> If you intend on using f8, you'll want entries like this in /etc/make.conf

> USE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
> USE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8
> OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=f8
> OVERRIDE_LINUX_NONBASE_PORTS=f8

Actually, only the last two hav to be defined.
FYI: the first two variables were written at
/usr/ports/UPDATING by an accident and fixed
in a day.

> That and other useful information can always be found in /usr/ports/UPDATING

Yep. ;-)

And reading emulation@ mail list about introduction of f8 ports
is also recommended.


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From daniels.vanags at smpbank.lv  Wed May  6 10:44:33 2009
From: daniels.vanags at smpbank.lv (Daniels Vanags)
Date: Wed May  6 10:44:40 2009
Subject: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi
Message-ID: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45135@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>

We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD
Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon
processor.

Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server.
When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted.

Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware.

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

 

Daniel Vanags

Information Technology  Department

IT infrastructure system engineer

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JSC SMP Bank                  www.smpbank.lv

Phone:                                    +371 67019386

E-mail:           Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv
<mailto:Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv> 

 

From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Wed May  6 11:51:20 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Wed May  6 11:51:27 2009
Subject: Do I need both gcc-4.2 and gcc-4.3?
Message-ID: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>

Somehow I've ended up with 2 copies of gcc from ports in addition to 
gcc-3.4 in the base system. 

pkg_info suggests that only gcc-4.3 is needed:

  curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Rx gcc-4
  Information for gcc-4.2.5_20081126:

  Information for gcc-4.3.4_20090419:

  Required by:
  fftw-2.1.5_5

I'm sure I haven't chosen to install fftw-2.1.5_5, and pkg_info -R 
doesn't show any other ports needing it. I was wondering if I could 
safely deinstall fftw and both the gcc-4 packages but wondered if 
pkg_info only shows the run dependencies and not the build 
dependencies. I don't mind the disk space needed but portupgrade 
sometimes results in having to upgrade 2 copies of gcc which is quite 
time consuming.

-- 
Mike Clarke
From mexas at bristol.ac.uk  Wed May  6 12:00:04 2009
From: mexas at bristol.ac.uk (Anton Shterenlikht)
Date: Wed May  6 12:00:13 2009
Subject: Do I need both gcc-4.2 and gcc-4.3?
In-Reply-To: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
References: <200905061251.16859.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090506115956.GA65243@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 12:51:16PM +0100, Mike Clarke wrote:
> Somehow I've ended up with 2 copies of gcc from ports in addition to 
> gcc-3.4 in the base system. 
> 
> pkg_info suggests that only gcc-4.3 is needed:
> 
>   curlew:/home/mike% pkg_info -Rx gcc-4
>   Information for gcc-4.2.5_20081126:
> 
>   Information for gcc-4.3.4_20090419:
> 
>   Required by:
>   fftw-2.1.5_5
> 
> I'm sure I haven't chosen to install fftw-2.1.5_5, and pkg_info -R 
> doesn't show any other ports needing it. I was wondering if I could 
> safely deinstall fftw and both the gcc-4 packages but wondered if 
> pkg_info only shows the run dependencies and not the build 
> dependencies. I don't mind the disk space needed but portupgrade 
> sometimes results in having to upgrade 2 copies of gcc which is quite 
> time consuming.

short answer - do as you wish. Any software you don't need you can
safely remove provided it is not required by some other packages.
Yes, only run dependencies are shown, therefore, from time to 
time I remove some packages which I don't need, and which were built
only to build others, which I do need. HOwever, this is probably
a waste of time, because it is likely that they would be build
again at some point, when the other packages are updated.

Also, I'm fairy certain, though check yourself, that all packages
which require 4.2.5 would be also happy with higher version, i.e.
I'd just leave the highest version of gcc.

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
From guru at unixarea.de  Wed May  6 12:08:32 2009
From: guru at unixarea.de (Matthias Apitz)
Date: Wed May  6 12:08:39 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de>

El d?a Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribi?:

> Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> 
> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management.  Right 
> click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will 
> allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) 
> but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk.

I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125 GByte.
I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved for of DELL
recovery.
I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more, but no
luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for FreeBSD free,
which is a lot, compared with other servers I have here. 

> Then install 
> FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it 
> will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free 
> download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu.

Thanks for the hint.

	matthias
-- 
Matthias Apitz
t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211
e <guru@unixarea.de> - w http://www.unixarea.de/
People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.
From om-lists-bsd at omx.ch  Wed May  6 12:21:31 2009
From: om-lists-bsd at omx.ch (Olivier Mueller)
Date: Wed May  6 12:21:39 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
Message-ID: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>

Hello,

$ df -m ; date ; rm -r templates_c ; df -m ; date
Filesystem  1M-blocks   Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a       989     45   864     5%    /
/dev/da0s1f    128631 102179 16160    86%    /usr
[...]
Wed May  6 00:23:01 CEST 2009

Filesystem  1M-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a       989    45   864     5%    /
/dev/da0s1f    128631 69844 48496    59%    /usr
Wed May  6 12:21:02 CEST 2009


-> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and
sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs).
It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5
with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x
( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) )

Surprisingly, cpu load remained quite low during the operation (apache
stayed responsive).  Is it a known problem on this kind of hardware or
something related to the filesystem? Is there a way to improve this?
Even on my $500 PC with IDE disks this goes quicker... :)

I checked
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html but
I'm not sure if this would help in this case. Any suggestion how I can
"fix" that? 

Regards,
Olivier


From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Wed May  6 12:48:37 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Wed May  6 12:48:44 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
Message-ID: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Olivier Mueller <om-lists-bsd@omx.ch>:

> Hello,
> 
> $ df -m ; date ; rm -r templates_c ; df -m ; date
> Filesystem  1M-blocks   Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/da0s1a       989     45   864     5%    /
> /dev/da0s1f    128631 102179 16160    86%    /usr
> [...]
> Wed May  6 00:23:01 CEST 2009
> 
> Filesystem  1M-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/da0s1a       989    45   864     5%    /
> /dev/da0s1f    128631 69844 48496    59%    /usr
> Wed May  6 12:21:02 CEST 2009
> 
> 
> -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and
> sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs).
> It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5
> with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x
> ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) )
> 
> Surprisingly, cpu load remained quite low during the operation (apache
> stayed responsive).  Is it a known problem on this kind of hardware or
> something related to the filesystem? Is there a way to improve this?
> Even on my $500 PC with IDE disks this goes quicker... :)
> 
> I checked
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html but
> I'm not sure if this would help in this case. Any suggestion how I can
> "fix" that? 

With lots of small files, the time involved is far less dependent on
the size of data, and much more dependent on the number of files, and
the resultant number of directory entries that need to be updated.
"Lots" isn't a particularly accurate count of the # of files, but if
you're talking web cache files, I'll guess they average 5k each, which
means you had 6 million files.  df -i would have been more useful in
the output above.

This brings a number of questions up:
* Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition?  That's
  going to make the biggest improvement in speed.
* Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000?  Again, going to make a big
  difference.
* If apache was still running, is it possible that it was creating
  enough disk activity to slow the activity down?  Running
  top -m io will show you how much disk IO each process is creating.
* When you compared the speed to your laptop, did you delete 6 million
  files from the laptop?  If you deleted a single 30G file, then you're
  comparing apples to atom bombs.

If this is a directory that you blow away on a regular schedule, you'd
do much better to make it a dedicated partition and simply reformat
it.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From dcdowse at gmx.net  Wed May  6 12:50:26 2009
From: dcdowse at gmx.net (Daniel C. Dowse)
Date: Wed May  6 12:50:38 2009
Subject: xorg error with xfce3 wm install
In-Reply-To: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net>
References: <49FE4F00.4070208@hdk5.net>
Message-ID: <20090506145014.9f767fda.dcdowse@gmx.net>

On Sun, 03 May 2009 16:12:16 -1000
Al Plant <noc@hdk5.net> wrote:

[ snip ]
> "xlib extension error" "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
[ snip ]

Hi Al,

i am running fluxbox 1.1.1, i receive the same error msgs with every X
app i start, since i did some updating on the installed xorg port with
portupgrade, i don`t know what xorg version is shipped  with the
freebsd 7.1 ports on a fresh installation. First i worried a little bit
about this error msg too but since it does not do any harm on my
installation so i don`t care bout this msgs anymore. 

regards

Daniel 

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From freebsd at troback.com  Wed May  6 12:57:52 2009
From: freebsd at troback.com (Anders Troback)
Date: Wed May  6 12:58:00 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
	<20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de>
Message-ID: <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe>

On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200
Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:

> El d?a Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis
> Kiagias escribi?:
> 
> > Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> 
> > Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management.
> > Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that
> > it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the
> > fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G
> > disk.
> 
> I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125
> GByte. I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved
> for of DELL recovery.
> I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more,
> but no luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for
> FreeBSD free, which is a lot, compared with other servers I have
> here. 
> 
> > Then install 
> > FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager
> > (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use
> > EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot
> > menu.
> 
> Thanks for the hint.
> 
> 	matthias

Before you shrink you need to defrag you partition and normally you
can't do it with the defrag tool that are built into Vista, you need
something like PerfectDisk. You can get a trial version of PerfecDisk
and you only need it once so that's not an issue:-) You have to do a
system-files-defrag-on-next-boot (don't remember the exact options
here)!

\\anders

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From gio.nov at vodafone.it  Wed May  6 13:04:49 2009
From: gio.nov at vodafone.it (giorgio novello)
Date: Wed May  6 13:05:03 2009
Subject: basic 
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>

Do you want obtain new market share? 

Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
seller

 

Regards

Giorgio Novello

Vb developer

Italy

From utisoft at googlemail.com  Wed May  6 13:16:56 2009
From: utisoft at googlemail.com (Chris Rees)
Date: Wed May  6 13:17:03 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
Message-ID: <b79ecaef0905060616w671bd581g62b34bbfcbd73f2a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/6 giorgio novello <gio.nov@vodafone.it>:
> Do you want obtain new market share?
>
> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and ?your OS will be a best
> seller
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Giorgio Novello
>
> Vb developer
>
> Italy

But.... VB only works on one platform!

Chris


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From om-lists-bsd at omx.ch  Wed May  6 13:22:05 2009
From: om-lists-bsd at omx.ch (Olivier Mueller)
Date: Wed May  6 13:22:18 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data  (4 million files)
In-Reply-To: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local>

Thanks for your answer Bill!  (and to Will as well),

Some more infos I gathered a few minutes ago: 

[~/templates_c]$ date; du -s -m ; date
Wed May  6 13:35:15 CEST 2009
  2652      .
Wed May  6 13:52:36 CEST 2009

[~/templates_c]$ date ; find . | wc -l ; date
Wed May  6 13:52:56 CEST 2009
  305461
Wed May  6 14:09:39 CEST 2009


So this is on the system after a complete cache cleanup (at 00h00).
300'000 files and 2.6GB.  So this night, there were probably around 3-4
million files to delete.

Deletion may take time, but 20 minutes juste to _count_ all the files
seems pretty long to me...   I think I'll say a word to the developers
to let them tune their caching system a bit :)



On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 08:48 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> With lots of small files, the time involved is far less dependent on
> the size of data, and much more dependent on the number of files, and
> the resultant number of directory entries that need to be updated.
> "Lots" isn't a particularly accurate count of the # of files, but if
> you're talking web cache files, I'll guess they average 5k each, which
> means you had 6 million files.  df -i would have been more useful in
> the output above.

Thanks, noted for next time.  Now it looks like that:
Filesystem  1M-blocks  Used Avail Capacity iused    ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1f    128631 70544 47795    60% 1913875 15114219   11%   /usr


> This brings a number of questions up:
> * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition?  That's
>   going to make the biggest improvement in speed.

According to "mount" output, yes.  I found no specific message about
that in the syslog or dmesg.

> * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000?  Again, going to make a big
>   difference.

HP 146GB 6G SAS 10K SFF DP ENT HDD  (15k were not available at the time
the servers were ordered)
( http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/serial/sas/index.html )

> * If apache was still running, is it possible that it was creating
>   enough disk activity to slow the activity down?  Running
>   top -m io will show you how much disk IO each process is creating.

Yes, apache was still running, but the activity was quite low (it was
during the night, and the webpage doesn't get so many hits before 9 am
local time)

While watching "top -m io", the "du" or "find" takes between 80 and 99%,
so I guess it's not the probleme here:

  PID    UID          VCSW  IVCSW   READ  WRITE  FAULT  TOTAL PERCENT COMMAND
87996   1002            59     56      0      0      0      0   0.00% php
45389   1002            35     25      0      0      2      2   0.84% php
 3964   1002             0      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 3822   1002           151     98      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 3005   1002             0      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 4129   1002             0      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 3971   1002             0      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 4231   1002             1      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% httpd
 4132      0           234      5    234      0      0    234  97.91% find
98862   1002             1      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% top
  609      0             0      0      0      0      0      0   0.00% snmpd
[...]


> * When you compared the speed to your laptop, did you delete 6 million
>   files from the laptop?  If you deleted a single 30G file, then you're
>   comparing apples to atom bombs.

Yes sorry, I know :)

> If this is a directory that you blow away on a regular schedule, you'd
> do much better to make it a dedicated partition and simply reformat
> it.

Yes, it is one of the best options. My initial goal was to delete all
files older than N days by cron  (find | xargs | rm, etc.), but if each
cronjob takes 2 hours (and takes so much cpu time), it's probably not
the best way.  

I'll make some more tests on an test-server later this week and speak
with the devs. Thanks again for your very constructive feedback! 

Regards,
Olivier

From nino80 at gmail.com  Wed May  6 13:30:45 2009
From: nino80 at gmail.com (n j)
Date: Wed May  6 13:30:51 2009
Subject: When a System Dies; Getting back in operation again.
In-Reply-To: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
References: <200905011707.n41H7M6b021540@dc.cis.okstate.edu>
Message-ID: <92bcbda50905060630j50820ebdid2e583ad6281b177@mail.gmail.com>

> ... What is the best way to restore the full system?
> Can I use the FreeBSD installation disk in rescue mode?

I experienced such a situation just 2 weeks ago. My primary problem
was that I had to do restore over the network (no attached tape
drives, no external HDDs). I wanted to use ssh to grab the dump from
the backup server, but ended up using netcat which worked great.

Here's basically what I did including backup from the not-yet-dead
machine (note, I used intermediate backup server, but it should be
possible to directly pipe dump to restore):

1. dump -0Laf - / | ssh backup-server "cat > dump.root"
2. boot the new machine from CD disc1 (FreeBSD <7) or livefs disc (FreeBSD >7)
3. create and newfs partitions as explained in this thread (at least
the size of backup, can be larger)
4. go into the rescue (fixit) mode, create mount points for created
partitions (mkdir mnt.root), mount partitions (e.g. mount /dev/da0s1a
/mnt.root), change directory to mount point (cd /mnt.root), configure
NIC (ifconfig)
5. start netcat (nc -l 55555 | restore -rvf -)
6. on backup-server: cat dump.root | nc new-machine 55555
7. repeat for usr and var partitions

Notes:
1. if security is an issue, ssh out from the new machine to the backup
server with port forwarding (ssh -R 55555:localhost:55555
backup-server) and pipe the backup to localhost (cat dump.root | nc
localhost 55555);
my initial idea was to start sshd in fixit mode (see my post to the
list "fixit console with sshd") which turned out to be too much of a
trouble.
2. restore uses TMPDIR to store some temporary files during restore
process; the fixit mode has limited free space and when it gets
exhausted the restore process will fail, so it is a good idea to use
an available partition as a temporary TMPDIR (e.g. export
TMPDIR=/mnt.var while restoring usr partition and later use a
subdirectory of usr as TMPDIR to restore var partition)
3. [IMPORTANT!] after the restore process is over, manually check
restored etc/fstab and etc/rc.conf (currently mounted as
/mnt.root/...) to fix:
a) partition names (e.g. /dev/da0s1a might become /dev/amrd0s1a)
b) ethernet interface names (e.g. em0 might become bge0)
c) IP addresses in case you still have the old box running to avoid IP conflict

You should now be able to safely reboot and log into your new machine.

Regards,
-- 
Nino
From leslie at eskk.nu  Wed May  6 13:56:49 2009
From: leslie at eskk.nu (Leslie Jensen)
Date: Wed May  6 13:56:57 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>	<4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>	<20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe>
Message-ID: <4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu>


Anders Troback skrev:
> On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:08:27 +0200
> Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> wrote:
> 
>> El d?a Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis
>> Kiagias escribi?:
>>
>>> Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> 
>>> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management.
>>> Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that
>>> it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the
>>> fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G
>>> disk.
>> I did so and was only allowed to shrink the partition to some 125
>> GByte. I even moved before the swap to some other partition, reserved
>> for of DELL recovery.
>> I re-booted and hoped that it let me now shrink the 125 even more,
>> but no luck. So, at the moment I only have around 100 GByte for
>> FreeBSD free, which is a lot, compared with other servers I have
>> here. 
>>
>>> Then install 
>>> FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager
>>> (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use
>>> EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot
>>> menu.
>> Thanks for the hint.
>>
>> 	matthias
> 
> Before you shrink you need to defrag you partition and normally you
> can't do it with the defrag tool that are built into Vista, you need
> something like PerfectDisk. You can get a trial version of PerfecDisk
> and you only need it once so that's not an issue:-) You have to do a
> system-files-defrag-on-next-boot (don't remember the exact options
> here)!
> 
> \\anders
> 


I've done this a few times and the best procedure is to use the Parted 
magic CD and resize the partition. The Vista shrink tool is not 
something I would recommend. You don't have to think of defragging when 
you use Parted Magic.

/Leslie
From outbackdingo at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:26:02 2009
From: outbackdingo at gmail.com (Outback Dingo)
Date: Wed May  6 14:26:11 2009
Subject: basic
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Message-ID: <5635aa0d0905060725x747e22fbq3cae81c81a3dc092@mail.gmail.com>

comne on now, its not even april first.....

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 PM, giorgio novello <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:

> Do you want obtain new market share?
>
> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> seller
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Giorgio Novello
>
> Vb developer
>
> Italy
>
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From af300wsm at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:30:49 2009
From: af300wsm at gmail.com (af300wsm@gmail.com)
Date: Wed May  6 14:30:57 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
Message-ID: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>

Hi,

I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other  
helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering,  
how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts.

Thanks,
Andy
From odhiambo at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:39:25 2009
From: odhiambo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?=)
Date: Wed May  6 14:39:33 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
Message-ID: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, <af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other
> helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering,
> how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts.


Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6
addresses. I, too, am interested in knowing and I guess it's time I start
learning these IPv6 stuff.


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From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Wed May  6 14:40:49 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Wed May  6 14:40:56 2009
Subject: Preferred client for DynDNS
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>

There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com
services here:
<http://www.freebsd.org/ports/dns.html>

E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck

Can anyone make recommendations?  My goal in using DynDNS is to allow
remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a
common ISP).

Thanks,
Daniel
From leslie at eskk.nu  Wed May  6 14:52:14 2009
From: leslie at eskk.nu (Leslie Jensen)
Date: Wed May  6 14:52:20 2009
Subject: Preferred client for DynDNS
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A01A416.9030807@eskk.nu>



Daniel Underwood skrev:
> There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com
> services here:
> <http://www.freebsd.org/ports/dns.html>
> 
> E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck
> 
> Can anyone make recommendations?  My goal in using DynDNS is to allow
> remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a
> common ISP).
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel


I use dns/noip for exactly that purpose on six different machines (and 
locations)

/Leslie
From echen at nyx.com  Wed May  6 14:53:31 2009
From: echen at nyx.com (Eddie Chen)
Date: Wed May  6 14:53:39 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>
Message-ID: <OF8E076839.4B94D84B-ON852575AE.004EC567-852575AE.004F2039@nyx.com>





Lowell,

         On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I
Googled  "fetch", can't found the download  URL for "fetch".
   It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to
the clients.  Thanks.




                                                                           
                Lowell Gilbert                                             
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             lk.org>                   freebsd-questions@freebsd.org       
                                                                        cc 
                05/05/2009             Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com>          
             08:56 PM                                              Subject 
                                       Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP     
                                                                           
             Please respond to                                             
             freebsd-questions                                             
               @freebsd.org                                                
                                                                           
                                                                           




Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>    I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code.
>
>    However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing it.
>    It's actually trivial to implement this feature.
>
>    If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client.

I've never used return codes with ftp(1),
but I have used them with fetch(1), which
is also part of the base system.

Have you tried fetch?  If it doesn't meet
your needs, can you explain why?

--
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From lists at jnielsen.net  Wed May  6 14:56:46 2009
From: lists at jnielsen.net (John Nielsen)
Date: Wed May  6 14:56:53 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
	<991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905061056.43181.lists@jnielsen.net>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo  ????? wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:30 PM, <af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other
> > helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm
> > wondering, how do I configure the router to assign addresses to
> > hosts.
>
> Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6
> addresses. I, too, am interested in knowing and I guess it's time I
> start learning these IPv6 stuff.

Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients 
(other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd 
running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6. 
Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they 
learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed 
to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new 
protocol. :)

JN
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 15:09:13 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 15:09:20 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <OF8E076839.4B94D84B-ON852575AE.004EC567-852575AE.004F2039@nyx.com>
References: <44zldrjbgr.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>
	<OF8E076839.4B94D84B-ON852575AE.004EC567-852575AE.004F2039@nyx.com>
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBC9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

Can I assume you want return codes to know if the file was transferred
correctly?  Several years ago I was involved in architecting a
middleware app for file/data exchange.  For ftp delivery (and others)
we'd check the file size locally, put the file, then check the file size
on the remote side.  Not fool-proof, such as CRC or Hash of somekind,
but pretty good.  Use bin mode for everything.  Also, maybe as part of
the file record itself you can embed a hash and have the client check
this when processing the file on their end.

Unfortunately when using ftp you never know what the ftp server
supports, so unless you can dictate "supported" ftp servers, you can't
get too fancy.

G


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Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP





Lowell,

         On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I
Googled  "fetch", can't found the download  URL for "fetch".
   It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to
the clients.  Thanks.




 

                Lowell Gilbert

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             08:56 PM
Subject 
                                       Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP

 

             Please respond to

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               @freebsd.org

 

 





Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>    I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code.
>
>    However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing
it.
>    It's actually trivial to implement this feature.
>
>    If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client.

I've never used return codes with ftp(1),
but I have used them with fetch(1), which
is also part of the base system.

Have you tried fetch?  If it doesn't meet
your needs, can you explain why?

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From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Wed May  6 15:10:25 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Wed May  6 15:10:46 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data  (4 million files)
In-Reply-To: <1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<1241616121.16418.109.camel@ompc.insign.local>
Message-ID: <20090506111022.05d06f1a.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Olivier Mueller <om-lists-bsd@omx.ch>:
> 
> Yes, it is one of the best options. My initial goal was to delete all
> files older than N days by cron  (find | xargs | rm, etc.), but if each
> cronjob takes 2 hours (and takes so much cpu time), it's probably not
> the best way.  
> 
> I'll make some more tests on an test-server later this week and speak
> with the devs. Thanks again for your very constructive feedback! 

Based on your comments here, it really sounds like your devs need to
implement some sort of cache cleaning algo into their code.  If it's
just deleting the oldest files, then you could probably run it far
more frequently if you simply created a new cache directory each
hour, and deleted the previous one.

Honestly, I'm really confused -- if you can just throw away the cache
each night, then why are you caching to begin with?  If you just need
temp files, why doesn't the app clean up its temp files when it's
done with them?

If you have access to the developers, I think you'll be able to come
up with a much better solution by working with them.

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From af300wsm at gmail.com  Wed May  6 15:11:30 2009
From: af300wsm at gmail.com (af300wsm@gmail.com)
Date: Wed May  6 15:11:36 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <200905061056.43181.lists@jnielsen.net>
Message-ID: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com>

On May 6, 2009 8:56am, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo ????? wrote:


> Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients

> (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd

> running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6.

> Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they

> learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed

> to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new

> protocol. :)


Thanks for reminding me of the flow in which this happens. Seems like I, at  
sometime, got the idea that it was the router that dished back a unique IP  
based on clients MAC and so forth. However, it seems to me now that the  
router was only supposed to dish out the prefix, ie network id, and the  
client would take that prefix and generate a unique IP based on its MAC.

Thanks again,
Andy
From mister.olli at googlemail.com  Wed May  6 15:21:02 2009
From: mister.olli at googlemail.com (Mister Olli)
Date: Wed May  6 15:21:15 2009
Subject: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter
Message-ID: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>

Hi,

is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems
via kernel command line parameters?

I have some freebsd systems in as xen domU's and it would be really
great to be able to set the ip address & hostname within the
configuration file for the domU.

I'm aware that I could configure a static mac address and use DHCP, but
with several layer2 segments on different XEN hosts setting up DHCP
correctly would be a real pain ;-)

---
Regards
Mr. Olli

From steve at ibctech.ca  Wed May  6 15:25:39 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Wed May  6 15:25:45 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com>
References: <0016361e896051401204693fcf74@google.com>
Message-ID: <4A01ABE5.5000508@ibctech.ca>

af300wsm@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 6, 2009 8:56am, John Nielsen <lists@jnielsen.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 10:39:24 am Odhiambo $B%o%7%s%H%s(B wrote:
> 
> 
>> Is there a reason you need to control the addresses used by your clients
> 
>> (other than the prefix)? I set up IPv6 on my LAN and while I have DHCPd
> 
>> running on the router for IPv4 addresses rtadvd is all I needed for IPv6.
> 
>> Clients assign themselves addresses based on the network prefix they
> 
>> learn from route solicitation and their own MAC address. That's supposed
> 
>> to be one of the "reduced administration" benefits of the new
> 
>> protocol. :)
> 
> 
> Thanks for reminding me of the flow in which this happens. Seems like I,
> at sometime, got the idea that it was the router that dished back a
> unique IP based on clients MAC and so forth. However, it seems to me now
> that the router was only supposed to dish out the prefix, ie network id,
> and the client would take that prefix and generate a unique IP based on
> its MAC.

Have a peruse of this RFC (stateless autoconfig):

http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4862.txt

Steve
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Wed May  6 15:28:47 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Wed May  6 15:28:54 2009
Subject: Preferred client for DynDNS
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905060828r683501a4s9cd6c065d321c6a4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com
> services here:
> <http://www.freebsd.org/ports/dns.html>
>
> E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck
>
> Can anyone make recommendations?  My goal in using DynDNS is to allow
> remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a
> common ISP).
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
>  <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>


I use ddclient.  It was the first one I tried, and works well, so I haven't
tried anything else.

Andrew
From emss at free.fr  Wed May  6 15:29:34 2009
From: emss at free.fr (Eric Masson)
Date: Wed May  6 15:29:42 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com>
	(odhiambo@gmail.com's message of "Wed, 6 May 2009 17:39:24 +0300")
References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
	<991123400905060739l5287b003o7964cf3b6eed9102@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <867i0uuvla.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com>

Odhiambo  ????? <odhiambo@gmail.com> writes:

Hi,

> Nice question. I wonder if isc-dhcp-server can already handle IPv6
> addresses.

Seems it can since 4.x branch.

But, is there any reason to use dhcp on ipv6 nets as the protocol has
been designed with autoconfiguration in mind ?

Regards
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From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Wed May  6 15:40:45 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Wed May  6 15:40:52 2009
Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ?
In-Reply-To: <20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
	<200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
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On Wednesday 06 May 2009 11:31:17 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

> I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4.
> In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have:
>
> # grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile
> NOT_FOR_ARCHS=  alpha ia64 powerpc
> #
>
> In /etc/make.conf I have:
>
> .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*}
> NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64
> USE_GCC=4.3+
> .endif
>
> This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore.
> The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built
> with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have
> to do it manually each time.
>
> So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then.

Your only option is overriding in /usr/portslang/gcc43/Makefile.local. This is 
because make.conf is read *before* the Makefile and the Makefile simply 
overrides your values. Makefile.local is read *after* the Makefile.
csup will leave it alone, however portsnap will delete the entire directory 
before upgrading the port, so your Makefile.local will be shot.
-- 
Mel
From andrew at QEMG.org  Wed May  6 15:43:23 2009
From: andrew at QEMG.org (Andrew Hamilton-Wright)
Date: Wed May  6 15:43:29 2009
Subject: Xdvi with amd64
In-Reply-To: <200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
References: <200904300755.n3U7tHmJ090473@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905031030431.1742@qemg.org>
	<200905040212.n442C28A071537@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
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On Mon, 4 May 2009, Olivier Nicole wrote:

>> Exactly which fonts are you having trouble with?  I can tell you
>> whether I can reproduce the issue under 7.1.
>
> Nothing exotic at all: cmr10.300.pk
>
> The error message is:
>
>    $ xdvi memo
>    Note:  overstrike characters may be incorrect.
>>>> xdvi: Wrong number of bits stored:  char. 68, font cmr10
>    $

For what it is worth, I don't seem to be able to produce this
with any DVI files I create.  If you have one in particular you
would like me to verify, you can email it to me.


What version of xdvi are you running?  I have a recent port:

     $ xdvi -version
 	xdvik version 22.84.10 (@(#)Motif Version 2.2.3, runtime version 2.2)
 	Libraries: kpathsea version 3.5.2, T1lib version 5.1.2


A.

From echen at nyx.com  Wed May  6 15:44:51 2009
From: echen at nyx.com (Eddie Chen)
Date: Wed May  6 15:44:57 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBC9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
Message-ID: <OFC2C1BBE0.21B6D28C-ON852575AE.0054A36E-852575AE.00567F9E@nyx.com>





Gary,

    Yes I am look a retrunCode from  "put/get/reanme".
     We run and transmit very large amount of data and jobs thru out the
evening. These jobs runs under Linux and AIX.

       -  This was not an issue on the mainframe, the mainframe ftp client
support return code.

     Currently, we have two solutions,  write  script(s)  to look for "226"
and "250" and/or PERL ftp that reads ftp command.
     Reading the  ftp commands seems to be better, because it will exit(rc)
if any of  "put" or "rename" failed.

        Thanks.


                                                                           
                "Gary Gatten"                                              
             <Ggatten@waddell.                                             
             com>                                                       To 
                                       "Eddie Chen" <echen@nyx.com>,       
                05/06/2009             <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>     
             11:08 AM                                                   cc 
                                                                           
                                                                   Subject 
                                       RE: ReturnCode Checking for FTP     
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           




Can I assume you want return codes to know if the file was transferred
correctly?  Several years ago I was involved in architecting a
middleware app for file/data exchange.  For ftp delivery (and others)
we'd check the file size locally, put the file, then check the file size
on the remote side.  Not fool-proof, such as CRC or Hash of somekind,
but pretty good.  Use bin mode for everything.  Also, maybe as part of
the file record itself you can embed a hash and have the client check
this when processing the file on their end.

Unfortunately when using ftp you never know what the ftp server
supports, so unless you can dictate "supported" ftp servers, you can't
get too fancy.

G


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From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Eddie Chen
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:24 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP





Lowell,

         On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I
Googled  "fetch", can't found the download  URL for "fetch".
   It seems "fetch(1)" will get file(s)... We mostly push the file(s) to
the clients.  Thanks.






                Lowell Gilbert

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Subject
                                       Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP



             Please respond to

             freebsd-questions

               @freebsd.org









Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>    I am looking for a FTP clients that exit with a return code.
>
>    However, last week I download the tnftp and started implementing
it.
>    It's actually trivial to implement this feature.
>
>    If this works, do you think it should be part of the ftp client.

I've never used return codes with ftp(1),
but I have used them with fetch(1), which
is also part of the base system.

Have you tried fetch?  If it doesn't meet
your needs, can you explain why?

--
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From freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org  Wed May  6 15:45:12 2009
From: freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
Date: Wed May  6 15:45:19 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <OF8E076839.4B94D84B-ON852575AE.004EC567-852575AE.004F2039@nyx.com>
	(Eddie Chen's message of "Wed\, 6 May 2009 10\:24\:14 -0400")
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Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>          On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I
> Googled  "fetch", can't found the download  URL for "fetch".

If you need the same behaviour from your ftp clients on all platforms,
you will need to install a different ftp client on at least some of
them.  The native ftp(1) programs are quite different on all three of
those platforms are quite different.

I hear ncftp is nice.


-- 
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		http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
From jt at 0xabadba.be  Wed May  6 15:47:43 2009
From: jt at 0xabadba.be (jt@0xabadba.be)
Date: Wed May  6 15:47:56 2009
Subject: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter
In-Reply-To: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
References: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
Message-ID: <a0806f900905060826i3d9841cfn4c7fd6336293f42d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
   I would take a look at sysctl this system takes care of kernel
parameters.  There are a few man pages that delineate what is read only.
I'm sure you are aware of setting the hostname at boot time.  It seemed like
you were more curious about on the fly.  I'm not familiar with xen domU's

hope this helps,

=jt

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Mister Olli <mister.olli@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems
> via kernel command line parameters?
>
> I have some freebsd systems in as xen domU's and it would be really
> great to be able to set the ip address & hostname within the
> configuration file for the domU.
>
> I'm aware that I could configure a static mac address and use DHCP, but
> with several layer2 segments on different XEN hosts setting up DHCP
> correctly would be a real pain ;-)
>
> ---
> Regards
> Mr. Olli
>
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From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 15:50:26 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 15:50:33 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <44zldqutff.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
References: <OF8E076839.4B94D84B-ON852575AE.004EC567-852575AE.004F2039@nyx.com>
	<44zldqutff.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBCD@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

Yep - or at least make sure the client is in "debug" mode - it may spew
out the messages/codes you're wanting in debug mode.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:45 AM
To: Eddie Chen
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: ReturnCode Checking for FTP

Eddie Chen <echen@nyx.com> writes:

>          On my AIX and Linux system we don't have fetch installed. I
> Googled  "fetch", can't found the download  URL for "fetch".

If you need the same behaviour from your ftp clients on all platforms,
you will need to install a different ftp client on at least some of
them.  The native ftp(1) programs are quite different on all three of
those platforms are quite different.

I hear ncftp is nice.


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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 15:50:50 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 15:50:57 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
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References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
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start rtadvd on interface

On Wed, 6 May 2009, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other helpful 
> links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering, how do I 
> configure the router to assign addresses to hosts.
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 15:50:51 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 15:51:09 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061733010.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and
> sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs).
> It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5
> with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x
> ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) )
>
if you would use no raid or software raid it will behave normally.

it takes <30 minutes for me to delete 300GB of squid files on 
ordinary SATA disk , millions of small files.


From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 15:50:51 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 15:51:20 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> means you had 6 million files.  df -i would have been more useful in


> the output above.
>
> This brings a number of questions up:
> * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition?  That's

he showed mount output - he has softdeps on.

> * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000?  Again, going to make a big
>  difference.

on 7200 RPM ordinary SATA disk i deleted 15 million files taking 300GB 
(squid cache) in less than 30 minutes.

for sure it's because of his "hardware raid".

i've NEVER seen "hardware raid" that is actually faster than non-raid 
config, or gmirror/gstripe config.

usually it's far much slower
From web at umich.edu  Wed May  6 15:57:08 2009
From: web at umich.edu (William Bulley)
Date: Wed May  6 15:57:15 2009
Subject: Repeatable X lockups
Message-ID: <20090506155612.GA99732@dell1>

According to Jimmie James <jimmiejaz@gmail.com> on Sat, 05/02/09 at 15:46:
>
> When using the xv output driver for vlc or mplayer, X will lockup, crash 
> instantly, trashing the screen and forcing a reboot
> Image of screen corruption: 
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/xcrash.jpg
> 
> This just started manifesting in the past week or so.

I have experienced the same problem, but I didn't see any suggestions
or answers to your posting.  Have you had any success yet with this?
Have you tried any other output drivers?  This is something I plan to
try in the next few days.

My system is i386 with Intel 915 graphics on the motherboard.  Xorg 7.4
runs fine.  When I run mplayer from the command line, in an xterm under
open-motif, the X Windows session dies and I am tossed back to the vty.

When I similarly run vlc from the command line, the screen is locked in
an even worse state than your above URL.  I am forced to ssh(1) in from
another FreeBSD workstation to reboot.  Before the reboot, ps(1) reports
no processes running xorg or any of its child processes, it seems as if
my video hardware has been left in some ugly, locked-up, unusable state.

What is interesting to me is that the same flash file that causes vlc
and mplayer to crash runs just fine in ffplay(1) (part of ffmpeg port).
Yet at least vlc uses ffmpeg, while it doesn't look like mplayer does.

This is 7.2-PRERELEASE built on 24 Apr 2009 with the ports of mplayer
and vlc built on 2 May 2009 following a csup(1) of complete ports tree
on either 24 Apr or 25 Apr - so approximately the same timeframe as you.

Regards,

web...

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From freebsd at edvax.de  Wed May  6 16:00:41 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Wed May  6 16:00:49 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
Message-ID: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>

10 GOTO 10

On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
> Do you want obtain new market share? 
> 
> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> seller

FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. There
wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making
Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse
and so on - everything already there. :-)

Furthermore, FreeBSD isn't sold. So it doesn't have to care
about market share and "best seller".

And for the weekend:
10 GOTO KNEIPE
20 INPUT BIER


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From cpghost at cordula.ws  Wed May  6 16:09:55 2009
From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost)
Date: Wed May  6 16:10:03 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061733010.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061733010.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <20090506160952.GB1154@phenom.cordula.ws>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:34:24PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and
> > 
> > sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs).
> > It's a little bit surprising, as it's on a recent HP proliant DL360 g5
> > with SAS disks (Raid1) running freebsd 6.x
> > ( /dev/da0s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) )
> 
> if you would use no raid or software raid it will behave normally.
> 
> it takes <30 minutes for me to delete 300GB of squid files on 
> ordinary SATA disk , millions of small files.

Alternatively, you could assign a dedicated filesystem for the cache
and when cleaning up:
  * stop the app (or disable caching),
  * umount
  * newfs
  * mount
  * restart the app (or reenable caching).

newfs is MUCH faster than manually deleting gazillions of files.  If
you don't like the (small) downtime during newfs, you could also play
with two or more dedicated filesystems, and rotate between them (though
that would be a waste of disk space).

I can't recall how many times I've used a fresh newfs-ed filesystem
instead of removing stuff one file at a time.

-cpghost.

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From cpghost at cordula.ws  Wed May  6 16:20:54 2009
From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost)
Date: Wed May  6 16:21:01 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
	<20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <20090506162051.GC1154@phenom.cordula.ws>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
> > Do you want obtain new market share? 
> > 
> > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> > seller
> 
> FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. There
> wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
> Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
> Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making
> Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse
> and so on - everything already there. :-)

Well, programming languages and environments are a matter of personal
choice and taste, and there *are* coders who use VB professionally,
i.e. to make a living. Actually an awful lot of them (*shudder*).

And let's not forget Mono for the runtime arch, which runs on FreeBSD:
  /usr/ports/lang/mono
If VB runs under Wine (?), it could theorically be used to create NET
code which could run via mono, i.e. all under FreeBSD.

Of course, software written with wxWidgets, Qt, et. al. (either with
C++ or indirectly using Perl, Python, ... bindings) would be much more
portable... ;-)

> And for the weekend:
> 10 GOTO KNEIPE
> 20 INPUT BIER

You forgot the most important step:

30 GOTO 20

-cpghost.

-- 
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From sisson.j at gmail.com  Wed May  6 16:38:28 2009
From: sisson.j at gmail.com (J Sisson)
Date: Wed May  6 16:38:34 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
Message-ID: <4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com>

That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and flood
it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they
booted without a GUI.

And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you know...for
performance reasons.

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:

> Do you want obtain new market share?
>
> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> seller
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Giorgio Novello
>
> Vb developer
>
> Italy
>
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From rb at gid.co.uk  Wed May  6 17:08:41 2009
From: rb at gid.co.uk (Bob Bishop)
Date: Wed May  6 17:08:54 2009
Subject: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter
In-Reply-To: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
References: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
Message-ID: <57A9FCBA-CBCB-45D2-9B95-5E5DBC0DB964@gid.co.uk>

Hi,

On 6 May 2009, at 16:20, Mister Olli wrote:

> is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems
> via kernel command line parameters? [etc]

When running diskless, the loader sets kernel variables like:

boot.netif.gateway="192.168.198.1"
boot.netif.hwaddr="00:15:17:47:14:fc"
boot.netif.ip="192.168.198.8"
boot.netif.netmask="255.255.255.0"

to values obtained from BOOTP or DHCP, and the right things happen. I  
guess you could just set these in loader.conf or at the loader prompt.

--
Bob Bishop
rb@gid.co.uk




From benjamin at seattlefenix.net  Wed May  6 17:16:21 2009
From: benjamin at seattlefenix.net (Benjamin Krueger)
Date: Wed May  6 17:16:33 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> means you had 6 million files.  df -i would have been more useful in
> 
> 
>> the output above.
>>
>> This brings a number of questions up:
>> * Are you _sure_ softupdates is enabled on that partition?  That's
> 
> he showed mount output - he has softdeps on.
> 
>> * Are these 7200RPM disks or 15,000?  Again, going to make a big
>>  difference.
> 
> on 7200 RPM ordinary SATA disk i deleted 15 million files taking 300GB 
> (squid cache) in less than 30 minutes.
> 
> for sure it's because of his "hardware raid".
> 
> i've NEVER seen "hardware raid" that is actually faster than non-raid 
> config, or gmirror/gstripe config.
> 
> usually it's far much slower

Sorry, but my experience with that very server using a P400 controller 
with 256MB write cache is very different. My benchmarks showed that 
controller using Raid5 (with only 4 disks) is significantly faster than 
software layouts.

The days when hardware controllers could automatically be considered 
slow are long gone. The hardware does get faster over time. Don't make 
any assumptions without doing benchmarks.
From doug at polands.org  Wed May  6 17:39:45 2009
From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland)
Date: Wed May  6 17:39:53 2009
Subject: Source update tag RELENG_7_2 != 7.2-RELEASE  ?
Message-ID: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org>

Hello,

Yesterday I did a source update on an i386 box to 7.2.  My
supfile uses RELENG_7_2

host# more /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/supfile
*default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
*default delete use-rel-suffix compress
*default host=cvsup8.us.freebsd.org
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2
src-all

After canonical steps:

host# csup -L2 /usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/supfile
host# cd /usr/src
host# make buildworld buildkernel
host# make installkernel
host# make installworld
host# mergemaster -iU
host# shutdown -r now

I get a kernel identified as:

host# uname -r
7.2-RC2

So, I'm pretty sure I'm running 7.2-RELEASE.  But my kernel still says
7.2-RC2.  Did I do something wrong here?


-- 
Regards,
Doug

From heli at mikestammer.com  Wed May  6 18:20:11 2009
From: heli at mikestammer.com (Eric)
Date: Wed May  6 18:20:17 2009
Subject: Source update tag RELENG_7_2 != 7.2-RELEASE  ?
In-Reply-To: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org>
References: <99a2e3a48c28263e579f05d58d44b13e.squirrel@email.polands.org>
Message-ID: <4A01CC33.8000205@mikestammer.com>

Doug Poland wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Yesterday I did a source update on an i386 box to 7.2.  My
> supfile uses RELENG_7_2
> 
> 
> So, I'm pretty sure I'm running 7.2-RELEASE.  But my kernel still says
> 7.2-RC2.  Did I do something wrong here?
> 
> 

my guess is cvsup8.us.freebsd.org doesnt have the RELEASE code on it 
yet. Does /usr/src/UPDATING mention 7.2-RELEASE or is the last item 
about an ssl fix? if its ssl, pick a new mirror and try again.
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 18:10:39 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 18:24:23 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com><alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many
many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires
parity calcs.  Most of my benchmarking was done on SCO OpenServer and
Novell UnixWare and Netware, but hardware RAID controllers were always
faster and of course required far less host CPU resources.  Raid
0/1/10/0+1/whatever arrays, I recall weren't as drastic, but I can't
imagine the controller making as big a difference as the drives in the
array - unless of course the drive for said controller sux!

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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 18:31:14 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 18:31:32 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905062029510.34023@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

>> config, or gmirror/gstripe config.
>> 
>> usually it's far much slower
>
> Sorry, but my experience with that very server using a P400 controller with 
> 256MB write cache is very different. My benchmarks showed that controller 
> using Raid5 (with only 4 disks) is significantly faster than software 
> layouts.

possibly with RAID5, but for sure slower than single drive

> The days when hardware controllers could automatically be considered slow are 
> long gone.

unfortunately not.
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Wed May  6 18:46:44 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Wed May  6 18:46:51 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
Message-ID: <7B3E8A7E95D544718E0AA242@utd65257.utdallas.edu>

I'm going to take another stab at this.

I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD.  Last time I asked the question 
someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic.  I later discovered that 
there is a amd-utils in ports and an amd directory in contrib under source.

So, is amd a kernel module?  A separate program I compile?  Should I build the 
ports amd-util instead?  Will that give me autofs functionality?

I've searched the web for howtos, but they all seem to be for LInux, not 
FreeBSD.  It even seems the latest stuff for amd on FSBD is for 6.1.  (I just 
upgraded to 7.2 STABLE today.)

Has anyone ever done this?  Is anyone successfully using autofs on FBSD?

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From freebsd at optiksecurite.com  Wed May  6 18:49:38 2009
From: freebsd at optiksecurite.com (Martin Turgeon)
Date: Wed May  6 18:49:46 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
Message-ID: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using 
FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and 
to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to 
update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another 
up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point 
the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs 
mount.

Is someone using something like this?

Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without 
down time?

Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server 
running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 
controler 2x146G 15K)?

Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)

Martin
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 18:50:23 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 18:50:36 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

OT now, but in high i/o envs with high concurrency needs, RAID5 is still the way to go, esp if 90% of i/o is reads. Of course it depends on file size / type as well... Anyway, let's sum it up with "a storage subsystem is only as fast as its slowest link"

----- Original Message -----
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
To: Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Cc: Gary Gatten; Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@seattlefenix.net>; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org <freebsd-performance@freebsd.org>; Olivier Mueller <om-lists-bsd@omx.ch>; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
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Subject: Re: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data

> yes, some of them suck royally.

you should rather say "some of them doesn't suck".





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From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Wed May  6 18:29:54 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Wed May  6 18:51:02 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
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In response to "Gary Gatten" <Ggatten@waddell.com>:

> It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many
> many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires
> parity calcs.  Most of my benchmarking was done on SCO OpenServer and
> Novell UnixWare and Netware, but hardware RAID controllers were always
> faster and of course required far less host CPU resources.  Raid
> 0/1/10/0+1/whatever arrays, I recall weren't as drastic, but I can't
> imagine the controller making as big a difference as the drives in the
> array - unless of course the drive for said controller sux!

Keep in mind that there are a LOT of RAID controllers out there, and
yes, some of them suck royally.  Especially the consumer-grade stuff
intended for people to use on their home systems.  I'd be willing
to bet that software RAID is faster than 90% of the consumer grade
RAID cards, and probably more reliable than most of them as well.

Controllers make a huge difference, even in server class RAID (in
my experience).  There is a significant gap in performance between
the good stuff and the good enough stuff.

-- 
Bill Moran
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From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 18:31:07 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 18:51:25 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD2@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

Sorry, "drive" in last sentence should be "driver"!

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Cc: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org <freebsd-performance@freebsd.org>; Olivier Mueller <om-lists-bsd@omx.ch>; Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Wed May 06 13:08:46 2009
Subject: RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data

It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many
many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires
parity calcs.  Most of my benchmarking was done on SCO OpenServer and
Novell UnixWare and Netware, but hardware RAID controllers were always
faster and of course required far less host CPU resources.  Raid
0/1/10/0+1/whatever arrays, I recall weren't as drastic, but I can't
imagine the controller making as big a difference as the drives in the
array - unless of course the drive for said controller sux!

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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 18:32:12 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 18:51:31 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
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> It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many
> many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires

maybe with RAID5, but using RAID5 today (huge disk sizes, little sense to 
save on disk space) instead of RAID1/10 doesn't make much sense, as RAID5 
is slow on writes by design
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Wed May  6 18:32:47 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Wed May  6 18:51:44 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
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> yes, some of them suck royally.

you should rather say "some of them doesn't suck".
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Wed May  6 19:07:10 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Wed May  6 19:07:18 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
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On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 10:01:36AM +0100, Marc Coyles wrote:

> > One thing you should try is to remove the dump_snapshot files,
> > because
> > they are supposed to be unlinked when the dump starts anyway, so
> > they
> > shouldn't be sticking around.
> > 
> > Also, look for file flags on the directories, or ACLs, etc.
> > 
> > And consider the permissions you're running dump with.
> > 
> 
> Dump is running as root via cron / initiated by hand.
> ACLs not used.
> Have removed all existing dump_snapshot files, and
> have also removed and recreated all .snap directories.
> 
> S'now working fine for all mountpoints, except /home...
> 

Is /home really a separate file system on your system?
Or is it just a directory in another filesystem?

////jerry


> mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
> dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
> 
> It doesn't appear to proceed "as normal" either... as you can see below,
> it ends the previous dump, starts the /home dump, gets an I/O error,
> then proceeds straight to the /usr dump. The /home dump never gets
> performed. If I remove the -L option, everything goes thru fine, but
> complains about lack of -L flag...
> 
>   DUMP: DUMP IS DONE 
> mksnap_ffs: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: Input/output error
> dump: Cannot create /home/.snap/dump_snapshot: No such file or directory
> 
>   DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Wed May  6 08:30:31 2009
>   DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
>   DUMP: Dumping snapshot of /dev/da0s1e (/usr) to standard output
> 
> 
> Fsck finds no errors on /home... point to note... mksnap_ffs CAN create
> /home/.snap/dump_snapshot as I'm sat looking at the file, however, once
> it's created it it's as tho it can't access it. The file is there, it
> wasn't before I ran the script. It's created it as root:operator, perms
> 400. I can open it in pico, add content to it, and save it happily. So
> I'm baffled!
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
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From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Wed May  6 19:09:36 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Wed May  6 19:09:43 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
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In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using 
> FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and 
> to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to 
> update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another 
> up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point 
> the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs 
> mount.
> 
> Is someone using something like this?
> 
> Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without 
> down time?
> 
> Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server 
> running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 
> controler 2x146G 15K)?
> 
> Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)

I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's
horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you
forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!)

If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want
to run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to
keep the data in sync.  That way you just switch which DB is
master, then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat.

-- 
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From jerrymc at msu.edu  Wed May  6 19:10:01 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Wed May  6 19:10:09 2009
Subject: basic
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On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:

> 10 GOTO 10
> 
> On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
> > Do you want obtain new market share? 
> > 
> > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> > seller
> 
> FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals. 


Everyone is a beginner sometime.   So, FreeBSD is for beginners.
Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you.

////jerry


>    There
> wouldn't be Visual BEGINNERs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
> Code, but isual PROFESSIONALSs All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction
> Code, Visual Pasic, VP. It already exists: The tools for making
> Qt and Gtk+ applications. Then, there are NetBeans and Eclipse
> and so on - everything already there. :-)
> 
> Furthermore, FreeBSD isn't sold. So it doesn't have to care
> about market share and "best seller".
> 
> And for the weekend:
> 10 GOTO KNEIPE
> 20 INPUT BIER
> 
> 
> -- 
> Polytropon
> >From Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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From rsmith at xs4all.nl  Wed May  6 19:18:41 2009
From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith)
Date: Wed May  6 19:18:48 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
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On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:17:29PM +0000, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> I'm going to take another stab at this.
> 
> I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD. 

There is a libautofs library and a mount_autofs program in my 7.2 source
tree, but I'm not sure what it is, since it's not installed or built on
my amd64 box.

> Last time I asked the
> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic.  I
> later discovered that there is a amd-utils in ports and an amd
> directory in contrib under source.
> 
> So, is amd a kernel module?  A separate program I compile? 

It is a program that is part of the base system. See it's manual page;
'man amd'

From amd(8): The amd utility is a daemon that automatically mounts file
systems whenever a file or directory within that file system is
accessed.  File systems are automatically unmounted when they appear to
be quiescent.

Roland
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From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Wed May  6 19:21:58 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Wed May  6 19:22:05 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
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Gary Gatten wrote:
> OT now, but in high i/o envs with high concurrency needs, RAID5 is
> still the way to go, esp if 90% of i/o is reads. Of course it depends
> on file size / type as well... Anyway, let's sum it up with "a
> storage subsystem is only as fast as its slowest link"

It's not just the balance of reads over writes.  It's the size and sequential
location of the IO requests.  RAID5 is good for sequential reads -- eg.
streaming a video -- where the system can read whole blocks from all the
drives involved, calculate parity over the whole lot and then push all that
blob of data up to the CPU.

RAID5 is pretty pessimal if your usage pattern is small reads or writes
randomly scattered over your storage area -- eg. typical RDBMS behaviour
-- which works a great deal better on RAID10.

I'd also contend that the essential difference between a really good fast
hardware raid controller and something disappointingly mundane is a decent
amount of non-volatile cache memory.  For most H/W raid that equates to
using a battery backup unit.  I've been thinking though that a few GB of
fast solid-state hard drive configured as a gjournal for a RAID10 (ie gstripe
+gmirror) might achieve the same effect for rather less outlay...  It
would probably not be too shabby with RAID5 even, but of course you'ld
lose the benefit of offloading parity calculations onto the RAID controller's
CPU. Still, modern multi-core CPUs are probably fast enough nowadays to
make that viable for many purposes.  

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
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From fred at bsdhost.net  Wed May  6 19:35:58 2009
From: fred at bsdhost.net (Fred C)
Date: Wed May  6 19:36:04 2009
Subject: basic
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That project already exist it is called linux...

-fred-

On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote:

> That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and  
> flood
> it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they
> booted without a GUI.
>
> And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you  
> know...for
> performance reasons.
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello  
> <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
>
>> Do you want obtain new market share?
>>
>> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will  
>> be a best
>> seller
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Giorgio Novello
>>
>> Vb developer
>>
>> Italy
>>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Computers are like air conditioners...
> They quit working when you open Windows.
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From echen at nyx.com  Wed May  6 19:41:40 2009
From: echen at nyx.com (Eddie Chen)
Date: Wed May  6 19:41:47 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
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Hi Gary and Lowell,

  I just download and complied the ncftp and  run some ftp,  it looks nice.
  Going to check it out more later on... I like the diagnostics exit return
value on the ncftpput/get.

  Anyway, I have aready modify the tnftp(lukemftp) and started testing some
of the batch jobs.

   Thanks




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From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 19:53:04 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 19:53:10 2009
Subject: basic
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LMAO!  Touch?!  Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :)



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Fred C
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM
To: J Sisson
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: basic


That project already exist it is called linux...

-fred-

On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote:

> That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and  
> flood
> it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if they
> booted without a GUI.
>
> And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you  
> know...for
> performance reasons.
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello  
> <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
>
>> Do you want obtain new market share?
>>
>> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will  
>> be a best
>> seller
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Giorgio Novello
>>
>> Vb developer
>>
>> Italy
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Computers are like air conditioners...
> They quit working when you open Windows.
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From Midspan at phihongusa.com  Wed May  6 20:00:03 2009
From: Midspan at phihongusa.com (Midspan Manager)
Date: Wed May  6 20:00:11 2009
Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet
Message-ID: <20090506195957.E6D9172B3@ocean.xo.com>

Myths about Power Over Ethernet
 May 5, 2008
Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in today?s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network devices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined with an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers continuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most power interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any location PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastructure geared for growth and efficiency.

 
 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need.
Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled.  This means the majority rely on power management to share available power across the switch ports. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typically capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports. 
For example:  A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switch, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports are used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only have 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports.  The math doesn?t match the ports: 195W ? 40W (switch) ? 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) = 17W left for power on 12 ports 
Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effective solution.
 
  
 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same.
A PoE Midspan is not a switch.  A Midspan is an additional PoE power source that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices.  PoE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and ?inject? safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts.  Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially less per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch.
Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch ? they make use of existing best-in-class switches.  They inject safe power across all ports and cost less than PoE switches. . 
  
 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices like IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras. 
Switches were designed to, well, switch.  PoE Switches are designed with power management and have to distribute different power as required to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the power required to complete the primary task - switching.  Networks that have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access points quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE switches.  As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident.  Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the industry standards (IEEE802.3af/at). 
Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE-enabled devices now and in the future.   
  
 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be powered using PoE technology. 
Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet network you can use a PoE splitter.  PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separates the data and power on to two seprate cables.  The data is connected to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is connected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug.  Splitters can also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products which only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their RJ-45 jack.
Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspans and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power required by most endpoint devices. 
  
 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras and high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras. 
Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with higher power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a ?forklift upgrade?. This meant buying new PoE switches at considerable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to meet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an easy and more cost-effective way ? separate the data and power in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to separate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class business switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with best-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints. 
Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effective solution. 
  
 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same. 
Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your switched network wouldn?t use a best-in-class network switch?  Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and one that delivers enterprise-level solutions. 
Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (PoE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifications for Power-over-Ethernet. 
Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests its own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to cut costs.
Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-232) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality midspans. 
Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufacturing capability to produce best-in-class midspans.  All midspans are NOT created equal.  
  
 
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From fred at bsdhost.net  Wed May  6 20:15:35 2009
From: fred at bsdhost.net (Fred C)
Date: Wed May  6 20:15:43 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it><4297a9020905060908p664392f8v8f35b77509105ff0@mail.gmail.com>
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On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:

> LMAO!  Touch?!  Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :)


I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is  
installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in  
the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows.

-fred-

>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
> ] On Behalf Of Fred C
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: J Sisson
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: basic
>
>
> That project already exist it is called linux...
>
> -fred-
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 9:08 AM, J Sisson wrote:
>
>> That's a great idea...let's take a wonderful open source project and
>> flood
>> it with Windows "programmers" who couldn't find the shell even if  
>> they
>> booted without a GUI.
>>
>> And while we're at it, let's re-write the shell in .NET...you
>> know...for
>> performance reasons.
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:32 AM, giorgio novello
>> <gio.nov@vodafone.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you want obtain new market share?
>>>
>>> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will
>>> be a best
>>> seller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Giorgio Novello
>>>
>>> Vb developer
>>>
>>> Italy
>>>
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>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Computers are like air conditioners...
>> They quit working when you open Windows.
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From fjwcash at gmail.com  Wed May  6 20:51:10 2009
From: fjwcash at gmail.com (Freddie Cash)
Date: Wed May  6 20:51:18 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD4@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
	<4A01E343.4020608@infracaninophile.co.uk>
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Matthew Seaman
<m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> Gary Gatten wrote:
>> OT now, but in high i/o envs with high concurrency needs, RAID5 is
>> still the way to go, esp if 90% of i/o is reads. Of course it depends
>> on file size / type as well... Anyway, let's sum it up with "a
>> storage subsystem is only as fast as its slowest link"
>
> It's not just the balance of reads over writes. ?It's the size and
> sequential location of the IO requests. ?RAID5 is good for sequential reads -- eg.
> streaming a video -- where the system can read whole blocks from all the
> drives involved, calculate parity over the whole lot and then push all that
> blob of data up to the CPU.
>
> RAID5 is pretty pessimal if your usage pattern is small reads or writes
> randomly scattered over your storage area -- eg. typical RDBMS behaviour
> -- which works a great deal better on RAID10.
>
> I'd also contend that the essential difference between a really good fast
> hardware raid controller and something disappointingly mundane is a decent
> amount of non-volatile cache memory. ?For most H/W raid that equates to
> using a battery backup unit. ?I've been thinking though that a few GB of
> fast solid-state hard drive configured as a gjournal for a RAID10 (ie
> gstripe +gmirror) might achieve the same effect for rather less outlay... ?It
> would probably not be too shabby with RAID5 even, but of course you'ld
> lose the benefit of offloading parity calculations onto the RAID
> controller's CPU. Still, modern multi-core CPUs are probably fast enough nowadays to
> make that viable for many purposes.

Depending on the number of drives you are using, ZFS would also be
worth looking at.  The raidz implementation works quite nicely, and
(in theory) doesn't suffer from the major issues that RAID5/6 does.
It also does implicit striping across all vdevs, so you can make some
very fancy RAID layouts (each vdev can be mirrored, raidz1, raidz2, or
just a bunch of disks).

I don't know if the version of ZFS in FreeBSD 7.x supports hybrid
pools, but the version in FreeBSD 8.0 should, which lets you add SSDs
to the pool to be used automatically as "cache" in-between RAM and
harddrives.

-- 
Freddie Cash
fjwcash@gmail.com
From modulok at gmail.com  Wed May  6 20:52:14 2009
From: modulok at gmail.com (Modulok)
Date: Wed May  6 20:52:21 2009
Subject: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode?
Message-ID: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>

Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster...

Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a
system while in multi-user mode?

Thanks!
-Modulok-
From jos at webrz.net  Wed May  6 21:00:43 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Wed May  6 21:00:50 2009
Subject: NIC
In-Reply-To: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
References: <49FF4622.2020703@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <4A01FA94.4050502@webrz.net>

Dear all,

Thanks for your advise and suggestions; I have bought the Intel Pro/1000GT.

regards,
Jos Chrispijn
From admin at asarian-host.net  Wed May  6 21:01:03 2009
From: admin at asarian-host.net (Mark)
Date: Wed May  6 21:01:11 2009
Subject: php4 + php5
Message-ID: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net>

Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install both

mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: not every

webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per vhost) I like

the Apache server to use php5, though.

 

Thanks,

 

- Mark

From corky1951 at comcast.net  Wed May  6 21:12:53 2009
From: corky1951 at comcast.net (Charlie Kester)
Date: Wed May  6 21:13:00 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net>
References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net>
	<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
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On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote:
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
>
>> LMAO!  Touch?!  Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :)
>
>
> I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is  
> installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in
> the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows.

I suspect the OP was trolling.  The giveaway is his suggestion that
following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller".  This reflects
a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about.

Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus
has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to
increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make
whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal.

But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal.

FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD
Unix for the most common hardware.   New users who are looking for a BSD
Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of
doing things and not vice versa.  The current userbase is large enough
to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms.

As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already
been various ports of Basic over the years.  None of them seem to have
had much success.  BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell
scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of
which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does.  


From sonicy at otenet.gr  Wed May  6 21:24:33 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Wed May  6 21:24:40 2009
Subject: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode?
In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A02000E.4090206@otenet.gr>

Modulok wrote:
> Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster...
>
> Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a
> system while in multi-user mode?
>
> Thanks!
> -Modulok-
>   
Yes.  But you should schedule a reboot shortly afterwards.
From luvbeastie at larseighner.com  Wed May  6 21:41:18 2009
From: luvbeastie at larseighner.com (Lars Eighner)
Date: Wed May  6 21:41:25 2009
Subject: What make is in 7.1?
Message-ID: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>


When I do man make I get a man page and it includes references to
the pmake tutorial which seems to be basis of an HTMLize pmake
tutorial in one of the books.

But clearly the installed make is not the pmake described in the tutorial. 
The tutorial frequently suggest using Pmake -h for more details about 
particular points.  But in 7.1 make -h results in an illegal option message.
There is no pmake or Pmake.  There is a pmake port but it won't build in
7.1.

So it seems I have a lot of documentation for pmake, which clearly I don't
have and can't get.  Where is the documentation for the make I do have?

-- 
Lars Eighner
http://www.larseighner.com/index.html
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

From alexus at gmail.com  Wed May  6 21:47:41 2009
From: alexus at gmail.com (alexus)
Date: Wed May  6 21:47:47 2009
Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip
Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com>

i have many IPs assigned to my interface

is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another
(default) first one?

-- 
http://alexus.org/
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 21:53:38 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 21:53:45 2009
Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip
In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

Change your local routing table.  Also maybe NAT, IP Tables, PF, etc.
Policy Based Routing is the general term, but unless you want to do
tricky stuff, basic routing manipulation should work.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of alexus
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:40 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip

i have many IPs assigned to my interface

is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another
(default) first one?

-- 
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From heli at mikestammer.com  Wed May  6 21:57:08 2009
From: heli at mikestammer.com (Eric)
Date: Wed May  6 21:57:15 2009
Subject: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode?
In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>
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Modulok wrote:
> Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster...
> 
> Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a
> system while in multi-user mode?
> 
> Thanks!
> -Modulok-
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Thats the way i do it and havent had an issue yet. I always do 
installworld from single user mode tho.
From alexus at gmail.com  Wed May  6 22:04:25 2009
From: alexus at gmail.com (alexus)
Date: Wed May  6 22:04:31 2009
Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip
In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
References: <6ae50c2d0905061439t67de1b24p4343f376c8687e03@mail.gmail.com>
	<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBE7@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
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On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Gary Gatten <Ggatten@waddell.com> wrote:
> Change your local routing table. ?Also maybe NAT, IP Tables, PF, etc.
> Policy Based Routing is the general term, but unless you want to do
> tricky stuff, basic routing manipulation should work.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of alexus
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:40 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: forcing traffic into leaving from not first ip
>
> i have many IPs assigned to my interface
>
> is there a way to force traffic to leave from specific IP vs another
> (default) first one?
>
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nothin tricky, i basically have 2 jails running on some ips but i want
traffic to leave from other ips that those jails assigned too

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From jerrymc at msu.edu  Wed May  6 22:24:12 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Wed May  6 22:24:20 2009
Subject: basic
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On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:59:41PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote:

> On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote:
> >
> >On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
> >
> >>LMAO!  Touch?!  Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :)
> >
> >
> >I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is  
> >installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in
> >the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows.
> 
> I suspect the OP was trolling.  The giveaway is his suggestion that
> following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller".  This reflects
> a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about.
> 
> Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus
> has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to
> increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make
> whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal.
> 
> But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal.
> 
> FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD
> Unix for the most common hardware.   New users who are looking for a BSD
> Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of
> doing things and not vice versa.  The current userbase is large enough
> to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms.
> 
> As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already
> been various ports of Basic over the years.  None of them seem to have
> had much success.  BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell
> scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of
> which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does.  

The only thing I miss about basic was the ease of playing the speaker
on a pc.  I wrote a number of odd-scaled and timed loops in Basic many 
years ago - circa 1980, pre Visual Basic actually, as tests of the effects 
of tone intervals and tone spacing and wouldn't mind resurecting them and 
doing some more experimenting.   

I know there are all kinds of more sophisticated things available, but the 
simplicity of it then just suited what I was trying to do.  It would be 
easy enough to rewrite the loops in something like Perl, but is it as easy 
to make the tones and control the time intervals?   I don't remember seeing 
that other places.  

Otherwise, the only other reason for Basic nowdays, as far as I can see, 
is for nostalgia -- anyone remember PP coding on CDC 6000 and 170 series 
mainframes?  Now that's nostalgia.

////jerry


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From Ggatten at waddell.com  Wed May  6 22:50:56 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Wed May  6 22:51:02 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <20090506222321.GA96351@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <8315C22C-D4F4-46B7-9CB6-06F8C39BE18E@bsdhost.net><70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBDC@WADPEXV0.waddell.com><24AB5B8B-5243-4E1A-B0B1-50932CD3C8EC@bsdhost.net><20090506205940.GC54310@comcast.net>
	<20090506222321.GA96351@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBEB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

You're sick!  If it's not some killer RAD tool with OO everything and a pretty GUI to type in, who would write code in such a thing?

Yes - I'm being sarcastic!

Can we kill this thread now?  Pretty soon it will be like the PC-BSD thread and the "I must have a pretty GUI installer" thread!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jerry McAllister
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 5:23 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: basic

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 01:59:41PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote:

> On Wed 06 May 2009 at 13:15:34 PDT Fred C wrote:
> >
> >On May 6, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Gary Gatten wrote:
> >
> >>LMAO!  Touch?!  Seriously though, can't we all just get along? :)
> >
> >
> >I have no problem with linux I am using it every day at work it is  
> >installed on more than 2000 servers. But with all the incoherences in
> >the tools and the os, I feel sometime like I am working on Windows.
> 
> I suspect the OP was trolling.  The giveaway is his suggestion that
> following his advice would make FreeBSD a "best seller".  This reflects
> a complete lack of awareness of what FreeBSD is all about.
> 
> Setting aside the fact that FreeBSD is not a commercial product and thus
> has nothing to sell, he also presumes that our primary goal is to
> increase the size of our userbase and that we are willing to make
> whatever accommodations are necessary to achieve that goal.
> 
> But unless I'm mistaken, that isn't FreeBSD's goal.
> 
> FreeBSD's goal is to provide a freely-available implementation of BSD
> Unix for the most common hardware.   New users who are looking for a BSD
> Unix are welcome, but they are expected to adapt to FreeBSD's way of
> doing things and not vice versa.  The current userbase is large enough
> to suggest that many people have no problem with those terms.
> 
> As for the suggestion that what FreeBSD needs is VB, there have already
> been various ports of Basic over the years.  None of them seem to have
> had much success.  BSD users seem to be content with traditional shell
> scripting, perl, or newer scripting languages like python -- all of
> which better reflect the Unix philosophy than VB does.  

The only thing I miss about basic was the ease of playing the speaker
on a pc.  I wrote a number of odd-scaled and timed loops in Basic many 
years ago - circa 1980, pre Visual Basic actually, as tests of the effects 
of tone intervals and tone spacing and wouldn't mind resurecting them and 
doing some more experimenting.   

I know there are all kinds of more sophisticated things available, but the 
simplicity of it then just suited what I was trying to do.  It would be 
easy enough to rewrite the loops in something like Perl, but is it as easy 
to make the tones and control the time intervals?   I don't remember seeing 
that other places.  

Otherwise, the only other reason for Basic nowdays, as far as I can see, 
is for nostalgia -- anyone remember PP coding on CDC 6000 and 170 series 
mainframes?  Now that's nostalgia.

////jerry


> 
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From kalle.moller at gmail.com  Thu May  7 01:08:11 2009
From: kalle.moller at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?=)
Date: Thu May  7 01:08:18 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
Message-ID: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I'm looking for a generel guide / howto for maintaining a FreeBSD
system - not all the ports, just the base system. One that describe
how often you should update your port-tree, which basic ports like
audit you should have. Its a server I have that runs different
services, so I'm also looking for cronjobs that I could make the
system mail to me incase of something.

In very few words maintain automatic .

Hope you have some guides out there

-- 

Med Venlig Hilsen

Kalle R. M?ller
From Ggatten at waddell.com  Thu May  7 01:16:42 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Thu May  7 01:16:48 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBFF@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

Freebsd.org - docs; several docs there

----- Original Message -----
From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Sent: Wed May 06 19:43:07 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle

Hi

I'm looking for a generel guide / howto for maintaining a FreeBSD
system - not all the ports, just the base system. One that describe
how often you should update your port-tree, which basic ports like
audit you should have. Its a server I have that runs different
services, so I'm also looking for cronjobs that I could make the
system mail to me incase of something.

In very few words maintain automatic .

Hope you have some guides out there

-- 

Med Venlig Hilsen

Kalle R. M?ller
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From wsparrish at hotmail.com  Thu May  7 02:47:37 2009
From: wsparrish at hotmail.com (Scott Parrish)
Date: Thu May  7 02:48:24 2009
Subject: unable to boot with Nvidia AGP graphics card
Message-ID: <BLU148-W11E4E155E27C6E186FE6F5A8670@phx.gbl>


Hi all,
Recently my PCI graphics card failed on my Dell Dimension 4100.  I replaced it with a known good card I had lying around:  an Nvidia GeForce 3 TI200 with an AGP interface.  My FreeBSD installation will not boot with this graphics card.  The boot loader hangs at the twirling baton as follows:
/boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x43698 data=0x23c0+0x10f0
syms=[0x4+0x7ba0+0x4+0xa828]
\

I'm running 7.1-RELEASE generic kernel.
Anyone ever see anything like this before?  Any ideas on how I can debug?  Is there anything I can do with the loader prompt to see what is happening when this occurs?
The keyboard still seems responsive when this happens (the caps-lock, num-lock, etc. still work).  It is almost as if the boot loader is unsure how to send output to the AGP bus.  I have tweaked every possible setting in the very limited BIOS but nothing helps.
BTW, I know that my hardware is good because this is a dual boot system and I am able to boot into Windows just fine.  I am also able to run Linux from a live cd.  However, I also tried a FreeBSD install disk and it hangs at the same place.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
-William


_________________________________________________________________
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From chris at monochrome.org  Thu May  7 03:10:27 2009
From: chris at monochrome.org (Chris Hill)
Date: Thu May  7 03:10:35 2009
Subject: Java without CUPS
Message-ID: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org>

Hello list,

I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But 
some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. 
The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if 
there weren't more.

Could it be as simple as
   # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install
? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile 
for jdk16, and google was no help.

It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at 
installing unneccesary bloat on my system. If it can't be done I'll 
deal, but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible.

Thanks very much for any insight.

$ uname -mv
FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 
root@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

--
Chris Hill               chris@monochrome.org
**                     [ Busy Expunging <|> ]
From pathiaki2 at yahoo.com  Thu May  7 02:05:19 2009
From: pathiaki2 at yahoo.com (Paul Patterson)
Date: Thu May  7 03:30:01 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905062030300.34023@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com><alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
	<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905062030300.34023@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Sorry.  This statement is incorrect.

If you aren't using ZFS, or even a GEOM volume with mirror/RAID5/softup/etc, you cannot make the statement that hardware RAID is faster.  I learned that 3 years ago.

It takes about 30 minutes to mirror 1.5TB on ZFS.  Try that on hardware RAID.

I did the same with 80 GB SATA drives a couple of years ago.  Gmirror killed hardware mirror by 50%

When your processor on your hardware RAID card is junk and you have a kickass processor and good chunk of memory on your main system and decent controller that isn't getting maxed, the "hardware RAID is always faster" paradigm walked out the door a few years ago.

This does not go for EMC, IBM, Hitachi high-end storage arrays where you write to TBs of RAM Cache.

P.




________________________________
From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
To: Gary Gatten <Ggatten@waddell.com>
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Benjamin Krueger <benjamin@seattlefenix.net>; Olivier Mueller <om-lists-bsd@omx.ch>; freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:31:16 PM
Subject: RE: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data

> It could just be me, but I swear Hardware RAID has been faster for many
> many years, especially with RAID5 arrays - or anything that requires

maybe with RAID5, but using RAID5 today (huge disk sizes, little sense to save on disk space) instead of RAID1/10 doesn't make much sense, as RAID5 is slow on writes by design
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From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 03:31:50 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 03:31:58 2009
Subject: Java without CUPS
In-Reply-To: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org>
References: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org>
Message-ID: <20090507053140.6bf04539.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:52 -0400 (EDT), Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org> wrote:
> I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But 
> some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. 
> The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if 
> there weren't more.

Just as an information: Gimp (Gutenprint) installs CUPS, allthough
I already have apsfilter (HP Laserjet 4000 PCL). When printing,
Gimp still tries to "connect to server" (lpstat).



> Could it be as simple as
>    # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install
> ? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile 
> for jdk16, and google was no help.

I don't think it is possible. The Makefile lists CUPS as a build
dependency (UILD_DEPENDS):

	% grep -n "cups" /usr/ports/java/jdk16Makefile
	24: ${LOCALBASE}/include/cups/cups.h:${PORTSDIR}/print/cups-base

But I think it's possible to delete CUPS from the system after
JDK is compiled successfully: CUPS isn't listed in RUN_DEPENDS
so it doesn't seem to be required for running JDK / Java.



> It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at 
> installing unneccesary bloat on my system. If it can't be done I'll 
> deal, but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible.

Same here, too. :-) Philosophy behind the idea: I don't want to
install software that I don't need / don't run.




-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From pldrouin at pldrouin.net  Thu May  7 03:39:27 2009
From: pldrouin at pldrouin.net (Pierre-Luc Drouin)
Date: Thu May  7 03:39:56 2009
Subject: How to get the user time of another running process on FreeBSD?
Message-ID: <4A025398.8000303@pldrouin.net>

Hi,

I would like to know how I can get the user time of another running 
process on FreeBSD? Ideally I would like to find a solution that would 
work as well on other *nix systems. So far the solutions I have found 
are specific to a given OS (format of proc filesystem, 
lock_getcpuclockid)...

Thank you!
Pierre-Luc Drouin
From tajudd at gmail.com  Thu May  7 03:48:31 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Thu May  7 03:48:39 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905062048o3028e8a5jd7c222ed63f9a5dd@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Kalle M?ller <kalle.moller@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm looking for a generel guide / howto for maintaining a FreeBSD
> system - not all the ports, just the base system. One that describe
> how often you should update your port-tree, which basic ports like
> audit you should have. Its a server I have that runs different
> services, so I'm also looking for cronjobs that I could make the
> system mail to me incase of something.
>
> In very few words maintain automatic .
>
> Hope you have some guides out there
>
> --
>
> Med Venlig Hilsen
>
> Kalle R. M?ller
>


It will vary per person.  It will vary by said person's workload.  But I
tend to use a couple of basic principles.

1) NEVER let your system lapse to End of Life.
    a) it's easier now that freebsd-update exists and is part of base.
    b) reading the impact section in the security announcements that are
mailed to you, and if they affect you, perform the update immediately... not
"ASAP"
2) Install portaudit and watch the periodic mailings that are sent to you.
They list vulnerabilities in ports that really should be addressed.  Knowing
that for each notification portaudit sends to you, it WILL affect some
service.  Schedule the update ASAP, but I never let it go past a week.


The outline above is my own view, I don't expect anyone to share them, I
don't mind if they inherit them.

So you want to know when to update the ports tree?  when a vulnerability
exists and an updated/patched version of the port is then in the ports
tree.  portaudit gets fresh databsae updates, and rescans your ports at each
run of the periodic script.  Portaudit itself doesn't care about what
version the ports tree has, it cares about the version you have installed on
your box.



I dislike automation -- when something is automated and it fails, how
disastrous can it be?  What is missing, due to a failed automation?  Last
night my backup script at work didn't backup anything.  An unused tape was
reported as available, yet the backup didn't run.  I had no backups to work
off of.  This script worked fine for the past 3 months, why fail now?

Because of this, even if it IS more work, I tend to do things by hand.  Less
risk, IMHO.

Good luck, and ask questions if you need to.
From talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr  Thu May  7 03:55:27 2009
From: talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel Talon)
Date: Thu May  7 03:55:34 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
Message-ID: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>

Paul Schmehl wrote:

> I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD.  Last time I asked the
> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic. 

Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works:

niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf
[global]
auto_dir        = /.amd
log_file        = /var/log/amd.log
log_options     = error,fatal,user
map_type        = file
search_path     = /etc
[/Cd]
map_name        = amd.cdrom
# For nfs mounts
[/Net]
map_name        = amd.net



niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom
cdrom   type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom


niobe% cat /etc/amd.net
/defaults       type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key}
*               opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft

Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses
/etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd
it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access
/Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net.

Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and
so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is
mounted. After 
niobe% cd /Net/ada
i have:
niobe% df
...
ada:/ada                36196652  26972064  7356232    79% /.amd/ada/ada
ada:/ada1              287391356 246682696 26109996    90% /.amd/ada/ada1
ada:/ada2              288362876 180649856 93064956    66% /.amd/ada/ada2
ada:/ada3               99188500  80794628 13273960    86% /.amd/ada/ada3
ada:/adm                36204684   1682772 32653156     5% /.amd/ada/adm

Note that  autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can
see. 

Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted.

I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd.



-- 

Michel TALON

From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 04:26:47 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 04:26:54 2009
Subject: unable to boot with Nvidia AGP graphics card
In-Reply-To: <BLU148-W11E4E155E27C6E186FE6F5A8670@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU148-W11E4E155E27C6E186FE6F5A8670@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200905070626.43652.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 04:35:30 Scott Parrish wrote:
> Hi all,
> Recently my PCI graphics card failed on my Dell Dimension 4100.  I replaced
> it with a known good card I had lying around:  an Nvidia GeForce 3 TI200
> with an AGP interface.  My FreeBSD installation will not boot with this
> graphics card.  The boot loader hangs at the twirling baton as follows:
> /boot/kernel/acpi.ko text=0x43698 data=0x23c0+0x10f0
> syms=[0x4+0x7ba0+0x4+0xa828]
> \
>
> I'm running 7.1-RELEASE generic kernel.
> Anyone ever see anything like this before?  Any ideas on how I can debug? 

Most common cause is a faulty hints file, since you can't install from CD 
either, the GENERIC hints aren't working for this system. You could try 7.2-
RELEASE cd and file a PR otherwise. The dmesg from linux would be useful 
information in this PR.

> Is there anything I can do with the loader prompt to see what is happening
> when this occurs? The keyboard still seems responsive when this happens
> (the caps-lock, num-lock, etc. still work).  It is almost as if the boot
> loader is unsure how to send output to the AGP bus.

You can disable the AGP at loader prompt, similar to how one would do that in 
the hints file:
hint.agp.0.disabled="1"
-- 
Mel
From warren.guy at calorieking.com  Thu May  7 04:28:28 2009
From: warren.guy at calorieking.com (Warren Guy)
Date: Thu May  7 04:28:35 2009
Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an
 installed system
Message-ID: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for
developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed
FreeBSD system?

If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that
might be of use I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Warren

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From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 04:58:21 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 04:58:28 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905062048o3028e8a5jd7c222ed63f9a5dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905062048o3028e8a5jd7c222ed63f9a5dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 05:48:10 Tim Judd wrote:

> 2) Install portaudit and watch the periodic mailings that are sent to you.
> They list vulnerabilities in ports that really should be addressed. 

Not really. You can use the same common sense as with the base system and even 
more so (for the base system I just install them always, as it doesn't pay off 
in the long run to skip them). Portaudit for a (web)server has a lot of 
notifications that "are not critical", like several issues over the last year 
with php's safe mode that any sane webserver admin doesn't use.
-- 
Mel
From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 04:58:53 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 04:59:01 2009
Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an
 installed system
In-Reply-To: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
Message-ID: <20090507065844.d0e90f56.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 12:10:42 +0800, Warren Guy <warren.guy@calorieking.com> wrote:
> I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for
> developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed
> FreeBSD system?

One of the common (at least I think so) methods is using
the system's standard tools dump and restore. You create
the installation as you need it on a separate machine or
in a jailed environment, and you end up with partitions
as you want them to have on the machines for deployment.
Then you dump these partitions into files. On the (fresh)
machines, you boot into a minimal FreeBSD system that
allows you to read the dump files, from optical media,
tape, or across the network. First you slice, partition
and newfs the partitions (can easily be scripted if you
know what you want), then you restore the partitions (as
on the machine used for preparing them) from the dump
files.

That's for deploying. For maintaining... it's possible
to use a similar method where you only need to dump and
restore partitions where you did major changes. For minor
ones it should be sufficient to alter files "the usual
way" (can be scripted, too).



> If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that
> might be of use I would greatly appreciate it.

There has been a discussion thread some days ago on this
list which covers a bit of this topic (deploying).



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 05:06:12 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 05:06:19 2009
Subject: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode?
In-Reply-To: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64c038660905061352j7edfc484w594f9e06a9f1f7cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905070706.09296.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 22:52:12 Modulok wrote:
> Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster...
>
> Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a
> system while in multi-user mode?

It's the best and prefered way. Dropping to single user for installkernel has 
very little advantages, the running kernel doesn't change, only the on-disk 
version and if something goes wrong, you have full tools available to track 
the problem down.
-- 
Mel
From dnelson at allantgroup.com  Thu May  7 05:14:19 2009
From: dnelson at allantgroup.com (Dan Nelson)
Date: Thu May  7 05:14:26 2009
Subject: Java without CUPS
In-Reply-To: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org>
References: <20090506221421.N3109@tripel.monochrome.org>
Message-ID: <20090507045616.GH3371@dan.emsphone.com>

In the last episode (May 06), Chris Hill said:
> I know that, since my printer speaks Postscript, I don't need CUPS. But
> some of the ports I'm installing want to install CUPS as a dependency. 
> The first one I happened across was java/jdk16, but I'd be surprised if
> there weren't more.
> 
> Could it be as simple as
>    # make -DWITHOUT_CUPS install
> ? I see no such possibility in either the config options or the Makefile 
> for jdk16, and google was no help.
> 
> It's not like the disk space costs anything nowadays, but I chafe at
> installing unneccesary bloat on my system.  If it can't be done I'll deal,
> but I'd like to stay CUPS-free if possible.

Take a look at PR 120718.  The same files work for the jdk7 tree, too, if
you happen to track that.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@allantgroup.com
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Thu May  7 06:29:27 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Thu May  7 06:29:35 2009
Subject: php4 + php5
In-Reply-To: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net>
References: <200905062101.n46KYajh086945@asarian-host.net>
Message-ID: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Mark wrote:
> Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install both
> 
> mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5: not every
> 
> webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per vhost) I like
> 
> the Apache server to use php5, though.


No.  At least, not within the current ports system.  Quite apart from
anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over
installing files to certain locations.  I'm also not certain that 
loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache
is viable.

The standard answer to this sort of problem is to use multiple instances
of apache.  There's support in the rc scripts to do that[*] -- you'll have
to work out a mechanism (proxying, running different instances on
different IP numbers or ports, etc.) to get the web traffic into the correct
apache instance.

However, the conflicts between php4 and php5 make this unfeasible, and
probably the solution here is to use separately jailed instances of apache.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

[*] Well, there certainly is for apache22 -- I assume that the same applies
to the other apache versions in the ports.

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
                                                  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
                                                  Kent, CT11 9PW

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From raghu at mri.ernet.in  Thu May  7 06:41:48 2009
From: raghu at mri.ernet.in (N. Raghavendra)
Date: Thu May  7 06:41:57 2009
Subject: ReturnCode Checking for FTP
In-Reply-To: <OFC2C1BBE0.21B6D28C-ON852575AE.0054A36E-852575AE.00567F9E@nyx.com>
	(Eddie Chen's message of "Wed, 6 May 2009 11:44:46 -0400")
References: <OFC2C1BBE0.21B6D28C-ON852575AE.0054A36E-852575AE.00567F9E@nyx.com>
Message-ID: <86hbzxmn7a.fsf@riemann.mri.ernet.in>

At 2009-05-06T11:44:46-04:00, Eddie Chen wrote:

> Reading the  ftp commands seems to be better, because it will exit(rc)
> if any of  "put" or "rename" failed.

Perhaps you've already looked at `lftp', http://lftp.yar.ru/

Exit codes of its commands can be used from the shell, e.g., as
follows:

% set SERVER="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/"

% lftp -c "open -e 'cat README.TXT' ${SERVER}" > /dev/null && echo "OK"
OK

% lftp -c "open -e 'cat NOEXIST' ${SERVER}" || echo "FAILED"
FAILED

Further, lftp commands themselves can use the exit codes of previous
commands:

% lftp -c "open -e 'ls foo && ls misc' ${SERVER}"
ls: Access failed: 404 Not Found (foo)   

% lftp -c "open -e 'ls foo || ls misc' ${SERVER}"
ls: Access failed: 404 Not Found (foo)   
drwxr-xr-x  --  ~
drwxr-xr-x  --  ~/pub
drwxr-xr-x  --  ..
drwxr-xr-x  --  .
drwxr-xr-x            -  2007-11-02 00:00  fbsd-compat
-rw-r--r--           1k  2002-04-03 00:00  supfile

HTH,
Raghavendra.

-- 
N. Raghavendra <raghu@mri.ernet.in> | http://www.retrotexts.net/
Harish-Chandra Research Institute   | http://www.mri.ernet.in/
See message headers for contact and OpenPGP information.
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 07:03:40 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 07:03:48 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
	<20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 21:09:07 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > 10 GOTO 10
> >
> > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" <gio.nov@vodafone.it> 
wrote:
> > > Do you want obtain new market share?
> > >
> > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a
> > > best seller
> >
> > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals.
>
> Everyone is a beginner sometime.   So, FreeBSD is for beginners.
> Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you.

What he means is that FreeBSD does no hand holding or hide stuff "because you 
don't need access to it anyway". Also, there aren't many that started 
computing on FreeBSD.
-- 
Mel
From mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk  Thu May  7 07:37:49 2009
From: mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk (Marc Coyles)
Date: Thu May  7 07:37:57 2009
Subject: Dump snapshot issue...
In-Reply-To: <20090506190619.GB95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <00d301c9cd65$62298910$267c9b30$@wakefield.sch.uk>	<44pren4cy5.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>	<009401c9ce29$42b9bea0$c82d3be0$@wakefield.sch.uk>
	<20090506190619.GB95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <007001c9cee6$a689f9f0$f39dedd0$@wakefield.sch.uk>

> Is /home really a separate file system on your system?
> Or is it just a directory in another filesystem?

df -h output:

Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a    3.9G    351M    3.2G    10%    /
devfs          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
/dev/da0s1g     98G     13G     77G    14%    /home
/dev/da0s1d    7.7G    136K    7.1G     0%    /tmp
/dev/da0s1e    9.7G    5.6G    3.3G    63%    /usr
/dev/da0s1f    9.7G    1.3G    7.6G    15%    /var
/dev/da1s1d    133G     40G     82G    33%    /backup
devfs          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/named/dev
procfs         4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc


Marci


From kenneth.hatteland at kleppnett.no  Thu May  7 08:16:58 2009
From: kenneth.hatteland at kleppnett.no (kenneth hatteland)
Date: Thu May  7 08:17:14 2009
Subject: abiword
Message-ID: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no>

I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with  abiword 
installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled and 
unreadable. Have searched the net and the few  abiword forums I can find 
but nowhere  does it say  what nob  is unturned on  my freebsd 
installs.  winxp and linux machines opens  such documents ok. Anyone 
using this and know something wise ?
OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr so 
it won` t build.

blessed be
Kenneth, norway
From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 08:49:06 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 08:49:13 2009
Subject: abiword
In-Reply-To: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no>
References: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no>
Message-ID: <20090507104856.ad6dcd3b.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200, kenneth hatteland <kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no> wrote:
> I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with  abiword 
> installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled and 
> unreadable.

Maybe this is due to a defective .DOC file (quick save disaster,
memory dump); possible that Abiword isn't as fault tolerant as
OpenOffice.



> [...] linux machines opens  such documents ok.

In Abiword as well? Same version?



> OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr so 
> it won` t build.

Better install from a package via the pkg_add command.



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Thu May  7 10:00:17 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Thu May  7 10:00:29 2009
Subject: isc-dhcp logging and status query
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071150550.38577@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

FreeBSD7-amd64:
I set up /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp30-server 
for static IP addresses (based on the MacAddress)
This works, but I wonder where I can see information of the status?

1. The doc says I should see dhcp log messages (default in /var/log/messages)
but I see nothing about dhcp in /var/log/messages.
(I wonder where they are now, before hacking /etc/syslog.conf)

2. Is there any tool to see what Statically assigned IP address are handed
out at a given time?
(I also see nothing in /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases file execpt comments)


From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 10:34:18 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 10:34:25 2009
Subject: isc-dhcp logging and status query
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071150550.38577@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071150550.38577@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <200905071234.15523.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 12:00:10 Pieter Donche wrote:

> 2. Is there any tool to see what Statically assigned IP address are handed
> out at a given time?
> (I also see nothing in /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases file execpt comments)

Add omapi-port 7911; to dhcpd.conf.

Then, as follows:
$ omshell
> connect
obj: <null>
> new lease
obj: lease
> set ip-address = 192.168.2.253
obj: lease
ip-address = c0:a8:02:fd
> open
obj: lease
ip-address = c0:a8:02:fd
state = 00:00:00:02
client-hostname = "impy"
<snip more info>

See omshell(1) for more info. Install isc-dhcp30-relay to get the omapi(3) and 
dhcpctl(3) programming interfaces to roll your own tools.
-- 
Mel
From mexas at bristol.ac.uk  Thu May  7 11:16:36 2009
From: mexas at bristol.ac.uk (Anton Shterenlikht)
Date: Thu May  7 11:16:45 2009
Subject: make - reassign variable using if-then ?
In-Reply-To: <200905061740.41949.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <20090506083152.GA48658@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
	<200905061115.07888.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
	<20090506093117.GA64688@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>
	<200905061740.41949.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <20090507111622.GA7289@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk>

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:40:41PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 11:31:17 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to build gcc43 on alpha 6.4.
> > In /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile I have:
> >
> > # grep NOT_FOR_ARCHS /usr/ports/lang/gcc43/Makefile
> > NOT_FOR_ARCHS=  alpha ia64 powerpc
> > #
> >
> > In /etc/make.conf I have:
> >
> > .if ${.CURDIR:M*/lang/gcc43*}
> > NOT_FOR_ARCHS= ia64
> > USE_GCC=4.3+
> > .endif
> >
> > This used to work fine until some update. Not anymore.
> > The second setting is being used, i.e. the port is being built
> > with gcc43. But the NOT_FOR_ARCHS is not changed, so I have
> > to do it manually each time.
> >
> > So I tried to experiment with changing variable values withing if-then.
> 
> Your only option is overriding in /usr/portslang/gcc43/Makefile.local. This is 
> because make.conf is read *before* the Makefile and the Makefile simply 
> overrides your values. Makefile.local is read *after* the Makefile.
> csup will leave it alone, however portsnap will delete the entire directory 
> before upgrading the port, so your Makefile.local will be shot.

ok, thanks, that works, I do use cvsup.

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
From lhecking at users.sourceforge.net  Thu May  7 11:17:45 2009
From: lhecking at users.sourceforge.net (Lars Hecking)
Date: Thu May  7 11:17:52 2009
Subject: 7.2 = no sound
Message-ID: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com>


 I upgraded my system to 7.2 with cvsup, and sound has stopped working. I'm
 running gnome, and both

 esound-0.2.41       A sound library for enlightenment package
 pulseaudio-0.9.14_5 Sound server for UNIX

 are installed.

 Both esd and pulseaudio are running

root        1182  0.0  0.1  3372  1140 con- I    10:37PM   0:00.01 /usr/local/bin/esd
user    1508  0.0  0.3 78224  5804  ??  Is   11:09PM   0:00.26 /usr/local/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
user    1509  0.0  0.2 10772  4892  ??  I    11:09PM   0:00.01 /usr/local/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper

 which doesn't seem right to me, but turning off esd does not help, and I don't
 know how to turn off pulseaudio.

 So I went through
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

 Sound module loaded: yes

# kldstat |grep snd
 4    1 0xc09d6000 1abf8    snd_hda.ko

# cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:3v/1r:1v channels duplex default)
pcm1: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels)

 dmesg:

pcm0: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm1: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0

 However, I have no /dev/dsp:

# ll /dev/dsp*
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 115 May  6 22:37 /dev/dsp0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 117 May  6 22:37 /dev/dsp0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 118 May  6 23:16 /dev/dsp0.2
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 119 May  6 23:21 /dev/dsp0.3
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 120 May  6 23:21 /dev/dsp0.4
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 116 May  6 22:37 /dev/dsp1.0

# fstat |grep dsp
root     esd         1182    5 /dev        115 crw-rw-rw-  dsp0.0  w

 Where do I go from here?


From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Thu May  7 12:02:48 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Thu May  7 12:02:58 2009
Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an
 installed system
In-Reply-To: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
Message-ID: <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

Warren Guy <warren.guy@calorieking.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm just wondering if there is an established best practice for
> developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an installed
> FreeBSD system?
> 
> If anyone can point me towards documentation or any other resources that
> might be of use I would greatly appreciate it.

One of the tools we've been using extensively is FreeBSD's jail system.
Especially with the ezjail port, it's pretty easy to have a backup tarball
of each "system" that can then be easily deployed to another server if
needed.

It also makes it easy to migrate "servers" to other hardware in order to
do upgrades, or re-balance workload if one particular piece of hardware
is getting over or under utilized.

The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and
add users for the administrators.  All the ports and details of their
configs are in the individual jails.  It's much more efficient than using
something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Thu May  7 12:16:33 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Thu May  7 12:16:42 2009
Subject: Maintaining a FreeBSD system - Workcycle
In-Reply-To: <200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <8250ac3f0905061743l21a9a87fv9ca3aa50cb176873@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905062048o3028e8a5jd7c222ed63f9a5dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905070658.18661.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071142070.39932@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> more so (for the base system I just install them always, as it doesn't pay off
> in the long run to skip them). Portaudit for a (web)server has a lot of
> notifications that "are not critical", like several issues over the last year
> with php's safe mode that any sane webserver admin doesn't use.

i don't know really what's PHP safe mode, just if someone says he/she 
needs PHP i make separate jail, and configure whatever she/he wants.

it for sure have a lots of bugs (in PHP directly), and even more security 
holes by stupidly designed webpage he/she will put, but i don't care.

it will not hurt anyone else ;)
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Thu May  7 12:16:45 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Thu May  7 12:28:08 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
	<20090506084834.61600c42.wmoran@potentialtech.com><alpine.BSF.2.00.0905061734380.32591@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4A01C202.8080803@seattlefenix.net>
	<70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EBD1@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905062030300.34023@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<83156.91671.qm@web110507.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071139560.39932@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> If you aren't using ZFS, or even a GEOM volume with mirror/RAID5/softup/etc,
> you cannot make the statement that hardware RAID is faster.  I learned 
> that 3 years ago.

i state exactly opposite. all hardware raid cards are made just to suck 
money from those who believe in it.

like "performance is not enough - buy better/more expensive model."

> This does not go for EMC, IBM, Hitachi high-end storage arrays where you write to TBs of RAM Cache.
having same amount of extra memory on FreeBSD server directly will make 
better use of it.
From ianf at ozemail.com.au  Thu May  7 12:28:43 2009
From: ianf at ozemail.com.au (Ian Fitzgerald)
Date: Thu May  7 12:28:50 2009
Subject: /etc/ttys
Message-ID: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>

Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place 
where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2


Thanks
ianf

From steve at ibctech.ca  Thu May  7 12:33:28 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Thu May  7 12:33:35 2009
Subject: /etc/ttys
In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>
References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <4A02D50D.7080505@ibctech.ca>

Ian Fitzgerald wrote:
> Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place
> where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2

In it's entirety:

http://ibctech.ca/ttys

Steve
From cpghost at cordula.ws  Thu May  7 12:33:35 2009
From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost)
Date: Thu May  7 12:33:42 2009
Subject: 7.2 = no sound
In-Reply-To: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com>
References: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com>
Message-ID: <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws>

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 11:50:27AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote:
>  I upgraded my system to 7.2 with cvsup, and sound has stopped working. I'm
>  running gnome, and both

(...)

>  Sound module loaded: yes
> 
> # kldstat |grep snd
>  4    1 0xc09d6000 1abf8    snd_hda.ko
> 
> # cat /dev/sndstat 
> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
> Installed devices:
> pcm0: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:3v/1r:1v channels duplex default)
> pcm1: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels)
> 
>  dmesg:
> 
> pcm0: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
> pcm1: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0

Have you tried to set hw.snd.default_unit to the right port?

>From snd_hda(4):

 The default audio device may be tuned by setting the hw.snd.default_unit
 sysctl, as described in sound(4), or explicitly specified in application
 settings.

That's the most common cause for sound problems after the snd_hda
upgrade.

-cpghost.

-- 
Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/
From danielby at slightlystrange.org  Thu May  7 12:40:22 2009
From: danielby at slightlystrange.org (Daniel Bye)
Date: Thu May  7 12:40:52 2009
Subject: /etc/ttys
In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>
References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <20090507124008.GB46153@torus.slightlystrange.org>

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 10:18:03PM +1000, Ian Fitzgerald wrote:
> Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place 
> where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2

/usr/share/examples/etc/ttys

-- 
Daniel Bye
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From glarkin at FreeBSD.org  Thu May  7 12:44:50 2009
From: glarkin at FreeBSD.org (Greg Larkin)
Date: Thu May  7 12:45:21 2009
Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an
 installed system
In-Reply-To: <20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
	<20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org>

Bill Moran wrote:
[...]
> 
> The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and
> add users for the administrators.  All the ports and details of their
> configs are in the individual jails.  It's much more efficient than using
> something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties.
> 

Hi Bill,

We've been using VMware with FreeBSD guests for a few years now without
any performance problems. In fact, jails even work well within a FreeBSD
VM.  What kinds of problems have you run into?

Responding to the original question, we solved it by creating a FreeBSD
VM and storing it as a template in VMware VirtualCenter.  Whenever a new
VM is needed, the template is deployed and customized with memory, extra
disk space, IP address, etc.

You can take it further by implementing a tool like Puppet, cfengine or
Chef to perform the post-deployment configuration and keep the various
recipe files under source control:

http://reductivelabs.com/products/puppet/ (in the ports tree)
http://www.cfengine.org/ (in the ports tree)
http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Home (not in the ports tree)

Cheers,
Greg

-- 
Greg Larkin
http://www.FreeBSD.org/
http://twitter.com/sourcehosting

From bsam at ipt.ru  Thu May  7 12:47:54 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Thu May  7 12:48:03 2009
Subject: /etc/ttys
In-Reply-To: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au> (Ian Fitzgerald's message of
	"Thu\, 07 May 2009 22\:18\:03 +1000")
References: <4A02D17B.5020600@ozemail.com.au>
Message-ID: <14057078@bb.ipt.ru>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 22:18:03 +1000 Ian Fitzgerald wrote:

> Dumb question because of dumb action: can anyone point me to a place
> where I can find a copy of /etc/ttys? - suitable for FreeBSD v7.2

/usr/share/examples/etc/ttys


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From nvass9573 at gmx.com  Thu May  7 13:13:17 2009
From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis)
Date: Thu May  7 13:13:26 2009
Subject: multiple PPPoE connections on one machine (DSL load balancing)
In-Reply-To: <0E40EC5D-8DC1-4DD9-9047-01212E98BE1A@visionarytechnical.com>
References: <0E40EC5D-8DC1-4DD9-9047-01212E98BE1A@visionarytechnical.com>
Message-ID: <4A02DE54.7070309@gmx.com>

Jeff Croft wrote:
> Hello --
> 
> I'm configuring FreeBSD 7.1 as a router/load-balancer and I just got 
> stuck. I know this sounds like a newbie question, but hear me out.
> 
> I have three DSL line (AT&T in SF Bay Area, business class) connected 
> via ethernet to the box, and one more ethernet connected to an internal 
> network. The idea is to do some clever kind of load-balancing and/or 
> logging of DSL connections using pf.
> 
> All three DSL lines are configured to use PPPoE. I can successfully 
> bring any one of them up individually, but when I try to bring more than 
> one up, using either ppp or mpd5, I get an error that looks like this 
> (example from ppp):
> 
> ppp : tun0: Warning: iface add: ioctl(SIOCAIFADDR, X.X.X.X  -> D.D.D.D 
> ): File exists
> 
> and then the 2nd link goes down. mpd5 says the same thing, but the error 
> is slightly different. For all three point-to-point links the remote 
> side of the point to point (D.D.D.D) is always the same IP address, so 
> naturally it doesn't want to add multiple routing table entries which 
> point to the same destination.
> 
> The vendor claims to be unable to change the value of D.D.D.D because 
> "everyone in your region has the same remote address." They also don't 
> support mlppp, so multilink is out.

Did you try multilink PPP? they might not support, but it may work
anyway...

> Also, I would like easy, real-time, programmatic access to the IP 
> address of each individual DSL line.
> 
> So far, I've thought of the following workarounds:
> 
> 1. Use cheap linksys boxen to hang off each DSL line so the FreeBSD 
> network stack doesn't have to do the PPPoE. I'm concerned that they'll 
> be able to handle the volume of individual connections I'm planning on, 
> even with the firmware replaced with something decent. Plus it's three 
> extra devices on my network!
> 2. Use network virtualization such as this. I don't have any experience 
> with it, but I'm guessing it would do everything I want.
> http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas how to solve this problem more elegantly?

Not elegantly, but you can change the remote peer address to something 
else. That is:
1) Bring up tun0, you get from IPCP 1.1.1.1 -> 2.2.2.2
	ifconfig tun0 1.1.1.1 3.3.3.3

2) Bring up tun1, you get 1.1.1.2 -> 2.2.2.2
	ifconfig tun1 1.1.1.2 4.4.4.4

3) Bring up tun2, you get 1.1.1.3 -> 2.2.2.2

The result will be:
tun0 1.1.1.1 3.3.3.3
tun1 1.1.1.2 4.4.4.4
tun2 1.1.1.3 2.2.2.2

You'll need to write a custom script, to modify
the addresses, I think both ppp and mpd can do that.

Are you going to use pf's route-to to forward packets
to all three interfaces? Since, the above hack doesn't
"solve" the next hop problem. You can only have one
next hop for each destination. On -CURRENT there is
support for ECMP, which may be a complete and correct
solution for this problem.

HTH, Nikos
From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Thu May  7 13:13:39 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Thu May  7 13:13:46 2009
Subject: Developing and maintaining a rapidly deployable image of an
 installed system
In-Reply-To: <4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org>
References: <4A025F42.50308@calorieking.com>
	<20090507080157.93c8e5ee.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<4A02D7B4.5070705@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <20090507091336.5cdc3101.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Greg Larkin <glarkin@FreeBSD.org>:

> Bill Moran wrote:
> [...]
> > 
> > The host system is a very basic install -- mostly just give it an IP and
> > add users for the administrators.  All the ports and details of their
> > configs are in the individual jails.  It's much more efficient than using
> > something like VMware, which has horrific performance penalties.
> > 
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> We've been using VMware with FreeBSD guests for a few years now without
> any performance problems. In fact, jails even work well within a FreeBSD
> VM.  What kinds of problems have you run into?

Really?  Do you have any machines with more than 30 virtual systems on
them?  Even our beefiest hardware can't handle more than 10 VMWare
machines.

We use both jails and VMWare.  Each has it's pros and cons.  The big
pro of VMWare is that you can simulate an entire piece of hardware,
which is necessary for much of our lab and testing work.  The big con
of VMWare is performance and overhead.  Another big pro of VMWare is
that we can have FreeBSD, and Linux, and MS operating systems all
running on the same hypervisor, which jails can't do.

The big pro of jails is that we can put a crapload of jails on each
physical server.  Six or 8 is typical, but we have systems with more
than 30 humming along happily.  Each jail uses far less disk space
than a virtual machine, and uses far less CPU.  Also, the jail
mechanism puts fewer layers between the OS and the hardware, which
means things like network and disk performance suffer very little.

Take two equivalent machines and put a FreeBSD jail on one and
FreeBSD in a virtual machine on the other and benchmark the network
and disk performance on each.  You'll find that VMWare loses big time.
If that's not enough to convince you, then increase the number of
systems on each machine to about 10 and rerun the tests while the
systems are under load -- VMWare doesn't scale up nearly as well
as jails do.  If you're doing purely CPU usage, then the two options
appear to be roughly equivalent, although I've never done an actual
test.

Restarting a jail takes seconds, restarting a VM takes minutes.

We've frequently had to go through our dev servers and shut down
VMWare virtual machines to free up resources when a few of the VMs
were seeing heavy usage.  We've had the same problem with jails far
less frequently.

Like I said earlier, VMWare has its advantages, but performance is
not one of them.

And yes, we have VMWare VMs with FreeBSD jails inside them.  It's a
bizarre combination, but it works quite well ... right up until
someone wants to load up one of the PostgreSQL servers and the disk
issue brings the system to its knees ... that's actually a pretty
good benchmark to illustrate the problem: pgbench will show how much
VMWare hurts disk performance right out of the gate.

I guess the overall issues are more with scalability than performance,
but the two issues are linked in such a way that I frequently don't
separate them.  VMWare starts with a minor performance hit compared
to jails, that performance hit increases significantly as you add
VMs, whereas jails scale up very well.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:14:26 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Thu May  7 13:14:34 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>

Every time I log in to xfce, it throws a warning that it cannot lookup
"bsdbox" (which is my hostname as defined in rc.conf). The warning
dialog suggests altering /etc/hosts to fix the problem. In fact, it's
not a "problem" because my WAN connectivity is fine, but I still want
to resolve this.

In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing:

localhost localhost.my.domain

Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without
a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace
"my.domain".

What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this
(note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can
replace "my.domain" with?

Pardon my very limited understanding of networking concepts :)

Thanks,
Daniel
From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 13:32:48 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 13:32:55 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:14:24 -0400, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing:
> 
> localhost localhost.my.domain

Really? No IP? I mean like

	::1		localhost
	127.0.0.1	localhost
	127.0.0.1	bsdbox.local bsdbox
	127.0.0.1	bsdbox.local.


 
> Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without
> a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace
> "my.domain".

You can replace it with anything that doesn't resolve, such
as ".local", ".localdomain", ".dingenskirchens"... :-)



> What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this
> (note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can
> replace "my.domain" with?

It's important that /etc/hosts defines the values for
localhost and your selected hostname (bsdbox), at least
with the 127.0.0.1 IP. You can add further IPs with the
same name if your machine spans a LAN (such as from
192.168.1.1).

You can check everything with

	% host localhost

and

	% host bsdbox

so it should resolve to 127.0.0.1.


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:34:57 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Thu May  7 13:35:04 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905070634p32f22c1m5086061fbd1c8178@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> Every time I log in to xfce, it throws a warning that it cannot lookup
> "bsdbox" (which is my hostname as defined in rc.conf). The warning
> dialog suggests altering /etc/hosts to fix the problem. In fact, it's
> not a "problem" because my WAN connectivity is fine, but I still want
> to resolve this.
>
> In /etc/hosts there are two lines containing:
>
> localhost localhost.my.domain
>
> Since I'm connecting to the Internet through a dynamic-IP ISP without
> a reserved domain name, I have nothing with which to replace
> "my.domain".
>
> What should I do to resolve this issue? In a situation like this
> (note: I am behind a home router), is there actually anything I can
> replace "my.domain" with?
>
> Pardon my very limited understanding of networking concepts :)
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
>  <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>


Try adding the following line to /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1     bsdbox     bsdbox.my.domain

Do not delete the localhost lines.

Andrew
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:38:01 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Thu May  7 13:38:09 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>

> Really? No IP? I mean like
>
>        ::1             localhost
>        127.0.0.1       localhost
>        127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local bsdbox
>        127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local.

Right, I realize I was unclear. I just meant that two lines contained
"localhost localhost.my.domain", not that they ONLY contained that
phrase.  So, yes, I'm referring to the lines starting with "::1" and
"127.0.0.1".

Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice.  Since I set
hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances
in /etc/ttys ?

Thanks,
Daniel
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:38:50 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Thu May  7 13:38:56 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905070638of007777y4c2076d4cc0f2b03@mail.gmail.com>

*Correction*

In previous email, "/etc/ttys" --> "/etc/hosts".
From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Thu May  7 13:40:37 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Thu May  7 13:40:44 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905070640u57b516a7pe005d9627536248f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> > Really? No IP? I mean like
> >
> >        ::1             localhost
> >        127.0.0.1       localhost
> >        127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local bsdbox
> >        127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local.
>
> Right, I realize I was unclear. I just meant that two lines contained
> "localhost localhost.my.domain", not that they ONLY contained that
> phrase.  So, yes, I'm referring to the lines starting with "::1" and
> "127.0.0.1".
>
> Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice.  Since I set
> hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances
> in /etc/ttys ?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>

I don't think you should touch /etc/ttys for this problem.

Andrew
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Thu May  7 13:54:12 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Thu May  7 13:54:18 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
	<20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 09:03:36AM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:

> On Wednesday 06 May 2009 21:09:07 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:00:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> > > 10 GOTO 10
> > >
> > > On Wed, 6 May 2009 14:32:47 +0200, "giorgio novello" <gio.nov@vodafone.it> 
> wrote:
> > > > Do you want obtain new market share?
> > > >
> > > > Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a
> > > > best seller
> > >
> > > FreeBSD isn't for beginners, it's for professionals.
> >
> > Everyone is a beginner sometime.   So, FreeBSD is for beginners.
> > Otherwise there would be no FreeBSD --- or you.
> 
> What he means is that FreeBSD does no hand holding or hide stuff "because you 
> don't need access to it anyway". Also, there aren't many that started 
> computing on FreeBSD.

I know what he thinks he means.   But, what he says is that 
improvements are against the ethic of FreeBSD and that simply
is not true.

////jerry


> -- 
> Mel
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From traveling08 at cox.net  Thu May  7 14:03:42 2009
From: traveling08 at cox.net (Robert)
Date: Thu May  7 14:03:48 2009
Subject: abiword
In-Reply-To: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no>
References: <4A0298ED.5010201@kleppnett.no>
Message-ID: <20090507065007.0a6f0639@vaio>

On Thu, 07 May 2009 10:16:45 +0200
kenneth hatteland <kenneth.hatteland@kleppnett.no> wrote:

> I am having serious problems getting my freebsd machines with
> abiword installed to open .doc files. Text becomes totally garbled
> and unreadable. Have searched the net and the few  abiword forums I
> can find but nowhere  does it say  what nob  is unturned on  my
> freebsd installs.  winxp and linux machines opens  such documents ok.
> Anyone using this and know something wise ?
> OpenOffice would be an alternative, but I only have 4gb left of /usr
> so it won` t build.
> 
> blessed be
> Kenneth, norway

Hello Kenneth

I too had this problem with abiword and FreeBSD. Well, it is still
there but I have worked around it. 

This is part of email I from the abiword list that I started.

	I found that I could then use the bitstream-vera fonts without
	any trouble. I then edited the normal.awt file locater
	at /usr/local/share/abiword-2.6/templates/ from Times New Roman
	to Bitstream Charter. 

	Now I can create new documents and when I pull in an existing
	document I can "select all" and change it to Bitstream Charter.
	It definitely is a bandaid fix.

	All of the other files in directories
	at /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/ are gz files. I am not a
	programmer but I would _guess_ the Xorg upgrade is not opening
	those gz files for use by abiword. 

	Long story short, I am able to use abiword and can live with
	this.

I know this is not the solution you are looking for but it can help you
be productive. I am not sure but I think this started with the recent
update of Xorg. 

Abiword 2.7.0 has been released and when the port is updated I am
hoping this problem is solved.

I hope this helps

Robert
From freebsd.lists at fsck.ch  Thu May  7 14:13:07 2009
From: freebsd.lists at fsck.ch (Tobias Roth)
Date: Thu May  7 14:13:15 2009
Subject: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA g_eli_read_done(
Message-ID: <4A02E7A2.3010905@fsck.ch>

Hi

I got these log messages:


May  7 15:41:32 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA
status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=40<UNCORRECTABLE> LBA=31833792
May  7 15:41:32 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed
ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)]
May  7 15:41:32 default kernel:
g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=65536)]error = 5
May  7 15:41:36 default kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA
status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=40<UNCORRECTABLE> LBA=31833792
May  7 15:41:36 default kernel: GEOM_ELI: g_eli_read_done() failed
ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)]
May  7 15:41:36 default kernel:
g_vfs_done():ad0s2d.eli[READ(offset=1806532608, length=16384)]error = 5

Should I be worried? I my disk dying? I know which file causes the error
when read, and it's not an important one. Can I just delete it and go
on, or will this haunt me in the near future?

Thanks,
Tobias

-- 
Tobias Roth   ||   http://fsck.ch   ||   PGP: 0xCE599B4D
| The "c" in "rap" is silent.
From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 14:28:05 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 14:28:12 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090507153239.600e1208.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<b6c05a470905070637g156ebd4ak38269d6a4711d2cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507162754.9a285eb4.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:37:59 -0400, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let me make sure I understand (part of) your advice.  Since I set
> hostname="bsdbox" in rc.conf, I should replace "localhost" instances
> in /etc/ttys ?

No, the name "localhost" should be in your /etc/hosts,
along with the hostname you selected. In this case,
something like

	# for localhost:
	::1             localhost
	127.0.0.1       localhost
	# for your hostname:
	127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local bsdbox
	127.0.0.1       bsdbox.local.

would be okay. You can use ".my.domain" instead of ".local";
".localdomain" is okay, too.


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From freebsd at edvax.de  Thu May  7 14:33:45 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Thu May  7 14:33:52 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
	<20090506180032.e040df68.freebsd@edvax.de>
	<20090506190906.GC95433@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<200905070903.36706.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
	<20090507135319.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <20090507163325.31fbe1b9.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 09:53:19 -0400, Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> I know what he thinks he means.   But, what he says is that 
> improvements are against the ethic of FreeBSD and that simply
> is not true.

Never said such thing. In fact, there are many improvements
I'd like to see in FreeBSD, as well as in the applications
provided for this OS (which tend to be sponsored by Bloaty
more and more).

FreeBSD is in fact an excellent OS for beginners, because
it teaches the basics - the things that are REALLY important
when you want to do something with computers, expecially
when you want to do this as a job to make money with it.
Stupidly clicking on squeaking and dancing buttons is
nothing intelligency is needed for. FreeBSD, on the other
hand, improves learning habits, extends knowledge and leads
to precious experiences.

I don't know much about the "ethic of FreeBSD", because I
use it as an OS, not as a church. :-)



-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Thu May  7 14:42:21 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Thu May  7 14:42:28 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server.
It hands out an IP address, OK,
but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. 
Why?

(A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried 
from a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname 
associated with the IP-address)

From mail at ozzmosis.com  Thu May  7 14:54:30 2009
From: mail at ozzmosis.com (andrew clarke)
Date: Thu May  7 14:54:42 2009
Subject: basic
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
References: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALFY9ZyFk51Fn5dH8BFzsFbCgAAAEAAAAFX8AktKcHVCrlHNA4/P3T0BAAAAAA==@vodafone.it>
Message-ID: <20090507145421.GB60549@ozzmosis.com>

On Wed 2009-05-06 14:32:47 UTC+0200, giorgio novello (gio.nov@vodafone.it) wrote:

> Develop e visual-basic like language, or asp vb and  your OS will be a best
> seller

The OP is likely trolling, but reminded me of the Lazarus project.
It's loosely based on Borland Delphi and is apparently quite good for
VB-like RAD development.  It's in FreeBSD ports tree.

http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/
From mail at ozzmosis.com  Thu May  7 15:04:08 2009
From: mail at ozzmosis.com (andrew clarke)
Date: Thu May  7 15:04:16 2009
Subject: Preferred client for DynDNS
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905060740r6e1611e6v1f1fb8852e47a0b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507143724.GA60549@ozzmosis.com>

On Wed 2009-05-06 10:40:46 UTC-0400, Daniel Underwood (djuatdelta@gmail.com) wrote:

> There appear to be several clients capable of working with DynDNS.com
> services here:
> <http://www.freebsd.org/ports/dns.html>
> 
> E.g., dns/inadyn, dns/ipcheck
> 
> Can anyone make recommendations?  My goal in using DynDNS is to allow
> remote SSH logins to a machine behind a router at my house (using a
> common ISP).

ddclient has worked very well for me.

You may also want to use sshguard-ipfw to protect from brute-force SSH
attacks.
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Thu May  7 15:43:01 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Thu May  7 15:43:08 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>

--On Wednesday, May 06, 2009 22:55:23 -0500 Michel Talon 
<talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:

>
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD.  Last time I asked the
>> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic.
>
> Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works:
>
> niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf
> [global]
> auto_dir        = /.amd
> log_file        = /var/log/amd.log
> log_options     = error,fatal,user
> map_type        = file
> search_path     = /etc
> [/Cd]
> map_name        = amd.cdrom
># For nfs mounts
> [/Net]
> map_name        = amd.net
>
>
>
> niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom
> cdrom   type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom
>
>
> niobe% cat /etc/amd.net
> /defaults       type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key}
> *               opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft
>
> Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses
> /etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd
> it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access
> /Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net.
>
> Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and
> so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is
> mounted. After
> niobe% cd /Net/ada
> i have:
> niobe% df
> ...
> ada:/ada                36196652  26972064  7356232    79% /.amd/ada/ada
> ada:/ada1              287391356 246682696 26109996    90% /.amd/ada/ada1
> ada:/ada2              288362876 180649856 93064956    66% /.amd/ada/ada2
> ada:/ada3               99188500  80794628 13273960    86% /.amd/ada/ada3
> ada:/adm                36204684   1682772 32653156     5% /.amd/ada/adm
>
> Note that  autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can
> see.
>
> Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted.
>
> I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd.
>

Indeed it does, and I thank you very much for that example.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
Check the headers before clicking on Reply.

From dondugger47 at gmail.com  Thu May  7 15:52:04 2009
From: dondugger47 at gmail.com (Don Dugger)
Date: Thu May  7 15:52:10 2009
Subject: Compass 597 Sprint
Message-ID: <e300c7d50905070825o2245ccd4wdb71b7867a0986bf@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone got a Compass 597 from Sprint to work?
And if so can I get some pointers?

Thx in advance...

Don 8)
From ulrich at pukruppa.net  Thu May  7 16:59:22 2009
From: ulrich at pukruppa.net (Peter Ulrich Kruppa)
Date: Thu May  7 16:59:28 2009
Subject: [Samba] PDC and "group" question
In-Reply-To: <4A030821.9070101@gmail.com>
References: <4A01E5A4.2000808@gmail.com>
	<1241666722.1568.4.camel@pukruppa.net>  <4A030821.9070101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241715748.50410.2.camel@pukruppa.net>

Am Donnerstag, den 07.05.2009, 09:11 -0700 schrieb MargoAndTodd:
> Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
> 
> > I am not quite sure, I understand your question correctly:
> > probably you will want to use commands like
> > # net groupmap add ntgroup="Domain Admins" unixgroup=wheel  type=d 
> >   rid=512
> > which would map the Windows group "Domain Admins" to the local UNIX
> > group wheel and so on. See the documentation on samba.org for more
> > details examples.
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
>     There is "a lot" of documentation out on samba.org.
> Can you point me to where to start?
I think the main document would be
http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/groupmapping.html
but it assumes you really have a Primary Domain Controller up and
running.

Greetings and good luck

Uli.

> 
> Many thanks,
> -T

From Midspan at phihongusa.com  Thu May  7 17:47:05 2009
From: Midspan at phihongusa.com (Midspan Manager)
Date: Thu May  7 17:47:12 2009
Subject: Myths about Power Over Ethernet
Message-ID: <20090507174659.B55D77600@warrior.xo.com>

Myths about Power Over Ethernet
 May 7, 2008
Power-over-Ethernet (PoE) technology integrates power and data across standard Cat5/5e/6 network cabling and provides more flexibility in today?s workplace. PoE enables power to be supplied to network devices, such as IP phones, network cameras, and wireless access points through a single, most often existing, network cable. When combined with an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) a PoE network delivers continuous operation and minimizes business downtime by eliminating most power interruptions. With the ability to install endpoints in any location PoE technology provides a scalable and flexible networking infrastructure geared for growth and efficiency.

 
 PoE Switches can provide all the power I need or will need.
Today most switches are merely PoE-enabled.  This means the majority rely on power management to share available power across the switch ports. The switches are designed with a smaller power supply that is typically capable of powering the switch itself and providing the required 15.4 watts of power over a limited number of ports. 
For example:  A 24-port PoE Switch with power management typically has a 195-watt power supply. After the 40 watts needed to power the switch, you have approximately 155 watts remaining. If 12 of the 24 ports are used to connect end devices using 11.5 watts each, you would only have 17 watts remaining to provide power on the last 12 ports.  The math doesn?t match the ports: 195W ? 40W (switch) ? 138 (12 devices @ 11.5W/ea) = 17W left for power on 12 ports 
Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effective solution.
 
  
 A midspan and a PoE switch are the same.
A PoE Midspan is not a switch.  A Midspan is an additional PoE power source that can be used to offer full power to all endpoint devices.  PoE Midspans (Power Hub or Power Injector) pass data from a switch and ?inject? safe power acting as a patch panel of sorts.  Midspans are commonly used with either a non-PoE switch, an existing PoE switch, or a new PoE switch in a network. In addition to offering full power across all available ports, midspans costs substantially less per port and overall than a new PoE enabled switch.
Myth Busted: Midspans do not switch ? they make use of existing best-in-class switches.  They inject safe power across all ports and cost less than PoE switches. . 
  
 Only a switch that has PoE built in should be used to power devices like IP Phones, Access Points, and IP Security Cameras. 
Switches were designed to, well, switch.  PoE Switches are designed with power management and have to distribute different power as required to ports but there is often not enough power for all devices plus the power required to complete the primary task - switching.  Networks that have multiple devices like IP phones, IP cameras, wireless access points quickly go beyond the limited capacity of managed power PoE switches.  As more PoE devices continue to grow in capabilities and market share this managed power limitation will become more and more evident.  Midspans, in contrast to switches, were designed to provide full power on every port and deliver safe and reliable power based on the industry standards (IEEE802.3af/at). 
Myth Busted: Rather than relying on power management in a switch use a midspan that can deliver full power (15.4W) to every port for all PoE-enabled devices now and in the future.   
  
 Ethernet devices not PoE-enabled (non 802.3af/at compliant) cannot be powered using PoE technology. 
Many devices do not directly accept Power-over-Ethernet but can still use PoE technology. If the device uses less than 12.5 watts (802.3af) or less than 50 watts (802.3at+) and connects to an IP Ethernet network you can use a PoE splitter.  PoE splitters enable you to accept PoE power from any IEEE 802.3af/at compliant switch or midspan then separates the data and power on to two seprate cables.  The data is connected to the end device through a standard RJ45 plug while the power is connected using a standard 5.5 x 2.1 x 12mm Adapter Plug.  Splitters can also convert the input voltage to the required voltage for a non-PoE device. Splitters are traditionally used with older network products which only accept power through their (DC) jack and data through their RJ-45 jack.
Myth Busted: PoE splitters can be used in conjunction with PoE midspans and switches to provide both the data connectivity and power required by most endpoint devices. 
  
 I need/will need additional PoE switch ports to power my IP cameras and high-power pan, tilt, and zoom (PTZ) cameras. 
Today, many devices have evolved into more advanced solutions with higher power requirements. The traditional approach was to endure a ?forklift upgrade?. This meant buying new PoE switches at considerable cost and physically swapping out the existing switches to meet higher power requirements or add more powered ports. There is an easy and more cost-effective way ? separate the data and power in the wiring closet (IBF). It is more efficient and costs less to separate your data and power allowing you to keep your best-in-class business switch for your IP needs and supplement it where required with best-in-class midspan technology to power the endpoints. 
Myth Busted: A PoE Switch is often not the best and most cost effective solution. 
  
 All midspans are created equal . . . they are all the same. 
Always select a best-in-class midspan. If you wanted to enhance your switched network wouldn?t use a best-in-class network switch?  Of course you would. A midspan designed and manufactured by a leading power supply company that understands power, power requirements, and one that delivers enterprise-level solutions. 
Select a midspan manufacturer that has multiple members on the IEEE (PoE) committee helping to define safe, new PoE standards. This ensures that every midspan is designed to meet current and future IEEE specifications for Power-over-Ethernet. 
Select a midspan manufacturer that designs, manufactures, and tests its own product rather than outsourcing these tasks across the globe to cut costs.
Select a midspan that has a high-speed, common interface to access the management console. A USB port is not as cheap as a serial port (RS-232) but is faster, more user-friendly, and more common on high quality midspans. 
Myth Busted: Although there are many midspan manufacturers out there, few have the power supply experience, quality controls, and manufacturing capability to produce best-in-class midspans.  All midspans are NOT created equal.  
  
 
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From nlandys at gmail.com  Thu May  7 18:18:53 2009
From: nlandys at gmail.com (Nerius Landys)
Date: Thu May  7 18:19:00 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
Message-ID: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>

So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
not really what I'm looking for.  I gave my friends access to my
FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or
MySQL on higher ports running as their own user.
From ccowart at rescomp.berkeley.edu  Thu May  7 18:23:21 2009
From: ccowart at rescomp.berkeley.edu (Chris Cowart)
Date: Thu May  7 18:23:28 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507182321.GB49013@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu>

Nerius Landys wrote:
> So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
> his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
> the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
> not really what I'm looking for.  I gave my friends access to my
> FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or
> MySQL on higher ports running as their own user.

Each user could create an entry in their crontab using the @reboot
keyword.

-- 
Chris Cowart
Network Technical Lead
Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
UC Berkeley
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From xi at borderworlds.dk  Thu May  7 18:23:52 2009
From: xi at borderworlds.dk (Christian Laursen)
Date: Thu May  7 18:24:00 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A032736.4080802@borderworlds.dk>

Nerius Landys wrote:
> So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
> his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
> the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
> not really what I'm looking for.  I gave my friends access to my
> FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or
> MySQL on higher ports running as their own user.

Starting something at boot is easy enough. The user can just add a line 
like this to his/her crontab:

@reboot /path/to/command

At shutdown is not possible via cron though.

-- 
Christian Laursen
From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Thu May  7 18:30:04 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Thu May  7 18:30:12 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090507142959.0775bcb4.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com>:

> So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
> his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
> the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
> not really what I'm looking for.  I gave my friends access to my
> FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or
> MySQL on higher ports running as their own user.

In addition to the other suggestions, there's also the jail system
to give users limited root permissions.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From lhecking at users.sourceforge.net  Thu May  7 18:33:51 2009
From: lhecking at users.sourceforge.net (Lars Hecking)
Date: Thu May  7 18:33:58 2009
Subject: 7.2 = no sound
In-Reply-To: <20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws>
References: <20090507105027.279A04E382@cork.irdesign.cypress.com>
	<20090507123330.GD1111@phenom.cordula.ws>
Message-ID: <20090507183330.575704E37E@cork.irdesign.cypress.com>

> 
> > pcm0: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #0 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
> > pcm1: <HDA Sigmatel STAC9205X PCM #1 Analog> at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
> 
> Have you tried to set hw.snd.default_unit to the right port?
> 
> >From snd_hda(4):
> 
>  The default audio device may be tuned by setting the hw.snd.default_unit
>  sysctl, as described in sound(4), or explicitly specified in application
>  settings.
> 
> That's the most common cause for sound problems after the snd_hda
> upgrade.
 
 Well, I don´t know what the rigt port is ;-) I tried

 hw.snd.default_unit=0

 and now I have

# ll /dev/dsp*
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 118 May  7 19:23 /dev/dsp0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 119 May  7 19:23 /dev/dsp0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 117 May  7 19:22 /dev/dsp1.0

 i.e dsp0.[234] are gone.

 Sound preferences show that the default device for input and output
 (? how is that supposed to work?) is /dev/dsp0. What do I need to
 configure to create a /dev/dsp0? I don´t really understand what´s
 going on, especially since the number of dsp* devices keeps changing

# cd /dev
# ln -s dsp0.0 dsp0
ln: dsp0: File exists
# ll dsp*
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 118 May  7 19:28 dsp0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 119 May  7 19:22 dsp0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 129 May  7 19:22 dsp0.2
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel    0, 117 May  7 19:22 dsp1.0


From toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee  Thu May  7 18:41:44 2009
From: toomas.aas at raad.tartu.ee (Toomas Aas)
Date: Thu May  7 18:42:01 2009
Subject: Applying FreeBSD-SA-09:07 broke PAM on 7.0
Message-ID: <4A03271E.9080903@raad.tartu.ee>

Hello!

Finally I managed to find some time to apply the libc update to our server 
running FreeBSD 7.0 i386. I applied the patch as described in the section 
titled "To patch your present system:" of the advisory.

I didn't notice any errors during the entire process, but after it was 
complete I could no longer log in, either via ssh or locally on the server 
console. The following error messages were returned after entering the 
login name on the console (the password prompt didn't even appear):

login: in openpam_load_module(): no pam_unix.so found
login: pam_start(): system error

pam_unix.so.4 was still present in /usr/lib and there was also a symlink to 
it named pam_unix.so, as I saw after rebooting the server into single user 
mode. ldd /usr/lib/pam_unix.so.4 seemed to correctly find all the needed 
libraries.

Using the fixit CD I copied the original libc.so.7 from 7.0 installation 
media to the system and this seems to have solved the problem, leaving me 
to wonder how to actually deal with the security issue. My own thought at 
this point is to bring in a fresh 7.2 source tree and rebuild everything, 
but maybe someone knows a less involved solution? Sounds like something 
else besides libc needs to be rebuilt, but what?

Just a couple of days ago I applied this patch to another system running 
7.1, and there were no problems. I've been running and patching FreeBSD 
since 2001 and never had such a strange problem with a security advisory!

-- 
Toomas Aas
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Thu May  7 18:51:09 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Thu May  7 18:51:23 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905072051.06511.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 19:57:03 Nerius Landys wrote:
> So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
> his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
> the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
> not really what I'm looking for.

You sure? You can simply write an rc.d script that iterates through 
/home/*/rc.d/* and invokes each enabled script in there as the user, using su 
or sudo.
This will cleanly shutdown stuff for them.

Whether they *should* be running their own instances is an entirely different 
question. VirtualHost can do a lot and with mod_vhost_alias you simplify the 
maintenance, while maintaining several instances complicates it.
--
Mel
From admin at asarian-host.net  Thu May  7 19:31:02 2009
From: admin at asarian-host.net (Mark)
Date: Thu May  7 19:31:09 2009
Subject: php4 + php5
In-Reply-To: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk] 
Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 8:29
To: Mark
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: php4 + php5

Mark wrote:

> > Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install
> > both mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5:
> > not every webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per
> > vhost) I like the Apache server to use php5, though.

> No. At least, not within the current ports system.  Quite apart from
> anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over
> installing files to certain locations. I'm also not certain that
> loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache
> is viable.

Thanks. I figured as much. So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only
thing is, I can't get GD to compile properly (which I really need).
Compile keeps failing on the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all
sorts of X11 stuff (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so with
all the X11 baggage?

Thanks,

- Mark

From admin at asarian-host.net  Thu May  7 19:42:51 2009
From: admin at asarian-host.net (Mark)
Date: Thu May  7 19:43:05 2009
Subject: SOLVED (was: RE: php4 + php5)
In-Reply-To: <200905071931.n47JVkNr009452@asarian-host.net>
References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>
	<200905071931.n47JVkNr009452@asarian-host.net>
Message-ID: <200905071942.n47JgjkY024057@asarian-host.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:admin@asarian-host.net] 
Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 21:32
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: php4 + php5

> ... So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only thing is, I can't get
> GD to compile properly (which I really need). Compile keeps failing on
> the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all sorts of X11 stuff
> (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so without all the X11
> baggage?

LOL, just adding "WITHOUT_X11=yes" did the trick! Sometimes the obvious is
just staring you in the face; and then, obviously, you miss it. :)

Thanks,

- Mark

From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Thu May  7 21:23:54 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Thu May  7 21:24:00 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905072322490.43903@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

man crontab


@reboot

On Thu, 7 May 2009, Nerius Landys wrote:

> So there's cron.  Is there anything that lets an ordinary user start
> his/her programs at bootup of the system?  And then run a script when
> the system is shutting down?  I'm familiar with /etc/rc.d/, but that's
> not really what I'm looking for.  I gave my friends access to my
> FreeBSD server and I want to let them start for example Apache and/or
> MySQL on higher ports running as their own user.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>
>
From mark at summersault.com  Thu May  7 21:28:24 2009
From: mark at summersault.com (Mark Stosberg)
Date: Thu May  7 21:28:33 2009
Subject: Specifying only constrained options in /etc/libmap.conf ?
Message-ID: <20090507172804.2ceaca4c@summersault.com>


I would like to use /etc/libmap.conf to apply some mappings
which only apply to the "darcs" executable.

However the man page for "libmap.conf" contains this warning:

 "WARNING!  Constrained mappings must never appear first in the configura-
 tion file.  While there is a way to specify the ``default'' constraint,
 its use is not recommended."

Warning aside, I thought what I would want is the following. Is
there a better way? I want to limit the scope of this change because
I'm not sure how it will affect the rest of the system, particularly MySQL.

[darcs]
libpthread.so.1 libthr.so.1
libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2
libkse.so.3 libthr.so.3

Thanks for your help!

    Mark

-- 
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
   Mark Stosberg            Principal Developer  
   mark@summersault.com     Summersault, LLC     
   765-939-9301 ext 202     database driven websites
 . . . . . http://www.summersault.com/ . . . . . . . .


From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Thu May  7 21:28:55 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Thu May  7 21:29:05 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>

Tim Judd wrote:
> I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as the
> WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else.
> 
> 
> 
> What drivers did you use?  Any other drivers available on the manufacturer
> website?
> 
> 
> If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver for
> the recent project evil versions.
> 
> 
> --TJ
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> 
Sorry about the delay replying, I've been away.

In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an 
unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot, 
updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still 
get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.

Should I give up or are there other things to try?

Thanks

Chris
From apseudoutopia at gmail.com  Thu May  7 21:46:58 2009
From: apseudoutopia at gmail.com (APseudoUtopia)
Date: Thu May  7 21:47:05 2009
Subject: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging?
Message-ID: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead.
I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs
with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD"
menu, it just freezes up.

I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas?

Thanks.
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Thu May  7 22:17:38 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Thu May  7 22:17:45 2009
Subject: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging?
In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905080016340.44342@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead.
> I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs
> with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD"
> menu, it just freezes up.
>
> I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas?
>
most probably hardware failure

> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>
>
From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Thu May  7 23:13:57 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Thu May  7 23:14:05 2009
Subject: Problems after upgrading to xorg-7.4_1
Message-ID: <200905072343.46922.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>

I'm having a couple of problems getting X to work after upgrading to 
xorg-7.4_1 (on 6.4-RELEASE-p3)

The first problem is that I can't get the nvidia driver to load.

I ran "Xorg -configure" to create a new xorg.conf. This generated a file 
using the nv driver, which works but causes the display to be offset 
about 15mm to the right. Things were working fine with the nvidia 
driver prior to upgrading the ports so I then ran nvidia-xconfig to 
update xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver but then X won't start. The 
error message I get is: 

(EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so

... but it does exist

curlew:/root# ls -l /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
-r--r--r--  1 root  wheel  1650756 Feb 16 
11:18 /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so

To get round this it looks like I either need to get the nv driver to 
position the display correctly or get the nvidia driver to load.

I've included copies of xorg.conf and Xorg0.log at the end of this 
email.

The second problem is that when I revert to the nv driver X treats my UK 
keyboard as a US one, even though it functions correctly as a UK 
keyboard in console mode before starting X.

The original config file created by "X -configure" didn't detect my 
keyboard type and generated the following keyboard section:

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Then I added the following lines from my previous config file:

    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "gb"

... but it still uses the US keymap.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
xorg.conf
-----------------------------------------------------------------

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (root@curlew.lan)  Thu May  7 22:48:56 
BST 2009

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
    ModulePath      "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
    FontPath        "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "record"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "glx"
    Load           "dri2"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "gb"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

	#DisplaySize	  380   300	# mm
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "SAM"
    ModelName      "SyncMaster"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 81.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"

        ### Available Driver options are:-
        ### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
        ### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
        ### [arg]: arg optional
        #Option     "SWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "HWcursor"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "NoAccel"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "ShadowFB"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "UseFBDev"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "Rotate"             	# [<str>]
        #Option     "VideoKey"           	# <i>
        #Option     "FlatPanel"          	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FPDither"           	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "CrtcNumber"         	# <i>
        #Option     "FPScale"            	# [<bool>]
        #Option     "FPTweak"            	# <i>
        #Option     "DualHead"           	# [<bool>]
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "C51PV [GeForce 6150]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Card0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Xorg0.log
-----------------------------------------------------------------

_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/curlew.lan:0
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6

X.Org X Server 1.6.0
Release Date: 2009-2-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p3 i386 
Current Operating System: FreeBSD curlew.lan 6.4-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 
6.4-RELEASE-p3 #2: Mon Feb 16 11:27:38 GMT 2009     
root@curlew.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURLEW i386
Build Date: 07 May 2009  02:16:52AM
 
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu May  7 23:07:46 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(**) FontPath set to:
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
	/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,
	built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' 
or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0x1ae0
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
	X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
	X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(--) PCI:*(0@0:5:0) nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] rev 162, Mem 
@ 0xfc000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfb000000/16777216, BIOS 
@ 0x????????/65536
(II) System resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also 
specified in the config file.
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.13.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX disabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so: Undefined 
symbol "PictureScreenPrivateIndex"
(EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (loader failed, 7)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
	 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional 
information.



-- 
Mike Clarke
From nlandys at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:19:48 2009
From: nlandys at gmail.com (Nerius Landys)
Date: Fri May  8 00:19:54 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
Message-ID: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>

What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?
rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC.
From nlandys at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:22:03 2009
From: nlandys at gmail.com (Nerius Landys)
Date: Fri May  8 00:22:31 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905072322490.43903@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905072322490.43903@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com>

Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need.  It's too bad that there's
no straightforward shutdown hook.
From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:26:42 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Fri May  8 00:26:50 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <d356c5630905070634p32f22c1m5086061fbd1c8178@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905070634p32f22c1m5086061fbd1c8178@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905071726m55294b95v6bc946c40fc8824a@mail.gmail.com>

I added the line

"127.0.0.1     bsdbox     bsdbox.my.domain"

and now it works perfectly, thanks!

Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does
that line "do"?
From amitabhkant at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:44:43 2009
From: amitabhkant at gmail.com (Amitabh Kant)
Date: Fri May  8 00:44:55 2009
Subject: php4 + php5
In-Reply-To: <200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net>
References: <4A027F86.70007@infracaninophile.co.uk>
	<200905071912.n47JCrgs008541@asarian-host.net>
Message-ID: <84b68b3d0905071719x167ea19w343fa58655761315@mail.gmail.com>

Add WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make.conf file before running make command.

Amitabh

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Mark <admin@asarian-host.net> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk]
> Sent: donderdag 7 mei 2009 8:29
> To: Mark
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: php4 + php5
>
> Mark wrote:
>
> > > Using a single Apache 1.3.x install, is there a way to install
> > > both mod_php4 + mod_php5 together? I can't just upgrade to php5:
> > > not every webboard and such accepts php5 yet. On some dirs (or per
> > > vhost) I like the Apache server to use php5, though.
>
> > No. At least, not within the current ports system.  Quite apart from
> > anything else, the php4 and php5 ports conflict -- they fight over
> > installing files to certain locations. I'm also not certain that
> > loading both mod_php4 and mod_php5 into the same instance of Apache
> > is viable.
>
> Thanks. I figured as much. So I just upgraded to PHP5 already. :) Only
> thing is, I can't get GD to compile properly (which I really need).
> Compile keeps failing on the libxcb port. Seems it wants to install all
> sorts of X11 stuff (which I don't use). Can I not just build gd.so with
> all the X11 baggage?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mark
>
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From johndoeismyname at gmail.com  Fri May  8 00:44:48 2009
From: johndoeismyname at gmail.com (gabe g)
Date: Fri May  8 00:44:56 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc6993210905071736w7044210ft57d7387f5f3d9594@mail.gmail.com>

Irssi or Weechat will be most recommended.
From looptigger at gmail.com  Fri May  8 01:27:30 2009
From: looptigger at gmail.com (looptigger)
Date: Fri May  8 01:27:37 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <fc6993210905071736w7044210ft57d7387f5f3d9594@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc6993210905071736w7044210ft57d7387f5f3d9594@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62e85f970905071756k59eb0eefj48c4182dc63253ca@mail.gmail.com>

irssi

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:36 AM, gabe g <johndoeismyname@gmail.com> wrote:

> Irssi or Weechat will be most recommended.
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Date: Fri May  8 02:24:40 2009
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From paul at paulstewart.org  Fri May  8 02:38:52 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Fri May  8 02:39:00 2009
Subject: 7.2 Installation Problem - Large Disk
Message-ID: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org>

Hi there..

 

I hope this is the correct mailing list to ask this question.

 

I have a Dell Poweredge R710 server (brand new)... 7.2-RELEASE installs fine
but I'm having a problem getting any large partitions over approximately
500GB.  During the installation it allows me to create 4.5TB partition but
after rebooting it's only really 500GB +/-

 

Has anyone successfully installed into a disk this large?  This is a RAID5
array using the Dell Perc 6/I controller

 

I have installed now 6+ times with smaller partitions (100GB even) and run
into problems . hoping someone could share how they got large disk support
working..  I'd be happy with several 1TB partitions but when I configure it
this way and exceed 4 partitions it tells me disk error creating
partitions..

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

 

 

 

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From ben at b1c1l1.com  Fri May  8 03:13:59 2009
From: ben at b1c1l1.com (Benjamin Lee)
Date: Fri May  8 03:14:06 2009
Subject: 7.2 Installation Problem - Large Disk
In-Reply-To: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org>
References: <00f401c9cf84$b0582850$110878f0$@org>
Message-ID: <4A03A36A.6000507@b1c1l1.com>

On 05/07/2009 07:28 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
> Hi there..
> 
>  
> 
> I hope this is the correct mailing list to ask this question.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a Dell Poweredge R710 server (brand new)... 7.2-RELEASE installs fine
> but I'm having a problem getting any large partitions over approximately
> 500GB.  During the installation it allows me to create 4.5TB partition but
> after rebooting it's only really 500GB +/-
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone successfully installed into a disk this large?  This is a RAID5
> array using the Dell Perc 6/I controller
> 
>  
> 
> I have installed now 6+ times with smaller partitions (100GB even) and run
> into problems . hoping someone could share how they got large disk support
> working..  I'd be happy with several 1TB partitions but when I configure it
> this way and exceed 4 partitions it tells me disk error creating
> partitions..

Unfortunately, MBR and BSD disklabel use 32 bit values, so they are
limited to 2TB.  GPT uses 64 bit values, but I don't believe that
FreeBSD fully supports it.  You can see the Big Disk project page [1]
for more information.

As a workaround, you may wish redo your RAID configuration so that you
have multiple logical volumes (e.g. 2T, 2T, 0.5T).

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html


-- 
Benjamin Lee
http://www.b1c1l1.com/

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From kingedgar at gmail.com  Fri May  8 03:22:20 2009
From: kingedgar at gmail.com (Jason Garrett)
Date: Fri May  8 03:22:28 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
	<F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
Message-ID: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:14, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> wrote:

> --On Wednesday, May 06, 2009 22:55:23 -0500 Michel Talon <
> talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> wrote:
>
>
>> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>>
>>  I'm wondering if I can use autofs on FreeBSD.  Last time I asked the
>>> question someone said I need amd, which I found rather cryptic.
>>>
>>
>> Indeed it is cryptic, let me gave an example which works:
>>
>> niobe% cat /etc/amd.conf
>> [global]
>> auto_dir        = /.amd
>> log_file        = /var/log/amd.log
>> log_options     = error,fatal,user
>> map_type        = file
>> search_path     = /etc
>> [/Cd]
>> map_name        = amd.cdrom
>> # For nfs mounts
>> [/Net]
>> map_name        = amd.net
>>
>>
>>
>> niobe% cat /etc/amd.cdrom
>> cdrom   type:=cdfs;opts:=ro,nosuid;dev:=/dev/acd0;fs:=${autodir}/cdrom
>>
>>
>> niobe% cat /etc/amd.net
>> /defaults       type:=host;fs:=${autodir}/${rhost};rhost:=${key}
>> *               opts:=rw,grpid,resvport,nosuid,nodev,soft
>>
>> Now some comments. I use amd without options so it just uses
>> /etc/amd.conf to configure itself. When you try to access /Cd
>> it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.cdrom, and if you try to access
>> /Net it uses the configuration in /etc/amd.net.
>>
>> Finally if you try to access /Net/ada for example, the key is ada, and
>> so is the remote host. It is queried for NFS mounts and everything is
>> mounted. After
>> niobe% cd /Net/ada
>> i have:
>> niobe% df
>> ...
>> ada:/ada                36196652  26972064  7356232    79% /.amd/ada/ada
>> ada:/ada1              287391356 246682696 26109996    90% /.amd/ada/ada1
>> ada:/ada2              288362876 180649856 93064956    66% /.amd/ada/ada2
>> ada:/ada3               99188500  80794628 13273960    86% /.amd/ada/ada3
>> ada:/adm                36204684   1682772 32653156     5% /.amd/ada/adm
>>
>> Note that  autodir is /.amd and fs is ${autodir}/${rhost} as you can
>> see.
>>
>> Getting out of /Net/ada those mounts are unmounted.
>>
>> I hope this helps explaining some of the mysteries of amd.
>>
>>
> Indeed it does, and I thank you very much for that example.
>
While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux
hosts on my network.

>
> --
> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
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> are my own and not those of my employer.
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From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Fri May  8 03:39:58 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Fri May  8 03:40:05 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905071726m55294b95v6bc946c40fc8824a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905070634p32f22c1m5086061fbd1c8178@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905071726m55294b95v6bc946c40fc8824a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905072039oeb03694kf96850a4ede90f78@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com>wrote:

> I added the line
>
> "127.0.0.1     bsdbox     bsdbox.my.domain"
>
> and now it works perfectly, thanks!
>
> Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does
> that line "do"?
>

The /etc/hosts file is used to map host names to IP addresses.  It is very
useful for assigning names to computers on your home network since those
computers are (probably) not mapped in a DNS system.

As you can see, an IP address, such as 127.0.0.1 (local host and bsdbox),
can be mapped to multiple names.

Andrew
From freebsd at edvax.de  Fri May  8 03:50:49 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Fri May  8 03:50:56 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090508055041.c885b0c2.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700, Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?
> rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC.

Solution = { irc, BitchX } :-)


-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
From freebsd at edvax.de  Fri May  8 03:58:32 2009
From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon)
Date: Fri May  8 03:58:43 2009
Subject: Xfce unable to lookup hostname
In-Reply-To: <b6c05a470905071726m55294b95v6bc946c40fc8824a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b6c05a470905070614h5a665f8ai15b03a192666b1b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<d356c5630905070634p32f22c1m5086061fbd1c8178@mail.gmail.com>
	<b6c05a470905071726m55294b95v6bc946c40fc8824a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090508055824.e4c425f5.freebsd@edvax.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 20:26:40 -0400, Daniel Underwood <djuatdelta@gmail.com> wrote:
> I added the line
> 
> "127.0.0.1     bsdbox     bsdbox.my.domain"
> 
> and now it works perfectly, thanks!
> 
> Question: what does the line I added tell my computer? I.e., what does
> that line "do"?

It simply associates the given hostname to that IP adress. This
enables the system to resolve to this IP when the "literal" name
is given. This resolution is one of the basic principles.

Allthough the line works, it should be formed this way (or, it
should be two lines):

	127.0.0.1	<hostname>.<domain> <hostname>
	127.0.0.1	<hostname>.<domain>.

Note the dot. In your case, it would be

	127.0.0.1	bsdbox.my.domain bsdbox
	127.0.0.1	bsdbox.my.domain.

This enables the following resolve patterns:

	bsdbox			-----> 127.0.0.1
	bsdbox.my.domain	-----> 127.0.0.1 (You've got only this)

The first one is the "alias" / "short name" of the host, its
hostname. The second one is the "full name" including the
hostname and the domainname.

Refer to

	% man hosts

for a much better explaination. :-)

An addition: It's important that the system can resolve "localhost",
too, because that's an important "reserved literal name". For
example, the CUPS often addresses "localhost:631" (if I
remember correctly, I use apsfilter). Furthermore, the system's
mail subsystem relies on such settings.

So you could add or complete:

	::1		localhost
	127.0.0.1	localhost

It can cause big (stupid) problems if you miss them. :-)




-- 
Polytropon
>From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Subject: You have just received a virtual postcard from a friend !
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From bsam at ipt.ru  Fri May  8 05:05:07 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Fri May  8 05:05:18 2009
Subject: Problems after upgrading to xorg-7.4_1
In-Reply-To: <200905072343.46922.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> (Mike Clarke's
	message of "Thu\, 7 May 2009 23\:43\:46 +0100")
References: <200905072343.46922.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
Message-ID: <69401662@bb.ipt.ru>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 23:43:46 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote:

> The second problem is that when I revert to the nv driver X treats my UK 
> keyboard as a US one, even though it functions correctly as a UK 
> keyboard in console mode before starting X.

> The original config file created by "X -configure" didn't detect my 
> keyboard type and generated the following keyboard section:

> Section "InputDevice"
>         Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>         Driver      "kbd"
> EndSection

> Then I added the following lines from my previous config file:

>     Option         "XkbRules" "xorg"
>     Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
>     Option         "XkbLayout" "gb"

New xorg uses hal by default.

You have two options: either use hal [1] (i.e. start dbus and hald while
booting) or not use it (then you should tweak xorg.conf). Either way
please read recent freebsd-x11@ mail list archieves to understand what's
up and what to do.

[1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html


WBR
-- 
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Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From steve at ibctech.ca  Fri May  8 05:10:00 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Fri May  8 05:10:07 2009
Subject: Licensing
Message-ID: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>

I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know
that there are people here who can guide me off-list.

Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've
written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have
developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP
operations (including the OS itself).

I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
freely accessible.

All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.

GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?

Steve


From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Fri May  8 05:38:55 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Fri May  8 05:39:03 2009
Subject: Frozen on Boot - Kernel Hanging?
In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27ade5280905071446ucdb53f0q263efc713860d11b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905080738.52013.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Thursday 07 May 2009 23:46:54 APseudoUtopia wrote:
> Hey,
>
> My server was fine when I went to work. When I got back, it was dead.
> I had the datacenter reboot it, and it refused to boot. It just hangs
> with no error message when booting. After the "Welcome to FreeBSD"
> menu, it just freezes up.
>
> I have no idea where to start to fix this. Any ideas?

Like Wojchiech said, most likely hardware. Try to boot a livecd and if that 
won't work either, it's time to yank out hardware. If you have a replacement  
or test machine, put the HDD in there and if the HDD isn't the problem you 
might be able to read it's log files to get hints about what hardware part is 
the problem.
-- 
Mel
From daniels.vanags at smpbank.lv  Fri May  8 06:48:00 2009
From: daniels.vanags at smpbank.lv (Daniels Vanags)
Date: Fri May  8 06:48:08 2009
Subject: Teaming NIC
Message-ID: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>

Hello,

 

FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4).

 Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface.

 With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. 

 But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

 

Daniel Vanags

Information Technology  Department

IT infrastructure system engineer

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JSC SMP Bank                  www.smpbank.lv

Phone:                                    +371 67019386

E-mail:           Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv
<mailto:Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv> 

 

From odhiambo at gmail.com  Fri May  8 06:59:15 2009
From: odhiambo at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?T2RoaWFtYm8gIOODr+OCt+ODs+ODiOODsw==?=)
Date: Fri May  8 06:59:22 2009
Subject: Teaming NIC
In-Reply-To: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
References: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
Message-ID: <991123400905072359r127873d8rd7e0b93009e6d226@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Daniels Vanags <daniels.vanags@smpbank.lv>wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4).
>
>  Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface.
>
>  With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together.
>
>  But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help.
>

Upgrade to FreeBSD 6.4 and stay there if you must stay at 6.x.
6.2 is not supported anymore so don't ask questions about it:)


-- 
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254733744121/+254722743223
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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From admin at whatsmyip.org  Fri May  8 07:33:22 2009
From: admin at whatsmyip.org (Admin)
Date: Fri May  8 07:33:29 2009
Subject: BSD Discs
Message-ID: <94A03087-4A61-4170-8440-56C2EC94A0A0@whatsmyip.org>

Hi
I just started a BSD 'Download-Burn-Mail' service for downloading  
ISO's for people. It's not a free service, but its very very cheap,  
and we get the discs in the mail next-day. So if you are interested in  
linking to our service, please feel free to do so :-)

http://www.whatsmyip.org/osdiscsbymail/

And of course, email me if you have any questions or comments about it.

Thanks
John
From guru at unixarea.de  Fri May  8 08:28:37 2009
From: guru at unixarea.de (Matthias Apitz)
Date: Fri May  8 08:28:43 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
	<20090506120827.GA10242@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<20090506144346.35d7d9a2@server15.gelita.swe>
	<4A019719.6070001@eskk.nu>
Message-ID: <20090508082833.GA4565@rebelion.Sisis.de>

El d?a Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 03:56:41PM +0200, Leslie Jensen escribi?:

> I've done this a few times and the best procedure is to use the Parted 
> magic CD and resize the partition. The Vista shrink tool is not 
> something I would recommend. You don't have to think of defragging when 
> you use Parted Magic.

I did it with Pmagic 4.0 and Vista is now in its jail of 50 GByte and I
have around 180 GByte for FreeBSD CURRENT.

I still have to look for and install EasyBCD to be able to boot CURRENT
after the installation...

Thx

	matthias

-- 
Matthias Apitz
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e <guru@unixarea.de> - w http://www.unixarea.de/
People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.
From antonio.tommasi at unile.it  Fri May  8 08:34:58 2009
From: antonio.tommasi at unile.it (Antonio Tommasi)
Date: Fri May  8 08:35:05 2009
Subject: sshfs
Message-ID: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it>

Hi to all,
I'm trying to use sshfs on freebsd 7.1 box
After i've installed port

(ls /var/db/pkg|grep fuse
fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_5
fusefs-libs-2.7.4
fusefs-sshfs-2.2
)

i run command

sshfs user@host:/ /mnt/test/

and after inser password for host i've this message

"fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory"
Where is the problem

Local directory /mnt/test exist.


Regards
Antonio Tommasi
From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Fri May  8 08:45:04 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Fri May  8 08:45:12 2009
Subject: sshfs
In-Reply-To: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it>
References: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it>
Message-ID: <200905081045.00996.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Friday 08 May 2009 10:18:40 Antonio Tommasi wrote:

> "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory"
> Where is the problem

There's no fuse device. Read the pkg-message again (fuse_enable in rc.conf and 
start fuse service - too rusty on the exact fuse* variable name).
-- 
Mel
From gahr at FreeBSD.org  Fri May  8 09:09:09 2009
From: gahr at FreeBSD.org (Pietro Cerutti)
Date: Fri May  8 09:09:42 2009
Subject: sshfs
In-Reply-To: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it>
References: <4A03EAE0.6060907@unile.it>
Message-ID: <20090508104431.vt9zzjikv4kkk0ow@cpanel05.rubas-s05.net>



On Fri, 08 May 2009, Antonio Tommasi <antonio.tommasi@unile.it> wrote:

> Hi to all,
Hi Antonio,

> I'm trying to use sshfs on freebsd 7.1 box
> After i've installed port
>
> (ls /var/db/pkg|grep fuse
> fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_5
> fusefs-libs-2.7.4
> fusefs-sshfs-2.2
> )
>
> i run command
>
> sshfs user@host:/ /mnt/test/
>
> and after inser password for host i've this message
>
> "fuse: failed to open fuse device: No such file or directory"
> Where is the problem

You have to load the fuse kernel module:

kldload fuse

> Regards
Cheers,

> Antonio Tommasi

-- 
Pietro Cerutti
gahr@FreeBSD.org

PGP Public Key:
http://gahr.ch/pgp

From fam.vanderschaft at kpnplanet.nl  Fri May  8 09:17:00 2009
From: fam.vanderschaft at kpnplanet.nl (Familie van der Schaft)
Date: Fri May  8 09:17:07 2009
Subject: kerberos and php5
Message-ID: <066301c9cfbc$ce869ea0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET>

LS,

It seems that KRB5 is not a default implementation within php5.
How can i add KRB5 in php5.

Reg,Danny
From vince at unsane.co.uk  Fri May  8 09:27:54 2009
From: vince at unsane.co.uk (Vincent Hoffman)
Date: Fri May  8 09:28:02 2009
Subject: Teaming NIC
In-Reply-To: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
References: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
Message-ID: <4A03FB17.1030503@unsane.co.uk>

On 8/5/09 07:47, Daniels Vanags wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  
>
> FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4).
>
>  Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface.
>
>  With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. 
>
>  But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. 
>
>  
>   
I would highly recommend you upgrade to the latest 6.4 (or even better
the 7 series) but if you cannot for some reason, have a look at
netgraph, ng_fec might be ok if you have a cisco switch, and ng_one2many
looks interesting.  I havent tried them but I'm sure others on here
could comment on them.

Vince

> Thanks,
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Daniel Vanags
>
> Information Technology  Department
>
> IT infrastructure system engineer
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> JSC SMP Bank                  www.smpbank.lv
>
> Phone:                                    +371 67019386
>
> E-mail:           Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv
> <mailto:Daniels.Vanags@smpbank.lv> 
>
>  
>
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>   

From ml at netfence.it  Fri May  8 09:41:49 2009
From: ml at netfence.it (Andrea Venturoli)
Date: Fri May  8 09:41:55 2009
Subject: GSM modems
Message-ID: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it>

Hello.
I'm working on a project where we need to use GSM modems to be able to 
send and receive short messages; right now this is implemented through 
SMSTools.

We are having a lot of problems like the modem hanging and stopping any 
communication with the computer, the modems suddenly saying the SIM card 
is bad or that the ISP network is refusing registration.
Most of these are resolved by unplugging/replugging the modem.


I was wondering:
_ can (some of) these problems be FreeBSD related (e.g. USB driver 
issue, or something)?
_ has anyone had any similar experience?
_ can someone suggest a brand/model which works fine? (We tried three 
different ones, but all show some glitch).



  bye & Thanks
	av.
From bsam at ipt.ru  Fri May  8 10:00:37 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Fri May  8 10:00:44 2009
Subject: GSM modems
In-Reply-To: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it> (Andrea Venturoli's message of
	"Fri\, 08 May 2009 11\:10\:53 +0200")
References: <4A03F71D.1010509@netfence.it>
Message-ID: <90836432@bb.ipt.ru>

Hi,

On Fri, 08 May 2009 11:10:53 +0200 Andrea Venturoli wrote:

> I'm working on a project where we need to use GSM modems to be able to
> send and receive short messages; right now this is implemented through
> SMSTools.

Have you ever tried comms/gammu?

> We are having a lot of problems like the modem hanging and stopping
> any communication with the computer, the modems suddenly saying the
> SIM card is bad or that the ISP network is refusing registration.
> Most of these are resolved by unplugging/replugging the modem.

Did you try to change a cable? Prior to using GSM modems we had tested
some mobile phones and had got much trouble with their cables.

> I was wondering:
> _ can (some of) these problems be FreeBSD related (e.g. USB driver
> issue, or something)?

So you use USB modems, aren't you? Which FreeBSD version have you tried?
If it comes about USB, FreeBSD 8-CURRENT is very nice. It has a rewritten
USB stack. And a release is approaching.

> _ has anyone had any similar experience?

No. But we use comms/gammu and modems with COM interface.

> _ can someone suggest a brand/model which works fine? (We tried three
> different ones, but all show some glitch).

Siemence MC35i is very stable.


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:22:59 2009
From: m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com (Mehmet Erol Sanliturk)
Date: Fri May  8 10:23:06 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
Message-ID: <a333b2be0905080322t2192a94asd7049584b7e6aa5c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Steve Bertrand <steve@ibctech.ca> wrote:

> I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know
> that there are people here who can guide me off-list.
>
> Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've
> written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have
> developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP
> operations (including the OS itself).
>
> I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
> into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
> interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
> freely accessible.
>
> All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
> contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
> use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.
>
> GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
> code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
> overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?
>
> Steve
>
>

Dear Steve ,

You may inspect the following pages and links in them :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_software_licenses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_by_license
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_licenses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_distribution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Public_domain

I am not a lawyer and I can not comment on your possible decisions .
My suggestion would be to study related laws in your country before
making software available to public because some companies may not allow
employees
to disclose any software whether they write themselves without getting any
support form their employers  .

There is no any relationship between programming language used and the
license kind selected .
License is the terms of use of the disclosed sources by the others .

Another concept is Copyrights .  You can only license a source  which its
copyright is exactly belongs to you  .  In some countries  specifying  a
copyright  on a  work actually  copyrighted  by  another   entity  may
induce  a  legal penalty .

For me , the best license is BSD-style licenses because recipients of
software
may use them in open and closed source applications . Since licenses like
GPL and LGPL Version 3 requires disclosure of linked main programs , they
can not be used in closed source applications .
Therefore , any commercial entity can not use them and would NOT support
them .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
From onemda at gmail.com  Fri May  8 10:26:05 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Fri May  8 10:26:13 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
> Tim Judd wrote:
>> I think project evil (ndis) requires a specific driver version, such as
>> the
>> WinXP drivers versus the Vista or 2000 or anything else.
>>
>>
>>
>> What drivers did you use?  Any other drivers available on the manufacturer
>> website?
>>
>>
>> If you're not using XP, I recall reading that XP is the preferred driver
>> for
>> the recent project evil versions.
>>
>>
>> --TJ
>> _______________________________________________
>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>
> Sorry about the delay replying, I've been away.
>
> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an
> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot,
> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still
> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.
>
> Should I give up or are there other things to try?

Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or textdump)

-- 
Paul
From guru at unixarea.de  Fri May  8 10:31:13 2009
From: guru at unixarea.de (Matthias Apitz)
Date: Fri May  8 10:31:20 2009
Subject: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
In-Reply-To: <4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
References: <20090506085405.GA5251@rebelion.Sisis.de>
	<4A0165EA.1060003@otenet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090508103011.GA6364@rebelion.Sisis.de>

El d?a Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribi?:

> Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel -> 
> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management -> Disk Management.  Right 
> click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will 
> allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) 
> but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install 
> FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it 
> will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free 
> download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu.

Hi Manolis,

I've fetched EasyBCD and installed it in the Vista.

Just to make sure: The 180 GB partition is visible as /dev/ad8s4 to
the CURRENT booted from USB and I will just label it as:

    # bsdlabel -w ad8s4 auto
    # bsdlabel -B ad8s4
    
edit the disk label and change partition "a" from "unused" to "4.2BSD"
as partition type:
    
    # setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/vi
    # bsdlabel -e ad8s4
    
create the filesystem on it and mount it to /mnt for the installation:
    
    # newfs -m 0 -o space /dev/ad8s4a
    # mount /dev/ad8s4a /mnt 
    
and install CURRENT into /mnt:

    # cd /usr/src
    # make installworld  DESTDIR=/mnt
    # make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt KERNCONF=GENERIC INSTALL_NODEBUG=t
    # make distrib-dirs  DESTDIR=/mnt
    # make distribution  DESTDIR=/mnt

...

Any comments?
Thx

	matthias

-- 
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e <guru@unixarea.de> - w http://www.unixarea.de/
People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.
From jochen at daten-chaos.de  Fri May  8 11:13:14 2009
From: jochen at daten-chaos.de (Jochen enterhaken Neumeister)
Date: Fri May  8 11:13:46 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090508125559.15f17923@donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700
Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:

i think irssi 

http://www.irssi.org/
http://www.freshports.org/irc/irssi/


> What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?
> rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC.
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From derek at computinginnovations.com  Fri May  8 11:36:20 2009
From: derek at computinginnovations.com (Derek Ragona)
Date: Fri May  8 11:36:27 2009
Subject: Snapshots
In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.l ocal>
References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com>

At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote:
>Are there no more snapshots of current?
>The last is from 02-2009
>
>
>Regards,
>Johan

I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago.  You should see a May 
snapshot available.

         -Derek


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From seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us  Fri May  8 11:38:44 2009
From: seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us (Brian A. Seklecki)
Date: Fri May  8 11:38:56 2009
Subject: Configuring an IPv6 router to assign addresses
In-Reply-To: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
References: <000e0cd47d9cda8db004693f3d0c@google.com>
Message-ID: <1241782483.2053.8.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 14:30 +0000, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've found in the handbook how to start up a v6 router and some other  
> helpful links on this topic at the FreeBSD diary. However, I'm wondering,  

You want to the rtadvd(8) daemon.

$ sudo grep -i rtadvd /etc/defaults/rc.conf 
rtadvd_enable="NO"		# Set to YES to enable an IPv6 router
rtadvd_interfaces=""		# Interfaces rtadvd sends RA packets.

To hand out DNS servers, you'll want DHCPv6, but most folks are okay
with the DNS servers they're getting via IPv4 static/dhcp.

I recommend purchasing ipvbook.ca.  Great read.

~BAS

> how do I configure the router to assign addresses to hosts.
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy


From seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us  Fri May  8 11:38:44 2009
From: seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us (Brian A. Seklecki)
Date: Fri May  8 11:38:57 2009
Subject: filesystem: 12h to delete 32GB of data
In-Reply-To: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
References: <1241610888.16418.64.camel@ompc.insign.local>
Message-ID: <1241782516.2053.10.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 13:54 +0200, Olivier Mueller wrote:
> -> it took about 12 hours to delete these 30GB of files and
> sub-directories (smarty cache files: many small files in many dirs).

Haven't you ever had the pleasure of running Sendmail on Solaris? :)

Move this data store to a separate partition.  When it comes time to
burn the queue, stop the service, unmount the partition, newfs it,
remount, restart svc.

Long live Pisces v2.  ~BAS

From seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us  Fri May  8 11:43:45 2009
From: seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us (Brian A. Seklecki)
Date: Fri May  8 11:43:57 2009
Subject: HyperThreading
In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27ade5280905052320r55949c9v26c1c9db25a5d9ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1241782470.2053.6.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 02:20 -0400, APseudoUtopia wrote:
> Am I correct to assume that the above means that HTT is enabled?
> There is nothing in my loader.conf, sysctl.conf, or kernel config file
> related to hyperthreading.

Yes, you are correct.  Try:

% sudo ps gauxww 

Or 

% sudo top

You can see the currently assigned CPU for each proc/thread.

~BAS

From seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us  Fri May  8 11:43:46 2009
From: seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us (Brian A. Seklecki)
Date: Fri May  8 11:43:59 2009
Subject: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi
In-Reply-To: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45135@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
References: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45135@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
Message-ID: <1241782461.2053.5.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 13:44 +0300, Daniels Vanags wrote:
> We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD
> Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon
> processor.
> 
> Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server.
> When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted.
> 
> Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware.

Well, assuming that HFUX's RAID, VMWare and Linux doesn't totally shit
the bed from the hypervisor CPU type change, the VMs are controllable
from the spiffy AJAX/.Net20 VMWare management console.

There's plenty of debugging available from there.

Presumably all of the virtual hardware presented to the VM will be the
same, except the CPU details.

~BAS

From derek at computinginnovations.com  Fri May  8 11:47:16 2009
From: derek at computinginnovations.com (Derek Ragona)
Date: Fri May  8 11:48:53 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com>

At 09:42 AM 5/7/2009, Pieter Donche wrote:
>FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server.
>It hands out an IP address, OK,
>but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why?
>
>(A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried from 
>a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname associated 
>with the IP-address)

I have a later version of dhcpd running on FreeBSD without problems.  If 
your DHCP scope is setup correctly and your DHCP clients are getting 
settings that work, I'm not sure what is the problem you are 
experiencing.  You hostname variable can be set in the startup bash (or any 
other shell's startup scripts) scripts on login.

         -Derek

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From vince at unsane.co.uk  Fri May  8 12:00:30 2009
From: vince at unsane.co.uk (Vincent Hoffman)
Date: Fri May  8 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Snapshots
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com>
References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE7ED@w2003s01.double-l.local>
	<6.0.0.22.2.20090508063516.025a3578@mail.computinginnovations.com>
Message-ID: <4A041ECC.2080301@unsane.co.uk>

On 8/5/09 12:36, Derek Ragona wrote:
> At 04:00 AM 5/5/2009, Johan Hendriks wrote:
>> Are there no more snapshots of current?
>> The last is from 02-2009
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Johan
>
> I downloaded one from this month a couple days ago.  You should see a
> May snapshot available.
>
>         -Derek
>
>
Also see http://pub.allbsd.org/FreeBSD-snapshots/ 

From freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org  Fri May  8 12:21:04 2009
From: freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org (Lowell Gilbert)
Date: Fri May  8 12:21:18 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com>
	(Nerius Landys's message of "Thu\, 7 May 2009 17\:22\:01 -0700")
References: <560f92640905071057v7d298a68l680182144cc8898f@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905072322490.43903@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <447i0riy55.fsf@lowell-desk.lan>

Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> writes:

> Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need.  It's too bad that there's
> no straightforward shutdown hook.

If you really want an rc-style system available to users, it should only
be ten minutes work to write something simple...

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
		http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
From nvass9573 at gmx.com  Fri May  8 12:21:09 2009
From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis)
Date: Fri May  8 12:21:19 2009
Subject: Teaming NIC
In-Reply-To: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
References: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45138@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
Message-ID: <4A042396.6060508@gmx.com>

Daniels Vanags wrote:
> FreeBSD 6.3 has new device called lagg(4).
> 
>  Lagg is a link aggregation and link failover interface.
> 
>  With lagg we can easily bond two NIC interfaces together. 
> 
>  But how we can do NIC teaming in FreeBSD 6.2? Please help. 

Take a look at ng_fec, it implements Cisco's EtherChannel.

ng_one2many can also be used to bond two or more interfaces,
but keep in mind that it is not based on any standard and
it will handle of course only outgoing traffic since incoming
traffic must be handled from the remote side, the ethernet
switch.

There are plenty of choices to implement such a thing, beyond
those two approaches... If you want some ideas, please state
your needs.

Nikos


From keramida at ceid.upatras.gr  Fri May  8 12:53:30 2009
From: keramida at ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas)
Date: Fri May  8 12:53:39 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
	(Nerius Landys's message of "Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700")
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <874ovvwybd.fsf@kobe.laptop>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:19:47 -0700, Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?
> rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC.

If you are into Emacs, there are a few clients that run inside Emacs,
both in GUI/X11 frames and console sessions.

One of the major features of ERC (one of these clients) is that small
customizations and extensions are *very* easy to hack when you know a
bit of Emacs Lisp already.  Here are for example some of the local
customizations I made to my local setup:

http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-116

  A small function that autojoins channels after Freenode's NickServ has
  had a chance to cloak user information.

http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-177
http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-183
http://bitbucket.org/keramida/dot-emacs/src/tip/elisp/keramida-erc.el#cl-189

  Shorthand aliases for /cs -> /chanserv, /ns -> /nickserv and
  /ms -> /memoserv.

There is also a ton of information about ERC and other Emacs-based IRC
clients at the EmacsWiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/InternetRelayChat

From wtf.jlaine at gmail.com  Fri May  8 13:02:29 2009
From: wtf.jlaine at gmail.com (Jeff Laine)
Date: Fri May  8 13:02:37 2009
Subject: 6.0 to 6.4 upgrade - buildkernel fails
Message-ID: <2b98f2f70905080602n4dcafa0dk84a9e097f94a5ba5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, everybody.

I'm trying to source upgrade from 6.0-RELEASE to 6.4.
I really need to update this system, because 6.0 has too many holes now.
I cvsup'ed to RELENG_6_4 and buildworld went ok, but buildkernel fails
ait this stage:


[skipped]
--------------------------------------------------------------
>>> stage 2.3: build tools
--------------------------------------------------------------
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL;
MAKESRCPATH=/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm  make -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -f
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/Makefile
Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL
yacc -b aicasm_gram  -d -o aicasm_gram.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_gram.y
yacc -b aicasm_macro_gram -p mm -d -o aicasm_macro_gram.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_macro_gram.y
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I.
-I/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm  -c
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -nostdinc -I/usr/include -I.
-I/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm  -c
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symbol_delete':
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:91: warning: passing
arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:91: error: too few
arguments to function
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_open':
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:135: warning:
assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_close':
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: structure
has no member named `seq'
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: `R_FIRST'
undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: (Each
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:151: error: for each
function it appears in.)
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:157: error: too few
arguments to function
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_get':
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:176: warning: passing
arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:176: error: too few
arguments to function
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:189: warning: passing
arg 2 of pointer to function from incompatible pointer type
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:189: error: too few
arguments to function
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c: In function `symtable_dump':
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:486: error: `R_FIRST'
undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:487: error: structure
has no member named `seq'
/usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm_symbol.c:524: error: `R_NEXT'
undeclared (first use in this function)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


My config is the same as GENERIC, but with pf and altq options included.
Is it possible to use freebsd-udate on this old system?


Any help will be much appreciated.


--
Best regards,

Jeff
From mike.jeays at rogers.com  Fri May  8 13:05:03 2009
From: mike.jeays at rogers.com (Mike Jeays)
Date: Fri May  8 13:05:10 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
Message-ID: <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com>

On May 8, 2009 01:09:51 am Steve Bertrand wrote:
> I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know
> that there are people here who can guide me off-list.
>
> Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've
> written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have
> developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP
> operations (including the OS itself).
>
> I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
> into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
> interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
> freely accessible.
>
> All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
> contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
> use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.
>
> GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
> code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
> overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?
>
> Steve
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose 
any rights to it whatsoever.

I don't think the language makes any difference. Basically, the BSD license is 
OK if you don't mind others taking the code, modifying it and distributing 
binaries without making the modified source available. If you don't like the 
last part, consider the GPL.


From jos at webrz.net  Fri May  8 13:24:20 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Fri May  8 13:24:27 2009
Subject: Changing NIC
Message-ID: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net>

- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE

I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a 
gigabit one.
Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it 
and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable).
Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that?

Jos Chrispijn
From Johan at double-l.nl  Fri May  8 13:56:01 2009
From: Johan at double-l.nl (Johan Hendriks)
Date: Fri May  8 13:56:09 2009
Subject: Changing NIC
References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local>

>- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE
>
>I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a 
>gigabit one.
>Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it 
>and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable).
>Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that?
>
>Jos Chrispijn

The only thing need to change is the line ifconfig_(interface_name)="xxx.xxx ...... in the file /etc/rc.conf If the server can be offline for some time, install the new NIC and remove the old one.
Then look in dmesg what name the new nic has, like bge0 or em0 or something like that.
Edit your /etc/rc.conf file so the line ifconfig_ has your new nic module name, like ifconfig_em0= and restart the network with /etc/netstart If all is working a final reboot and all should be OK

Regards,
Johan
  

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From m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com  Fri May  8 14:11:02 2009
From: m.e.sanliturk at gmail.com (Mehmet Erol Sanliturk)
Date: Fri May  8 14:11:09 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
	<200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <a333b2be0905080711v353a4aa0n307ee13575fecc0d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jeays <mike.jeays@rogers.com> wrote:

> On May 8, 2009 01:09:51 am Steve Bertrand wrote:
> > I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know
> > that there are people here who can guide me off-list.
> >
> > Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've
> > written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have
> > developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP
> > operations (including the OS itself).
> >
> > I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
> > into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
> > interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
> > freely accessible.
> >
> > All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
> > contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
> > use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.
> >
> > GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
> > code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
> > overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose
> any rights to it whatsoever.



Public Domain does NOT  invalidate Copyright : The owner of the work is the
copyright holder .
Public Domain is a license kind which means that there is no any condition
on the usage .  For example , BSD-style licenses generally are mentioned as
2-clause ( conditions ) , 3-clause ( conditions ) , etc. . Public Domain
license means Zero-clause license .


>
> I don't think the language makes any difference. Basically, the BSD license
> is
> OK if you don't mind others taking the code, modifying it and distributing
> binaries without making the modified source available. If you don't like
> the
> last part, consider the GPL.
>
>

Language and used libraries sometimes may cause problems for the users of
the sources when they want to distribute executables .
For example , if a BSD-style licensed source uses GPL parts as called
procedures , NOT the users of the both sources have any restriction , but
when executable is distributed to others , BSD-style licensed sources also
should be distributed due to GPL conditions although BSD-styled licensed
part itself does not require distribution .

My opinion is that most restrictive license is GPL although it is claimed
that it gives freedom to users to get the source and modify it when they
need . One point is forgotten or ignored : A BSD-style licensed source is
also available from its originators whether it is distributed by its users
or not .

Thank you very much .

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
From utisoft at googlemail.com  Fri May  8 14:41:05 2009
From: utisoft at googlemail.com (Chris Rees)
Date: Fri May  8 14:41:14 2009
Subject: Changing NIC
In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local>
References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net>
	<57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE810@w2003s01.double-l.local>
Message-ID: <b79ecaef0905080740r5688d9f8n9f7281cc29397fb3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/8 Johan Hendriks <Johan@double-l.nl>:
>>- FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE
>>
>>I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a
>>gigabit one.
>>Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it
>>and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable).
>>Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that?
>>
>>Jos Chrispijn
>
> The only thing need to change is the line ifconfig_(interface_name)="xxx.xxx ...... in the file /etc/rc.conf If the server can be offline for some time, install the new NIC and remove the old one.
> Then look in dmesg what name the new nic has, like bge0 or em0 or something like that.
> Edit your /etc/rc.conf file so the line ifconfig_ has your new nic module name, like ifconfig_em0= and restart the network with /etc/netstart If all is working a final reboot and all should be OK
>
> Regards,
> Johan
>
>

To be honest, it should be OK even without the final reboot.

Johan, is there a reason you prefer /etc/netstart rather than
/etc/rc.d/netif restart? Are they equivalent, or is netstart 'better'
for any reason?

Chris

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From jon at radel.com  Fri May  8 15:12:35 2009
From: jon at radel.com (Jon Radel)
Date: Fri May  8 15:12:42 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <a333b2be0905080711v353a4aa0n307ee13575fecc0d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>	<200905080838.20628.mike.jeays@rogers.com>
	<a333b2be0905080711v353a4aa0n307ee13575fecc0d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A044BCF.1090607@radel.com>

Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote:
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mike Jeays <mike.jeays@rogers.com> wrote:
> 

>> I would keep away from the term 'public domain', which means you would lose
>> any rights to it whatsoever.
> 
> 
> 
> Public Domain does NOT  invalidate Copyright : The owner of the work is the
> copyright holder .
> Public Domain is a license kind which means that there is no any condition
> on the usage .  For example , BSD-style licenses generally are mentioned as
> 2-clause ( conditions ) , 3-clause ( conditions ) , etc. . Public Domain
> license means Zero-clause license .
> 

Giving advice like this on an international list is practically an 
exercise in futility, as there's pretty much a 100% chance that what 
you're saying is completely wrong in at least one country (and, yes, 
that goes for everything I say below too :-).  However, in some places, 
"public domain" does indeed mean that there is no copyright on it.  It 
is my understanding that in some countries it is difficult, if not 
impossible, to disclaim copyright, so you can't put your own works into 
the public domain.

"Public Domain license" is conflating copyrights and licenses, which 
while they interact, are not at all the same thing.  In fairness I will 
grant that this is a common usage, despite the fact that some of us 
deplore its imprecision.

My suggestion to the OP:

1)  Make sure your employer (if any) doesn't have rules on this that you 
wish to follow,

2)  Pick a license that appeals to you,

3a)  If the software isn't important enough or valuable enough that you 
see hiring a lawyer if somebody violates your license, you're done, as 
so long as the license expresses what you'd prefer people to do, it 
really doesn't matter much whether or not you theoretically could 
enforce it,

3b)  If this is valuable software, see a lawyer *before* you publish the 
software, preferably one who understands intellectual property *and* the 
various licenses that are available for "free" software.  Do NOT depend 
on free advice from amateurs such as myself.

Frankly, unless you see this software as providing revenue, or being 
part of some grand product you're releasing in phases, your license is 
making a philosophical declaration that a fair percentage of honorable 
users will more or less honor.  The costs of bringing legal action to 
actually enforce a license are probably completely out of line with the 
value of the network utilities that you want to share.

-- 

--Jon Radel
jon@radel.com
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From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Fri May  8 15:22:38 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Fri May  8 15:22:44 2009
Subject: print test page - false negative
Message-ID: <d356c5630905080822k1161fa9ayd17d0d11ab4f0624@mail.gmail.com>

Just an anecdote to any of you who may be having trouble configuring
printing:

I installed FreeBSD 7.2 Release with CUPS and gutenprint-cups.  The printer
in question is an Epson Stylus Photo R280, which is supported by
gutenprint.  After configuring CUPS, including permissions for /dev/ulpt0, I
could print; but the test page came out as garbage.  In a moment of
frustration, I tried to print the CUPS configuration window from the File
menu in firefox......it worked!  I then shutdown and left to see Star Trek
before anything could go wrong.  :-)

I'll try to print from other applications later.

Andrew
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Fri May  8 15:26:23 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Fri May  8 15:26:30 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
	<F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
	<970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu>

--On Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:16:01 -0500 Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>>
> While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux
> hosts on my network.
>

Hopefully it will work well for me too.  However, I am struggling with the 
documentation, trying to figure out how to translate the developer-speak into 
normal human language.

Here's what one of our guys is using on linux (I changed the hostname to 
foobar):

cat /etc/auto.master
/home   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/proj   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/net    -hosts

So how do I tranlsate that into FreeBSD amd conf and map files?  It's got me 
stumped.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
Check the headers before clicking on Reply.

From jerrymc at msu.edu  Fri May  8 15:43:24 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Fri May  8 15:43:31 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
Message-ID: <20090508154228.GA4202@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 01:09:51AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:

> I've got a question that is likely not suited for this list, but I know
> that there are people here who can guide me off-list.
> 
> Being a network engineer, I'm far from a developer. With that said, I've
> written numerous network automation programs (mostly in Perl), and have
> developed several small patches for software written in C related to ISP
> operations (including the OS itself).
> 
> I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
> into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
> interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
> freely accessible.
> 
> All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
> contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
> use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.
> 
> GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
> code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
> overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?

The first thing to determine is if any other entity might hold
some interest (ownership/copyright interest) in any of it.  If you
were employed by someone or some institution to do the work or the
work was done during time paid by those entities, then they may
have an interest.

If that is not the case, then the next thing to determine is if
any of it should be submitted to existing OSen or Utilities as
patches - bug fixes or improvements.  These two may not be a conflict
as many businesses will have no problem with you submitting back
fixes in software you are using in their behalf.   eg, for example,
if you are using FreeBSD to run a system for the business and write
a patch for FreeBSD while on company time that helps that business
operate better, they probably will have no problem with your 
submitting the patch for permanent inclusion in FreeBSD.

As much as possible, then, submit PRs and include the diffs that
cover the fixes or improvements.    

Finally, if you have complete clear ownership of some unique
utilities, then include license terms in the source with a requirement
that the license term be included in any subsequent distributions
and then submit the utilitie as a port - if it is for FreeBSD.

For a reasonable idea of how to compose license terms, check out
the license terms for FreeBSD on the web site.

I really don't know where to submit it if it is not for FreeBSD,
although there are several sites that such as SourceForge that make
themselves repositories for various usefull utilities.  You'd have
to check with them for how to go about submitting things and what
is expected in the way of support, etc.

Please include well documented source and clear statements as to
what the utilities do and how to use them.  Writing man pages
and why-to as well as how-tos is important.

You don't have to worry a whole lot
Good luck,

////jerry

> 
> Steve
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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From tundra at tundraware.com  Fri May  8 15:49:27 2009
From: tundra at tundraware.com (Tim Daneliuk)
Date: Fri May  8 15:49:34 2009
Subject: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing
Message-ID: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com>

I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of
this morning.  The boot process grumbles and goes single user because
it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares.  Any ideas why this
module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround?

Thanks,
-- 
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From tundra at tundraware.com  Fri May  8 15:51:21 2009
From: tundra at tundraware.com (Tim Daneliuk)
Date: Fri May  8 15:51:28 2009
Subject: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing
Message-ID: <4A044F12.2040801@tundraware.com>

I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of
this morning.  The boot process grumbles and goes single user because
it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares.  Any ideas why this
module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround?

Thanks,
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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PGP Key:         http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/

From mail at ozzmosis.com  Fri May  8 16:33:13 2009
From: mail at ozzmosis.com (andrew clarke)
Date: Fri May  8 16:33:20 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090508163309.GA24958@ozzmosis.com>

On Thu 2009-05-07 17:19:47 UTC-0700, Nerius Landys (nlandys@gmail.com) wrote:

> What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?

irssi
From illoai at gmail.com  Fri May  8 17:24:24 2009
From: illoai at gmail.com (illoai@gmail.com)
Date: Fri May  8 17:24:31 2009
Subject: What make is in 7.1?
In-Reply-To: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
References: <20090506163222.C6023@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
Message-ID: <d7195cff0905081018u2e0081a3nb313dd34214f5b0b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/6 Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com>:
>
> When I do man make I get a man page and it includes references to
> the pmake tutorial which seems to be basis of an HTMLize pmake
> tutorial in one of the books.
>
> But clearly the installed make is not the pmake described in the tutorial.
> The tutorial frequently suggest using Pmake -h for more details about
> particular points. ?But in 7.1 make -h results in an illegal option message.
> There is no pmake or Pmake. ?There is a pmake port but it won't build in
> 7.1.
>
> So it seems I have a lot of documentation for pmake, which clearly I don't
> have and can't get. ?Where is the documentation for the make I do have?
>

Have you tried
% man /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.gz
?

% man -d make
. . .
searching in /usr/share/man
trying section 1 with globbing
globbing /usr/share/man/man1/make.1*
found ultimate source file /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.gz
to_name in convert_name () is: /usr/share/man/cat1/make.1.gz
will try to write /usr/share/man/cat1/make.1.gz if needed
. . .

-- 
--
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Fri May  8 17:49:13 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Fri May  8 17:49:21 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
Message-ID: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?

I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does
not seem to be working properly.  Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot:

  FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
      root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
  Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
  CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU)
    Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
    Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
  real memory  = 67100672 (63 MB)
  avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB)
  ...
  atapci1: <VIA 6421 SATA150 controller> port 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0
  atapci1: [ITHREAD]
  ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
  ata2: [ITHREAD]
  ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
  ata3: [ITHREAD]
  ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
  ata4: [ITHREAD]
  ...
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: 61136MB <PATRIOT MEMORY 64GB SSD 02.10104> at ata3-master SATA150

At first things look OK, despite the "FAILURE" message:

  $ ls -l /dev/ad6*
  crw-r-----  1 root  operator    0,  88 May  3 20:30 /dev/ad6
  $ file -s /dev/ad6
  /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de
  $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf
  drive f: file="/dev/ad6"
  $ mdir f:
  init F: non DOS media
  Cannot initialize 'F:'

Now this seems a bit odd:  file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but
mdir(1) says it isn't.  (Note that there are no slices, else the
initial ls(1) should have shown them, so I suppose the drive has
a single FAT filesystem as one would expect on a floppy disk.)
Then, when I tried to investigate further by examining the contents
of the drive with "od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of
output followed by (on console and in dmesg):

  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
  ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
  ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936

etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
stop the spew of messages.)

What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
Something else?
From nightrecon at verizon.net  Fri May  8 18:22:28 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Fri May  8 18:22:35 2009
Subject: Changing NIC
References: <4A0432A0.40901@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <gu1t8h$13g$1@ger.gmane.org>

Jos Chrispijn wrote:

> - FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE
> 
> I am about the change the (working) nic of my FreeBSD server with a
> gigabit one.
> Logically I think it would be good to add the new nic first and test it
> and if it is working, just remove the old one (or leave it without cable).
> Is that the common way of doing such? Are there disadvantages with that?
> 

One caveat comes to mind is don't make the mistake of putting the new NIC
in the same subnet as the old one. If it tests out OK you can flip them
with an rc.conf edit and a reboot, and/or a netif restart if you don't want
to reboot.

-Mike




From perrin at apotheon.com  Fri May  8 18:36:45 2009
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Fri May  8 18:36:53 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
Message-ID: <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra>

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 01:09:51AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for advice on how I can take all of my code, and license it
> into the public domain. I'm sure that most people won't have any
> interest in it, but I really want to ensure that what I have done is
> freely accessible.

The term "public domain" has a very specific legal meaning and,
unfortunately, that meaning can actually vary from jurisdiction to
jurisdiction.  For instance, while France does have a public domain, you
cannot release a work into the public domain -- you must use a specific
license if you want to grant open access to that work.  In most
jurisdictions, "public domain" refers to a state where one has disclaimed
copyright for something or otherwise given up all copyright claims on it.

Note that "copyright" and "credit" are not the same thing, however.
Attribution is ethically a matter of fraud, and most jurisdictions will
legally treat it as a matter of fraud as well if something is
misrepresented as being written by someone other than its actual author,
though some jurisdictions add additional attribution protection through
copyright.

It is for reason of the fact that copyright law is much more widely
supported across different jurisdictions (i.e., in different countries or
legal systems) than any standardized understanding of public domain that
most people with any understanding of the complexities will recommend
using a license rather than the public domain, even if what you want is
effectively "the public domain".  If that's your actual goal, select a
license whose terms most closely approximate the public domain as you
understand it, and let that be your legally binding statement of intent
(for any jurisdiction that recognizes your copyright and your licensing
privilege under copyright law).

I'm happy to see someone wanting to make his code available to the world,
by the way.  Kudos to you.  If there are no competing copyright claims on
any of the work (such as an employment agreement that might interfere
with your sole copyright claims), I absolutely encourage you to see
through your intent to open the code up.

Note, however, that I am not a lawyer in *any* jurisdiction, and the
above should not be considered legal advice per se.  Courts of law are
notoriously fickle things that, for some reason, tend to be really bad at
interpreting things the way the majority of humans believe they should be
interpreted.  Let the buyer beware, as they say.


> 
> All of my code is pretty well separated into different files that
> contain different functions, so isolating portions of my programs that
> use modules or functions that are external is not a problem.
> 
> GPL seems too verbose legally for me. Can the BSD license fit into any
> code, no matter what language it is in, and if so, can I have my code
> overlooked by someone who can verify that the BSD license will fit?

Have you considered choosing a license that doesn't lock what you give to
the world into the realm of "code"?  While the terms of the BSD license
for code in particular are great in my opinion, the fact that they
specify software source code is not so great, because sticky ambiguities
can arise when someone wants to include that code in a non-software
context (such as writing an article or a book that makes use of the code,
including it in music lyrics, showing it in a video production of some
sort, and so on).

My favorite license for all purposes at present is the Open Works
License, and I actually use it to license all my emails to this mailing
list:

  http://owl.apotheon.org

While I'm at it, my favorite general licensing policy is copyfree.  Where
strong copyright protection is the default for many countries, notably
the US and much of Europe, and copyleft is the Free Software Foundation's
answer to copyright as a way of turning the purpose of copyright on its
head, copyfree is kind of a rejection of both copyright and copyleft.
Check out the canonical explanation:

  http://copyfree.org/policy/

Both the BSD license and the Open Works License are copyfree licenses, as
are a number of other popular and widely used licenses.

I hope you get some value from my rambling.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth Thomas McCauley: "The measure of a man's real character is what he
would do if he knew he would never be found out."
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From chris at vindaloo.com  Fri May  8 20:28:51 2009
From: chris at vindaloo.com (Christopher Sean Hilton)
Date: Fri May  8 20:28:59 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
	<F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
	<970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
	<115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
Message-ID: <D1549A6B-8928-479D-A195-4173FBCC3E41@vindaloo.com>


On May 8, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

> --On Thursday, May 07, 2009 22:16:01 -0500 Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>>>
>> While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and  
>> Linux
>> hosts on my network.
>>
>
> Hopefully it will work well for me too.  However, I am struggling  
> with the documentation, trying to figure out how to translate the  
> developer-speak into normal human language.
>
> Here's what one of our guys is using on linux (I changed the  
> hostname to foobar):

> cat /etc/auto.master
> /home   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/ 
> nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
> /proj   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/ 
> nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
> /net    -hosts
>

I haven't played with Linux's autofs and when I did my look at it was  
shallow. From what you have here it looks like foobar.utdallas.edu is  
a NFS v3 server that offers a pair of directory hierarchies. He's  
mounting one of them on locally as /home and another as /proj. If you  
want to do that in FreeBSD this should get you going.


*** /etc/amd/amd.conf ***

[ global ]
         browsable_dirs =                        no
         map_type =                                      file
         mount_type =                            nfs
         search_path =                           /etc

         auto_dir =                                      /.amd
         cache_duration =                        30
         log_file =                                      syslog:daemon
         log_options =                           fatal,error
         print_pid =                                     yes
         pid_file =                                      /var/run/ 
amd.pid
         restart_mounts =                        yes
         selectors_in_defaults =         no

[ /home ]
         map_name =                                      /etc/amd/ 
home.map

[ /proj ]
         map_name =                                      /etc/amd/ 
proj.map

*** /etc/amd/home.map ***

/defaults       type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3;\
                         rhost:=foobar.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/home/${key}

*                       fs:=${autodir}/home/${key}

*** /etc/amd/proj.map ***

/defaults       type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3;\
                         rhost:=foobar.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/proj/${key}

*                       fs:=${autodir}/proj/${key}


-------------------------------

In the map files you'll need to make sure that the rfs entry matches  
the directory tree that foobar.utdallas.edu is exporting. e.g. if you  
would manually mount the directory under FreeBSD like this:

      # mount_nfs -o tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/ 
pschmehl /home/pschmehl

or the fstab entry that you would use looks like this:

      # foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/pschmehl /home/pschmehl nfs  
noauto,tcp,intr 0 0

Then the rfs entry should look like this:

      ...;rfs:=/home/${key}

This setup assumes that you've exported the directory try with  
FreeBSD's equivalent of the -alldirs option. This option allows you to  
mount any point under the exported tree rather than forcing you to  
mount the entire filesystem. A typical setup on FreeBSD would be to  
export /home with --alldirs then an NFS client can mount /home/ 
cshilton or /home/jbauer or whatever.

Hope this helps

-- Chris

Sorry if I've got some minor bobbles in the syntax on the mount or  
fstab lines.






> So how do I tranlsate that into FreeBSD amd conf and map files?   
> It's got me stumped.
>
> -- 
> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
> As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
> are my own and not those of my employer.
> *******************************************
> Check the headers before clicking on Reply.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> "
>

-- 
Chris Hilton                                   chris-at-vindaloo-dot-com
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                "All I was doing was trying to get home from work!"
                                                 -- Rosa Parks

From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Fri May  8 20:31:14 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Fri May  8 20:31:21 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>	<4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com>

Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>
>> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an
>> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot,
>> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still
>> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.
>>
>> Should I give up or are there other things to try?
> 
> Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or textdump)

`fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a 
crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb

I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as 
my recent build world.

I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko.

I've got
wlans_ndis0="wlan0"
in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card.

The interrupt storm starts when I do

# ifconfig wlan0 <ip addr>

The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig.

I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel 
(nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot 
messages, nothing in /var/crash).
I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if 
required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format?

I built a kernel with the following changes

#cpu            I486_CPU
#cpu            I586_CPU

#makeoptions    DEBUG=-g                # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug 
symbols

#options        KDB                     # Enable kernel debugger support.
#options        DDB                     # Support DDB.
#options        GDB                     # Support remote GDB.
#options        INVARIANTS              # Enable calls of extra sanity 
checking
#options        INVARIANT_SUPPORT       # Extra sanity checks of 
internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
#options        WITNESS                 # Enable checks to detect 
deadlocks and cycles
#options        WITNESS_SKIPSPIN        # Don't run witness on spinlocks 
for speed



I got on ttyv0:

interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source

repeated about 20 times then

Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock
panic: sleeping thread
cpuid = 0
Uptime:17m26s
Physical memory: 434 MB
Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16
Dump complete

(The above typed by hand)

Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer 
and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been 
fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and 
I don't understand it :)

uname -a
FreeBSD eight.config 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May  8 
11:20:35 BST 2009     root@eight.config:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

Thanks

Chris
From tundra at tundraware.com  Fri May  8 20:34:00 2009
From: tundra at tundraware.com (Tim Daneliuk)
Date: Fri May  8 20:34:07 2009
Subject: 7.2-Stable - smbfs.ko Is Missing
In-Reply-To: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com>
References: <4A045472.9050404@tundraware.com>
Message-ID: <4A04972C.6010606@tundraware.com>

Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I just did an update and make world/kernel with the stable sources as of
> this morning.  The boot process grumbles and goes single user because
> it cannot find smbfs.ko to mount some SMB shares.  Any ideas why this
> module has suddenly disappeared and/or a workaround?
> 
> Thanks,

Nevermind - a new make world/kernel fixed things ... it may have been an
artifact of a full /tmp filesystem ...


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From talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr  Fri May  8 21:00:54 2009
From: talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel Talon)
Date: Fri May  8 21:01:01 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
Message-ID: <20090508210050.GA35589@lpthe.jussieu.fr>

Paul Schmehl wrote:

> /home   ldap
> //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
> nfsvers=3 proto=tcp

According to the documentation of FreeBSD amd one can use ldap
maps with it (i have no experience of that). The doc is in:
/usr/src/contrib/amd/doc/am-utils.texi 




-- 

Michel TALON

From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Fri May  8 21:08:09 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Fri May  8 21:08:17 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <D1549A6B-8928-479D-A195-4173FBCC3E41@vindaloo.com>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
	<F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
	<970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
	<115CE74FFEDF152EA4EFA58F@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
	<D1549A6B-8928-479D-A195-4173FBCC3E41@vindaloo.com>
Message-ID: <AD00EA22657F951728090DBA@utd65257.utdallas.edu>

--On Friday, May 08, 2009 14:56:34 -0500 Christopher Sean Hilton 
<chris@vindaloo.com> wrote:
>
> In the map files you'll need to make sure that the rfs entry matches
> the directory tree that foobar.utdallas.edu is exporting. e.g. if you
> would manually mount the directory under FreeBSD like this:
>
>       # mount_nfs -o tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/
> pschmehl /home/pschmehl
>

I can mount my homedir this way:
# mount_nfs foobar.utdallas.edu:/home/003/p/pa/pauls /mnt/unix_home

I assume this means that this should work:
rfs:=/home/003/p/pa/${key}

And then I cd to /Home/pauls  (there's a section in my amd.conf file named 
[/Home] that has a corresponding map file amd.home which contains the syntax 
for mapping the drive.

# cat /etc/amd.conf | grep -A3 Home
[/Home]
map_type        =nfs
map_name        =amd.home
mount_type      =autofs

# cat /etc/amd.home
/defaults       type:=nfs;opts:=tcp,intr,nodev,nosuid,umount,vers=3 \
                rhost:olympus.utdallas.edu;rfs:=/home/003/p/pa/${key}

*               fs=${autodir}/${key}

But that fails with a directory does not exist error.

But I can already map my home drive manually.  What I'm trying to figure out is 
how to use our ldap server to mount my home drive so that when/if it gets moved 
again (which happens occasionally) it will still mount and not break.

The Linux construction is:
ldap //rhost/nismapname=auto_home,ldap_base,nfsvers=3,proto=tcp.  I can't for 
the life of me figure out how to get from that syntax to the amd syntax.  But 
since I can't even automount my home using what I thought was the right syntax 
for amd, I guess I need to figure that out first.

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
*******************************************
Check the headers before clicking on Reply.

From Ggatten at waddell.com  Fri May  8 21:23:50 2009
From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten)
Date: Fri May  8 21:23:56 2009
Subject: [warn] kevent: Bad file descriptor
Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>

I just compiled and installed nTop 3.3.10 and now I'm getting this
error.  Had an older version running before this with no problem.  I'm
on 6.0 RELEASE.  I'm still googling, any quick fixes would be GREATLY
appreciated!  I've been debugging and compiling all day and want to
leave with this $hhh   IT  working!

 

TIA!

 

Gary

 






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From vogelke+unix at pobox.com  Fri May  8 21:51:44 2009
From: vogelke+unix at pobox.com (Karl Vogel)
Date: Fri May  8 21:51:52 2009
Subject: Run script on boot, as ordinary user
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071722t79978104v1401f99b5cedabb0@mail.gmail.com>
	(message from Nerius Landys on Thu, 7 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700)
Message-ID: <20090508214726.948D0BEAA@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil>

>> On Thu, 7 May 2009 17:22:01 -0700, 
>> Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> said:

N> Seems that @reboot in cron is what I need.  It's too bad that there's
N> no straightforward shutdown hook.

   I use something like the script below to send me a popup message
   whenever one of my boxes shuts down, planned or otherwise.  It assumes
   that if you can run cron jobs, you can be trusted to run something
   as yourself at system shutdown.

   For safety, nothing is run as root, and cron users can only run a
   script called called '/home/./$username/rc.d/shutdown'.  Add this
   to /etc/rc.shutdown:
      run-rc-shutdown | sh

   If you don't have "setuidgid" installed, replace with "su -c ..."

-- 
Karl Vogel                      I don't speak for the USAF or my company

The little boat gently drifted across the pond exactly the way a bowling
ball wouldn't.     --bizarre expressions found in student English papers

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# run-rc-shutdown: print commands to run any non-root shutdown scripts.

use strict;
my ($dir, $dh, $home, $script, $uid, $usr);

$dir = '/var/cron/tabs';               # BSD.
#$dir = '/var/spool/cron/crontabs';    # Solaris.

opendir($dh, "$dir") || die "opendir $dir: $!\n";
my @users = sort (grep (!/^\./, readdir($dh)));
closedir($dh);

foreach (@users) {
    ($usr, $uid, $dir) = (getpwnam($_))[0,2,7];
    next unless $dir =~ m!/home/./$usr!;
    next unless $uid > 0;
    $script = $dir . '/rc.d/shutdown';
    print "/usr/local/bin/setuidgid $usr $script\n" if -x $script;
}

exit(0);
From invocatum at gmail.com  Fri May  8 22:37:40 2009
From: invocatum at gmail.com (D C)
Date: Fri May  8 22:37:47 2009
Subject: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me)
Message-ID: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have
been having problems getting bpf running.  For some reason, even though bpf
has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a
bpf0 device.  On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no devices
found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory".

The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my
WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static
IP.

I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card,
edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and
eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live
messages.

I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some of
the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=wheel

network={
ssid="my_ssid"
scan_ssid=1
proto=RSN
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=CCMP
psk="my_ssid"
}

If someone would be so kind as to explain what is calling bpf and how I can
create a bpf0 device by hand, I would be indebted.

Thanks...
From mike at sentex.net  Sat May  9 01:38:03 2009
From: mike at sentex.net (mike@sentex.net)
Date: Sat May  9 01:38:16 2009
Subject: Compass 597 Sprint
In-Reply-To: <e300c7d50905070825o2245ccd4wdb71b7867a0986bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e300c7d50905070825o2245ccd4wdb71b7867a0986bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ldn905ts575cvg3oe7ec0uo6e9bm77srtq@4ax.com>

On Thu, 7 May 2009 08:25:39 -0700, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

>Has anyone got a Compass 597 from Sprint to work?
>And if so can I get some pointers?

Not sure about the sprint version, but I use the Telus version and it
works quite well with u3g from STABLE and HEAD


Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Inc.
Model: C597 Rev 1.0 (2)
Revision: p2314500,8087 [Mar 06 2008 17:19:08]
QCOM: SWI6800V2_FD.00.32
BOOT: SWI6800V2_FP.01.45 2008/03/07 16:36:13
APPL: SWI6800V2_FP.01.45 2008/03/07 16:36:13
SWOC: CDPC_00004_01.02.02
USB VID: 0x1199 PID: 0x0023
+GCAP: +CIS707-A, CIS-856, CIS-856-A, +MS, +ES, +DS, +FCLASS

For ppp I use

evdo:
 set device /dev/cuaU0.0
 set speed 115200
 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \
           \"\" AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0s7=60 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40
CONNECT"
 set phone "#777"
 # The authname and authkey are meaningless, but you need to have them
set.
 # Verizon's servers don't seem to care what you auth as.
 set authname "doesn't matter"
 set authkey "doesn't matter either"
 disable vjcomp       
 disable acfcomp
 disable deflate 
 disable deflate24
 disable pred1
 disable protocomp
 disable mppe
 disable ipv6cp
 disable lqr
 disable echo
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR                    # Add a (sticky) default route
 enable dns
From mikealbritton at aol.com  Sat May  9 01:40:01 2009
From: mikealbritton at aol.com (Mike Albritton)
Date: Sat May  9 01:40:09 2009
Subject: Instant Workstation
Message-ID: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net>

What the fsck happened to the "Instant Workstation" port???
I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 Netinstall.  Good network connection, clean install, etc.
Just not finding that specific port.
Has it been renamed (or abandoned?)

Thanks in advance.
---
Mike Albritton
From glarkin at FreeBSD.org  Sat May  9 02:46:42 2009
From: glarkin at FreeBSD.org (Greg Larkin)
Date: Sat May  9 02:46:49 2009
Subject: Instant Workstation
In-Reply-To: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net>
References: <000801c9d044$4c6af000$4401a8c0@gateway.2wire.net>
Message-ID: <4A04EE7A.10108@FreeBSD.org>

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Mike Albritton wrote:
> What the fsck happened to the "Instant Workstation" port???
> I'm using FreeBSD 7.2 Netinstall.  Good network connection, clean install, etc.
> Just not finding that specific port.
> Has it been renamed (or abandoned?)
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> ---
> Mike Albritton
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

Hi Mike,

The port was deleted a while back:
http://www.freshports.org/misc/instant-workstation/

I suppose you could pull your own local copy of the port, if you needed
to:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/misc/instant-workstation/?hideattic=0#dirlist

The port was deleted due to an incomplete pkg-list and no one fixed it
before the expiration date.

Regards,
Greg
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Greg Larkin
http://www.FreeBSD.org/
http://twitter.com/sourcehosting
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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Sat May  9 07:57:34 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Sat May  9 07:57:41 2009
Subject: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me)
In-Reply-To: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905090956130.56901@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have
> been having problems getting bpf running.  For some reason, even though bpf
> has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a
are you sure? your symptops suggest it was not compiled it
From derek at computinginnovations.com  Sat May  9 08:04:14 2009
From: derek at computinginnovations.com (Derek Ragona)
Date: Sat May  9 08:04:23 2009
Subject: FreeBSD on VMware ESXi
In-Reply-To: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45135@EXCH-01.mbint.mul
	tibanka.com>
References: <E8298C3B2FC1CC43B3FBAC70544780A602D45135@EXCH-01.mbint.multibanka.com>
Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508063723.025c28b0@mail.computinginnovations.com>

At 05:44 AM 5/6/2009, Daniels Vanags wrote:
>We moved Hard Disk Drives from HP ProLiant DL 385 G2 with 4GB RAM, AMD
>Opteron processor to HP ProLiant DL 380 G5, 4GB RAM, Intel Xeon
>processor.
>
>Disks contain FreeBSD Virtual Machines running in VMware ESXi Server.
>When trying to boot, getting error: BTX halted.
>
>Please explain, how to start FreeBSD on different hardware.
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Daniel Vanags
>
>Information Technology  Department
>
>IT infrastructure system engineer

I'm not sure what exactly you've done from your posting above.  I have 
FreeBSD running in VM's under ESXi.  I have moved the FreeBSD VM's from 
physical server to server without much trouble.  The devices presented to 
the FreeBSD VM are dependent the VM configuration, so I would check there 
first.  You may have selected a different SCSI host adapter in the VM 
settings for instance.

I believe the problem you are experiencing is more to do with your ESXi/VM 
configuration than FreeBSD.

         -Derek

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From jos at webrz.net  Sat May  9 11:05:02 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Sat May  9 11:05:08 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
Message-ID: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>

Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is not 
automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by 
UPDATING) has to be updated by some manual interaction?

--
Jos Chrispijn

From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Sat May  9 12:10:20 2009
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Sat May  9 12:10:27 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <20090509131016.66f4332f@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Sat, 09 May 2009 13:05:32 +0200
Jos Chrispijn <jos@webrz.net> wrote:

> Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is
> not automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by 
> UPDATING) has to be updated by some manual interaction?

That's the way the port system works.  perl5.6, perl5.8 and perl5.10 are
separate ports, making it automatic would involve forcing people off
perl5.8 and marking it as "moved".
From luvbeastie at larseighner.com  Sat May  9 12:21:50 2009
From: luvbeastie at larseighner.com (Lars Eighner)
Date: Sat May  9 12:21:57 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>

On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

> Not that I am that paranoid, but can someone tell me why Perl 5.8 is not 
> automatically updated to 5.10 thru the ports, but (accordingly by UPDATING) 
> has to be updated by some manual interaction?

You must be new around here.

The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is relatively
painless compared to previous perl upgrades.  So much stuff depends upon
perl that:

1) special treatment is required to be sure you end up with a system that is
functional in practice,

and

2) people should not be misled as to the extent of the work involved.
Use pkg_info -R <name of installed perl package> to see what you may be in
for.

Perl was once ("recently" for some of us) part of the system.  Logic may be
on the side of considering it an application, but as a practical matter it
is a distinction without a (big) difference.


-- 
Lars Eighner
http://www.larseighner.com/index.html
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Sat May  9 13:09:58 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Sat May  9 13:10:06 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
	<6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905091447070.16971@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

On Fri, 8 May 2009, Derek Ragona wrote:

> At 09:42 AM 5/7/2009, Pieter Donche wrote:
>       FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server.
>       It hands out an IP address, OK,
>       but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why?
>
>       (A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be
>       queried from a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see
>       the hostname associated with the IP-address)
> 
> 
> I have a later version of dhcpd running on FreeBSD without problems.  If
> your DHCP scope is setup correctly and your DHCP clients are getting
> settings that work, I'm not sure what is the problem you are experiencing. 
> You hostname variable can be set in the startup bash (or any other shell's
> startup scripts) scripts on login.

Of course, it can be set by oneself in a startup script, 
but this should not be needed...

In fact when I switch the network cable of that DHCP client PC
to another subnet, where another DHCP server is active (don't know 
on what OS that DHCP server runs but certainly not FreeBSD), then 
HOSTNAME is set.

My DHCPclient is triple boot (SUSE linux, FreeBSD7 and Windows), 
With network cable again in first network (with the FreeBSD7/isc-dhcp-server
DHCP server) when I boot into SuSE Linux, the HOSTNAME variable is set ... 
So it is the combination FreeBSD7-amd64/isc-dhcp30-server as a DHCP server
that does not set HOSTNAME ...   I am puzzled why ...

overview:

case DHCP server             DHCP client       HOSTNAME env. var.

  1   isc-dhcp30-server       FreeBSD7-i386     not set
       on FreeBSD-amd64
  2   isc-dhcp30-server       SuSE Linux 10.3   set
       on FreeBSD-amd64

  3   some DHCP server        FreeBSD7-i386     set
       on unkown serverOS
  4   some DHCP server        SuSE Linux 10.3   set
        on unkown serverOS

I compared from case 1 and 3 all variables that are set after a 
login (unix set command, and with a login using standard .profile and 
.bashrc startup scripts as created when creating a new user via useradd), 
and the only difference is precisely this HOSTNAME env. variable not 
being set (and of course some of them derived from that env. var.)

>
>         -Derek
> 
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
>
From jos at webrz.net  Sat May  9 13:13:24 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Sat May  9 13:13:32 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
Message-ID: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>

Lars Eighner wrote:
> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>
> You must be new around here.
Yes, I am L-)
> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is 
> relatively
> painless compared to previous perl upgrades.  So much stuff depends upon
> perl that:
[snip]

Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8?

thanks,
Jos Chrispijn
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Sat May  9 13:25:55 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Sat May  9 13:26:02 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
	<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
Message-ID: <4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> Lars Eighner wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

>> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is 
>> relatively
>> painless compared to previous perl upgrades.  So much stuff depends upon
>> perl that:

> Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8?

I've updated a number of machines to perl-5.10, and apart from the sheer
amount of stuff that needs re-installing it has been virtually painless.

Most publicly available perl modules are written to be compatible with
perl-5.8.3 or later and unless you're being bitten by some version specific
bug there's no really pressing reason to upgrade to 5.10 right now.  On
the other hand, neither is there any really pressing reason /not/ to upgrade.
It's all down to personal preference.

However, I expect the consensus on the minimum supported version to change
over time and more use to be made of 5.10 specific features, so I'd certainly
recommend installing brand new machines with perl-5.10 in order to minimize
the potential for future pain.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
                                                  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
                                                  Kent, CT11 9PW

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From luvbeastie at larseighner.com  Sat May  9 13:34:32 2009
From: luvbeastie at larseighner.com (Lars Eighner)
Date: Sat May  9 13:34:39 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
	<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
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On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:

> Lars Eighner wrote:
>> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>> 
>> You must be new around here.
> Yes, I am L-)
>> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is relatively
>> painless compared to previous perl upgrades.  So much stuff depends upon
>> perl that:
> [snip]
>
> Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8?

Unless you know there is something in 5.10 that you need now, I recommend
waiting at least a little bit.  Let the gotta-have-the-newest-shiny folks
take the sharp edges off.  Study the dependencies list from pkg_info and
dependencies of any big thing you plan to install.  If you are going to
(re-)build something big or a lot of little things anyway, it may make sense
to upgrade perl just before you do that so that rebuilding the ports that
depend on perl will kill two birds with one stone.  If such an opportunity
doesn't arise, maybe do it anyway about the time of the first frost ---
snuggle up in front of the blazing compiler and sip hot chocolate.


-- 
Lars Eighner
http://www.larseighner.com/index.html
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

From steve at ibctech.ca  Sat May  9 13:47:58 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Sat May  9 13:48:05 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
	<20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra>
Message-ID: <4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca>

Chad Perrin wrote:

[..huge snip..]

> I hope you get some value from my rambling.

I have gained very much value from what everyone has had to say, and I
want to thank everyone.

Although I have very much reading to do, I've come to a few conclusions
thus far.

One thing that did not cross my mind prior was regarding the comments
Chad made, use in media other than within the programming scope itself.

FYI, almost all of my apps are for systems/network management and
automation. I've written an application that bridges our wireless
hotspots to our payment bank site (the bank supplied me a Perl module),
through to radius, and with an expiry method to automatically remove the
users so that the entire process is hands off.

Most of my code would have to be changed to make it generic and not so
site specific before being put out there. Being that I'm not really a
programmer, having my code out there for peer review would make it much,
much better if it was useful. (I'd probably be on the receiving end of
finger pointing and laughing, but that's ok ;)

Thanks all!

Steve

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From luvbeastie at larseighner.com  Sat May  9 14:00:53 2009
From: luvbeastie at larseighner.com (Lars Eighner)
Date: Sat May  9 14:00:59 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
	<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net> <4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090509085542.F56540@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>

On Sat, 9 May 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> However, I expect the consensus on the minimum supported version to change
> over time and more use to be made of 5.10 specific features, so I'd certainly
> recommend installing brand new machines with perl-5.10 in order to minimize
> the potential for future pain.

I concur.  If you do the pkg_info thing and the list of stuff depending on
perl is very short, by all means upgrade before it gets long.

-- 
Lars Eighner
http://www.larseighner.com/index.html
8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266

From onemda at gmail.com  Sat May  9 14:43:00 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sat May  9 14:43:14 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905090742i4bf80d45n323a81d3e18223a@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/8/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>> On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an
>>> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot,
>>> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still
>>> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.
>>>
>>> Should I give up or are there other things to try?
>>
>> Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or
>> textdump)
>
> `fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a
> crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb
>
> I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as
> my recent build world.
>
> I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko.
>
> I've got
> wlans_ndis0="wlan0"
> in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card.
>
> The interrupt storm starts when I do
>
> # ifconfig wlan0 <ip addr>
>
> The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig.
>
> I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel
> (nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot
> messages, nothing in /var/crash).
> I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if
> required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format?
>
> I built a kernel with the following changes
>
> #cpu            I486_CPU
> #cpu            I586_CPU
>
> #makeoptions    DEBUG=-g                # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug

Oh nooooo, crash dump is useless with that option commented in kernel.
[You can alway just look at documentation installed in /usr/share/doc/,
for example developers handbook]

> symbols
>
> #options        KDB                     # Enable kernel debugger support.
> #options        DDB                     # Support DDB.
> #options        GDB                     # Support remote GDB.
> #options        INVARIANTS              # Enable calls of extra sanity
> checking
> #options        INVARIANT_SUPPORT       # Extra sanity checks of
> internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
> #options        WITNESS                 # Enable checks to detect
> deadlocks and cycles
> #options        WITNESS_SKIPSPIN        # Don't run witness on spinlocks
> for speed
Both KDB, DDB, GDB, WITNESS and INVARIANTS are usefull in debugging kernel.
So please uncomment all that debugging support.
After all you can build two kernels, and use boot loader command or nextboot(8)

>
>
>
> I got on ttyv0:
>
> interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source
>
> repeated about 20 times then
>
> Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock

Heh, thats is bug, now only remains to find where it is caused.

> panic: sleeping thread
> cpuid = 0
> Uptime:17m26s
> Physical memory: 434 MB
> Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16
> Dump complete
>
> (The above typed by hand)
>
> Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer
> and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been
> fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and
> I don't understand it :)

You can always ask me off list for anything that you don't understand.

-- 
Paul
From utisoft at googlemail.com  Sat May  9 14:46:14 2009
From: utisoft at googlemail.com (Chris Rees)
Date: Sat May  9 14:46:22 2009
Subject: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me)
In-Reply-To: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b79ecaef0905090745vfd3c77at7e1a8a46e6ec815a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/8 D C <invocatum@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have
> been having problems getting bpf running. ?For some reason, even though bpf
> has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically create a
> bpf0 device. ?On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no devices
> found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory".
>
> The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my
> WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static
> IP.
>
> I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card,
> edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and
> eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live
> messages.
>
> I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some of
> the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows:
>
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> ctrl_interface_group=wheel
>
> network={
> ssid="my_ssid"
> scan_ssid=1
> proto=RSN
> key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
> pairwise=CCMP
> psk="my_ssid"
> }
>
> If someone would be so kind as to explain what is calling bpf and how I can
> create a bpf0 device by hand, I would be indebted.
>
> Thanks...

[chris@amnesiac]~% ls /dev/bpf0
/dev/bpf0
[chris@amnesiac]~% grep bpf /root/AMN
AMNESIAC.conf       AMNESIAC.xbox.conf
[chris@amnesiac]~% grep bpf /root/AMNESIAC.conf
# The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP.
device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter
[chris@amnesiac]~%

Are you *sure* you've compiled in bpf? Did you reboot after recompiling?

Chris



-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
From onemda at gmail.com  Sat May  9 14:46:25 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sat May  9 14:46:32 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?
>
> I have added a 64GB Patriot flash drive to a 7.0 system, but it does
> not seem to be working properly.  Pertinent parts of dmesg.boot:
>
>   FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008
>       root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>   Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
>   CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (449.85-MHz 686-class CPU)
>     Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
>
> Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
>   real memory  = 67100672 (63 MB)
>   avail memory = 51662848 (49 MB)
>   ...
>   atapci1: <VIA 6421 SATA150 controller> port
> 0x1800-0x180f,0x14f0-0x14ff,0x14e0-0x14ef,0x14d0-0x14df,0x14a0-0x14bf,0x1000-0x10ff
> irq 9 at device 16.0 on pci0
>   atapci1: [ITHREAD]
>   ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
>   ata2: [ITHREAD]
>   ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
>   ata3: [ITHREAD]
>   ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
>   ata4: [ITHREAD]
>   ...
>   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
>   ad6: 61136MB <PATRIOT MEMORY 64GB SSD 02.10104> at ata3-master SATA150
>
> At first things look OK, despite the "FAILURE" message:
>
>   $ ls -l /dev/ad6*
>   crw-r-----  1 root  operator    0,  88 May  3 20:30 /dev/ad6
>   $ file -s /dev/ad6
>   /dev/ad6: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x9e5523de
>   $ grep -w ad6 /usr/local/etc/mtools.conf
>   drive f: file="/dev/ad6"
>   $ mdir f:
>   init F: non DOS media
>   Cannot initialize 'F:'
>
> Now this seems a bit odd:  file(1) says it's a Windows disk, but
> mdir(1) says it isn't.  (Note that there are no slices, else the
> initial ls(1) should have shown them, so I suppose the drive has
> a single FAT filesystem as one would expect on a floppy disk.)
> Then, when I tried to investigate further by examining the contents
> of the drive with "od -c /dev/ad6 | more", I got one screenful of
> output followed by (on console and in dmesg):
>
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
>   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=10712
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
>   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
>
> etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
> more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
> stop the spew of messages.)
>
> What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
> Something else?
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> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>

Output of "vmstat -i"?

-- 
Paul
From dleal at webvolution.net  Sat May  9 15:15:57 2009
From: dleal at webvolution.net (Daniel Leal)
Date: Sat May  9 15:16:05 2009
Subject: freebsd-update
Message-ID: <4A0598AE.1080403@webvolution.net>

Hi.

I just read about freebsd-update in the handbook. It seams very useful 
to upgrade my 7.1 system to 7.2.
But what about ports and docs? Is it able to deal with that upgrade also ?
thanks,

daniel

From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Sat May  9 17:09:28 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Sat May  9 17:09:35 2009
Subject: [warn] kevent: Bad file descriptor
In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EC47@WADPEXV0.waddell.com>
Message-ID: <200905091909.25788.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Friday 08 May 2009 23:23:32 Gary Gatten wrote:
> I just compiled and installed nTop 3.3.10 and now I'm getting this
> error.  Had an older version running before this with no problem.  I'm
> on 6.0 RELEASE.  I'm still googling, any quick fixes would be GREATLY
> appreciated!

Shot in the dark: mount /proc. 
-- 
Mel
From jos at webrz.net  Sat May  9 17:16:12 2009
From: jos at webrz.net (Jos Chrispijn)
Date: Sat May  9 17:16:19 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20090509085542.F56540@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
	<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
	<4A058450.2020606@infracaninophile.co.uk>
	<20090509085542.F56540@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
Message-ID: <4A05BA7A.4080902@webrz.net>


Lars Eighner wrote:
> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>
> I concur.  If you do the pkg_info thing and the list of stuff 
> depending on
> perl is very short, by all means upgrade before it gets long.
After having some investigation on this subject, it comes clear to me 
that Perl is a very important part of my FreeBSD. Before that I 
considered it only as an app, nothing more than that *-) I did the 
update on a backup server and it took me 5 hours to get this done (going 
thru a full install of FreeBSD). Rebooted the system and so far no 
strange side-effects.
I will though keep attention on evt. flaws on its behavior, allthough I 
expect the developer has it throuroughly tested before releasing it.

thanks for sharing,

--
Jos Chrispijn
From river at loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk  Sat May  9 17:32:01 2009
From: river at loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk (River Tarnell)
Date: Sat May  9 17:32:07 2009
Subject: connect() records in BSM auditing
Message-ID: <20090509173157.GO17743@loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk>

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hi,

i'm using BSM auditing on 7.2-RELEASE to log network connections.  i enabled
'nt' in audit_control:

flags:lo,ad,+ex,na,+nt

when examining the audit log with praudit, i see records for connect() calls:

 header,68,10,connect(2),0,Sat May  9 16:00:00 2009, + 560 msec
 subject,rriver,root,wheel,root,wheel,43709,835,15007,255.255.255.255
 return,success,0
 trailer,68

however, i don't see that the destination (or source) address is logged
anywhere.  i don't really see the point of auditing network activity without
this information--is this a missing feature, or have i misconfigured something?

thanks,
river.
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From nevadadirren at gmail.com  Sat May  9 19:00:12 2009
From: nevadadirren at gmail.com (Fabian Krook)
Date: Sat May  9 19:00:19 2009
Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
Message-ID: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>

When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and
then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X
-config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be
terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) Any
clue?
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 19:11:10 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 19:11:30 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
In-Reply-To: <970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090507035523.GA6073@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
	<F85DE35BBF59C10393E79E1E@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
	<970380130905072016gecc607cr1e5401d8e396366b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93D8ECC8AF9F5E43679AE26B@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 7, 2009 10:16:01 PM -0500 Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>>
> While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux
> hosts on my network.
>

And I'm sure it will for me as well, if I can ever figure it out.  Here's 
how our linux hosts are automounting drives:

cat /etc/auto.master
/home   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/proj   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/net    -hosts

How do I translate that into FBSD amd speak?

I have to tell you, the amd docs are not for the faint of heart.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
WARNING: Check the headers before replying

From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 19:11:11 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 19:11:32 2009
Subject: Autofs howto
Message-ID: <E82EFDBD8DF86C9FC75774B1@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 7, 2009 10:16:01 PM -0500 Jason Garrett <kingedgar@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>>
> While cryptic, It has worked well for me with multiple FreeBSD and Linux
> hosts on my network.
>

And I'm sure it will for me as well, if I can ever figure it out.  Here's 
how our Linux hosts are automounting drives.

cat /etc/auto.master
/home   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_home,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/proj   ldap //foobar.utdallas.edu/nismapname=auto_proj,dc=utdallas,dc=edu 
nfsvers=3 proto=tcp
/net    -hosts

Can anyone translate that into FBSD amd speak?

I have to tell you, the docs for amd are not for the faint of heart.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
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From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 19:11:13 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 19:11:33 2009
Subject: Problems with amd
Message-ID: <FF4F3B6B10A9CBBA5160A9A5@Macintosh-2.local>

It looks like my install of amd is screwed up.  Is there a way to rebuild 
amd from source without rebuilding world?

# uname -a
FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #12: Wed May 
6 12:12:16 CDT 2009 
root@utd65257.utdallas.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

 amd -r
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  no logfile defined; using stderr
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  AM-UTILS VERSION INFORMATION:
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Erez 
Zadok
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 Jan-Simon 
Pendry
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 Imperial 
College of Science, Technology & Medicine
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents 
of the University of California.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  am-utils version 6.1.5 (build 
702100).
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Report bugs to 
https://bugzilla.am-utils.org/ or am-utils@am-utils.org.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Configured by David O'Brien 
<obrien@FreeBSD.org> on date 4-December-2007 PST.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Built by 
root@utd65257.utdallas.edu on date Wed May  6 11:44:19 CDT 2009.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  cpu=i386 (little-endian), 
arch=i386, karch=i386.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  full_os=freebsd7.2, 
os=freebsd7, osver=7.2, vendor=undermydesk, distro=The FreeBSD Project.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  domain=utdallas.edu, 
host=utd65257, hostd=utd65257.utdallas.edu.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Map support for: root, passwd, 
union, nis, ndbm, file, exec, error.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  AMFS: nfs, link, nfsx, nfsl, 
host, linkx, program, union, ufs, cdfs,
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:        pcfs, auto, direct, 
toplvl, error, inherit.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  FS: cd9660, nfs, nfs3, nullfs, 
msdosfs, ufs, unionfs.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Network: wire="129.110.3.0" 
(netnumber=129.110.3).
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  My ip addr is 127.0.0.1

This all looks OK, but look what happens when I try to load the amd.conf 
file:

# amd -F /etc/amd.conf
AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global)

Here's the first two lines of the amd.conf file:
# cat -n /etc/amd.conf
     1	# GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION
     2	[global]
     3	auto_dir	=/.amd_net

Line two is the syntax for the global section and is correct.  I've tried 
putting spaces around the word global.  I've tried using other types of 
brackets.  Nothing works.

And there's another thing.  The /etc/defaults/rc.conf file has a flags 
line for amd:
# grep amd_flags /etc/defaults/rc.conf
bootparamd_flags=""		# Flags to bootparamd
amd_enable="NO"			# Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO).
amd_flags="-a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map"

If I add an amd_flags section to /etc/rc.conf (which should override 
what's in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, amd will not start:

# grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf
amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log"

# /etc/rc.d/amd restart
Stopping amd.
Waiting for PIDS: 22821, 22821.
NFS access cache time=60
Starting amd.

# /etc/rc.d/amd status
amd is not running.

Apparently, when amd starts with the /etc/defaults/rc.conf settings, it 
does not parse the /etc/amd.conf file, which allows it to run.  But that 
means I have to edit /etc/defaults/rc.conf if I want to make any changes 
*and* I can't have an amd.conf file.  Clearly this is not correct 
behavior.  So I'd like to rebuild amd and see if that fixes the problem, 
but I don't want to rebuild world if I can avoid it.

One last thing.  Is there any way to unmount nfs mounts without rebooting 
the box?  I've tried amq -u and umount without success.  The mounts are 
stale and have been that way for almost 24 hours now.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
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From crankbuster at gmail.com  Sat May  9 19:14:12 2009
From: crankbuster at gmail.com (Old Crankbuster)
Date: Sat May  9 19:14:18 2009
Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
In-Reply-To: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090509191359.GH4754@gecko.davescrunch.net>

* Fabian Krook <nevadadirren@gmail.com> [2009-05-09 20:35:43 +0200]:

> When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and
> then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X
> -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be
> terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) Any
> clue?

Nothing but problem here with Radeon.  Move the xorg.conf.new to
/etc/X11/xorg.conf then run startx.

Will start, but on my machine had tearing, and the laptop started
running VERY hot.

I dropped back to 7.1-RELEASE,

That system won't fry my machine.

-- 
Cheers
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From nightrecon at verizon.net  Sat May  9 20:22:45 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Sat May  9 20:22:53 2009
Subject: Help creating bpf0 device (bpf won't do it for me)
References: <d92697010905081508l4d513aa5g86a2724b186b6bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gu4om6$hji$1@ger.gmane.org>

D C wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm in the final stages of setting up a new wireless connection but have
> been having problems getting bpf running.  For some reason, even though
> bpf has been compiled into a new kernel, the system won't automatically
> create a
> bpf0 device.  On boot, the system complains "pcap_open_live: (no devices
> found) /dev/bpf0: No such file or directory".
> 
> The ultimate goal is to have this laptop connect wirelessly to my
> WPA2-protected WAP (already working fine with other boxes) using a static
> IP.
> 
> I've successfully compiled in support for the Atheros-based PCMCIA card,
> edited rc.conf to exclude DHCP and to use wpa_supplicant.conf, and
> eventually compiled in bpf when I started receiving the pcap_open_live
> messages.
> 
> I suspect bpf is needed not for DHCP which is not running, but for some of
> the parameters I added to wpa_supplicant.conf, which is as follows:
> 
[snip]

I confess to not having much knowledge in this area, but am interested
from considering adding a card to my gateway-firewall-router box.

I have two servers here at home, one is the afore mentioned gateway and
the other is an Apache/MySQL/Samba server. Looking at the /dev on both I
noticed that the gateway box has the bpf entries while the web server box
does not. So I believe there needs to be an interface such as a firewall
or DHCP which will consume the bpf in order for the /dev entry to be
created.

I suspect that you may have skipped over the proper creation of your
wireless interface which would have created the bpf when initialized.

You may consider trying to get the interface up and running with wireless
connectivity without WEP/WPA first, then work on adding in the supplicant
afterwards. My belief is when the network interface for the card comes up
you will automagically then have the bpf entries in /dev.

You may also take a look at /etc/devd.conf and /etc/defaults/pccard.conf
for brain-jogging ideas. I do confess to not knowing enough about them.

-Mike




From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 20:26:34 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 20:26:41 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
Message-ID: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local>

I have a problem with amd.  It's not working right, and I don't think I 
can fix it without rebuilding it.

Here's the problems:

# uname -a
FreeBSD utd65257.utdallas.edu 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #12: Wed May 
6 12:12:16 CDT 2009 
root@utd65257.utdallas.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

amd appears to be obtaining the correct information from my system:

# amd -r
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  no logfile defined; using stderr
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  AM-UTILS VERSION INFORMATION:
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Erez 
Zadok
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 Jan-Simon 
Pendry
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 Imperial 
College of Science, Technology & Medicine
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents 
of the University of California.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  am-utils version 6.1.5 (build 
702100).
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Report bugs to 
https://bugzilla.am-utils.org/ or am-utils@am-utils.org.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Configured by David O'Brien 
<obrien@FreeBSD.org> on date 4-December-2007 PST.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Built by 
root@utd65257.utdallas.edu on date Wed May  6 11:44:19 CDT 2009.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  cpu=i386 (little-endian), 
arch=i386, karch=i386.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  full_os=freebsd7.2, 
os=freebsd7, osver=7.2, vendor=undermydesk, distro=The FreeBSD Project.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  domain=utdallas.edu, 
host=utd65257, hostd=utd65257.utdallas.edu.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Map support for: root, passwd, 
union, nis, ndbm, file, exec, error.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  AMFS: nfs, link, nfsx, nfsl, 
host, linkx, program, union, ufs, cdfs,
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:        pcfs, auto, direct, 
toplvl, error, inherit.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  FS: cd9660, nfs, nfs3, nullfs, 
msdosfs, ufs, unionfs.
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  Network: wire="129.110.3.0" 
(netnumber=129.110.3).
May  9 13:38:22 utd65257 amd[22655]/info:  My ip addr is 127.0.0.1

But it can't seem to parse the amd.conf file correctly:

# amd -F /etc/amd.conf
AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global)

However the conf file is correct:

# cat -n /etc/amd.conf
     1	# GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION
     2	[global]
     3	auto_dir	=/.amd_net

I have tried putting spaces on either side of global without success.  I 
have tried using different types of brackets without success.  The global 
line is correct yet amd claims that it is not.

That's not all.  There are some settings for amd_flags in 
/etc/defaults/rc.conf:

 grep "amd_flags=" /etc/defaults/rc.conf
bootparamd_flags=""		# Flags to bootparamd
amd_flags="-a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map /net /etc/amd.map"

If I override those flags by adding amd_flags to /etc/rc.conf, amd will 
not run:

# grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf
amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log"

# /etc/rc.d/amd start
NFS access cache time=60
Starting amd.

[root@utd65257 ~]# /etc/rc.d/amd status
amd is not running.

It runs fine with the default flags:

# grep amd_flags /etc/rc.conf
#amd_flags="-l /var/log/amd.log"

# /etc/rc.d/amd start
NFS access cache time=60
Starting amd.

# /etc/rc.d/amd status
amd is running as pid 23091.

I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although 
I'll do that if I have to.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
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From nightrecon at verizon.net  Sat May  9 20:39:08 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Sat May  9 20:39:15 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local>
Message-ID: <gu4pkv$jdh$1@ger.gmane.org>

Paul Schmehl wrote:

> I have a problem with amd.  It's not working right, and I don't think I
> can fix it without rebuilding it.
[snip]
> 
> I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although
> I'll do that if I have to.
> 
[...]

I think you can just cd to /usr/src/sys/modules/amd and do:

make obj && make depend && make && make install to rebuild the kernel
module by itself.

For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and

make obj && make depend && make && make install

I think.

-Mike




From nightrecon at verizon.net  Sat May  9 20:44:32 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Sat May  9 20:44:38 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local>
	<gu4pkv$jdh$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <gu4pv0$k0d$1@ger.gmane.org>

Michael Powell wrote:

> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> 
>> I have a problem with amd.  It's not working right, and I don't think I
>> can fix it without rebuilding it.
> [snip]
>> 
>> I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well, although
>> I'll do that if I have to.
>> 
> [...]
> 
> For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and
                                                            ^^^^
OOPs - make that: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd           typo on me
 
> make obj && make depend && make && make install
> 
-Mike



From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net  Sat May  9 21:13:48 2009
From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn)
Date: Sat May  9 21:13:55 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905091447070.16971@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
	<6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905091447070.16971@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <200905092313.45418.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>

On Saturday 09 May 2009 15:09:45 Pieter Donche wrote:

> case DHCP server             DHCP client       HOSTNAME env. var.
>
>   1   isc-dhcp30-server       FreeBSD7-i386     not set
>        on FreeBSD-amd64
>   2   isc-dhcp30-server       SuSE Linux 10.3   set
>        on FreeBSD-amd64
>
>   3   some DHCP server        FreeBSD7-i386     set
>        on unkown serverOS
>   4   some DHCP server        SuSE Linux 10.3   set
>         on unkown serverOS

Judging from this, you have a hostname set in /etc/rc.conf on freebsd 7 client 
and/or dhcpd isn't configured to send one as it receives one from the client 
and perhaps you have dynamic DNS configured?

If that's not the case, then you should add some debugging to /sbin/dhclient-
script in the check_hostname function.

-- 
Mel
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 21:22:44 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 21:22:51 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
In-Reply-To: <gu4pkv$jdh$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local>
	<gu4pkv$jdh$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <AF42DE0A88ACDB0CC33010C2@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 9, 2009 3:40:23 PM -0500 Michael Powell <nightrecon@verizon.net> 
wrote:

>
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>> I have a problem with amd.  It's not working right, and I don't think I
>> can fix it without rebuilding it.
> [snip]
>>
>> I'd like to rebuild amd without having to rebuild world as well,
>> although I'll do that if I have to.
>>
> [...]
>
> I think you can just cd to /usr/src/sys/modules/amd and do:
>
> make obj && make depend && make && make install to rebuild the kernel
> module by itself.
>
> For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and
>
> make obj && make depend && make && make install
>
> I think.

Thanks.  That worked (with the correction you posted later), but I still 
have the same problem.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
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From frank at shute.org.uk  Sat May  9 21:37:34 2009
From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute)
Date: Sat May  9 21:37:42 2009
Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
In-Reply-To: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 08:35:43PM +0200, Fabian Krook wrote:
>
> When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and
> then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use X
> -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be
> terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver) Any
> clue?

Check that the ATI Radeon driver supports your card. pciconf(8) and
the manpage for the ATI driver should help.

It sounds like it's working (bare X no longer has the hatch screen)
so it might be worth trying to launch an xterm & wm through ~/.xinitrc
assuming you use startx.

You need the line:

Option "DontZap" "off"

in:

Section "ServerLayout"

of your xorg.conf in order to kill X with ctl-alt-backspace.


Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 

From 240olofsson at telia.com  Sat May  9 21:44:16 2009
From: 240olofsson at telia.com (Roger Olofsson)
Date: Sat May  9 21:44:23 2009
Subject: Tips & Trix: Eclipse on 7.1 STABLE and swt-gtk issue
Message-ID: <4A05E8C2.2010105@telia.com>

Dear mailing list,

I don't know if anyone has noticed or if it's my machine having stale 
ports but it seems that to make eclipse 3.4.1 working on FreeBSD 7.1 
STABLE with diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_4 you need to do the following:

Do _not_ make clean until you have made:
  cp 
/usr/ports/java/eclipse/work/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.freebsd.x86/gtk/library/libswt* 
/usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386/client/

It seems like make install builds the swt-gtk:s but that the .jar 
somehow 'misses' adding them in.

/Roger
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Sat May  9 21:49:38 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Sat May  9 21:49:45 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

"Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?
...
> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
> >   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
> >
> > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
> > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
> > stop the spew of messages.)
> >
> > What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
> > Something else?
>
> Output of "vmstat -i"?

$ vmstat -i
interrupt                          total       rate
irq0: clk                      497386851       1004
irq1: atkbd0                        2491          0
irq3: xl0                           2030          0
irq6: fdc0                            11          0
irq7: ppbus0 ppc0                      1          0
irq8: rtc                       63654324        128
irq9: uhci0+                      166216          0
irq14: ata0                       369620          0
irq15: ata1                          691          0
Total                          561582235       1133
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 21:52:15 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 21:52:24 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
In-Reply-To: <gu4pv0$k0d$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <4CF4FA213774B69765C455FB@Macintosh-2.local>
	<gu4pkv$jdh$1@ger.gmane.org> <gu4pv0$k0d$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <59F581887B7A3CF91A4510E9@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 9, 2009 3:45:43 PM -0500 Michael Powell <nightrecon@verizon.net> 
wrote:
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>> For the userland side it would be cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd and
>                                                             ^^^^
> OOPs - make that: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/amd           typo on me
>
>> make obj && make depend && make && make install
>>

There are two related files in /boot/kernel:

# ls -lsa /boot/kernel/amd.ko*
 24 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  24414 May  9 16:37 /boot/kernel/amd.ko
 78 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  79484 May  6 12:36 
/boot/kernel/amd.ko.symbols

The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last Wednesday. 
What creates that file?  And how do I update it?  Could it be the cause of 
the problem?

All the other related files were updated today.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
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From nevadadirren at gmail.com  Sat May  9 21:53:35 2009
From: nevadadirren at gmail.com (Fabian Krook)
Date: Sat May  9 21:53:43 2009
Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
In-Reply-To: <20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
Message-ID: <50f801fe0905091453yf2147e4v6343d134d9c34306@mail.gmail.com>

I see, well i have done that in xorg.conf.new file (snice it didn't create
any xorg.conf) the ctrl + alt + backspace
doesn't seems to work even with X -config xorg.conf.new.



2009/5/9 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>

>  On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 08:35:43PM +0200, Fabian Krook wrote:
> >
> > When i try to do ex X -configure it tell me that there are no Driver and
> > then create xorg.conf.new which have the driver. But when i tries to use
> X
> > -config xorg.conf.new it will just go into a blank screen and can only be
> > terminated through kill command. (Have installed the ATI radeon Driver)
> Any
> > clue?
>
> Check that the ATI Radeon driver supports your card. pciconf(8) and
> the manpage for the ATI driver should help.
>
> It sounds like it's working (bare X no longer has the hatch screen)
> so it might be worth trying to launch an xterm & wm through ~/.xinitrc
> assuming you use startx.
>
> You need the line:
>
> Option "DontZap" "off"
>
> in:
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>
> of your xorg.conf in order to kill X with ctl-alt-backspace.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>
>  Frank
>
>
>  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
>
>
From talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr  Sat May  9 22:54:32 2009
From: talon at lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel Talon)
Date: Sat May  9 22:54:39 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
Message-ID: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr>

Paul Schmehl wrote:
> The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last
> Wednesday.  What creates that file?  And how do I update it?  Could it
> be the cause of the problem?

The amd.ko kernel module has nothing to do with the automounter. It is a
device driver for some hardware (man 4 amd).

As for your config file, it seems fine at first sight, but perhaps there
are some "invisible" characters in it causing problems. The syntax is
explained in 
man amd.conf


-- 

Michel TALON

From dan at langille.org  Sat May  9 23:10:10 2009
From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille)
Date: Sat May  9 23:10:18 2009
Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-05-09
Message-ID: <20090509231004.13EC550A7B@nyi.unixathome.org>

The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical 
examples and how-to guides.  This message is posted weekly
to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people
know what's available on the website.  Before you post a question
here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list 
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and/or The FreeBSD Diary <http://www.freebsddiary.org/>. 

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     The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors 
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-- 
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BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference

From darryl at osborne-ind.com  Sat May  9 23:18:10 2009
From: darryl at osborne-ind.com (Darryl Hoar)
Date: Sat May  9 23:18:31 2009
Subject: Openvpn question
Message-ID: <000001c9d0a0$8ecfd620$ac6f8260$@com>

Installed Openvpn on my freebsd server.  Had to revoke a certificate
already.  The Openvpn howto guide says to add crl-verify crl.pem to the
server config script.  Is that the openvpn server config script or the
openssl config script (I self generate certificates) ?

Been googling and searching but can't find a definitive answer.

Thanks and I know this is not strictly a Freebsd question.



From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Sat May  9 23:49:57 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Sat May  9 23:50:05 2009
Subject: Can I rebuild amd without rebuilding world?
In-Reply-To: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
References: <20090509225428.GA18943@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <88A443E2BCA8F51F7DC9DD55@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 9, 2009 5:54:28 PM -0500 Michel Talon <talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr> 
wrote:

>
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>> The amd.ko.symbols file was created when I upgraded to 7.2 last
>> Wednesday.  What creates that file?  And how do I update it?  Could it
>> be the cause of the problem?
>
> The amd.ko kernel module has nothing to do with the automounter. It is a
> device driver for some hardware (man 4 amd).
>
> As for your config file, it seems fine at first sight, but perhaps there
> are some "invisible" characters in it causing problems. The syntax is
> explained in
> man amd.conf
>

Thanks.  I moved the amd.conf file to amd.conf.bak and created a new one. 
Amd still thinks there's a problem:

# amd -F /etc/amd.conf
AMDCONF: syntax error on line 2 (section global)

# cat /etc/amd.conf
# GLOBAL OPTIONS SECTION
[global]

I think I'm going to csup sources again and rebuild world.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
WARNING: Check the headers before replying

From socketss at hotmail.com  Sun May 10 01:50:18 2009
From: socketss at hotmail.com (firak jotawski)
Date: Sun May 10 01:50:25 2009
Subject: 7.2-release and xorg
Message-ID: <SNT118-W14B8740FB1921762D23CB6CA620@phx.gbl>


hi sirs,

apologized me for disturbing the list but i really have problem, X -config /root/xorg.conf.new produce a black screen and die.

i attached my machine uname -a, my xorg packages installed, X -configure output and its' configuration file.

any helps anf hints would highly appreciated.

with best regards,
psr

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From apseudoutopia at gmail.com  Sun May 10 04:08:43 2009
From: apseudoutopia at gmail.com (APseudoUtopia)
Date: Sun May 10 04:08:52 2009
Subject: Upgrading to New Kernel - Hung on Boot
Message-ID: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I have a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. I'm trying to upgrade to 7.2,
specifically the RELENG_7_2 tag.

I synced my sources via csup, built world, built kernel, and installed
kernel. All went well. I rebooted into single user mode, and the
kernel hung. The loader menu came up, but when the kernel starts
loading it hangs.

I recovered it by dropping to a loader prompt and loading kernel.old.
It booted up fine.

I have attached the kernel config I used to buildkernel. I'm guessing
it has something to do with this.

In case it's relevant, the system is a dual-core Intel Xeon, with
HyperThreading disabled.

Thanks.
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#
# Kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#

cpu		I686_CPU
ident		KERN

options 	SCHED_ULE		# ULE scheduler
options 	PREEMPTION		# Enable kernel thread preemption
options 	INET			# InterNETworking
options 	FFS			# Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	SOFTUPDATES		# Enable FFS soft updates support
#options 	UFS_ACL			# Support for access control lists
#options 	UFS_DIRHASH		# Improve performance on big directories
options 	UFS_GJOURNAL		# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling
#options 	MD_ROOT			# MD is a potential root device
options 	PROCFS			# Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options 	PSEUDOFS		# Pseudo-filesystem framework
options 	GEOM_PART_GPT		# GUID Partition Tables.
options 	GEOM_LABEL		# Provides labelization
options 	COMPAT_43TTY		# BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=100		# Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
#options 	KTRACE			# ktrace(1) support
#options 	STACK			# stack(9) support
options 	SYSVSHM			# SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			# SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			# SYSV-style semaphores
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options 	ADAPTIVE_GIANT		# Giant mutex is adaptive.
options 	STOP_NMI		# Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI
#options 	AUDIT			# Security event auditing
#options 	KDTRACE_HOOKS		# Kernel DTrace hooks

# SMP
options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device		apic			# I/O APIC
options		IPI_PREEMPTION		# Preempt threads running on other CPUs if needed

# Networking
options		DEVICE_POLLING
options		HZ=1000
device		em			# Intel PRO/1000 Gigabit Ethernet Family
device		loop			# Network loopback
device		ether			# Ethernet support
device		tun			# Packet tunnel.
device		bpf			# Berkeley packet filter
device		pf			# OpenBSD's Packet Filter
device		pflog
options		ALTQ
options		ALTQ_RED		# Random Early Detection
options		ALTQ_RIO		# RED In/Out
options		ALTQ_PRIQ		# Priority Queueing
options		ALTQ_NOPCC		# Required for SMP
options		ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA
options		ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP

# Misc
device		pci			# PCI Bus Support
options		PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=-1	# Wait indefinitely after kernel panic

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		# Static device numbering

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
#device		atkbdc			# AT keyboard controller
#device		atkbd			# AT keyboard
#device		kbdmux			# keyboard multiplexer
#device		splash			# Splash screen and screen saver support

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
#device		sc

# Pseudo devices.
device		random			# Entropy device
device		pty			# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Sun May 10 06:15:17 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Sun May 10 06:15:25 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <200905092313.45418.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
	<6.0.0.22.2.20090508064144.026c0fe0@mail.computinginnovations.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905091447070.16971@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
	<200905092313.45418.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905100747320.96543@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

On Sat, 9 May 2009, Mel Flynn wrote:

> On Saturday 09 May 2009 15:09:45 Pieter Donche wrote:
>
>> case DHCP server             DHCP client       HOSTNAME env. var.
>>
>>   1   isc-dhcp30-server       FreeBSD7-i386     not set
>>        on FreeBSD-amd64
>>   2   isc-dhcp30-server       SuSE Linux 10.3   set
>>        on FreeBSD-amd64
>>
>>   3   some DHCP server        FreeBSD7-i386     set
>>        on unkown serverOS
>>   4   some DHCP server        SuSE Linux 10.3   set
>>         on unkown serverOS
>
> Judging from this, you have a hostname set in /etc/rc.conf on freebsd 7 client
> and/or dhcpd isn't configured to send one as it receives one from the client
> and perhaps you have dynamic DNS configured?

There is no hostname= declaration in /etc/rc.conf in that FreeBSD7 dhcp client.

My dhcpd.conf contains mostly statically defined addresses (over a 100)
e.g. 
host somehostname { hardware ethernet aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff; fixed-address AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD; }
and one set of 6 dynamically assigned addresses.

We want regular users to always get the same IP address based on the MAC
address of their system, the pool of 6 is for visitors for one or a few
days that we do allow not to register their MAC address.

The freebsd7 client is one of the 100+ statically assigned ones, but
I might have done a try for the dynamic assignment with this PC (by taking
it temporarily out of /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf, restart dhcpd, try, 
then put it back in, restart dhcpd.

In fact in /var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf I see I do have an entry
lease AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD {
   starts 4 2009/05/07 12:49:13;
   ends 4 2009/05/07 13:19:16;
   tstp 4 2009/05/07 13:19:16;
   binding state free;
   hardware ethernet aa.bb.cc.dd.ee.ff;
   uid "\001\000\013\333S>\025";
}
AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD being one of the pool of 6 and the ethernet adddress that
of the freebsd client.

I see that's "free'd" already (max lease time is 12 hours) and I tried back 
with that entry again as a statically defined one. Or does this dhcpd.lease 
entry still have an impact ???

The man of dhcpd.leases says "In  order to prevent the lease database 
from growing without bound, the file is rewritten from time to time."
Can one do such a "rewrite" oneself, how ? would that help?

On the other hand the AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD IP address does have a hostname
specified in the DNS server (somewhere in our campus) (and that DNS
server can be queried from the freebsd client via nslookup or host 
command and it returns the correct hostname). So even in dynamic assignment, 
shouldn't HOSTNAME been set with that hostname from DNS?

>
> If that's not the case, then you should add some debugging to /sbin/dhclient-
> script in the check_hostname function.
>
> -- 
> Mel
>
From kenneth.hatteland at kleppnett.no  Sun May 10 07:51:39 2009
From: kenneth.hatteland at kleppnett.no (kenneth hatteland)
Date: Sun May 10 07:51:46 2009
Subject: libcups missing
Message-ID: <4A06877D.1030807@kleppnett.no>

First of all I`d like to say thank you for putting up with all my 
amateur questions. I hope I can be of use here on the list some day...:)

I had CUPS working nicely on an networked HP cp1515n from all machines 
in the house. But after upgrading FreeBSD and ports to 7.2 my FreeBSD 
machines states this problem when reaching login : /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 
: shared object "libcups.so.2" not found, required by "cupsd"

I guess this has something either to do with cups being recently 
upgraded, or I have negelcted inspecting a file when doing mergemaster 
during upgrade to 7.2

Googling and reading the handbook etc haven`t enlightened me so far....

Anyone have an idea or a know a online source that can help ?

While I am bugging you anyway, I have a problem getting my permissions 
for use of my Packard Bell scanner with xscan not as root to stick when 
I rebbot. It all works nicely when I chmod every time, but where and how 
to make this stick ?

Blessed be

kenneth, Norway
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Sun May 10 07:55:45 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Sun May 10 07:55:52 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <4A068874.8030408@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Pieter Donche wrote:
> FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server.
> It hands out an IP address, OK,
> but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why?
> 
> (A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried 
> from a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname 
> associated with the IP-address)

Hostname is not one of the parameters usually requested from a DHCP server
by a Unix machine.  In fact, it's normally the other way round: the client
tells the DHCP server what it's hostname is and the DHCP server can then
inject an A record into the DNS dynamically.

However it is possible to operate in the way you want.  To tell the dhcp
server to look up names from the DNS based on the address supplied to a
host, search for the description of the 'get-lease-hostnames' flag in
the dhcpd.conf(5) man page.

To tell dhcp clients to fetch their hostname from DHCP, you need to add it
to a 'request' or 'require' block in dhclient.conf -- see dhclient.conf(5).

It's been a long time since I ran a setup anything like that, so I cannot
recall if that was all that was required, or if it was also necessary to
write a small dhclient-script(8) to actually set the hostname. 

Another alternative is to use a dhclient-script to take the IP number
allocated by the DHCP server, look up the corresponding address and then
set that as the hostname.

The bash HOSTNAME environment variable will be set from the output of the
hostname(1) command, which is usually set from the hostname variable in
/etc/rc.conf or from the output of '/bin/kenv dhcp.host-name' if that 
is set. Otherwise it uses a default hostname of 'amnesiac'. 

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
                                                  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
                                                  Kent, CT11 9PW

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From rsmith at xs4all.nl  Sun May 10 08:31:37 2009
From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith)
Date: Sun May 10 08:31:45 2009
Subject: libcups missing
In-Reply-To: <4A06877D.1030807@kleppnett.no>
References: <4A06877D.1030807@kleppnett.no>
Message-ID: <20090510083129.GA4295@slackbox.xs4all.nl>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:51:25AM +0200, kenneth hatteland wrote:
> First of all I`d like to say thank you for putting up with all my 
> amateur questions. I hope I can be of use here on the list some day...:)
> 
> I had CUPS working nicely on an networked HP cp1515n from all machines 
> in the house. But after upgrading FreeBSD and ports to 7.2 my FreeBSD 
> machines states this problem when reaching login : /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 
> : shared object "libcups.so.2" not found, required by "cupsd"
> 
> I guess this has something either to do with cups being recently 
> upgraded, or I have negelcted inspecting a file when doing mergemaster 
> during upgrade to 7.2

I had the same problem when upgrading recently. Rebuilding the
cups-client port fixed it. If you have portmaster installed you can do:

portmaster -B -d cups-client

If not, go to /usr/ports/print/cups-client and run 'make deinstall' and
'make install clean' as root.

> While I am bugging you anyway, I have a problem getting my permissions 
> for use of my Packard Bell scanner with xscan not as root to stick when 
> I rebbot. It all works nicely when I chmod every time, but where and how 
> to make this stick ?

You need to set that in /etc/devfs.rules, and activate the ruleset in
/etc/rc.conf. The devfs.rules(5) manual pages explains it. Scanners are
even used as an example. :-) If you wish to give unrestricted access,
change the mode to 0666.

Roland
-- 
R.F.Smith                                   http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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From sonicy at otenet.gr  Sun May 10 08:32:22 2009
From: sonicy at otenet.gr (Manolis Kiagias)
Date: Sun May 10 08:32:58 2009
Subject: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
In-Reply-To: <50f801fe0905091453yf2147e4v6343d134d9c34306@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50f801fe0905091135k8673300jb785bafeb132c554@mail.gmail.com>	<20090509213723.GA83617@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
	<50f801fe0905091453yf2147e4v6343d134d9c34306@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A069106.60609@otenet.gr>

Fabian Krook wrote:
> I see, well i have done that in xorg.conf.new file (snice it didn't create
> any xorg.conf) the ctrl + alt + backspace
> doesn't seems to work even with X -config xorg.conf.new.
>
>
>
> 2009/5/9 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>
>
>   
There are several changes in Xorg 7.4. Please read the updated handbook 
section:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

particularly section 5.4.2
From itavy at itavy.com  Sun May 10 08:35:13 2009
From: itavy at itavy.com (Octavian Ionescu)
Date: Sun May 10 08:35:20 2009
Subject: Openvpn question
In-Reply-To: <000001c9d0a0$8ecfd620$ac6f8260$@com>
References: <000001c9d0a0$8ecfd620$ac6f8260$@com>
Message-ID: <4A068B4E.9050605@itavy.com>

Darryl Hoar wrote:
> Installed Openvpn on my freebsd server.  Had to revoke a certificate
> already.  The Openvpn howto guide says to add crl-verify crl.pem to the
> server config script.  Is that the openvpn server config script or the
> openssl config script (I self generate certificates) ?
> 
> Been googling and searching but can't find a definitive answer.
> 
> Thanks and I know this is not strictly a Freebsd question.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"


read this,

http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/howto.html#revoke

you have to revoke the certificate(s) using the scripts and adding 
"crl-verify crl.pem" to the server configuration file.

first time when you add that line you have to restart the openvpn 
daemon, afterthat it will check every time the crl.pem to see if the 
certificate is revoked or not.

-- 
Best regards,
Octavian
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Sun May 10 09:32:25 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Sun May 10 09:32:31 2009
Subject: Tips & Trix: Eclipse on 7.1 STABLE and swt-gtk issue
In-Reply-To: <4A05E8C2.2010105@telia.com>
References: <4A05E8C2.2010105@telia.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905100232r6f45a3ceufad2eedf1891ce9f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> wrote:
[snip]
> Do _not_ make clean until you have made:
> ?cp
> /usr/ports/java/eclipse/work/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.freebsd.x86/gtk/library/libswt*
> /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386/client/
>
> It seems like make install builds the swt-gtk:s but that the .jar somehow
> 'misses' adding them in.
>

That should automatically happen when building the port.  If your tree
is current, try contacting the port maintainer:

   cd /usr/ports/java/eclipse; make maintainer

If that fails, submit a PR:

   http://freebsd.org/send-pr.html

Regards,

-- 
Glen Barber
From ivan at ivangelion.tw  Sun May 10 09:39:18 2009
From: ivan at ivangelion.tw (Chun-fan Ivan Liao)
Date: Sun May 10 09:39:27 2009
Subject: 4 apcupsd problems using USB to connect on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE
Message-ID: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com>

OS version: FreeBSD 7.2 RELEASE
apcupsd version: 3.14.5
UPS model: APC-MGE Back-UPS RS 1000VA (BR1000TW)
UPS cable type: usb

3 important lines in /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf:
---------
UPSCABLE usb
UPSTYPE usb
DEVICE
---------
Other lines are default.


Problem Description:
1.
The APC box cannot be detected when connected to the FreeBSD system on
system boot. (apcupsd_enable="YES" is set in /etc/rc.conf )

The associated messages in /var/log/messages:
---------
May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in
bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed
USB trouble shooting information, please see
<http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd error shutdown completed
---------

2.
Continuing 1, if I unplug the connecting USB then re-plug it to the
same port, the USB cannot be identified.

The associated message in /var/log/messages:
---------
May 10 16:36:17 aura-cosmetics kernel: uhub0: device problem
(TIMEOUT), disabling port 3
---------

3.
Contiuning 2, changing the port to plug the USB will do, and
/var/log/messages reads:
---------
May 10 16:41:07 aura-cosmetics root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x051d
product 0x0002 bus uhub1
May 10 16:41:08 aura-cosmetics kernel: ugen0: <American Power
Conversion Back-UPS RS 1000 FW:7.g9a.D USB FW:g9a, class 0/0, rev
1.10/1.06, addr 2> on uhub1
---------

But when starting the apcupsd now using [apcupsd start], there is no
"freebsd startup succeeded" message appearing in /var/log/messages.

However using [ps ax| grep apcupsd], there is the following associated
procedure in the standard output:
---------
1264? ??? Ss???? 0:00.01 apcupsd start
---------

4.
The last problem continuing 3, if stopping the apcupsd now using
[apcupsd stop], the following error messages occur in
/var/log/messages:
---------
May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1270]: Valid lock file for
pid=1264, but not ours pid=1270
May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in
bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed
USB trouble shooting information, please see
<http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: Valid lock file for
pid=1264, but not ours pid=1271
May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd error shutdown completed
---------

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
From gesbbb at yahoo.com  Sun May 10 11:02:55 2009
From: gesbbb at yahoo.com (Jerry)
Date: Sun May 10 11:03:02 2009
Subject: Perl upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20090509082129.R56383@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
References: <4A05637C.1040005@webrz.net>
	<20090509064241.W51488@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
	<4A058193.6040703@webrz.net>
	<20090509082129.R56383@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz>
Message-ID: <20090510070241.40eafc8d@scorpio>

On Sat, 9 May 2009 08:31:45 -0500 (CDT)
Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>
>> Lars Eighner wrote:
>>> On Sat, 9 May 2009, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>>> 
>>> You must be new around here.
>> Yes, I am L-)
>>> The process described in UPDATING for upgrading to Perl 5.10 is
>>> relatively painless compared to previous perl upgrades.  So much
>>> stuff depends upon perl that:
>> [snip]
>>
>> Do you recommend having Perl updated or should I stay with 5.8?
>
>Unless you know there is something in 5.10 that you need now, I
>recommend waiting at least a little bit.  Let the
>gotta-have-the-newest-shiny folks take the sharp edges off.  Study the
>dependencies list from pkg_info and dependencies of any big thing you
>plan to install.  If you are going to (re-)build something big or a
>lot of little things anyway, it may make sense to upgrade perl just
>before you do that so that rebuilding the ports that depend on perl
>will kill two birds with one stone.  If such an opportunity doesn't
>arise, maybe do it anyway about the time of the first frost ---
>snuggle up in front of the blazing compiler and sip hot chocolate.

Perl-5.10 was released to the public over a year ago. Another year
transpired before it was released into the ports system. There was an
immediate problem that was corrected when the maintainer switched to
'bison' from 'YACC'. Other than that, it has performed flawlessly as
far as I can tell.

-- 
Jerry
gesbbb@yahoo.com

The Martian Canals were clearly the Martian's last ditch effort!
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From roberthuff at rcn.com  Sun May 10 11:19:00 2009
From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff)
Date: Sun May 10 11:19:07 2009
Subject: libcups missing
In-Reply-To: <20090510083129.GA4295@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
References: <4A06877D.1030807@kleppnett.no>
	<20090510083129.GA4295@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <18950.47087.394536.369834@jerusalem.litteratus.org>


Roland Smith writes:

>  On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:51:25AM +0200, kenneth hatteland wrote:
>  > First of all I`d like to say thank you for putting up with all my 
>  > amateur questions. I hope I can be of use here on the list some day...:)
>  > 
>  > I had CUPS working nicely on an networked HP cp1515n from all machines 
>  > in the house. But after upgrading FreeBSD and ports to 7.2 my FreeBSD 
>  > machines states this problem when reaching login : /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 
>  > : shared object "libcups.so.2" not found, required by "cupsd"
>  > 
>  > I guess this has something either to do with cups being recently 
>  > upgraded, or I have negelcted inspecting a file when doing mergemaster 
>  > during upgrade to 7.2
>  
>  I had the same problem when upgrading recently. Rebuilding the
>  cups-client port fixed it. If you have portmaster installed you can do:
>  
>  portmaster -B -d cups-client
>  
>  If not, go to /usr/ports/print/cups-client and run 'make
>  deinstall' and 'make install clean' as root.

	I ended up having to de-install both -client and -base, then
install -base.
	(Mergemaster should have nothing to do with this, as it only
affects files porvided by FreeBSD proper.)


				Robert Huff


From onemda at gmail.com  Sun May 10 11:53:01 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sun May 10 11:53:09 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/9/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> "Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
>> > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?
> ...
>> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
>> >   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
>> >
>> > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
>> > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
>> > stop the spew of messages.)
>> >
>> > What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
>> > Something else?
>>
>> Output of "vmstat -i"?
>
> $ vmstat -i
> interrupt                          total       rate
> irq0: clk                      497386851       1004
> irq1: atkbd0                        2491          0
> irq3: xl0                           2030          0
> irq6: fdc0                            11          0
> irq7: ppbus0 ppc0                      1          0
> irq8: rtc                       63654324        128
> irq9: uhci0+                      166216          0

uhci0 is doing strange things, what usb device are connected?

It could be bad configuration, bug or hardware problem.

> irq14: ata0                       369620          0
> irq15: ata1                          691          0
> Total                          561582235       1133
>


-- 
Paul
From bsam at ipt.ru  Sun May 10 12:06:00 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Sun May 10 12:06:09 2009
Subject: Upgrading to New Kernel - Hung on Boot
In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com>
	(apseudoutopia@gmail.com's message of "Sun\,
	10 May 2009 00\:08\:42 -0400")
References: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24737181@bb.ipt.ru>

On Sun, 10 May 2009 00:08:42 -0400 APseudoUtopia wrote:

> I have a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. I'm trying to upgrade to 7.2,
> specifically the RELENG_7_2 tag.

> I synced my sources via csup, built world, built kernel, and installed
> kernel. All went well. I rebooted into single user mode, and the
> kernel hung. The loader menu came up, but when the kernel starts
> loading it hangs.

> I recovered it by dropping to a loader prompt and loading kernel.old.
> It booted up fine.

> I have attached the kernel config I used to buildkernel. I'm guessing
> it has something to do with this.

> In case it's relevant, the system is a dual-core Intel Xeon, with
> HyperThreading disabled.

If you have a custom kernel and get any problems than the first thing to
do is to build GENERIC kernel and see if the problem still exists. BTW,
don't forget to copy your /boot/kernel.old directory to
/boot/kernel.good, else it will be deletted when installing a new
kernel.


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From tajudd at gmail.com  Sun May 10 12:33:13 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Sun May 10 12:33:20 2009
Subject: Upgrading to New Kernel - Hung on Boot
In-Reply-To: <24737181@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com> 
	<24737181@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905100532v3799d40el2b115d71e8c9a562@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> wrote:

> On Sun, 10 May 2009 00:08:42 -0400 APseudoUtopia wrote:
>
> > I have a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. I'm trying to upgrade to 7.2,
> > specifically the RELENG_7_2 tag.
>
> > I synced my sources via csup, built world, built kernel, and installed
> > kernel. All went well. I rebooted into single user mode, and the
> > kernel hung. The loader menu came up, but when the kernel starts
> > loading it hangs.
>
> > I recovered it by dropping to a loader prompt and loading kernel.old.
> > It booted up fine.
>
> > I have attached the kernel config I used to buildkernel. I'm guessing
> > it has something to do with this.
>
> > In case it's relevant, the system is a dual-core Intel Xeon, with
> > HyperThreading disabled.
>
> If you have a custom kernel and get any problems than the first thing to
> do is to build GENERIC kernel and see if the problem still exists. BTW,
> don't forget to copy your /boot/kernel.old directory to
> /boot/kernel.good, else it will be deletted when installing a new
> kernel.
>
>
> WBR
>

Among the same lines, when it's convenient, when there's time, I normally
compile an updated GENERIC and store it to /boot/kernel.GENERIC

My normal custom kernel enables IPSEC and PF (among others), and if there's
time i throw a GENERIC buildkernel under the above to keep as good record.
:)

Just $.02
From itetcu at FreeBSD.org  Sun May 10 12:40:33 2009
From: itetcu at FreeBSD.org (Ion-Mihai Tetcu)
Date: Sun May 10 12:40:40 2009
Subject: 4 apcupsd problems using USB to connect on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE
In-Reply-To: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090510152310.2ecc3a47@it.buh.tecnik93.com>

On Sun, 10 May 2009 17:08:03 +0800
Chun-fan Ivan Liao <ivan@ivangelion.tw> wrote:

> OS version: FreeBSD 7.2 RELEASE
> apcupsd version: 3.14.5
> UPS model: APC-MGE Back-UPS RS 1000VA (BR1000TW)
> UPS cable type: usb
> 
> 3 important lines in /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf:
> ---------
> UPSCABLE usb
> UPSTYPE usb
> DEVICE
> ---------
> Other lines are default.
> 
> 
> Problem Description:
> 1.
> The APC box cannot be detected when connected to the FreeBSD system on
> system boot. (apcupsd_enable="YES" is set in /etc/rc.conf )
> 
> The associated messages in /var/log/messages:
> ---------
> May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in
> bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed
> USB trouble shooting information, please see
> <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
> May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd error shutdown
> completed ---------

Please post your /var/run/dmesg.boot after a roobot.
 
> 2.
> Continuing 1, if I unplug the connecting USB then re-plug it to the
> same port, the USB cannot be identified.
> 
> The associated message in /var/log/messages:
> ---------
> May 10 16:36:17 aura-cosmetics kernel: uhub0: device problem
> (TIMEOUT), disabling port 3
> ---------

I'd say we hava a problem here.

I'd be curios to know if you see the same thing with a kernel w/o usb
in it and the following klds loaded: usb.ko, ugen.ko, umass.ko



-- 
IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user"
  "Intellectual Property" is   nowhere near as valuable   as "Intellect"
FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B
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From apseudoutopia at gmail.com  Sun May 10 13:48:06 2009
From: apseudoutopia at gmail.com (APseudoUtopia)
Date: Sun May 10 13:48:13 2009
Subject: Upgrading to New Kernel - Hung on Boot
In-Reply-To: <24737181@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com>
	<24737181@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <27ade5280905100648p22b8ff31w9e9dfd6aa370b3a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> wrote:
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 00:08:42 -0400 APseudoUtopia wrote:
>
>> I have a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. I'm trying to upgrade to 7.2,
>> specifically the RELENG_7_2 tag.
>
>> I synced my sources via csup, built world, built kernel, and installed
>> kernel. All went well. I rebooted into single user mode, and the
>> kernel hung. The loader menu came up, but when the kernel starts
>> loading it hangs.
>
>> I recovered it by dropping to a loader prompt and loading kernel.old.
>> It booted up fine.
>
>> I have attached the kernel config I used to buildkernel. I'm guessing
>> it has something to do with this.
>
>> In case it's relevant, the system is a dual-core Intel Xeon, with
>> HyperThreading disabled.
>
> If you have a custom kernel and get any problems than the first thing to
> do is to build GENERIC kernel and see if the problem still exists. BTW,
> don't forget to copy your /boot/kernel.old directory to
> /boot/kernel.good, else it will be deletted when installing a new
> kernel.
>
>

Ah, yes, sorry, I forgot to mention that I have GENERIC installed to
/boot/GENERIC, and it does load perfectly fine without any problems.
It's just the new kernel that hangs on boot.
From bsam at ipt.ru  Sun May 10 13:56:46 2009
From: bsam at ipt.ru (Boris Samorodov)
Date: Sun May 10 13:56:53 2009
Subject: Upgrading to New Kernel - Hung on Boot
In-Reply-To: <27ade5280905100648p22b8ff31w9e9dfd6aa370b3a0@mail.gmail.com>
	(apseudoutopia@gmail.com's message of "Sun\,
	10 May 2009 09\:48\:04 -0400")
References: <27ade5280905092108t19375fn63c63c10c72fefa8@mail.gmail.com>
	<24737181@bb.ipt.ru>
	<27ade5280905100648p22b8ff31w9e9dfd6aa370b3a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58650531@bb.ipt.ru>

On Sun, 10 May 2009 09:48:04 -0400 APseudoUtopia wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 May 2009 00:08:42 -0400 APseudoUtopia wrote:
> >
> >> I have a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. I'm trying to upgrade to 7.2,
> >> specifically the RELENG_7_2 tag.
> >
> >> I synced my sources via csup, built world, built kernel, and installed
> >> kernel. All went well. I rebooted into single user mode, and the
> >> kernel hung. The loader menu came up, but when the kernel starts
> >> loading it hangs.
> >
> >> I recovered it by dropping to a loader prompt and loading kernel.old.
> >> It booted up fine.
> >
> >> I have attached the kernel config I used to buildkernel. I'm guessing
> >> it has something to do with this.
> >
> >> In case it's relevant, the system is a dual-core Intel Xeon, with
> >> HyperThreading disabled.
> >
> > If you have a custom kernel and get any problems than the first thing to
> > do is to build GENERIC kernel and see if the problem still exists. BTW,
> > don't forget to copy your /boot/kernel.old directory to
> > /boot/kernel.good, else it will be deletted when installing a new
> > kernel.

> Ah, yes, sorry, I forgot to mention that I have GENERIC installed to
> /boot/GENERIC, and it does load perfectly fine without any problems.
> It's just the new kernel that hangs on boot.

Is it a GENERIC kernel from the new FreeBSD version?


WBR
-- 
Boris Samorodov (bsam)
Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP
FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve
From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Sun May 10 14:00:36 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Sun May 10 14:00:44 2009
Subject: Building gimp without gvfs
Message-ID: <200905101500.26477.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>


Each time gimp-app gets upgraded I lose the ability to open URI's 
with "Open location" or by dragging images from firefox.

Apparently this is because I need to explicitly pass --without-gvfs to 
configure [1] [2]. I was rather surprised that I needed to do this 
since I have the gvfs port installed but it did the trick for me. What 
I do is to edit the Makefile and add --without-gvfs to the 
CONFIGURE_ARGS lines. The snag is that I invariably forget about this 
by the next time the port gets upgraded and I have to sort the problem 
out again. What could I add to /etc/make.conf to have this option added 
to CONFIGURE_ARGS automatically?

[1] http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/gimp/index.html
[2] http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html

-- 
Mike Clarke
From jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk  Sun May 10 14:05:14 2009
From: jmc-freebsd2 at milibyte.co.uk (Mike Clarke)
Date: Sun May 10 14:05:21 2009
Subject: Problems after upgrading to xorg-7.4_1
In-Reply-To: <69401662@bb.ipt.ru>
References: <200905072343.46922.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
	<69401662@bb.ipt.ru>
Message-ID: <200905101435.17396.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>

On Friday 08 May 2009, Boris Samorodov wrote:

> New xorg uses hal by default.
>
> You have two options: either use hal [1] (i.e. start dbus and hald
> while booting) or not use it (then you should tweak xorg.conf).
> Either way please read recent freebsd-x11@ mail list archieves to
> understand what's up and what to do.

> [1]  
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2009-April/008185.html


Thanks for the link. I was aware that xorg now uses hal but I didn't 
realise I would need to make any configuration adjustments to hal. 
Adding the keyboard details 
to /usr/local/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi as 
described in the link fixed the problem. I was also able to get the 
keyboard working correctly without hal and dbus by adding 
Option "AllowEmptyInput" "off" to xorg.conf. Since hal doesn't appear 
to usefully do anything else for me I've gone for the AllowEmptyInput 
option.

I still need to fix my problem with the nv and nvidia drivers but I've 
discovered that things work OK with the vesa driver so I'll use that 
for now.

-- 
Mike Clarke
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From rsmith at xs4all.nl  Sun May 10 16:02:37 2009
From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith)
Date: Sun May 10 16:02:45 2009
Subject: Building gimp without gvfs
In-Reply-To: <200905101500.26477.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
References: <200905101500.26477.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090510160234.GA16039@slackbox.xs4all.nl>

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From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Sun May 10 17:12:47 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Sun May 10 17:13:00 2009
Subject: FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot DVD does not boot
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905102244580.8730@localhost>

Hi all:

The FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot DVD does not boot up.

I'm on a normal Celeron 1.6GHz Presario C300TU laptop
with 160GB HDD and 2GB DDR2 RAM.

The system just whirrs up the DVD drive, the LEDs blink for a few
moments and then the installed FreeBSD 7.1 screen is presented.

I tested the DVD drive by putting in the old FreeBSD 7.1 DVD and
it works fine.

As an additional investigation i wrote another DVD with -J -R
flags (unnecessary though in my opinion) and even this DVD does
not get booted up.

The first thing i did was do a md5sum on the downloaded .ISO
image and that is fine.

Has anybody tried FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 DVD and could get it
to boot ? Is there something that i'm missing here ? 
Any pointers are appreciated.


thanks
Saifi.
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Sun May 10 17:13:42 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Sun May 10 17:13:50 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

"Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/9/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> > "Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> >> > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?
> > ...
> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR> error=4<ABORTED>
> >> >   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
> >> >
> >> > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
> >> > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
> >> > stop the spew of messages.)
> >> >
> >> > What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
> >> > Something else?
> >>
> >> Output of "vmstat -i"?
> >
> > $ vmstat -i
> > interrupt                          total       rate
> > irq0: clk                      497386851       1004
> > irq1: atkbd0                        2491          0
> > irq3: xl0                           2030          0
> > irq6: fdc0                            11          0
> > irq7: ppbus0 ppc0                      1          0
> > irq8: rtc                       63654324        128
> > irq9: uhci0+                      166216          0
>
> uhci0 is doing strange things, what usb device are connected?

There are no USB devices connected.  I think those must actually
be atapci1 interrupts, since irq9 is where dmesg reported it.

> It could be bad configuration, bug or hardware problem.
From frank at shute.org.uk  Sun May 10 18:00:27 2009
From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute)
Date: Sun May 10 18:00:40 2009
Subject: 4 apcupsd problems using USB to connect on FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE
In-Reply-To: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <173f52ec0905100208sda471d2q31534ca168650d63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090510180012.GA87871@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 05:08:03PM +0800, Chun-fan Ivan Liao wrote:
>
> OS version: FreeBSD 7.2 RELEASE
> apcupsd version: 3.14.5
> UPS model: APC-MGE Back-UPS RS 1000VA (BR1000TW)
> UPS cable type: usb
> 
> 3 important lines in /usr/local/etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf:
> ---------
> UPSCABLE usb
> UPSTYPE usb
> DEVICE
> ---------
> Other lines are default.

I've got an APC SmartUPS 750 (USB on 6.4-RELEASE).

When I hacked my apcupsd.conf (sometime ago now), I put in:

DEVICE ugen0

I don't know if that's your problem i.e: you haven't specified the
DEVICE.

> 
> 
> Problem Description:
> 1.
> The APC box cannot be detected when connected to the FreeBSD system on
> system boot. (apcupsd_enable="YES" is set in /etc/rc.conf )
> 
> The associated messages in /var/log/messages:
> ---------
> May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in
> bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed
> USB trouble shooting information, please see
> <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
> May 10 16:08:27 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[901]: apcupsd error shutdown completed
> ---------
> 
> 2.
> Continuing 1, if I unplug the connecting USB then re-plug it to the
> same port, the USB cannot be identified.
> 
> The associated message in /var/log/messages:
> ---------
> May 10 16:36:17 aura-cosmetics kernel: uhub0: device problem
> (TIMEOUT), disabling port 3
> ---------
> 
> 3.
> Contiuning 2, changing the port to plug the USB will do, and
> /var/log/messages reads:
> ---------
> May 10 16:41:07 aura-cosmetics root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x051d
> product 0x0002 bus uhub1
> May 10 16:41:08 aura-cosmetics kernel: ugen0: <American Power
> Conversion Back-UPS RS 1000 FW:7.g9a.D USB FW:g9a, class 0/0, rev
> 1.10/1.06, addr 2> on uhub1
> ---------
> 
> But when starting the apcupsd now using [apcupsd start], there is no
> "freebsd startup succeeded" message appearing in /var/log/messages.
> 
> However using [ps ax| grep apcupsd], there is the following associated
> procedure in the standard output:
> ---------
> 1264? ??? Ss???? 0:00.01 apcupsd start
> ---------
> 
> 4.
> The last problem continuing 3, if stopping the apcupsd now using
> [apcupsd stop], the following error messages occur in
> /var/log/messages:
> ---------
> May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1270]: Valid lock file for
> pid=1264, but not ours pid=1270
> May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in
> bsd-usb.c at line 735 Cannot find UPS device -- For a link to detailed
> USB trouble shooting information, please see
> <http://www.apcupsd.com/support.html>.
> May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: Valid lock file for
> pid=1264, but not ours pid=1271
> May 10 16:48:11 aura-cosmetics apcupsd[1271]: apcupsd error shutdown completed
> ---------
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

-- 

 Frank 


 Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html 

From mailinglist at modernbiztonsag.org  Sun May 10 19:08:38 2009
From: mailinglist at modernbiztonsag.org (mailinglist@modernbiztonsag.org)
Date: Sun May 10 19:08:45 2009
Subject: 7.0 -> 7.1 crash every two day
Message-ID: <54a3573b09fae93458481c998ad6b538@127.0.0.1>

Dear List,

I've upgraded from source my 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE. It's a general
purpose server for a small company and it's clients, running web, sql, mail
and recursive dns. The machine is a Compaq ML350 G2. Version 7.0 was
running on it for a year now without any problem. After 30 of April I've
upgraded to 7.1 (I've followed the handbook) and since then nearly every
two day the machine becomes unreachable except for echorequest. If i try to
log in in the terminal it just hangs after i give my password.

I'm out of any ideas. Please feel free to ask any more info that I've
forgotten to provide. Thank You for your help in advance.

Here's the dmesg:

Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p5 #2: Fri Apr 24 18:44:13 CEST 2009
    root@lildevil.datawlan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FIREWALL
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel Pentium III (996.85-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
 
Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 536854528 (511 MB)
avail memory = 511340544 (487 MB)
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or
length:        0       0/2 [20070320]
acpi0: <COMPAQ RACEBAIT> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
unknown: I/O range not supported
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x240-0x243 on acpi0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
pci_link0: apparently invalid index 0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
sym0: <1510d> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem
0xc6effc00-0xc6efffff,0xc6efe000-0xc6efefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
sym0: [ITHREAD]
sym1: <1510d> port 0x2400-0x24ff mem
0xc6efdc00-0xc6efdfff,0xc6efc000-0xc6efcfff irq 11 at device 1.1 on pci0
sym1: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
sym1: [ITHREAD]
fxp0: <Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0x2800-0x283f mem
0xc6efb000-0xc6efbfff,0xc6d00000-0xc6dfffff irq 15 at device 2.0 on pci0
miibus0: <MII bus> on fxp0
inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> PHY 1 on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:ee:d2:d6
fxp0: [ITHREAD]
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x2c00-0x2cff mem
0xc5000000-0xc5ffffff,0xc6cff000-0xc6cfffff at device 3.0 on pci0
pci0: <base peripheral> at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 15.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <ServerWorks ROSB4 UDMA33 controller> port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3000-0x300f at device 15.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
pcib1: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
ida0: <Compaq Smart Array 431 controller> port 0x4000-0x40ff mem
0xc6fff000-0xc6ffffff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci3
ida0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ida0: [ITHREAD]
ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=1.22
idad0: <Compaq Logical Drive> on ida0
idad0: 34727MB (71122560 sectors), blocksize=512
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FILTER]
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: <Standard PC COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio0: [FILTER]
sio1: <Standard PC COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
sio1: [FILTER]
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xe8000-0xedfff,0xee000-0xeffff pnpid
ORM0000 on isa0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ppc0: [ITHREAD]
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 996851056 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
acd0: CDROM <GCR-8523B/1.03> at ata0-master PIO4
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider idad0s3 is msdosfs/SYSTEMCFG.
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/idad0s1a
WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /usr/home was not properly dismounted
/usr/home: mount pending error: blocks 48 files 4
WARNING: /usr/home/ftp was not properly dismounted
WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
/var: mount pending error: blocks 4 files 1

From onemda at gmail.com  Sun May 10 19:47:52 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Sun May 10 19:48:00 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905101247h7f01d6a4obbcbc81d3ae4b7a7@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/10/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
> "Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 5/9/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
>> > "Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 5/8/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
>> >> > What, exactly, is an "interrupt storm", and how do I fix it?
>> > ...
>> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
>> >> >   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR>
>> >> > error=4<ABORTED>
>> >> >   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
>> >> >
>> >> > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C.  (Just entering "q", to cause
>> >> > more(1) to exit and presumably stop od(1) with a SIGPIPE, did not
>> >> > stop the spew of messages.)
>> >> >
>> >> > What does this indicate?  Hardware problems?  Bad configuration?
>> >> > Something else?
>> >>
>> >> Output of "vmstat -i"?
>> >
>> > $ vmstat -i
>> > interrupt                          total       rate
>> > irq0: clk                      497386851       1004
>> > irq1: atkbd0                        2491          0
>> > irq3: xl0                           2030          0
>> > irq6: fdc0                            11          0
>> > irq7: ppbus0 ppc0                      1          0
>> > irq8: rtc                       63654324        128
>> > irq9: uhci0+                      166216          0
>>
>> uhci0 is doing strange things, what usb device are connected?
>
> There are no USB devices connected.  I think those must actually
> be atapci1 interrupts, since irq9 is where dmesg reported it.

Try editing /boot/device.hints lines with irq or adding similar lines ...

>
>> It could be bad configuration, bug or hardware problem.
>


-- 
Paul
From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Sun May 10 19:56:05 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Sun May 10 19:56:16 2009
Subject: 7.2-release and xorg
In-Reply-To: <SNT118-W14B8740FB1921762D23CB6CA620@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-W14B8740FB1921762D23CB6CA620@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A073151.6060904@onetel.com>

firak jotawski wrote:
> hi sirs,
> 
> apologized me for disturbing the list but i really have problem, X -config /root/xorg.conf.new produce a black screen and die.
> 
> i attached my machine uname -a, my xorg packages installed, X -configure output and its' configuration file.
> 
> any helps anf hints would highly appreciated.
> 
> with best regards,
> psr
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> More than messages?check out the rest of the Windows Live?.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
> 
> 
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> 
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http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html

eg

# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

Starting with Xorg 7.4 and above, this test produces a black screen 
which may make it difficult to diagnose whether X11 is working properly. 
The older behavior is still available by using the retro option:

# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro


Chris
From perryh at pluto.rain.com  Sun May 10 21:00:55 2009
From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com)
Date: Sun May 10 21:01:02 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905101247h7f01d6a4obbcbc81d3ae4b7a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905101247h7f01d6a4obbcbc81d3ae4b7a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a073f61.RrxzC7F5VdEWczgd%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

"Paul B. Mahol" <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/10/09, perryh@pluto.rain.com <perryh@pluto.rain.com> wrote:
...
> >> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >> >   interrupt storm detected on "irq9:"; throttling interrupt source
> >> >> >   ad6: FAILURE - SET_MULTI status=51<READY,DSC,ERROR>
> >> >> >    error=4<ABORTED>
> >> >> >   ad6: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry left) LBA=136936
> >> >> >
> >> >> > etc. etc. until I killed it with ^C ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Output of "vmstat -i"?
> >> >
> >> > $ vmstat -i
> >> > interrupt                          total       rate
> >> > irq0: clk                      497386851       1004
> >> > irq1: atkbd0                        2491          0
> >> > irq3: xl0                           2030          0
> >> > irq6: fdc0                            11          0
> >> > irq7: ppbus0 ppc0                      1          0
> >> > irq8: rtc                       63654324        128
> >> > irq9: uhci0+                      166216          0
> >>
> >> uhci0 is doing strange things, what usb device are connected?
> >
> > There are no USB devices connected.  I think those must actually
> > be atapci1 interrupts, since irq9 is where dmesg reported it.
>
> Try editing /boot/device.hints lines with irq or adding similar
> lines ...

How would I go about figuring out what to add or change?

I suppose I want to move either uhci0 or atapci1 to an unused irq,
but my recollection is that I don't have unlimited choice in the
matter because the IRQ used by a particular PCI device -- or at
least the set available for assignment -- is determined by how the
motherboard is wired.

Granted it's been several years since I was into PCI at this level.
From bbdl21548 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun May 10 22:25:11 2009
From: bbdl21548 at blueyonder.co.uk (Jasvinder S. Bahra)
Date: Sun May 10 22:48:36 2009
Subject: cups-base upgrade failure
Message-ID: <8CE8C5111A56466A86106CAA7C1881D4@atlantis>

Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade cups-base on my system, but i'm having some problems.

When I try (using portupgrade), i'm presented with the following...

----------8<----------
gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/ppd'
Making all in templates...
gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/templates'
gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/templates'
===>  Installing for cups-client-1.3.10_1
===>   Generating temporary packing list
===>  Checking if print/cups-client already installed
===>   cups-client-1.3.10_1 is already installed
      You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again
      by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.
      If you really wish to overwrite the old port of print/cups-client
      without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER"
      in your environment or the "make install" command line.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portupgrade20090510-49660-5q2d8w-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade 
UPGRADE_PORT=cups-base-1.3.9_3 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.3.9_3 make reinstall
--->  Restoring the old version
** Fix the installation problem and try again.
[Updating the pkgdb <format:bdb_btree> in /var/db/pkg ... - 39 packages 
found (-0 +1) . done]
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
        ! print/cups-base (cups-base-1.3.9_3)   (install error)
----------8<----------

If I do a "uname -a", I get the following...

----------8<----------
FreeBSD pearl.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx 6.4-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p4 #0: Mon 
Apr 27 19:11:59 BST 2009 
jazz@watchtower.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATCHTOWER  i386
----------8<----------

I've looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but i'm not seeing anything regarding 
cups.

Anyone have any ideas?


Jazz 



From mbeis at xs4all.nl  Sun May 10 23:27:13 2009
From: mbeis at xs4all.nl (Marco Beishuizen)
Date: Sun May 10 23:27:20 2009
Subject: GDM users list
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905110102300.25029@yokozuna.lan>


Hi,

When I use GDM for logging in, the only possible users I can choose from 
are the "logcheck system account" and "other", but not my regular user 
account. Why is that?

Marco

-- 
Only way to open lips of pigeon, sledgehammer.
From keramida at ceid.upatras.gr  Mon May 11 00:02:36 2009
From: keramida at ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas)
Date: Mon May 11 00:02:42 2009
Subject: GDM users list
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905110102300.25029@yokozuna.lan> (Marco
	Beishuizen's message of "Mon, 11 May 2009 01:07:10 +0200 (CEST)")
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905110102300.25029@yokozuna.lan>
Message-ID: <87fxfch5h5.fsf@kobe.laptop>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 01:07:10 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen <mbeis@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> When I use GDM for logging in, the only possible users I can choose
> from are the "logcheck system account" and "other", but not my regular
> user account. Why is that?

FWIW, the gdm user list applet seems to be having a few problems in
8.0-CURRENT too.

It is auto-enabled when procfs(5) is mounted at `/proc' but it only
shows `other' a few dozen times on my laptop, and clicking on them
sometimes crashes gdm.  I'm still trying to find out why, but you may
find it easier to get help by posting to the freebsd-gnome list.

From mbeis at xs4all.nl  Mon May 11 00:11:04 2009
From: mbeis at xs4all.nl (Marco Beishuizen)
Date: Mon May 11 00:11:12 2009
Subject: GDM users list
In-Reply-To: <87fxfch5h5.fsf@kobe.laptop>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905110102300.25029@yokozuna.lan>
	<87fxfch5h5.fsf@kobe.laptop>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905110208390.25029@yokozuna.lan>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> FWIW, the gdm user list applet seems to be having a few problems in
> 8.0-CURRENT too.
>
> It is auto-enabled when procfs(5) is mounted at `/proc' but it only
> shows `other' a few dozen times on my laptop, and clicking on them
> sometimes crashes gdm.  I'm still trying to find out why, but you may
> find it easier to get help by posting to the freebsd-gnome list.

Procfs is mounted at /proc on my system, but I'm not experiencing crashes. 
I'll send my question to the freebsd-gnome mailing list. Thanks.

Marco

-- 
Mustgo, n.:
 	Any item of food that has been sitting in the refrigerator so
 	long it has become a science project.
 		-- Rich Hall & Friends, "Sniglets"
From kelly.terry.jones at gmail.com  Mon May 11 00:22:41 2009
From: kelly.terry.jones at gmail.com (Kelly Jones)
Date: Mon May 11 00:22:57 2009
Subject: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports
Message-ID: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>

I often use "make -DBATCH install" to install ports.

Problem: many ports spew out a warning/todo message after you install
them (eg, "you must manually create an x user" or something).

Since ports install "recursively", I miss most of these messages.

Can I tell ports to store these messages for me somewhere?

Obviously, I can "make -DBATCH install > /tmp/outfile", but that'll
log all the "install", "test", etc commands that I don't want to see:
I just want to see the warnings at the end of each install.

-- 
We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying
to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to
new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.
From freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk  Mon May 11 00:22:42 2009
From: freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?=)
Date: Mon May 11 00:22:59 2009
Subject: Command-line IRC client
In-Reply-To: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560f92640905071719v22fdc862sa0eb50632df3a96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8250ac3f0905101722q11d8c199sbc3065e61c068986@mail.gmail.com>

irssi + screen

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Nerius Landys <nlandys@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the most recommended IRC client that runs in a terminal?
> rtorrent is to bit torrent what ____ is to IRC.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>



-- 

Med Venlig Hilsen

Kalle R. M?ller
From michel.dicroci at gmail.com  Mon May 11 01:41:59 2009
From: michel.dicroci at gmail.com (Michel Di Croci)
Date: Mon May 11 01:42:06 2009
Subject: Booting question
Message-ID: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

When I boot, it takes about 5 mins before being up and running. Since it's
my first FreeBSD, I didn't thought there was an issue, but I think there's
one ;)

I have a P4 2.8 HT which is too bad computer and I really think the issue is
in freeBSD and the Giant Locked and stuff like that. The computer stays in a
waiting "mode" for about 3 minutes or something like that. It's unbearable,
however, since I reboot like once in a month, it's not that bad ;) But I'm
still wondering why it's so slow.

I have compiled my own kernel, removed driver I don't use but I kept all usb
drivers. Like I told you, it's really the USB part that seems to be long to
load. It's like it's waiting for a stabilization mode that is never coming.

Anyone had that kind of issue? I'm running 7.2 and it's been there since the
installation with 7.1.

Thanks and have a nice day

Michel
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Mon May 11 01:52:35 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Mon May 11 01:52:42 2009
Subject: Booting question
In-Reply-To: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905101852s413792cdi31a57da3cb6325f8@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Michel Di Croci
<michel.dicroci@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> When I boot, it takes about 5 mins before being up and running. Since it's
> my first FreeBSD, I didn't thought there was an issue, but I think there's
> one ;)
>
> I have a P4 2.8 HT which is too bad computer and I really think the issue is
> in freeBSD and the Giant Locked and stuff like that. The computer stays in a
> waiting "mode" for about 3 minutes or something like that. It's unbearable,
> however, since I reboot like once in a month, it's not that bad ;) But I'm
> still wondering why it's so slow.
>
> I have compiled my own kernel, removed driver I don't use but I kept all usb
> drivers. Like I told you, it's really the USB part that seems to be long to
> load. It's like it's waiting for a stabilization mode that is never coming.
>
> Anyone had that kind of issue? I'm running 7.2 and it's been there since the
> installation with 7.1.
>

Did it hang with GENERIC?  If not, do a diff on your config and the
GENERIC config, and paste it for us.

(On a side note, is your machine's `hostname` in /etc/hosts?  I've had
a problem with sendmail hanging for some time because the hostname was
not resolvable.  Just a side-thought.)

-- 
Glen Barber
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Mon May 11 02:03:46 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Mon May 11 02:03:52 2009
Subject: Booting question
In-Reply-To: <e321688c0905101857m1a551392jf219f86dc4c72383@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ad871310905101852s413792cdi31a57da3cb6325f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e321688c0905101857m1a551392jf219f86dc4c72383@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905101903k7911f101ra4940b826a83de63@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Michel Di Croci
<michel.dicroci@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Did it hang with GENERIC? ?If not, do a diff on your config and the
>> GENERIC config, and paste it for us.
>
> If I remember correctly, yes but I don,t remember. Can you tell me if I
> don't want to lose my actual kernel, how can I make a new kernel and install
> it not as principal one.
>

This is explained in the handbook and the manual pages.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig-trouble.html

You want to use 'nextboot' and specify the kernel location.

>>
>> (On a side note, is your machine's `hostname` in /etc/hosts? ?I've had
>> a problem with sendmail hanging for some time because the hostname was
>> not resolvable. ?Just a side-thought.)
>
> Yes it is in. And it's not the sendmail that is slow, it's the detection /
> kernel step... not the service steps.
>

If you're using 7.2 (-RELEASE I assume?) and this has been happening
since 7.1, it's not something that has changed recently.  I don't
recall seeing issues like this on this list (or stable@ for that
matter).  Perhaps it is a hardware problem, but I've never been good
at diagnosing hardware issues.

-- 
Glen Barber
From michel.dicroci at gmail.com  Mon May 11 02:21:13 2009
From: michel.dicroci at gmail.com (Michel Di Croci)
Date: Mon May 11 02:21:20 2009
Subject: Booting question
In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905101852s413792cdi31a57da3cb6325f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ad871310905101852s413792cdi31a57da3cb6325f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e321688c0905101857m1a551392jf219f86dc4c72383@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Glen Barber <glen.j.barber@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Michel Di Croci
> <michel.dicroci@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > When I boot, it takes about 5 mins before being up and running. Since
> it's
> > my first FreeBSD, I didn't thought there was an issue, but I think
> there's
> > one ;)
> >
> > I have a P4 2.8 HT which is too bad computer and I really think the issue
> is
> > in freeBSD and the Giant Locked and stuff like that. The computer stays
> in a
> > waiting "mode" for about 3 minutes or something like that. It's
> unbearable,
> > however, since I reboot like once in a month, it's not that bad ;) But
> I'm
> > still wondering why it's so slow.
> >
> > I have compiled my own kernel, removed driver I don't use but I kept all
> usb
> > drivers. Like I told you, it's really the USB part that seems to be long
> to
> > load. It's like it's waiting for a stabilization mode that is never
> coming.
> >
> > Anyone had that kind of issue? I'm running 7.2 and it's been there since
> the
> > installation with 7.1.
> >
>
> Did it hang with GENERIC?  If not, do a diff on your config and the
> GENERIC config, and paste it for us.
>

If I remember correctly, yes but I don,t remember. Can you tell me if I
don't want to lose my actual kernel, how can I make a new kernel and install
it not as principal one.


>
> (On a side note, is your machine's `hostname` in /etc/hosts?  I've had
> a problem with sendmail hanging for some time because the hostname was
> not resolvable.  Just a side-thought.)
>

Yes it is in. And it's not the sendmail that is slow, it's the detection /
kernel step... not the service steps.

Michel


>
> --
> Glen Barber
>
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Mon May 11 02:35:47 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Mon May 11 02:35:54 2009
Subject: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports
In-Reply-To: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905101935s40671484k2712a57e5342ea55@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Kelly Jones
<kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com> wrote:
> I often use "make -DBATCH install" to install ports.
>
> Problem: many ports spew out a warning/todo message after you install
> them (eg, "you must manually create an x user" or something).
>
> Since ports install "recursively", I miss most of these messages.
>
> Can I tell ports to store these messages for me somewhere?
>
> Obviously, I can "make -DBATCH install > /tmp/outfile", but that'll
> log all the "install", "test", etc commands that I don't want to see:
> I just want to see the warnings at the end of each install.
>

Have a look at:
   /usr/ports/<category>/<port>/pkg-message

Some ports have the message output in the Makefile instead.

-- 
Glen Barber
From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 02:36:36 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 02:36:43 2009
Subject: geometry does not match label
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905110806240.4770@localhost>

Hi all:

when i try to boot the system using FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905
bootonly CD, the following line is shown.

GEOM: ad4: geometry does not match label (255h,63S != 16h, 63s)

i just selected the entire disk and marked it bootable in the
fdisk partition editor option.

The system has a 160GB SATA HDD with
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders

Any pointers or suggestions ?


thanks
Saifi.
From terry at sucked-in.com  Mon May 11 04:20:26 2009
From: terry at sucked-in.com (Terry Sposato)
Date: Mon May 11 04:20:33 2009
Subject: cups-base upgrade failure
In-Reply-To: <8CE8C5111A56466A86106CAA7C1881D4@atlantis>
References: <8CE8C5111A56466A86106CAA7C1881D4@atlantis>
Message-ID: <20090511140459.36541e17zd7r6twg@webmail.tabmow.info>

Quoting "Jasvinder S. Bahra" <bbdl21548@blueyonder.co.uk>:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to upgrade cups-base on my system, but i'm having some problems.
>
> When I try (using portupgrade), i'm presented with the following...
>
> ----------8<----------
> gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory  
> `/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/ppd'
> Making all in templates...
> gmake[1]: Entering directory  
> `/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/templates'
> gmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory  
> `/var/ports/basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client/work/cups-1.3.10/templates'
> ===>  Installing for cups-client-1.3.10_1
> ===>   Generating temporary packing list
> ===>  Checking if print/cups-client already installed
> ===>   cups-client-1.3.10_1 is already installed
>      You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again
>      by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.
>      If you really wish to overwrite the old port of print/cups-client
>      without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER"
>      in your environment or the "make install" command line.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-client.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /basejail/usr/ports/print/cups-base.
> ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa  
> /tmp/portupgrade20090510-49660-5q2d8w-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade  
> UPGRADE_PORT=cups-base-1.3.9_3 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.3.9_3 make reinstall
> --->  Restoring the old version
> ** Fix the installation problem and try again.
> [Updating the pkgdb <format:bdb_btree> in /var/db/pkg ... - 39  
> packages found (-0 +1) . done]
> ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
>        ! print/cups-base (cups-base-1.3.9_3)   (install error)
> ----------8<----------
>
> If I do a "uname -a", I get the following...
>
> ----------8<----------
> FreeBSD pearl.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx 6.4-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p4  
> #0: Mon Apr 27 19:11:59 BST 2009  
> jazz@watchtower.xxxxxxxxxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATCHTOWER  i386
> ----------8<----------
>
> I've looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING, but i'm not seeing anything  
> regarding cups.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
>
> Jazz _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>

Try re-installing cups-client and then upgrading cups-base.
I see the same issue when using portmaster, after you re-install the  
dependency it usually builds/installs fine.

Regards,

Terry Sposato
terry@sucked-in.com
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From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 05:12:37 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 05:12:44 2009
Subject: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev !
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111020300.4982@localhost>

Hi all:

Issue faced
 Installer on 'Commit' step shows
  Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev!
  The creation of filesystems will be aborted.

System
 Intel Celeron M 1.6 GHz 
 Intel 945GM board
 2GB DDR2
 160GB SATA Seagate HDD

i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 DVD to try and install 
the OS.

Using the FreeBSD 7.1 DVD, i'm able to make the partition,
define the slices and install a 'minimal' distribution set.

However with FreeBSD 8.0 200905 snapshot i'm getting the 
above mentioned error.

Any pointers or workarounds ?


thanks
Saifi.
From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 05:16:04 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 05:16:11 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>

Hi all:

Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?

i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
Fixit# command line console.

i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.

Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?


thanks
Saifi.
From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 05:45:00 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 05:45:14 2009
Subject: fdisk: class not found
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111115330.5038@localhost>

Hi all:

Trying to write a partition table using fdisk supplied in the
installation DVD of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot.

Should we write new partition table ? [n] y
fdisk: Class not found

When i again run 'fdisk' it should the old partition table.

What exactly does 'Class not found' mean ?

There is no mention of the 'Class' in fdisk man page at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=fdisk&sektion=8

Can the experienced BSD guys explain ?


thanks
Saifi.
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Mon May 11 05:52:54 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Mon May 11 05:53:01 2009
Subject: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports
In-Reply-To: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A07BD27.8080805@infracaninophile.co.uk>

Kelly Jones wrote:
> I often use "make -DBATCH install" to install ports.
> 
> Problem: many ports spew out a warning/todo message after you install
> them (eg, "you must manually create an x user" or something).
> 
> Since ports install "recursively", I miss most of these messages.
> 
> Can I tell ports to store these messages for me somewhere?
> 
> Obviously, I can "make -DBATCH install > /tmp/outfile", but that'll
> log all the "install", "test", etc commands that I don't want to see:
> I just want to see the warnings at the end of each install.


portmaster will save up package messages and display them all at the
end of the session.  I believe a similar feature is planned for portupgrade
but as far as I know it hasn't been released yet.

In any case, you can redisplay the pkg-message for any installed port
by:

   % pkg_info -Dx portname

	Cheers,

	Matthew


-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
                                                  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
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From doconnor at gsoft.com.au  Mon May 11 06:31:28 2009
From: doconnor at gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor)
Date: Mon May 11 06:31:34 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
Message-ID: <200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
> Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
> installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?
>
> i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
> for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
> Fixit# command line console.
>
> i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.
>
> Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?

You won't be able to partition the disk from the command line because 
the install MFS doesn't have any of the requisite tools to do so.

You could do it from a livefs disk however.

As for observations.. I think you're wasting your time :)

-- 
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 07:31:25 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 07:31:33 2009
Subject: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev !
In-Reply-To: <184059.72466.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <184059.72466.qm@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111231390.5189@localhost>

On Sun, 10 May 2009, James Phillips wrote:

> 
> --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@twincling.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@twincling.org>
> > Subject: Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev !
> > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Received: Monday, May 11, 2009, 6:45 AM
> > Hi all:
> > 
> > Issue faced
> >  Installer on 'Commit' step shows
> >   Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev!
> >   The creation of filesystems will be aborted.
> 
> I am missing some context, but for me ad4 refers to the first drive on an add-on card. (ad0,1 -> Primary IDE controller, ad2,3 -> Secondary IDE controller)
> 
> handbook reference:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html
> (Rule out the situation described in:
> 2.6.1 BIOS Drive Numbering)
> 
> Your hardware in newer than mine: you have only one PATA port and 2 SATA ports. While having your drive labeled as ad4 strikes me as weird, I don't have enough BSD experience to know if it is a symptom of a problem or not. (I know my drive is on ad4 because the on-board controllers are slower than my add-on card. After a BIOS update booting is no problem. (I initially tried to forcibly disable the on-board controller: now, I ignore it.))
> 
> 
> Do you think you may have come across an installer bug?
> If so, I suspect we will need more information about exactly what you were trying to do.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James Phillips
> 
> > 
> > System
> >  Intel Celeron M 1.6 GHz 
> >  Intel 945GM board
> Mobile chipset apparently.
> 
> >  2GB DDR2
> >  160GB SATA Seagate HDD
> > 
> <SNIPPED Version 7.1 works, 8.0 does not>
> > 
> > Any pointers or workarounds ?
> > 
> > 

Thank you for your kind reply.

Thank you for the handbook reference, i did read the section.
In fact, there is only one SATA HDD in my laptop.

PCI information

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

I've got two identical Compaq Presario C300TU laptops - one
running Gentoo Linux and other "would" run FreeBSD 8.0 (when it gets)

Additionally, from the BIOS i've activated
 . Wireless Radio (Broadcom chipset)
 . Native SATA Controller
 . Realtek Netboot agent

There is only ONE SATA Seagate HDD of 160GB in the system.

Currently, i'm struggling to get the installation work from the
Fixit# command line.

Any suggestions ?


thanks
Saifi.
From vince at unsane.co.uk  Mon May 11 09:01:30 2009
From: vince at unsane.co.uk (Vincent Hoffman)
Date: Mon May 11 09:01:51 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>

On 11/5/09 11:48, Saifi Khan wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
> installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?
>
> i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
> for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
> Fixit# command line console.
>
> i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.
>
> Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?
>
>   
Since you are using the snapshot DVD you should have the live/fixit
environment which is very handy for this.
I would suggest a combination of LOTS of reading and understanding of
the pages at
http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2
(which goes though the steps for partitoning and installing using fdisk
and bsdlabel, adjust paths to your dvd-rom)
and if you want zfs
http://lulf.geeknest.org/blog/freebsd/Setting_up_a_zfs-only_system/
(goes though using gpart instead of fdisk and bsdlabel if you want to
use zfs on root)
should be enough to get you started. I assume you dont need too much
hand holding since you want to install -CURRENT.


Vince

> thanks
> Saifi.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>   

From rlopes at cern.ch  Mon May 11 09:37:35 2009
From: rlopes at cern.ch (RAUL H C LOPES)
Date: Mon May 11 09:37:42 2009
Subject: Sun E250
Message-ID: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>

Hello,

We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd like 
to have Freebsd running on it. I see from the
  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/hardware-sparc64.html#AEN30

that freebsd runs on E250, but it is not clear for me whether it 
supports the disk array. Would you know of anyone running FreeBSD on 
that storage?

Thanks, Raul
From csergetov at gmail.com  Mon May 11 11:19:37 2009
From: csergetov at gmail.com (Renato A. Rocabo)
Date: Mon May 11 11:19:46 2009
Subject: Processors
Message-ID: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

    I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor
compatible with FreeBSD.

Thanks a lot..........

-- 
Renato A. Rocabo
mobile: 09208095152
email: csergetov@gmail.com
ym: carlos_sergetov@yahoo.com
skype: rrocabo

If you don't write it down, then it never happen....
From on at cs.ait.ac.th  Mon May 11 11:29:32 2009
From: on at cs.ait.ac.th (Olivier Nicole)
Date: Mon May 11 11:29:40 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	(csergetov@gmail.com)
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905111128.n4BBSOhr091963@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>

>     I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor
> compatible with FreeBSD.

yes it is.

Olivier
From ns at got2get.net  Mon May 11 11:56:18 2009
From: ns at got2get.net (Nicolais)
Date: Mon May 11 11:56:25 2009
Subject: how to fix "interrupt storm"
In-Reply-To: <4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References: <4a04702a.ZaIfHAUzw/YexVK2%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905090746g5324d8ffl1ea10645c0e5f45c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a05f963.OI3CMfJ3/j2hbi4D%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
	<3a142e750905100452s73aa391bjcdc8fea49636ee37@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a070969.mYZsiV8emLhJVvVg%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
Message-ID: <23481884.post@talk.nabble.com>



PerryH-2 wrote:
> 
> There are no USB devices connected.  I think those must actually
> be atapci1 interrupts, since irq9 is where dmesg reported it.
> 

I think this could be related to previous issues on same topic. I don't
recall the thread titles, but the solution is located here:

http://confighell.com/FreeBSD#How_to_get_rid_of_interrupt_storm_atapci0_and_others_

I hope it can solve things out for you as well.

 - Nicolai
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From kheuer2 at gwdg.de  Mon May 11 12:01:45 2009
From: kheuer2 at gwdg.de (Konrad Heuer)
Date: Mon May 11 12:01:52 2009
Subject: 64-Bit Linux Applications
Message-ID: <20090511140011.S64769@gwdu60.gwdg.de>


Hello,

can I run 64 bit Linux applications on FreeBSD/amd64? Or is Linux 
emulation 32 bit only?

Thanks and best regards
Konrad


Konrad Heuer
GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de
From socketss at hotmail.com  Mon May 11 12:37:01 2009
From: socketss at hotmail.com (firak jotawski)
Date: Mon May 11 12:37:09 2009
Subject: 7.2-release and xorg
In-Reply-To: <4A073151.6060904@onetel.com>
References: <SNT118-W14B8740FB1921762D23CB6CA620@phx.gbl>
	<4A073151.6060904@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <SNT118-W52434E5F040036A8D84C94CA630@phx.gbl>




> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:56:01 +0100
> From: cwhiteh@onetel.com
> To: socketss@hotmail.com
> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: 7.2-release and xorg
> 
> firak jotawski wrote:
> > hi sirs,
> > 
> > apologized me for disturbing the list but i really have problem, X -config /root/xorg.conf.new produce a black screen and die.
> > 
> > i attached my machine uname -a, my xorg packages installed, X -configure output and its' configuration file.
> > 
> > any helps anf hints would highly appreciated.
> > 
> > with best regards,
> > psr
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > More than messages?check out the rest of the Windows Live?.
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
> 
> eg
> 
> # Xorg -config xorg.conf.new
> 
> Starting with Xorg 7.4 and above, this test produces a black screen 
> which may make it difficult to diagnose whether X11 is working properly. 
> The older behavior is still available by using the retro option:
> 
> # Xorg -config xorg.conf.new -retro
> 

Thank you for your kind reply.  And the links that i have read but i have no lucks in starting X.
i have to revert back to 7.3 instead since i need to bring my box up and running for works tomorrow.
i will try again by the end of this month anyway.

i appreciate all of helps and hints for my case.

with best regards,
psr


> 
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

_________________________________________________________________
More than messages?check out the rest of the Windows Live?.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May 11 12:45:03 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May 11 12:45:10 2009
Subject: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports
In-Reply-To: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090511124358.GA20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 04:49:27PM -0700, Kelly Jones wrote:

> I often use "make -DBATCH install" to install ports.
> 
> Problem: many ports spew out a warning/todo message after you install
> them (eg, "you must manually create an x user" or something).
> 
> Since ports install "recursively", I miss most of these messages.
> 
> Can I tell ports to store these messages for me somewhere?
> 
> Obviously, I can "make -DBATCH install > /tmp/outfile", but that'll
> log all the "install", "test", etc commands that I don't want to see:
> I just want to see the warnings at the end of each install.

Check out   script(1)   It is not perfect, but it will put a copy
of everything in and out in to a file that you can peruse later.

There may be other ways, but this is easy.

////jerry


> 
> -- 
> We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying
> to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to
> new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.
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From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 12:47:36 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 12:47:49 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Vincent Hoffman wrote:

> On 11/5/09 11:48, Saifi Khan wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
> > installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?
> >
> > i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
> > for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
> > Fixit# command line console.
> >
> > i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.
> >
> > Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?
> >
> >   
> Since you are using the snapshot DVD you should have the live/fixit
> environment which is very handy for this.
> I would suggest a combination of LOTS of reading and understanding of
> the pages at
> http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2
> (which goes though the steps for partitoning and installing using fdisk
> and bsdlabel, adjust paths to your dvd-rom)
> and if you want zfs
> http://lulf.geeknest.org/blog/freebsd/Setting_up_a_zfs-only_system/
> (goes though using gpart instead of fdisk and bsdlabel if you want to
> use zfs on root)
> should be enough to get you started. I assume you dont need too much
> hand holding since you want to install -CURRENT.
> 
> 
> Vince
> 

Vince, thanks for the freebsd-on-usb link. i really appreciate
your help.

"Unknown giant"
i still wonder why a snapshot should have a dysfunctional installer ?

stable slice and partition support is key to trying or helping
or contributing towards testing/coding for an evolving "unknown
giant". Oh well :)

Check this out
http://www.twincling.org/node/237

If you scan this page for a minute, you will appreciate the
overall flow of installation of Gentoo Linux. Even if you
haven't tried the weekly Gentoo build, you may be encouraged to
try this out !

Putting out a monthly snapshot is nice and if the people are
going to not find info about 'Fixit#' and commands in the
legendary handbook, that is not very helpful.


thanks
Saifi.

the time has come ... 1227.
From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May 11 13:05:10 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May 11 13:05:17 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Message-ID: <20090511130405.GB20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 03:45:03PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
> > Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
> > installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?
> >
> > i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
> > for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
> > Fixit# command line console.
> >
> > i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.
> >
> > Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?
> 
> You won't be able to partition the disk from the command line because 
> the install MFS doesn't have any of the requisite tools to do so.

???????   I don't understand this comment.
Recreating a disk - slice/parttion/newfs - is one of the main things
to do under a fixit.   You should have fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs there
as well as restore for sucking dumps back in.

The only thing to remember is that the running writable root file system 
under fixit is in memory.   You have to make sure that what you do is to 
the disk and that the fstab you create is on the disk.   It is easy to
lose track and make an /etc/fstab modification or a mount point in the 
MFS and then find it is no longer there when you reboot.  But, you just 
have to pay attention to where you are doing things.

////jerry




> 
> You could do it from a livefs disk however.
> 
> As for observations.. I think you're wasting your time :)
> 
> -- 
> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
> "The nice thing about standards is that there
> are so many of them to choose from."
>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
> GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C


From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May 11 13:22:28 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May 11 13:22:38 2009
Subject: Reading warnings when installing multiple ports
In-Reply-To: <4A07BD27.8080805@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References: <26face530905101649kbb21d03ud620c15f16483c3f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A07BD27.8080805@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Message-ID: <20090511132124.GD20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 06:52:39AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> Kelly Jones wrote:
> >I often use "make -DBATCH install" to install ports.
> >
> >Problem: many ports spew out a warning/todo message after you install
> >them (eg, "you must manually create an x user" or something).
> >
> >Since ports install "recursively", I miss most of these messages.
> >
> >Can I tell ports to store these messages for me somewhere?
> >
> >Obviously, I can "make -DBATCH install > /tmp/outfile", but that'll
> >log all the "install", "test", etc commands that I don't want to see:
> >I just want to see the warnings at the end of each install.
> 
> 
> portmaster will save up package messages and display them all at the
> end of the session.  I believe a similar feature is planned for portupgrade
> but as far as I know it hasn't been released yet.

> 
> In any case, you can redisplay the pkg-message for any installed port
> by:
> 
>   % pkg_info -Dx portname
> 
> 	Cheers,
> 
> 	Matthew
> 

This is handy and seems to work.

But, I very often wish there was a convenient way to see some of those
messages and especially messages about things one has to do during
the install, such as manually installing something or getting some
license thing handled, before I start the port install.   

Sometimes I get a question in the middle of an install that I do not
know how to answer and it is an awfully inconvenient time to have
to start scrounging for information.    Having a commannd that
would display all those things and maybe some related information
or pointers to information for making an intelligent response - before
starting the make -  would be very helpful.

////jerry      

> 
> -- 
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
>                                                  Flat 3
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
>                                                  Kent, CT11 9PW
> 


From andrewlylegould at gmail.com  Mon May 11 13:23:45 2009
From: andrewlylegould at gmail.com (Andrew Gould)
Date: Mon May 11 13:23:52 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d356c5630905110623r4ff9a078q7c0be0f6fc2b73c8@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Renato A. Rocabo <csergetov@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
>    I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor
> compatible with FreeBSD.
>
> Thanks a lot..........
>
> --
> Renato A. Rocabo
> mobile: 09208095152
> email: csergetov@gmail.com
> ym: carlos_sergetov@yahoo.com
> skype: rrocabo
>

Welcome to FreeBSD.  Since you're new, it's likely that you'll have many
such questions regarding hardware compatibility.  The link below will take
you to the hardware notes for the most recent release (7.2):

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/hardware.html

Best of luck,

Andrew
From doconnor at gsoft.com.au  Mon May 11 13:47:35 2009
From: doconnor at gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor)
Date: Mon May 11 13:47:48 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <20090511130405.GB20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<20090511130405.GB20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
Message-ID: <200905112317.17225.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 03:45:03PM +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 May 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
> > > Is there a way to sidestep the sysinstall during the
> > > installation process, beyond selecting the 'location' ?
> > >
> > > i'm using FreeBSD 8.0 200905 i386 snapshot DVD and looking
> > > for an approach to drive the entire installation from the
> > > Fixit# command line console.
> > >
> > > i'm a experienced Gentoo Linux user.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions, pointers or observations ?
> >
> > You won't be able to partition the disk from the command line
> > because the install MFS doesn't have any of the requisite tools to
> > do so.
>
> ???????   I don't understand this comment.
> Recreating a disk - slice/parttion/newfs - is one of the main things
> to do under a fixit.   You should have fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs
> there as well as restore for sucking dumps back in.

Depends what sort of fixit you have.
A holographic shell won't have it, but the others will.

It's pretty easy to do a minimal install on your new disk and then go 
into the fixit shell, then you will have the full suite of tools 
(although if you're doing a full restore you should use the /rescue 
version or odd things will happen when you overwrite the binary you're 
using).

-- 
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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From ricardo.souza at cmtsp.com.br  Mon May 11 13:57:18 2009
From: ricardo.souza at cmtsp.com.br (Ricardo Augusto de Souza)
Date: Mon May 11 13:57:27 2009
Subject: Cant setup carp as BACKUP
Message-ID: <E85141A51657B14A981D1FF0E65F72465DB8A1FF7E@EXVS04.corpmail.net>

Hi,

i have 2 servers running FreeBSD 7.1 on IBM 3550.
I configured 2 carp: internal and external carps.

Internal carp is working fine, but external one are MASTER on both servers.

Trinity# cat rc.conf|grep carp
cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1"
ifconfig_carp1="up 10.100.0.119/24 vhid 2 pass fw_cmt123"
ifconfig_carp2="up 200.143.111.113/28 vhid 1 pass fw_cmt123"
#


carp1: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 10.100.0.119 netmask 0xffffff00
        carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0
ng1: flags=88d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1460
        inet 172.16.0.1 --> 172.16.0.2 netmask 0xffffffff
carp2: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 200.143.111.113 netmask 0xfffffff0
        carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 0


Ajax# cat rc.conf |grep carp
cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1"
#ifconfig_carp0="up 200.143.111.113/28 vhid 1 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123"
ifconfig_carp2="vhid 1 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123 200.143.111.113/28"
ifconfig_carp1="up 10.100.0.119/24 vhid 2 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123"
Ajax#

carp1: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 10.100.0.119 netmask 0xffffff00
        carp: BACKUP vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 100
carp2: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 200.143.111.113 netmask 0xfffffff0
        carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 100
Ajax#

How do i set carp2 on Ajax to be BACKUP?

AT this configuration,  most packets to 200.143.111.113 are going to Trinity and some going to Ajax.

Thanks


From doconnor at gsoft.com.au  Mon May 11 14:04:09 2009
From: doconnor at gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor)
Date: Mon May 11 14:04:21 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>
Message-ID: <200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
> "Unknown giant"
> i still wonder why a snapshot should have a dysfunctional installer ?
>
> stable slice and partition support is key to trying or helping
> or contributing towards testing/coding for an evolving "unknown
> giant". Oh well :)

I think you're missing the point of a -current snapshot.
It is _not_ designed for someone to come along and go "hey I'd like to 
get into developing FreeBSD, I'll install it".

It is there as a "system test" (ie make sure make release works) and to 
provide a handy ISO for gurus if they need to bootstrap something.

The fact the installer is broken should be reported as a bug though (ie 
send-pr).

> Check this out
> http://www.twincling.org/node/237
>
> If you scan this page for a minute, you will appreciate the
> overall flow of installation of Gentoo Linux. Even if you
> haven't tried the weekly Gentoo build, you may be encouraged to
> try this out !
>
> Putting out a monthly snapshot is nice and if the people are
> going to not find info about 'Fixit#' and commands in the
> legendary handbook, that is not very helpful.

FreeBSD doesn't work this way, you are trying to fit FreeBSD into your 
Gentoo way of thinking. Obviously this causes pain, please stop.

If you want to try FreeBSD, start with a release, if that works then you 
can update to HEAD and install that way.

-- 
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 14:06:05 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 14:06:13 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>

Hi all:

The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.

Here is the PCI information

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

How does the labelling logic work ? 


thanks
Saifi.
From seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us  Mon May 11 14:07:53 2009
From: seklecki at noc.cfi.pgh.pa.us (Brian A. Seklecki)
Date: Mon May 11 14:08:00 2009
Subject: Sun E250
In-Reply-To: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
References: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <1242050567.2053.225.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>

On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 10:27 +0100, RAUL H C LOPES wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd like 
> to

Try a LiveCD on it?  Also, does the Storedge A1000 require a special
RAID controller or does it appear on the onboard HBA as a logical
volume?

In my experience, Sun has a limited set of RAID cards, but most RAIDs
are DAS with a management interface (Ethernet mostly) 

~BAS

From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 14:12:39 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 14:12:46 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>
	<200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111941340.6352@localhost>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

> >
> > Putting out a monthly snapshot is nice and if the people are
> > going to not find info about 'Fixit#' and commands in the
> > legendary handbook, that is not very helpful.
> 
> FreeBSD doesn't work this way, you are trying to fit FreeBSD into your 
> Gentoo way of thinking. Obviously this causes pain, please stop.
> 

i'll be highly obliged, if you could share some nuggets of
wisdom on 'the FreeBSD way' ! Please.


thanks
Saifi.
From dkarapet at nd.edu  Mon May 11 14:15:22 2009
From: dkarapet at nd.edu (David Karapetyan)
Date: Mon May 11 14:15:30 2009
Subject: Unable to compile Hal
Message-ID: <20090511135956.GA12125@vagrant>

I am currently running FBSD RELEASE-7.2. I have updated the system using 
freebsd-update, ran portsnap fetch update to update all ports, and then 
ran portupgrade to upgrade all installed ports to their current 
versions. Yet, I am unable to compile hal; I get an error message 
"/usr/local/lib/libpolkit.so: undefined reference to 
'strndup@FBSD_1.1'". Any suggestions would be welcome.

-- 
--
Best,
David Karapetyan
http://davidkarapetyan.com
University of Notre Dame
Department of Mathematics
255 Hurley Hall
Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618
Phone: 574-631-5706
Cell:  202-460-5173
Fax:   574-631-6579

From j.mckeown at ru.ac.za  Mon May 11 14:30:26 2009
From: j.mckeown at ru.ac.za (Jonathan McKeown)
Date: Mon May 11 14:30:34 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
Message-ID: <200905111630.23123.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>

On Monday 11 May 2009 21:38:50 Saifi Khan wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
> identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.
[snip]
> How does the labelling logic work ?

FreeBSD reserves numbers for devices that aren't currently connected, so that 
if you connect them later your existing devices don't need to be renumbered.

Your BIOS is reporting two IDE interfaces, each of which could have a master 
and slave disk drive, so ad0-3 are reserved for those four drives, meaning 
SATA starts at ad4.

Some BIOSes let you change this.

Jonathan
From stefan.lambrev at moneybookers.com  Mon May 11 14:37:09 2009
From: stefan.lambrev at moneybookers.com (Stefan Lambrev)
Date: Mon May 11 14:37:21 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
Message-ID: <65FA500B-0FDC-4C75-95B9-2B99C6117DBF@moneybookers.com>

You may want to become familiar with:

#
# The following options are valid on the ATA driver:
#
# ATA_STATIC_ID:        controller numbering is static ie depends on  
location
#                       else the device numbers are dynamically  
allocated.

options         ATA_STATIC_ID

Long time ago FreeBSD people decided that it's very annoying when you  
plug ata CD or another HDD
and then your ad1 (which is ad4) becomes ad2, and makes your OS un- 
bootable without manual intervention.

Today we have geom labels, but still ATA_STATIC_ID is something I  
really miss on every linux ..

P.S. -current removed.

On May 11, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Saifi Khan wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
> identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.
>
> Here is the PCI information
>
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS,  
> 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/ 
> GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,  
> 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High  
> Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI  
> Express Port 1 (rev 01)
> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI  
> Express Port 3 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB  
> UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB  
> UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB  
> UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2  
> EHCI Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC  
> Interface Bridge (rev 01)
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE  
> Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7  
> Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus  
> Controller (rev 01)
> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan  
> mini-PCI (rev 01)
> 08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.  
> RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>
> How does the labelling logic work ?
>
>
> thanks
> Saifi.
> _______________________________________________
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> "

--
Best Wishes,
Stefan Lambrev
ICQ# 24134177





From ertr1013 at student.uu.se  Mon May 11 14:38:03 2009
From: ertr1013 at student.uu.se (Erik Trulsson)
Date: Mon May 11 14:38:11 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <200905111630.23123.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
	<200905111630.23123.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
Message-ID: <20090511143719.GA15035@owl.midgard.homeip.net>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 04:30:23PM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Monday 11 May 2009 21:38:50 Saifi Khan wrote:
> > Hi all:
> >
> > The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
> > identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.
> [snip]
> > How does the labelling logic work ?
> 
> FreeBSD reserves numbers for devices that aren't currently connected, so that 
> if you connect them later your existing devices don't need to be renumbered.

It does this if you have 'options  ATA_STATIC_ID' in your kernel config
(which is the default.) Otherwise all PATA/SATA disks installed will
numbered from ad0 upwards without any gaps.  The drawback of that is that
without the static numbering the disk devices can (and often will) be
renumbered if you add or remove a disk, which often is not desirable.


> 
> Your BIOS is reporting two IDE interfaces, each of which could have a master 
> and slave disk drive, so ad0-3 are reserved for those four drives, meaning 
> SATA starts at ad4.
> 
> Some BIOSes let you change this.
> 
> Jonathan


-- 
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
ertr1013@student.uu.se
From perrin at apotheon.com  Mon May 11 14:42:21 2009
From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin)
Date: Mon May 11 14:42:28 2009
Subject: Licensing
In-Reply-To: <4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca>
References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca>
	<20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra>
	<4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca>
Message-ID: <20090511143758.GB11330@kokopelli.hydra>

On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:47:52AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> 
> One thing that did not cross my mind prior was regarding the comments
> Chad made, use in media other than within the programming scope itself.

I think that's an important consideration that most programmers overlook.

One of the greatest benefits of open source software is the availability
of the code for viewing by people who want to *learn*.  To use licenses
that make it difficult to include code in a single instructional work
distributed under the terms of a single license seems extremely
short-sighted to me.

Even if you don't think your code will ever be used in such a way, code
that *incorporates* yours may some day be suitable for such a purpose,
and it would be nice if the license you choose lends itself to such use
in the future.


> 
> FYI, almost all of my apps are for systems/network management and
> automation. I've written an application that bridges our wireless
> hotspots to our payment bank site (the bank supplied me a Perl module),
> through to radius, and with an expiry method to automatically remove the
> users so that the entire process is hands off.

The bank's Perl module may well impose constraints on how you can license
your code, in addition to any restrictions that may exist as a result of
employment agreements and contracts, at least if the module ends up being
part of, or a source of necessary functionality for, your code.


> 
> Most of my code would have to be changed to make it generic and not so
> site specific before being put out there. Being that I'm not really a
> programmer, having my code out there for peer review would make it much,
> much better if it was useful. (I'd probably be on the receiving end of
> finger pointing and laughing, but that's ok ;)

That's a great attitude.  I wish you the best of luck in coming to an
equitable and satisfying decision about licensing, and in future coding
efforts.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Mike Maples, as quoted by James Gleick:  "My job is to get a fair share
of the software applications market, and to me that's 100 percent."
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From spawk at acm.poly.edu  Mon May 11 14:44:51 2009
From: spawk at acm.poly.edu (Boris Kochergin)
Date: Mon May 11 14:45:00 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A083356.6020100@acm.poly.edu>

By default, ATA disks are assigned numbers based on the ATA controller 
they are on, and whether they are primary or secondary on the 
controller. For example, the primary disk on the first controller would 
be ad0, the secondary disk on the first controller would be ad1, the 
primary disk on the second controller would be ad2, etc. This is the 
ATA_STATIC_ID kernel option. I expect that there are two ATA controllers 
before the one your disk is on. You may confirm this by running 
"atacontrol list".

-Boris

Saifi Khan wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
> identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.
>
> Here is the PCI information
>
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e1)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
> 08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
>
> How does the labelling logic work ? 
>
>
> thanks
> Saifi.
> _______________________________________________
> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>   
From jamesoff at gmail.com  Mon May 11 14:56:15 2009
From: jamesoff at gmail.com (James Seward)
Date: Mon May 11 14:56:22 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <200905111630.23123.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
	<200905111630.23123.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
Message-ID: <720051dc0905110734h387d39cbm9ff969336fe9d0fa@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jonathan McKeown <j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> wrote:
> Your BIOS is reporting two IDE interfaces, each of which could have a master
> and slave disk drive, so ad0-3 are reserved for those four drives, meaning
> SATA starts at ad4.
>
> Some BIOSes let you change this.

Or you can take "option ATA_STATIC_ID" out of your kernel config.

/JMS
From rlopes at cern.ch  Mon May 11 15:19:20 2009
From: rlopes at cern.ch (RAUL H C LOPES)
Date: Mon May 11 15:19:27 2009
Subject: Sun E250
In-Reply-To: <1242050567.2053.225.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>
References: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
	<1242050567.2053.225.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>
Message-ID: <4A0841FD.6070502@cern.ch>

Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 10:27 +0100, RAUL H C LOPES wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd like 
>> to
>>     
>
> Try a LiveCD on it?  Also, does the Storedge A1000 require a special
> RAID controller or does it appear on the onboard HBA as a logical
> volume?
>
> In my experience, Sun has a limited set of RAID cards, but most RAIDs
> are DAS with a management interface (Ethernet mostly) 
>
> ~BAS
>
>   
Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

No. the A1000 does not require any special RAID controller.

Freebsd 7.2 is freezing after message:
  Jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0078000


I tried boot both with "bootonly" and "install" CDs.

raul

From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Mon May 11 15:55:02 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Mon May 11 15:55:08 2009
Subject: boot0 installation not permitted in single slice config
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905112125010.6538@localhost>

Hi all:

Trying to install the 'boot0' boot manager on the MBR, from the
Fixit# command prompt as

Fixit# boot0cfg -v -B -o noupdate /dev/ad4

the response is:
boot0cfg: write_mbr: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted.

i've configured a single slice for the entire disk as
Fixit# fdisk -B -I /dev/ad4

Is it that by default the sector 0 is taken as the start point
if the entire disk is configured with a single slice ?


thanks
Saifi.
From ricardo.souza at cmtsp.com.br  Mon May 11 15:58:37 2009
From: ricardo.souza at cmtsp.com.br (Ricardo Augusto de Souza)
Date: Mon May 11 15:58:44 2009
Subject: RES: Cant setup carp as BACKUP
In-Reply-To: <E85141A51657B14A981D1FF0E65F72465DB8A1FF7E@EXVS04.corpmail.net>
References: <E85141A51657B14A981D1FF0E65F72465DB8A1FF7E@EXVS04.corpmail.net>
Message-ID: <E85141A51657B14A981D1FF0E65F72465DB8A1FFEB@EXVS04.corpmail.net>

Anyone know how do i 'force' a carp to be backup?
I set a advskew higher than the master but it comes up as master.
;(

-----Mensagem original-----
De: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] Em nome de Ricardo Augusto de Souza
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 11 de maio de 2009 10:46
Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Assunto: Cant setup carp as BACKUP

Hi,

i have 2 servers running FreeBSD 7.1 on IBM 3550.
I configured 2 carp: internal and external carps.

Internal carp is working fine, but external one are MASTER on both servers.

Trinity# cat rc.conf|grep carp
cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1"
ifconfig_carp1="up 10.100.0.119/24 vhid 2 pass fw_cmt123"
ifconfig_carp2="up 200.143.111.113/28 vhid 1 pass fw_cmt123"
#


carp1: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 10.100.0.119 netmask 0xffffff00
        carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 0
ng1: flags=88d1<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,NOARP,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1460
        inet 172.16.0.1 --> 172.16.0.2 netmask 0xffffffff
carp2: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 200.143.111.113 netmask 0xfffffff0
        carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 0


Ajax# cat rc.conf |grep carp
cloned_interfaces="carp0 carp1"
#ifconfig_carp0="up 200.143.111.113/28 vhid 1 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123"
ifconfig_carp2="vhid 1 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123 200.143.111.113/28"
ifconfig_carp1="up 10.100.0.119/24 vhid 2 advskew 100 pass fw_cmt123"
Ajax#

carp1: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 10.100.0.119 netmask 0xffffff00
        carp: BACKUP vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 100
carp2: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING> metric 0 mtu 1500
        inet 200.143.111.113 netmask 0xfffffff0
        carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 100
Ajax#

How do i set carp2 on Ajax to be BACKUP?

AT this configuration,  most packets to 200.143.111.113 are going to Trinity and some going to Ajax.

Thanks


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From mister.olli at googlemail.com  Mon May 11 16:17:01 2009
From: mister.olli at googlemail.com (Mister Olli)
Date: Mon May 11 16:17:14 2009
Subject: Assign IP address and hostname via kernel parameter
In-Reply-To: <57A9FCBA-CBCB-45D2-9B95-5E5DBC0DB964@gid.co.uk>
References: <1241623255.12407.6.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>
	<57A9FCBA-CBCB-45D2-9B95-5E5DBC0DB964@gid.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1242058599.25870.26.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net>

Hi,

I had a short look on google for this parameters, and from my
understanding the NFS diskless client is using the informations out of
it to set the appropriate settings on the network interface.

So no luck when supplying them as kernel parameters.

Oh and btw I'm not sure how to setup kernel options. Normally this is
done in 'loader.conf', but since para-virtualized xen does start the
kernel directly there's no way to do this via loader.conf.

Does anyone have some idea or hints how to solve this problem?

Regards,
---
Mr. Olli

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 17:52 +0100, Bob Bishop wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 6 May 2009, at 16:20, Mister Olli wrote:
> 
> > is there a way to configure IP address and hostname on freebsd systems
> > via kernel command line parameters? [etc]
> 
> When running diskless, the loader sets kernel variables like:
> 
> boot.netif.gateway="192.168.198.1"
> boot.netif.hwaddr="00:15:17:47:14:fc"
> boot.netif.ip="192.168.198.8"
> boot.netif.netmask="255.255.255.0"
> 
> to values obtained from BOOTP or DHCP, and the right things happen. I  
> guess you could just set these in loader.conf or at the loader prompt.
> 
> --
> Bob Bishop
> rb@gid.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> 

From jerrymc at msu.edu  Mon May 11 16:52:44 2009
From: jerrymc at msu.edu (Jerry McAllister)
Date: Mon May 11 16:52:51 2009
Subject: boot0 installation not permitted in single slice config
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905112125010.6538@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905112125010.6538@localhost>
Message-ID: <20090511165130.GA32142@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:27:34PM +0000, Saifi Khan wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> Trying to install the 'boot0' boot manager on the MBR, from the
> Fixit# command prompt as
> 
> Fixit# boot0cfg -v -B -o noupdate /dev/ad4
> 
> the response is:
> boot0cfg: write_mbr: /dev/ad4: Operation not permitted.
> 
> i've configured a single slice for the entire disk as
> Fixit# fdisk -B -I /dev/ad4
> 
> Is it that by default the sector 0 is taken as the start point
> if the entire disk is configured with a single slice ?

Use fdisk.    fdisk -B ad4

The fdisk commane you indicate does all you need.
  eg:

  fdisk -B -I ad4

does what you want and  you do not need the boot0cfg

////jerry

> 
> 
> thanks
> Saifi.
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Date: Mon May 11 17:01:45 2009
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From jochen at daten-chaos.de  Mon May 11 17:22:31 2009
From: jochen at daten-chaos.de (Jochen Neumeister)
Date: Mon May 11 17:22:42 2009
Subject: Sun E250
In-Reply-To: <4A0841FD.6070502@cern.ch>
References: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
	<1242050567.2053.225.camel@soundwave.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com>
	<4A0841FD.6070502@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <20090511192220.7fb70c80@donald.home.jochen-neumeister.de>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:19:25 +0100
RAUL H C LOPES <rlopes@cern.ch> wrote:

> Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 10:27 +0100, RAUL H C LOPES wrote:
> >   
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd
> >> like to
> >>     
> >
> > Try a LiveCD on it?  Also, does the Storedge A1000 require a special
> > RAID controller or does it appear on the onboard HBA as a logical
> > volume?
> >
> > In my experience, Sun has a limited set of RAID cards, but most
> > RAIDs are DAS with a management interface (Ethernet mostly) 
> >
> > ~BAS
> >
> >   
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> No. the A1000 does not require any special RAID controller.
> 
> Freebsd 7.2 is freezing after message:
>   Jumping to kernel entry at 0xc0078000
> 

The same to me. I have a Sun Enterprise 250 to, and on the same place
it freeze to.
I test it with FreeBSD 6.2, 7.1, 7.2 and 8 current (all sparc64)

Here the output from a FreeBSD 7.1 sparc64 boot:

Rebooting with command: boot cdrom
Boot devices: /pc@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:f File and args:

>> FreeBSD/sparc64 boot block
      Boot path:       /pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:a
      Boot loader:    /boot/loader
Consoles: Open Firmware console

FreeBSD/sparc64 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.0
(root@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu, Thu Jan 1 08:47:00 UTC 2009)
bootpath="/pci@1f,4000/scsi@3/disk@6,0:a"
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
/boot/kernel/kernel data=0x739b48+0x74b38 syms=[0x8+0x7d058+0x8+0x6bd34]
/
Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]...
jumping to kernel entry at 0xc007000.


No RAID controller in the SUN too.

> 
> I tried boot both with "bootonly" and "install" CDs.
> 
> raul
> 
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From gahr at FreeBSD.org  Mon May 11 17:37:05 2009
From: gahr at FreeBSD.org (Pietro Cerutti)
Date: Mon May 11 17:37:12 2009
Subject: fdisk: class not found
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111115330.5038@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111115330.5038@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A0861D9.4050308@FreeBSD.org>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Saifi Khan wrote:
| Hi all:
Hi Saifi,

| Trying to write a partition table using fdisk supplied in the
| installation DVD of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot.
|
| Should we write new partition table ? [n] y
| fdisk: Class not found
|
| When i again run 'fdisk' it should the old partition table.
|
| What exactly does 'Class not found' mean ?

This comes from geom. See geom(8).

|
| There is no mention of the 'Class' in fdisk man page at
| http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=fdisk&sektion=8
|
| Can the experienced BSD guys explain ?
|
|
| thanks
| Saifi.


- --
Pietro Cerutti
gahr@FreeBSD.org

PGP Public Key:
http://gahr.ch/pgp

+-----------------+
| How do  you get |
|that backwards b?|
+-----------------+

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From mail at ozzmosis.com  Mon May 11 19:07:04 2009
From: mail at ozzmosis.com (andrew clarke)
Date: Mon May 11 19:07:12 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <200905112317.17225.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<20090511130405.GB20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>
	<200905112317.17225.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Message-ID: <20090511190700.GB9749@ozzmosis.com>

On Mon 2009-05-11 23:17:09 UTC+0930, Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) wrote:

> > Recreating a disk - slice/parttion/newfs - is one of the main things
> > to do under a fixit.   You should have fdisk, bsdlabel and newfs
> > there as well as restore for sucking dumps back in.
> 
> Depends what sort of fixit you have.
> A holographic shell won't have it, but the others will.

That reminds me...

Can someone explain to me why it's called a "holographic shell"?
From freebsd at optiksecurite.com  Mon May 11 19:19:40 2009
From: freebsd at optiksecurite.com (Martin Turgeon)
Date: Mon May 11 19:19:47 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
In-Reply-To: <20090506150933.d0ef0178.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com>
	<20090506150933.d0ef0178.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <4A087A57.1050202@optiksecurite.com>

Bill Moran a ?crit :
> In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using 
>> FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and 
>> to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to 
>> update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another 
>> up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point 
>> the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs 
>> mount.
>>
>> Is someone using something like this?
>>
>> Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without 
>> down time?
>>
>> Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server 
>> running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 
>> controler 2x146G 15K)?
>>
>> Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)
> 
> I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's
> horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you
> forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!)
> 
> If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want
> to run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to
> keep the data in sync.  That way you just switch which DB is
> master, then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat.
> 

Hi and thanks for your reply. Sorry for the late response...

I thought about the risk of the procedure and that's why I asked here 
hoping that someone had a better idea!

Do you mean to have another jail with an up to date slave MySQL, get it 
in sync with the master and then switch the config file of the slave to 
make it a master, restart the new MySQL, change the config so that the 
apps are connecting to the new DB?

Martin
From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Mon May 11 19:34:23 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Mon May 11 19:34:30 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
In-Reply-To: <4A087A57.1050202@optiksecurite.com>
References: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com>
	<20090506150933.d0ef0178.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<4A087A57.1050202@optiksecurite.com>
Message-ID: <20090511153420.439eed75.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:

> Bill Moran a ?crit :
> > In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:
> > 
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be using 
> >> FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of MySQL 5.0 and 
> >> to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My objective is to be able to 
> >> update MySQL without down time. My objective would be to create another 
> >> up to date MySQL jail and when I'm ready to make the switch, just point 
> >> the new jail to the data outside the jail using something like a nullfs 
> >> mount.
> >>
> >> Is someone using something like this?
> >>
> >> Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server without 
> >> down time?
> >>
> >> Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL server 
> >> running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID on a PERC5 
> >> controler 2x146G 15K)?
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)
> > 
> > I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's
> > horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you
> > forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!)
> > 
> > If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want
> > to run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to
> > keep the data in sync.  That way you just switch which DB is
> > master, then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat.
> > 
> 
> Hi and thanks for your reply. Sorry for the late response...
> 
> I thought about the risk of the procedure and that's why I asked here 
> hoping that someone had a better idea!
> 
> Do you mean to have another jail with an up to date slave MySQL, get it 
> in sync with the master and then switch the config file of the slave to 
> make it a master, restart the new MySQL, change the config so that the 
> apps are connecting to the new DB?

Yeah.  That's what we do here (although we're using PostgreSQL/Slony).
It works on a number of levels.  In our case, each database is on a
separate physical server, so we can move the master database to a
different server, then do a complete OS/software upgrade with no
downtime to the application (ok, there _is_ some downtime, it takes
about 60 seconds to move everything around, but that amount of
downtime is hardly even noticeable to a client, and our front-end
code is designed to wait it out and continuously reconnect, so if
the user is just patient, the site eventually comes up)

I'm not nearly as familiar with MySQL's replication solution as I am
with PostgreSQL's, but Slony allows us to have multiple versions of
PostgreSQL running, so we can do our upgrading a little at a time as
the situation allows.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From eitanadlerlist at gmail.com  Mon May 11 19:39:57 2009
From: eitanadlerlist at gmail.com (Eitan Adler)
Date: Mon May 11 19:40:14 2009
Subject: Installation - VT4
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A087A1D.9060309@gmail.com>

When you install freeBSD via sysinstall you could switch to VT2 which
displays what files it is currently installing and you could switch to
VT4 which displays some kind of prompt. What exactly is that prompt? sh?
 What utilities does it have access to?  When would you want to use it?

-- 
Eitan Adler
"Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave."
-Jakob Nielsen
From tajudd at gmail.com  Mon May 11 19:52:52 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Mon May 11 19:53:00 2009
Subject: Installation - VT4
In-Reply-To: <4A087A1D.9060309@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A087A1D.9060309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905111252j9081ecdp42a743a22d397387@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Eitan Adler <eitanadlerlist@gmail.com>wrote:

> When you install freeBSD via sysinstall you could switch to VT2 which
> displays what files it is currently installing and you could switch to
> VT4 which displays some kind of prompt. What exactly is that prompt? sh?
>  What utilities does it have access to?  When would you want to use it?
>
> --
> Eitan Adler
> "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave."
> -Jakob Nielsen
>


ttyv4 is the holographic shell otherwise mentioned.  It only has access to
built-in commands (such as echo, cd, etc)

It's really limited and so far, haven't found a use for it yet.  I think it
was a "new thing" when sysinstall was out and was useful back then.  Since
then, we've kept it and just haven't done much to it.


If you find a use, share it.
From doug at polands.org  Mon May 11 19:53:09 2009
From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland)
Date: Mon May 11 19:53:23 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
In-Reply-To: <4A087A57.1050202@optiksecurite.com>
References: <4A01DBCE.9070304@optiksecurite.com>
	<20090506150933.d0ef0178.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
	<4A087A57.1050202@optiksecurite.com>
Message-ID: <aa01e7fed4211ce304f5e2b8a40c3d39.squirrel@email.polands.org>


On Mon, May 11, 2009 14:19, Martin Turgeon wrote:
> Bill Moran a ?crit :
>> In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be
>>> using FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of
>>> MySQL 5.0 and to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My
>>> objective is to be able to update MySQL without down time. My
>>> objective would be to create another up to date MySQL jail and
>>> when I'm ready to make the switch, just point the new jail to the
>>> data outside the jail using something like a nullfs mount.
>>>
>>> Is someone using something like this?
>>>
>>> Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server
>>> without down time?
>>>
>>> Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL
>>> server running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID
>>> on a PERC5 controler 2x146G 15K)?
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)
>>
>> I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's
>> horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you
>> forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!)
>>
>> If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want to
>> run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to keep
>> the data in sync.  That way you just switch which DB is master,
>> then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat.
>>
>
> Hi and thanks for your reply. Sorry for the late response...
>
> I thought about the risk of the procedure and that's why I asked here
>  hoping that someone had a better idea!
>
> Do you mean to have another jail with an up to date slave MySQL, get
> it in sync with the master and then switch the config file of the
> slave to make it a master, restart the new MySQL, change the config
> so that the apps are connecting to the new DB?
>
You may want to research using MySQL in "dual-master" mode.  In this
architecture, each MySQL instance is both a master and a slave.  Some
care must be taken in the configuration but is well-documented and
googalable.  I recently deployed such a configuration using a jail for
each instance.  Upgrading from 5.1.33 to 5.1.34 was a snap and there
was no down time.  In my case, I use a DNS CNAME to identify the
"master" instance that all clients access.


-- 
Regards,
Doug

From doug at polands.org  Mon May 11 19:53:10 2009
From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland)
Date: Mon May 11 19:53:25 2009
Subject: Advices for a jailed MySQL server
Message-ID: <4de4835defb78776458c3ec9a5fc88fb.squirrel@email.polands.org>



On Mon, May 11, 2009 14:19, Martin Turgeon wrote:
> Bill Moran a ?crit :
>> In response to Martin Turgeon <freebsd@optiksecurite.com>:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm starting to build a new dedicated MySQL server. I will be
>>> using FreeBSD 7.2-REL. My plan is to jail the latest version of
>>> MySQL 5.0 and to put the MySQL data outside the jail. My
>>> objective is to be able to update MySQL without down time. My
>>> objective would be to create another up to date MySQL jail and
>>> when I'm ready to make the switch, just point the new jail to the
>>> data outside the jail using something like a nullfs mount.
>>>
>>> Is someone using something like this?
>>>
>>> Did someone have any advice about how to update a MySQL server
>>> without down time?
>>>
>>> Did someone have any advice on how to tune a dedicated MySQL
>>> server running FreeBSD 7.2 (Dual core Xeon, 4G RAM, mirror RAID
>>> on a PERC5 controler 2x146G 15K)?
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone for sharing your precious knowledge :)
>>
>> I expect that what you're trying to do will work, however it's
>> horrifically error-prone during the upgrade procedure (what if you
>> forget to stop the first MySQL before you start the new one!)
>>
>> If you need to do anything zero-downtime, then you probably want to
>> run multiple MySQL instances and use database replication to keep
>> the data in sync.  That way you just switch which DB is master,
>> then upgrade the slave ... rinse/repeat.
>>
>
> Hi and thanks for your reply. Sorry for the late response...
>
> I thought about the risk of the procedure and that's why I asked here
>  hoping that someone had a better idea!
>
> Do you mean to have another jail with an up to date slave MySQL, get
> it in sync with the master and then switch the config file of the
> slave to make it a master, restart the new MySQL, change the config
> so that the apps are connecting to the new DB?
>
You may want to research using MySQL in "dual-master" mode.  In this
architecture, each MySQL instance is both a master and a slave.  Some
care must be taken in the configuration but is well-documented and
googalable.  I recently deployed such a configuration using a jail for
each instance.  Upgrading from 5.1.33 to 5.1.34 was a snap and there
was no down time.  In my case, I use a DNS CNAME to identify the
"master" instance that all clients access.


-- 
Regards,
Doug



-- 
Regards,
Doug

From kientzle at freebsd.org  Mon May 11 20:00:01 2009
From: kientzle at freebsd.org (Tim Kientzle)
Date: Mon May 11 20:00:08 2009
Subject: single SATA disk and yet identified as 'ad4'
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111935570.6330@localhost>
Message-ID: <4A0883BC.9050505@freebsd.org>

Saifi Khan wrote:
> 
> The system has just one SATA disk and yet bootloader process
> identified it as 'ad4'. Ideally, it should be ad1.
> 
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 01)

The ide interface gets ad0, ad1, ad2, ad3,
the sata controller numbering starts with ad4.

Tim
From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk  Mon May 11 20:01:12 2009
From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman)
Date: Mon May 11 20:01:20 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <20090511190700.GB9749@ozzmosis.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>	<200905111545.11696.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>	<20090511130405.GB20271@gizmo.acns.msu.edu>	<200905112317.17225.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<20090511190700.GB9749@ozzmosis.com>
Message-ID: <4A0883F9.8090409@infracaninophile.co.uk>

andrew clarke wrote:
> On Mon 2009-05-11 23:17:09 UTC+0930, Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au) wrote:

>> A holographic shell won't have it, but the others will.
> 
> That reminds me...
> 
> Can someone explain to me why it's called a "holographic shell"?

It's an 'emergency holographic shell' actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_(Star_Trek)

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
                                                  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
                                                  Kent, CT11 9PW

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From nightrecon at verizon.net  Mon May 11 20:09:55 2009
From: nightrecon at verizon.net (Michael Powell)
Date: Mon May 11 20:10:04 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>
	<200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111941340.6352@localhost>
Message-ID: <gua0m3$fgd$1@ger.gmane.org>

Saifi Khan wrote:

> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> 
>> >
>> > Putting out a monthly snapshot is nice and if the people are
>> > going to not find info about 'Fixit#' and commands in the
>> > legendary handbook, that is not very helpful.
>> 
>> FreeBSD doesn't work this way, you are trying to fit FreeBSD into your
>> Gentoo way of thinking. Obviously this causes pain, please stop.
>> 
> 
> i'll be highly obliged, if you could share some nuggets of
> wisdom on 'the FreeBSD way' ! Please.
> 
> 
Don't know about 'wisdom', per se, from me... But consider this:

FreeBSD software development is a tree with 3 main branches from the trunk.
They are -Release, -Stable, and -Current (aka HEAD).

-Release is what a newcomer should use, or if used in a production
environment. The -Release branch does receive ongoing maintenance in the
form of security updates. 

-Stable is where newer software from -Current (HEAD) is merged backwards.
An example would be a driver bug that was fixed in 8.0-Current would be
made available in 7.2-Stable. The main purpose for using -Stable is for
when some specific problem you are having in 7.2-Release has been fixed,
and updating from -Release to -Stable is how you go about obtaining the fix.

-Current (aka HEAD) is the place where active development on the next
version takes place. For example, the code that is in -Current today will
eventually be FreeBSD-8. You would run this if you were an active developer
knowing full well that it could have deficiencies at any given time. The
work is fluid and is known to break, with the idea that only programmers who
can assist in fixing what breaks should be using it.

A Snapshot is a frozen in time snapshot of -Current. Therefore, it is not
what a newcomer or regular user should be using. The -Release install can
always be updated to -Stable or -Current at a later time should it be 
necessary.

-Mike
 



From rwmaillists at googlemail.com  Mon May 11 21:07:34 2009
From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW)
Date: Mon May 11 21:07:42 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <gua0m3$fgd$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<4A07E966.60503@unsane.co.uk>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111808560.6175@localhost>
	<200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111941340.6352@localhost>
	<gua0m3$fgd$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20090511220728.497ea7d0@gumby.homeunix.com>

On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:11:08 -0400
Michael Powell <nightrecon@verizon.net> wrote:


> -Stable is where newer software from -Current (HEAD) is merged
> backwards. An example would be a driver bug that was fixed in
> 8.0-Current would be made available in 7.2-Stable. The main purpose
> for using -Stable is for when some specific problem you are having in
> 7.2-Release has been fixed, and updating from -Release to -Stable is
> how you go about obtaining the fix.

Also bear in mind that only the base system is branched, not the ports
tree. And most user-visible change takes place in ports.
From lconrad at Go2France.com  Mon May 11 21:22:48 2009
From: lconrad at Go2France.com (Len Conrad)
Date: Mon May 11 21:22:56 2009
Subject: 4 GB RAM hardware but only 3.4 GB real/avail
Message-ID: <200905112305.AA963444956@mail.Go2France.com>

I'm sure this has been answered but I can't Google it.

Where's the 600 MB gone to?

Len

From wmoran at potentialtech.com  Mon May 11 21:25:29 2009
From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran)
Date: Mon May 11 21:25:38 2009
Subject: 4 GB RAM hardware but only 3.4 GB real/avail
In-Reply-To: <200905112305.AA963444956@mail.Go2France.com>
References: <200905112305.AA963444956@mail.Go2France.com>
Message-ID: <20090511172526.da28cd61.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

In response to "Len Conrad" <lconrad@Go2France.com>:

> I'm sure this has been answered but I can't Google it.

Really?  This question has been asked a gazillion times ...

> Where's the 600 MB gone to?

i386 arch can only see 4G total, but much hardware reserves the
last 500M or so for special hardware addressing.

The best option it so move to using amd64/EM64T arch, which doesn't
have this problem.

-- 
Bill Moran
http://www.potentialtech.com
http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/
From cwhiteh at onetel.com  Mon May 11 21:37:15 2009
From: cwhiteh at onetel.com (Chris Whitehouse)
Date: Mon May 11 21:37:22 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <3a142e750905090742i4bf80d45n323a81d3e18223a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>	<4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>	<3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>	<4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905090742i4bf80d45n323a81d3e18223a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A089A87.8040800@onetel.com>

Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 5/8/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>>> On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an
>>>> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot,
>>>> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver. Still
>>>> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.
>>>>
>>>> Should I give up or are there other things to try?
>>> Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or
>>> textdump)
>> `fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a
>> crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb
>>
>> I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as
>> my recent build world.
>>
>> I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko.
>>
>> I've got
>> wlans_ndis0="wlan0"
>> in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card.
>>
>> The interrupt storm starts when I do
>>
>> # ifconfig wlan0 <ip addr>
>>
>> The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig.
>>
>> I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel
>> (nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot
>> messages, nothing in /var/crash).
>> I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if
>> required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format?
>>
>> I built a kernel with the following changes
>>
>> #cpu            I486_CPU
>> #cpu            I586_CPU
>>
>> #makeoptions    DEBUG=-g                # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
> 
> Oh nooooo, crash dump is useless with that option commented in kernel.
> [You can alway just look at documentation installed in /usr/share/doc/,
> for example developers handbook]
> 
>> symbols
>>
>> #options        KDB                     # Enable kernel debugger support.
>> #options        DDB                     # Support DDB.
>> #options        GDB                     # Support remote GDB.
>> #options        INVARIANTS              # Enable calls of extra sanity
>> checking
>> #options        INVARIANT_SUPPORT       # Extra sanity checks of
>> internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
>> #options        WITNESS                 # Enable checks to detect
>> deadlocks and cycles
>> #options        WITNESS_SKIPSPIN        # Don't run witness on spinlocks
>> for speed
> Both KDB, DDB, GDB, WITNESS and INVARIANTS are usefull in debugging kernel.
> So please uncomment all that debugging support.
> After all you can build two kernels, and use boot loader command or nextboot(8)
> 
I tried with GENERIC and with my no-debug kernel. The panic happened 
with both but there was no crashdump with the GENERIC. All other 
settings were the same, eg no change to rc.conf. My setup seems to be 
right according to the developers handbook section 10.1.

Is there something special I have to do with -CURRENT to get the crashdump?

>>
>>
>> I got on ttyv0:
>>
>> interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source
>>
>> repeated about 20 times then
>>
>> Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock
> 
> Heh, thats is bug, now only remains to find where it is caused.
> 
I got this screendump (copied and pasted) from ttyv0 before the panic 
with GENERIC. It was repeated maybe 20 times then dropped to db> prompt.

interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source
Waiting on "KeWFS" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
exclusive sleep mutex ndis0 (network driver) r = 0 (0xc34fd06c) locked @ 
/usr/sr
c/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c:3432
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c40c0b,d40e3ac0,c089d245,c3888072,d68,...) at 
db_trace_s
elf_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c3888072,d68,ffffffff,c0eca774,d40e3af8,...) at 
kdb_backtrace+0x29

_witness_debugger(c0c42f9c,d40e3b0c,4,1,0,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
witness_warn(5,c38a24d0,c0c37d7c,c389ea81,d40e3b3c,...) at 
witness_warn+0x1fd
_cv_timedwait(d40e3b6c,c38a24d0,1389,ffffffff,c38cafc8,...) at 
_cv_timedwait+0xc
6
KeWaitForSingleObject(c38cafc0,0,0,0,d40e3bbc,...) at 
KeWaitForSingleObject+0x1b
0
ndis_set_info(c34fd000,d01011a,0,d40e3bf8,c37b2524,...) at 
ndis_set_info+0x1c8
ndis_scan_start(c3a14000,0,c0c5286b,36e,80246,...) at ndis_scan_start+0xe8
scan_task(c3a04800,1,c0c42357,54,c38c485c,...) at scan_task+0x150
taskqueue_run(c38c4840,c38c485c,0,c0c33ff4,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b
taskqueue_thread_loop(c3a14074,d40e3d38,c0c39438,333,c0d88ca0,...) at 
taskqueue_
thread_loop+0x68
fork_exit(c08963e0,c3a14074,d40e3d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
--- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xd40e3d70, ebp = 0 ---
interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source

>> panic: sleeping thread
>> cpuid = 0
>> Uptime:17m26s
>> Physical memory: 434 MB
>> Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16
>> Dump complete
>>
>> (The above typed by hand)
>>
>> Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer
>> and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been
>> fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and
>> I don't understand it :)
> 
> You can always ask me off list for anything that you don't understand.
thanks :)
> 

From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Mon May 11 22:14:26 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Mon May 11 22:14:32 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

>    I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor
> compatible with FreeBSD.

yes. FreeBSD/amd64

> Thanks a lot..........
>
> -- 
> Renato A. Rocabo
> mobile: 09208095152
> email: csergetov@gmail.com
> ym: carlos_sergetov@yahoo.com
> skype: rrocabo
>
> If you don't write it down, then it never happen....
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From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Mon May 11 22:16:03 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Mon May 11 22:16:09 2009
Subject: Sun E250
In-Reply-To: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
References: <4A07EF76.4040801@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120014220.9931@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

isn't it external disk array connected with SCSI connector?

if so - it looks like SCSI disk(s) to the computer and is supported by 
FreeBSD disk driver

On Mon, 11 May 2009, RAUL H C LOPES wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We've got a Sun server E250 with a disk array Storedge A1000. We'd like to 
> have Freebsd running on it. I see from the
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/hardware-sparc64.html#AEN30
>
> that freebsd runs on E250, but it is not clear for me whether it supports the 
> disk array. Would you know of anyone running FreeBSD on that storage?
>
> Thanks, Raul
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
From psteele at maxiscale.com  Mon May 11 22:19:07 2009
From: psteele at maxiscale.com (Peter Steele)
Date: Mon May 11 22:19:14 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
Message-ID: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>

Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work? 

From tajudd at gmail.com  Mon May 11 22:49:15 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Mon May 11 22:49:22 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Peter Steele <psteele@maxiscale.com> wrote:

> Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
> system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work?
>

Search the archives.  The question of Wake-on-LAN has been around for a
while.  I typically respond.

Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has
no Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has
Wake-on-LAN capabilities.

I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel
provides such excellent documentation and/or drivers for FreeBSD.

Please search the archives.
From pgiessel at mac.com  Mon May 11 22:54:13 2009
From: pgiessel at mac.com (Peter Giessel)
Date: Mon May 11 22:54:20 2009
Subject: 4 GB RAM hardware but only 3.4 GB real/avail
In-Reply-To: <20090511172526.da28cd61.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References: <200905112305.AA963444956@mail.Go2France.com>
	<20090511172526.da28cd61.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Message-ID: <160278566753602359077573106687879407718-Webmail@me.com>

On Monday, May 11, 2009, at 01:25PM, "Bill Moran" <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:
>In response to "Len Conrad" <lconrad@Go2France.com>:
>
>> I'm sure this has been answered but I can't Google it.
>
>Really?  This question has been asked a gazillion times ...

Agreeing with Bill Moran:
http://www.google.com/search?q=+4+GB+RAM+hardware+but+only+3.4+GB+real%2Favail

The first link takes me to:
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html

Which appears to be largely Windows specific, but very detailed if you are looking for a
more in-depth explanation and also says:
"To be perfectly clear, this isn't a Windows problem-- it's an x86 hardware problem.
From wblock at wonkity.com  Mon May 11 22:55:39 2009
From: wblock at wonkity.com (Warren Block)
Date: Mon May 11 22:55:48 2009
Subject: Booting question
In-Reply-To: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e321688c0905101731l69a0fc3yc28d4cf3481fb2c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111653270.7689@wonkity.com>

On Sun, 10 May 2009, Michel Di Croci wrote:

> When I boot, it takes about 5 mins before being up and running. Since it's
> my first FreeBSD, I didn't thought there was an issue, but I think there's
> one ;)
>
> I have a P4 2.8 HT which is too bad computer and I really think the issue is
> in freeBSD and the Giant Locked and stuff like that. The computer stays in a
> waiting "mode" for about 3 minutes or something like that. It's unbearable,
> however, since I reboot like once in a month, it's not that bad ;) But I'm
> still wondering why it's so slow.

It would help to know what shows on the screen.  But my first guess is 
sendmail trying to get a FQDN and timing out.

What happens if you press ctrl-c when it's waiting?

Second guess is that you have some external USB device that your BIOS is 
trying to use for booting.  Without knowing what the screen shows, it's 
hard to say.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
From wblock at wonkity.com  Mon May 11 22:56:34 2009
From: wblock at wonkity.com (Warren Block)
Date: Mon May 11 22:56:42 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

>>    I'm new with FreeBSD setup. Just want to as if Core 2 Duo processor
>> compatible with FreeBSD.
>
> yes. FreeBSD/amd64

Or i386.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
From psteele at maxiscale.com  Mon May 11 23:04:21 2009
From: psteele at maxiscale.com (Peter Steele)
Date: Mon May 11 23:04:28 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19092079.2261242083020759.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>



> Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support. The OS puts the NIC in a mode at shutdown that >allows Wake-on-LAN to work. FreeBSD has no Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has >Wake-on-LAN capabilities. 
> 
>I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel provides such excellent documentation and/or >drivers for FreeBSD. 
> 
>Please search the archives. 

I did do a search before posting and I wasn't very encouraged by what I found. You've confirmed my findings, unfortunately. 

From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Mon May 11 23:05:51 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Mon May 11 23:05:57 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120104460.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

>> 
>> yes. FreeBSD/amd64
>
> Or i386.
if you want limited system - yes
>
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
>
>
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Mon May 11 23:06:35 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Mon May 11 23:06:42 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105020.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD system?

wake on lan works before any OS is started, actually before computer is 
powered up - as it's made to power up computer by LAN
From wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl  Mon May 11 23:07:03 2009
From: wojtek at wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (Wojciech Puchar)
Date: Mon May 11 23:07:09 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
	<ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105540.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

> Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
> the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has
isn't it BIOS option?
From doconnor at gsoft.com.au  Mon May 11 23:10:13 2009
From: doconnor at gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor)
Date: Mon May 11 23:10:21 2009
Subject: howto sidestep sysinstall during installation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111941340.6352@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111045470.4982@localhost>
	<200905112334.03387.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111941340.6352@localhost>
Message-ID: <200905120840.02575.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>

On Tue, 12 May 2009, Saifi Khan wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> > > Putting out a monthly snapshot is nice and if the people are
> > > going to not find info about 'Fixit#' and commands in the
> > > legendary handbook, that is not very helpful.
> >
> > FreeBSD doesn't work this way, you are trying to fit FreeBSD into
> > your Gentoo way of thinking. Obviously this causes pain, please
> > stop.
>
> i'll be highly obliged, if you could share some nuggets of
> wisdom on 'the FreeBSD way' ! Please.

Like I said, install a release and upgrade that.

You could try finding a -current snap that does work, but it's probably 
going to be quicker to just get the latest 7 release, install and then 
cvsup/csup to HEAD then build & install.

-- 
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
  -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Mon May 11 23:11:22 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Mon May 11 23:11:28 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120104460.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>
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Message-ID: <4ad871310905111611u7045356bn32895b7ae36adb71@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar
<wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes. FreeBSD/amd64
>>
>> Or i386.
>
> if you want limited system - yes
>>

If by 'limited' you mean being able to use nVidia drivers, that's not
very 'limited' to me.

-- 
Glen Barber
From fbsdlilly at gmail.com  Mon May 11 23:35:02 2009
From: fbsdlilly at gmail.com (mojo fms)
Date: Mon May 11 23:35:09 2009
Subject: 7.0 -> 7.1 crash every two day
In-Reply-To: <54a3573b09fae93458481c998ad6b538@127.0.0.1>
References: <54a3573b09fae93458481c998ad6b538@127.0.0.1>
Message-ID: <f151ba00905111603h537c7c26l89785f7b61d780f5@mail.gmail.com>

Have you tried: freebsd-update IDS ?  I am assuming you did the
freebsd-update to update the machine but if not maybe run through
mergemaster and another rebuild of the world and kernel to make sure that
none of the files got an error from the build.

On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:51 AM, <mailinglist@modernbiztonsag.org> wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> I've upgraded from source my 7.0-RELEASE to 7.1-RELEASE. It's a general
> purpose server for a small company and it's clients, running web, sql, mail
> and recursive dns. The machine is a Compaq ML350 G2. Version 7.0 was
> running on it for a year now without any problem. After 30 of April I've
> upgraded to 7.1 (I've followed the handbook) and since then nearly every
> two day the machine becomes unreachable except for echorequest. If i try to
> log in in the terminal it just hangs after i give my password.
>
> I'm out of any ideas. Please feel free to ask any more info that I've
> forgotten to provide. Thank You for your help in advance.
>
> Here's the dmesg:
>
> Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
> FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p5 #2: Fri Apr 24 18:44:13 CEST 2009
>    root@lildevil.datawlan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FIREWALL
> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
> CPU: Intel Pentium III (996.85-MHz 686-class CPU)
>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
>
>
> Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
> real memory  = 536854528 (511 MB)
> avail memory = 511340544 (487 MB)
> kbd1 at kbdmux0
> ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
> ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or
> length:        0       0/2 [20070320]
> acpi0: <COMPAQ RACEBAIT> on motherboard
> acpi0: [ITHREAD]
> acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
> unknown: I/O range not supported
> Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x240-0x243 on acpi0
> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
> pci_link0: apparently invalid index 0
> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
> sym0: <1510d> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem
> 0xc6effc00-0xc6efffff,0xc6efe000-0xc6efefff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0
> sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
> sym0: [ITHREAD]
> sym1: <1510d> port 0x2400-0x24ff mem
> 0xc6efdc00-0xc6efdfff,0xc6efc000-0xc6efcfff irq 11 at device 1.1 on pci0
> sym1: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking
> sym1: [ITHREAD]
> fxp0: <Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0x2800-0x283f mem
> 0xc6efb000-0xc6efbfff,0xc6d00000-0xc6dfffff irq 15 at device 2.0 on pci0
> miibus0: <MII bus> on fxp0
> inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> PHY 1 on miibus0
> inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
> fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:ee:d2:d6
> fxp0: [ITHREAD]
> vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0x2c00-0x2cff mem
> 0xc5000000-0xc5ffffff,0xc6cff000-0xc6cfffff at device 3.0 on pci0
> pci0: <base peripheral> at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 15.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> atapci0: <ServerWorks ROSB4 UDMA33 controller> port
> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x3000-0x300f at device 15.1 on pci0
> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata0: [ITHREAD]
> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
> ata1: [ITHREAD]
> pcib1: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
> pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
> ida0: <Compaq Smart Array 431 controller> port 0x4000-0x40ff mem
> 0xc6fff000-0xc6ffffff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci3
> ida0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> ida0: [ITHREAD]
> ida0: drives=1 firm_rev=1.22
> idad0: <Compaq Logical Drive> on ida0
> idad0: 34727MB (71122560 sectors), blocksize=512
> acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> kbd0 at atkbd0
> atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
> fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
> fdc0: [FILTER]
> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
> sio0: <Standard PC COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
> sio0: type 16550A
> sio0: [FILTER]
> sio1: <Standard PC COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
> sio1: type 16550A
> sio1: [FILTER]
> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> pmtimer0 on isa0
> orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
> 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xe8000-0xedfff,0xee000-0xeffff pnpid
> ORM0000 on isa0
> ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
> ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
> ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
> ppbus0: [ITHREAD]
> plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
> plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag
> lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
> lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
> ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> ppc0: [ITHREAD]
> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
> Timecounter "TSC" frequency 996851056 Hz quality 800
> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
> acd0: CDROM <GCR-8523B/1.03> at ata0-master PIO4
> Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider idad0s3 is msdosfs/SYSTEMCFG.
> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/idad0s1a
> WARNING: / was not properly dismounted
> WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted
> WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
> WARNING: /usr/home was not properly dismounted
> /usr/home: mount pending error: blocks 48 files 4
> WARNING: /usr/home/ftp was not properly dismounted
> WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
> /var: mount pending error: blocks 4 files 1
>
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From djuatdelta at gmail.com  Tue May 12 01:18:15 2009
From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood)
Date: Tue May 12 01:18:22 2009
Subject: Reformatting external harddrive
Message-ID: <b6c05a470905111818ja0ddd76yd5742e4fbfa54bf2@mail.gmail.com>

After unsuccessfully trying to reformat my external harddrive on my
linux machine, I'm trying to reformat the disk in FreeBSD.  Frankly, I
just don't know how to do that. Please help me get the disk back to
working order; I don't need to keep any data that is currently on the
disk.

The command

$ /dev/da0

gives the following output:

******* Working on device /dev/da0 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=38913 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=38913 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
    start 63, size 625137282 (305242 Meg), flag 80 (active)
	beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
	end: cyl 0/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 3 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 4 is:
<UNUSED>
From tajudd at gmail.com  Tue May 12 02:07:03 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Tue May 12 02:07:11 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105020.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> 
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105020.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905111906s64dc9592ud40b92918c3af8bb@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Wojciech Puchar <
wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:

>  Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
>> system?
>>
>
> wake on lan works before any OS is started, actually before computer is
> powered up - as it's made to power up computer by LAN
>
>
Like normal, you've completely missed the point.

I will try not to scream at you.

I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode the
NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.

Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider them
magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.

There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.

Wojciech - I get so disappointed, you seem to mislead people more than the
rest.  I strongly encourage you to read into the topics BEFORE you post to
the mailing list.


--TJ
From pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com  Tue May 12 02:35:07 2009
From: pschmehl_lists at tx.rr.com (Paul Schmehl)
Date: Tue May 12 02:35:14 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905111906s64dc9592ud40b92918c3af8bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105020.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<ade45ae90905111906s64dc9592ud40b92918c3af8bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D9C95336FD403876E6364160@Macintosh-2.local>

--On May 11, 2009 8:06:41 PM -0600 Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
> last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode
> the NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.
>
> Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider
> them magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.
>
> There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
> posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.
>

Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki, 
development just started in 8 CURRENT:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan

So unless you're running CURRENT, it doesn't look like you're going to 
have any success trying to get it to work.  Even if you have 8 CURRENT, 
you'll still need to figure out if your NIC is supported yet, or write the 
code yourself if you have that capability.

Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
obvious, my opinions are my own
and not those of my employer.
******************************************
WARNING: Check the headers before replying

From ulrich at pukruppa.net  Tue May 12 02:58:04 2009
From: ulrich at pukruppa.net (Peter Ulrich Kruppa)
Date: Tue May 12 02:58:11 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <4ad871310905111611u7045356bn32895b7ae36adb71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120104460.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4ad871310905111611u7045356bn32895b7ae36adb71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1242097273.1568.101.camel@pukruppa.net>

Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 19:11 -0400 schrieb Glen Barber:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Wojciech Puchar
> <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> yes. FreeBSD/amd64
> >>
> >> Or i386.
> >
> > if you want limited system - yes
> >>
> 
> If by 'limited' you mean being able to use nVidia drivers, that's not
> very 'limited' to me.
> 
Please do correct me:
Only Graphic Cards by nVidia are a problem on amd64, everything else can
be run via OpenSource drivers (?!)

Greetings

Uli. 
From glen.j.barber at gmail.com  Tue May 12 03:05:44 2009
From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber)
Date: Tue May 12 03:05:51 2009
Subject: Processors
In-Reply-To: <1242097273.1568.101.camel@pukruppa.net>
References: <2434cab10905110348l65704a92m553da409a0e5371a@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120013040.9911@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905111656140.7689@wonkity.com>
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120104460.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
	<4ad871310905111611u7045356bn32895b7ae36adb71@mail.gmail.com>
	<1242097273.1568.101.camel@pukruppa.net>
Message-ID: <4ad871310905112005h43e69c05j98297827ac9ec169@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Peter Ulrich Kruppa
<ulrich@pukruppa.net> wrote:
>>
>> If by 'limited' you mean being able to use nVidia drivers, that's not
>> very 'limited' to me.
>>
> Please do correct me:
> Only Graphic Cards by nVidia are a problem on amd64, everything else can
> be run via OpenSource drivers (?!)
>

nVidia was just an example.  Yes, the nv driver will do the job, but
3D is lacking.

-- 
Glen Barber
From tajudd at gmail.com  Tue May 12 03:18:51 2009
From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd)
Date: Tue May 12 03:18:57 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <D9C95336FD403876E6364160@Macintosh-2.local>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> 
	<alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120105020.10200@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> 
	<ade45ae90905111906s64dc9592ud40b92918c3af8bb@mail.gmail.com> 
	<D9C95336FD403876E6364160@Macintosh-2.local>
Message-ID: <ade45ae90905112018r5e7d3a26v57cc598a67c1c4ca@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com>wrote:

> --On May 11, 2009 8:06:41 PM -0600 Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've read Google, I've done my research, and know that what I say is the
>> last word.  They've exampled how WOL works, and as I said, it's a mode
>> the NIC gets set to and then the ACPI shuts the power off.
>>
>> Without this mode, the WOL packets get to it, but it doesn't consider
>> them magic, and as a result, it will not power on the box.
>>
>> There were some examples, but not enough testing/any testing results were
>> posted online so I assume the poster left it stagnant.
>>
>>
> Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki,
> development just started in 8 CURRENT:
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan
>
> So unless you're running CURRENT, it doesn't look like you're going to have
> any success trying to get it to work.  Even if you have 8 CURRENT, you'll
> still need to figure out if your NIC is supported yet, or write the code
> yourself if you have that capability.
>
> Paul Schmehl, If it isn't already
> obvious, my opinions are my own
> and not those of my employer.
> ******************************************
> WARNING: Check the headers before replying
>
>

Paul,

That's excellent news, and I will remember this as something to look forward
to.  Seems to be a very important thing to many people and I'm glad we're
moving that way.


Thank you, Paul for the update.


--TJ
From saifi.khan at twincling.org  Tue May 12 05:31:42 2009
From: saifi.khan at twincling.org (Saifi Khan)
Date: Tue May 12 05:31:49 2009
Subject: fdisk: class not found
In-Reply-To: <4A0861D9.4050308@FreeBSD.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111115330.5038@localhost>
	<4A0861D9.4050308@FreeBSD.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905121103030.7559@localhost>

On Mon, 11 May 2009, Pietro Cerutti wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Saifi Khan wrote:
> | Hi all:
> Hi Saifi,
> 
> | Trying to write a partition table using fdisk supplied in the
> | installation DVD of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot.
> |
> | Should we write new partition table ? [n] y
> | fdisk: Class not found
> |
> | When i again run 'fdisk' it should the old partition table.
> |
> | What exactly does 'Class not found' mean ?
> 
> This comes from geom. See geom(8).
> 

Hi Pietro:

Does this imply, geom_mbr needs to be loaded, if one is using
the Fixit# (DVD/Live) console ?


thanks
Saifi.
From Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be  Tue May 12 07:52:25 2009
From: Pieter.Donche at ua.ac.be (Pieter Donche)
Date: Tue May 12 07:52:33 2009
Subject: isc-dhcpd server, HOSTNAME
In-Reply-To: <4A068874.8030408@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905071637270.45332@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>
	<4A068874.8030408@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905120946450.75856@macos.cmi.ua.ac.be>

On Sun, 10 May 2009, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> Pieter Donche wrote:
>> FreeBSD7 with isc-dhcp30-server.
>> It hands out an IP address, OK,
>> but the BASH environment variable HOSTNAME is not set. Why?
>> 
>> (A DNS server is active on the network and can succesfully be queried from 
>> a FreeBSD bash command (nslookup or host) to see the hostname associated 
>> with the IP-address)
>
> Hostname is not one of the parameters usually requested from a DHCP server
> by a Unix machine.  In fact, it's normally the other way round: the client
> tells the DHCP server what it's hostname is and the DHCP server can then
> inject an A record into the DNS dynamically.

So, the normal way is that you have an entry hostname="somename.somedomain"
in /etc/rc.conf ? 
I can't remember the details of the install of this FreeBSD7 system, set up
as a DHCPclient, but is during the installation the name of the host you want
this machine to have and its domainname something that is asked for?
(and then recorded in /etc/rc.conf)

> However it is possible to operate in the way you want.  To tell the dhcp
> server to look up names from the DNS based on the address supplied to a
> host, search for the description of the 'get-lease-hostnames' flag in
> the dhcpd.conf(5) man page.
>
> To tell dhcp clients to fetch their hostname from DHCP, you need to add it
> to a 'request' or 'require' block in dhclient.conf -- see dhclient.conf(5).
>
> It's been a long time since I ran a setup anything like that, so I cannot
> recall if that was all that was required, or if it was also necessary to
> write a small dhclient-script(8) to actually set the hostname. 
> Another alternative is to use a dhclient-script to take the IP number
> allocated by the DHCP server, look up the corresponding address and then
> set that as the hostname.
>
> The bash HOSTNAME environment variable will be set from the output of the
> hostname(1) command, which is usually set from the hostname variable in
> /etc/rc.conf or from the output of '/bin/kenv dhcp.host-name' if that is set. 
> Otherwise it uses a default hostname of 'amnesiac'.
> 	Cheers,
>
> 	Matthew
>
> -- 
> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                   7 Priory Courtyard
>                                                 Flat 3
> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey     Ramsgate
>                                                 Kent, CT11 9PW
>
>
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Date: Tue May 12 08:08:29 2009
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From onemda at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:10:17 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Tue May 12 10:10:24 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17798633.2121242080310610.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
	<ade45ae90905111548y37a90d9enda3a5bddfadc8878@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905120310j7b811549xb01cd88ff2481ec4@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/12/09, Tim Judd <tajudd@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Peter Steele <psteele@maxiscale.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone successfully used the wake-on-LAN tool wol to wake-up a FreeBSD
>> system? If yes, what NICs did you need to use to get this to work?
>>
>
> Search the archives.  The question of Wake-on-LAN has been around for a
> while.  I typically respond.
>
> Long story short: Wake-on-LAN requires OS/NIC driver support.  The OS puts
> the NIC in a mode at shutdown that allows Wake-on-LAN to work.  FreeBSD has
> no Wake-on-LAN driver support, hence, no host running FreeBSD has
> Wake-on-LAN capabilities.

FUD, read ifconfig(8)
>
> I'm shocked that the Intel NICs don't have this support, given that Intel
> provides such excellent documentation and/or drivers for FreeBSD.
>
> Please search the archives.
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>


-- 
Paul
From om-lists-bsd at omx.ch  Tue May 12 10:11:02 2009
From: om-lists-bsd at omx.ch (Olivier Mueller)
Date: Tue May 12 10:11:09 2009
Subject: subversion / dav_svn_module : Fatal error 'Recurse on a private
 mutex.'
Message-ID: <1242123058.945.31.camel@ompc.insign.local>

Hello,

I have a strange situation on our internal svn server. Since a few days
and some upgrades, if I try to access a new created repository via
apache, I get a blank page and this error in the apache error log:

==> /var/log/httpd/httpd-error.log <==
Fatal error 'Recurse on a private mutex.' at line 986 in file /usr/src/lib/libpthread/thread/thr_mutex.c (errno = 86)
[Tue May 12 11:56:02 2009] [notice] child pid 64353 exit signal Abort trap (6)


The only difference between both repositories is the db/format file:

diff -r repos/websites/testing/db/format repos/websites/testing2/db/format
1c1
< 4
---
> 3

If format is "3" (subversion "pre-1.6"), everything works fine, but if
the format is "4" the DAV/SVN part crashes (while everything remains
fine via svn client / svnserve).

I guess I should recompile something (apache?), or change a
configuration somewhere, but I'm still looking where.  Maybe you will
have an idea?  I'd still like to be able to use SVN/DAV with the new svn
1.6.x features... 

Thanks & regards,
Olivier



httpd.conf: 

[...]
LoadModule dav_module         libexec/apache2/mod_dav.so
LoadModule dav_svn_module     libexec/apache2/mod_dav_svn.so
LoadModule authz_svn_module   libexec/apache2/mod_authz_svn.so
[...]
<Location /svn/websites>
  DAV svn
  SVNParentPath /[...]/repos/websites
  AuthType Basic
  AuthName "SVNoverApache"
  AuthUserFile /.[...]./passwd
  Require valid-user
</Location>
[...]

[om@dev ~]$ pkg_info |grep subv
py-subversion-1.6.2 Python bindings for version control system
subversion-1.6.2    Version control system

[om@dev ~]$ pkg_info |grep thre
libpthread-stubs-0.1 This library provides weak aliases for pthread functions

FreeBSD 6.2/amd64   (upgrade to 7.2 planed for later this month)



From onemda at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:16:14 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Tue May 12 10:16:25 2009
Subject: fdisk: class not found
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905121103030.7559@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0905111115330.5038@localhost>
	<4A0861D9.4050308@FreeBSD.org>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0905121103030.7559@localhost>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905120316g2d511e3dq558fe286b4d135e9@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/12/09, Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@twincling.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA512
>>
>> Saifi Khan wrote:
>> | Hi all:
>> Hi Saifi,
>>
>> | Trying to write a partition table using fdisk supplied in the
>> | installation DVD of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 200905 snapshot.
>> |
>> | Should we write new partition table ? [n] y
>> | fdisk: Class not found
>> |
>> | When i again run 'fdisk' it should the old partition table.
>> |
>> | What exactly does 'Class not found' mean ?
>>
>> This comes from geom. See geom(8).
>>
>
> Hi Pietro:
>
> Does this imply, geom_mbr needs to be loaded, if one is using
> the Fixit# (DVD/Live) console ?

No, geom_part* are already replacing obsolete modules; geom_mbr is one of them
targeted for removal.
Until fdisk and bsdlabel got fixed you should use gpart(8) instead.

I switched to gpart(8) months ago(did complete reinstallation) so that
I could have more than 8 labels :)

-- 
Paul
From onemda at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:22:49 2009
From: onemda at gmail.com (Paul B. Mahol)
Date: Tue May 12 10:22:55 2009
Subject: ndis0 interrrupt storm
In-Reply-To: <4A089A87.8040800@onetel.com>
References: <49F78DD0.70007@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750904290530p7189e3d2y40328186dd4141f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<49FB6C6A.8020308@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905011711pc9c77f7p67e883e96fac7170@mail.gmail.com>
	<ade45ae90905011832g36736171p35fdcda8227907a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A03528F.7070405@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905080326q2c21e669xc08aaafbf0fbf36@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A04968E.5060203@onetel.com>
	<3a142e750905090742i4bf80d45n323a81d3e18223a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A089A87.8040800@onetel.com>
Message-ID: <3a142e750905120322h2eb984a6q786ad99287ae2cbb@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/11/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>> On 5/8/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>> Paul B. Mahol wrote:
>>>> On 5/7/09, Chris Whitehouse <cwhiteh@onetel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime I've tried the three possible drivers (XP, NT and an
>>>>> unlabelled one). I've also installed a recent 8-current snapshot,
>>>>> updated to latest source and built world, and tried the XP driver.
>>>>> Still
>>>>> get interrupt storms everywhere, also a panic (I think) in 8-current.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I give up or are there other things to try?
>>>> Panic should not happen. Please provide backtrace(or crashdump or
>>>> textdump)
>>> `fetch http://www.fishercroft.plus.com/vmcore.1.gz' should get a
>>> crashdump from a non-debug kernel, see below. It's about 17mb
>>>
>>> I built a driver with the XP driver using ndisgen and the same source as
>>> my recent build world.
>>>
>>> I kldload the driver module which also loads ndis.ko and if_ndis.ko.
>>>
>>> I've got
>>> wlans_ndis0="wlan0"
>>> in rc.conf and I get ndis0 and wlan0 created when I plug in the card.
>>>
>>> The interrupt storm starts when I do
>>>
>>> # ifconfig wlan0 <ip addr>
>>>
>>> The panic occurs maybe a minute or two after the ifconfig.
>>>
>>> I got a panic but I couldn't get a crashdump with the GENERIC kernel
>>> (nothing relevant to dumpon or savecore happened at all, no boot
>>> messages, nothing in /var/crash).
>>> I did get a bunch of stuff on ttyv0, I can post a photo somewhere if
>>> required. Or is there a way to get the screen output in text format?
>>>
>>> I built a kernel with the following changes
>>>
>>> #cpu            I486_CPU
>>> #cpu            I586_CPU
>>>
>>> #makeoptions    DEBUG=-g                # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug
>>
>> Oh nooooo, crash dump is useless with that option commented in kernel.
>> [You can alway just look at documentation installed in /usr/share/doc/,
>> for example developers handbook]
>>
>>> symbols
>>>
>>> #options        KDB                     # Enable kernel debugger support.
>>> #options        DDB                     # Support DDB.
>>> #options        GDB                     # Support remote GDB.
>>> #options        INVARIANTS              # Enable calls of extra sanity
>>> checking
>>> #options        INVARIANT_SUPPORT       # Extra sanity checks of
>>> internal structures, required by INVARIANTS
>>> #options        WITNESS                 # Enable checks to detect
>>> deadlocks and cycles
>>> #options        WITNESS_SKIPSPIN        # Don't run witness on spinlocks
>>> for speed
>> Both KDB, DDB, GDB, WITNESS and INVARIANTS are usefull in debugging
>> kernel.
>> So please uncomment all that debugging support.
>> After all you can build two kernels, and use boot loader command or
>> nextboot(8)
>>
> I tried with GENERIC and with my no-debug kernel. The panic happened
> with both but there was no crashdump with the GENERIC. All other
> settings were the same, eg no change to rc.conf. My setup seems to be
> right according to the developers handbook section 10.1.
>
> Is there something special I have to do with -CURRENT to get the crashdump?

Just typing bt on db prompt for now should be enough.
>
>>>
>>>
>>> I got on ttyv0:
>>>
>>> interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source
>>>
>>> repeated about 20 times then
>>>
>>> Sleeping thread (tid 100084, pid 0) owns a non-sleepable lock
>>
>> Heh, thats is bug, now only remains to find where it is caused.
>>
> I got this screendump (copied and pasted) from ttyv0 before the panic
> with GENERIC. It was repeated maybe 20 times then dropped to db> prompt.
>
> interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source
> Waiting on "KeWFS" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
> exclusive sleep mutex ndis0 (network driver) r = 0 (0xc34fd06c) locked @
> /usr/sr
> c/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c:3432
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c0c40c0b,d40e3ac0,c089d245,c3888072,d68,...) at
> db_trace_s
> elf_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c3888072,d68,ffffffff,c0eca774,d40e3af8,...) at
> kdb_backtrace+0x29
>
> _witness_debugger(c0c42f9c,d40e3b0c,4,1,0,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25
> witness_warn(5,c38a24d0,c0c37d7c,c389ea81,d40e3b3c,...) at
> witness_warn+0x1fd
> _cv_timedwait(d40e3b6c,c38a24d0,1389,ffffffff,c38cafc8,...) at
> _cv_timedwait+0xc
> 6
> KeWaitForSingleObject(c38cafc0,0,0,0,d40e3bbc,...) at
> KeWaitForSingleObject+0x1b
> 0
> ndis_set_info(c34fd000,d01011a,0,d40e3bf8,c37b2524,...) at
> ndis_set_info+0x1c8
> ndis_scan_start(c3a14000,0,c0c5286b,36e,80246,...) at ndis_scan_start+0xe8
> scan_task(c3a04800,1,c0c42357,54,c38c485c,...) at scan_task+0x150
> taskqueue_run(c38c4840,c38c485c,0,c0c33ff4,0,...) at taskqueue_run+0x10b
> taskqueue_thread_loop(c3a14074,d40e3d38,c0c39438,333,c0d88ca0,...) at
> taskqueue_
> thread_loop+0x68
> fork_exit(c08963e0,c3a14074,d40e3d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
> fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xd40e3d70, ebp = 0 ---
> interrupt storm detected on "irq11:"; throttling interrupt source

Thats is something.
>>> panic: sleeping thread
>>> cpuid = 0
>>> Uptime:17m26s
>>> Physical memory: 434 MB
>>> Dumping 79 MB: 64 48 32 16
>>> Dump complete
>>>
>>> (The above typed by hand)
>>>
>>> Let me know if there is more I can do but (caveat) I'm not a developer
>>> and I only put CURRENT on the machine to test if the problem had been
>>> fixed, ie please don't flame me if you ask me really difficult stuff and
>>> I don't understand it :)
>>
>> You can always ask me off list for anything that you don't understand.
> thanks :)

-- 
Paul
From laladelausanne at gmail.com  Tue May 12 10:50:59 2009
From: laladelausanne at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Nikola_Kne=C5=BEevi=C4=87?=)
Date: Tue May 12 10:51:05 2009
Subject: Failing to get dc-misses with pmc
Message-ID: <2580F282-ABE0-448B-AB10-16CB9A3EC16D@gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to get number of L2 cache misses on a system level via:
  sudo pmcstat -S dc-misses -O /tmp/sample.out

However, I'm getting this error:
pmcstat: ERROR: Cannot allocate system-mode pmc with specification "dc- 
misses": Invalid argument

I'm running 7.1-RELEASE-p3 on:
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5472  @ 3.00GHz (3004.49-MHz K8- 
class CPU)
   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x10676  Stepping = 6
    
Features 
= 
0xbfebfbff 
< 
FPU 
,VME 
,DE 
,PSE 
,TSC 
,MSR 
,PAE 
,MCE 
,CX8 
,APIC 
,SEP 
,MTRR 
,PGE 
,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
    
Features2 
= 
0xce3bd 
<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA,<b19>>
   AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
   AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
   Cores per package: 4
usable memory = 8570097664 (8173 MB)
avail memory  = 8243294208 (7861 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <INTEL  S5400SF >


What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Nikola
From martinbadie at yahoo.com  Tue May 12 12:46:12 2009
From: martinbadie at yahoo.com (Martin Badie)
Date: Tue May 12 12:46:18 2009
Subject: mount_nfs and fstab options
Message-ID: <312995.95999.qm@web59916.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I have mounted an NFS share like:

mount_nfs -LisT 10.10.10.199:/vol/share   /mnt

but I can't use -LisT on fstab because man mount_nfs states:


Historic -o Options

             Use of these options is deprecated, they are only mentioned here
             for compatibility with historic versions of mount_nfs.

             bg         Same as -b.

             fg         Same as not specifying -b.

             conn       Same as not specifying -c.

             dumbtimer  Same as -d.

             intr       Same as -i.

             lockd      Same as not specifying -L.

             nfsv2      Same as -2.

             nfsv3      Same as -3.

             rdirplus   Same as -l.

             mntudp     Same as -U.

             resvport   Same as -P.

             soft       Same as -s.

             hard       Same as not specifying -s.

             tcp        Same as -T.  
 
Thus since I can't give this in -o section at fstab how can I use -List at fstab .. I have used rw,lockd,intr,soft,tcp  but that didn't work:

10.10.10.199:/vol/share    /mnt       nfs    rw,lockd,intr,soft,tcp          0       0

Regards.



      
From psteele at maxiscale.com  Tue May 12 13:33:41 2009
From: psteele at maxiscale.com (Peter Steele)
Date: Tue May 12 13:33:48 2009
Subject: Wake-on-LAN support in FreeBSD?
In-Reply-To: <30891392.2381242135163014.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>
Message-ID: <6044475.2401242135180402.JavaMail.HALO$@halo>

>Tim, I know nothing about WOL on FreeBSD, but according to the wiki, 
>development just started in 8 CURRENT: 
>http://wiki.freebsd.org/WakeOnLan 

I came across that same reference. Unfortunately we're stuck on 7.0. I take it the point of the "wol" command that available in the ports collection is that it can be used to wake any system that supports wake-on-LAN, and these systems can be running any OS. 

So, based on what I've read here and in my searches, for wake-on-LAN to work on a given system, the NIC itself has to suppor