What server hardware are you buying from the big companies
these days?
Tim Judd
tajudd at gmail.com
Mon Jun 8 19:04:13 UTC 2009
And I say you get what you pay for. My organization uses Dell
exclusively and it's been a thorn in my side from day one. The AC
power requirements (it seems) for Dells are about 3x as much as
Gateways (I know, Gateway doesn't provide servers). The power draw
for the Dells don't seem to be any better for them, in fact, they seem
to run hotter.
iXsystems, the PC-BSD guys, build components and provide hardware
warranty like "the big companies".
I would pick IBM or iXsystems. IBM's warranty policy is written out,
the IBMs have had more overall success than any other big company
brand, and we're talking the pioneers of the PCs.. "IBM or IBM
compatible".
IBMs are the highest priced units, but I've had zero problems with them.
I dream big, only because I can.
Good luck.
On 6/8/09, Frederique Rijsdijk <frederique at isafeelin.org> wrote:
> ericr wrote:
>> I need to buy some new servers, and mgmt has decreed that we get them from
>> someplace which will provide service contracts with on-site h/w suppport,
>> which means HP, Dell, Sun, IBM, etc.
>
> We use Dell almost exclusively. Although Dell doesn't officially support
> FreeBSD, Dell hardware is tier-1 for FreeBSD. I think their hardware is
> quite OK. The machines are built well. Haven't had too much to deal with
> their onsite service (which is a good sign), but the times that I did I
> think they handled it quite well, the parts were in house within 4 hours
> and in a case where a motherboard had to be replaced, a Dell technician
> was sent in as well and did his job fine.
>
> Dell's RAID controllers (Perc/5i and Perc/6i) work fine in BSD, and some
> tools are available although with Linux emulation which kind of sucks.
>
> Here's a sample dmesg of a 1950:
>
>> Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project.
>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
>> FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Apr 3 10:28:13 CEST 2009
>> root at hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5148 @ 2.33GHz (2327.52-MHz K8-class
>> CPU)
>> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Stepping = 11
>>
>> Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>>
>> Features2=0x4e3bd<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,DCA>
>> AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
>> AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
>> Cores per package: 2
>> usable memory = 4276400128 (4078 MB)
>> avail memory = 4114935808 (3924 MB)
>> ACPI APIC Table: <DELL PE_SC3 >
>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
>> cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
>> cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
>> ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
>> ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>> kbd1 at kbdmux0
>> ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
>> acpi0: <DELL PE_SC3> on motherboard
>> acpi0: [ITHREAD]
>> acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
>> Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
>> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
>> acpi_hpet0: <High Precision Event Timer> iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on
>> acpi0
>> Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
>> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
>> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
>> pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
>> pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
>> pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci4
>> pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
>> pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci5
>> pci6: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
>> pcib4: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci6
>> pci7: <PCI bus> on pcib4
>> bce0: <Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2)> mem
>> 0xf4000000-0xf5ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci7
>> miibus0: <MII bus> on bce0
>> brgphy0: <BCM5708C 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus0
>> brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
>> 1000baseT-FDX, auto
>> bce0: Ethernet address: 00:22:19:82:e8:45
>> bce0: [ITHREAD]
>> bce0: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W
>> (0x04000305); Flags( MFW MSI )
>> pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci5
>> pci8: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
>> pcib6: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.3 on pci4
>> pci9: <PCI bus> on pcib6
>> pcib7: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 3.0 on pci0
>> pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib7
>> mfi0: <Dell PERC 6> port 0xec00-0xecff mem
>> 0xfc480000-0xfc4bffff,0xfc440000-0xfc47ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
>> mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 3.00
>> mfi0: 2031 (292323270s/0x0020/info) - Shutdown command received from host
>> mfi0: 2032 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI
>> ID 0060/1000/1f0c/1028)
>> mfi0: 2033 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 1.11.82-0473
>> mfi0: 2034 (boot + 3s/0x0008/info) - Battery Present
>> mfi0: 2035 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Package version 6.0.3-0002
>> mfi0: 2036 (boot + 21s/0x0004/info) - Enclosure (SES) discovered on PD
>> 20(c None/p0)
>> mfi0: 2037 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: Encl PD 20
>> mfi0: 2038 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 20(c None/p0) Info:
>> enclPd=20, scsiType=d, portMap=09,
>> sasAddr=5001e090e8810900,0000000000000000
>> mfi0: 2039 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 00(e0x20/s0)
>> mfi0: 2040 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 00(e0x20/s0) Info:
>> enclPd=20, scsiType=0, portMap=00,
>> sasAddr=5000c5000d253121,0000000000000000
>> mfi0: 2041 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 01(e0x20/s1)
>> mfi0: 2042 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 01(e0x20/s1) Info:
>> enclPd=20, scsiType=0, portMap=01,
>> sasAddr=5000c5000d25eb55,0000000000000000
>> mfi0: 2043 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 02(e0x20/s2)
>> mfi0: 2044 (boot + 21s/0x0002/info) - Inserted: PD 02(e0x20/s2) Info:
>> enclPd=20, scsiType=0, portMap=02,
>> sasAddr=5000c5000d2420ed,0000000000000000
>> mfi0: 2045 (292323299s/0x0020/info) - Time established as 04/06/09
>> 8:54:59; (29 seconds since power on)
>> mfi0: 2046 (292323338s/0x0008/info) - Battery temperature is normal
>> mfi0: [ITHREAD]
>> pcib8: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
>> pci10: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib8
>> pcib9: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 5.0 on pci0
>> pci11: <PCI bus> on pcib9
>> pcib10: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 6.0 on pci0
>> pci12: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib10
>> pcib11: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
>> pci13: <PCI bus> on pcib11
>> pcib12: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 28.0 on pci0
>> pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib12
>> pcib13: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci2
>> pci3: <PCI bus> on pcib13
>> bce1: <Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2)> mem
>> 0xf8000000-0xf9ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
>> miibus1: <MII bus> on bce1
>> brgphy1: <BCM5708C 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus1
>> brgphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
>> 1000baseT-FDX, auto
>> bce1: Ethernet address: 00:22:19:82:e8:43
>> bce1: [ITHREAD]
>> bce1: ASIC (0x57081020); Rev (B2); Bus (PCI-X, 64-bit, 133MHz); F/W
>> (0x04000305); Flags( MFW MSI )
>> uhci0: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-1> port
>> 0xcce0-0xccff irq 21 at device 29.0 on pci0
>> uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> uhci0: [ITHREAD]
>> usb0: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-1> on uhci0
>> usb0: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>> uhci1: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-2> port
>> 0xccc0-0xccdf irq 20 at device 29.1 on pci0
>> uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> uhci1: [ITHREAD]
>> usb1: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-2> on uhci1
>> usb1: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub1: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
>> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>> uhci2: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-3> port
>> 0xcca0-0xccbf irq 21 at device 29.2 on pci0
>> uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> uhci2: [ITHREAD]
>> usb2: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-3> on uhci2
>> usb2: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub2: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
>> uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>> uhci3: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-4> port
>> 0xcc80-0xcc9f irq 20 at device 29.3 on pci0
>> uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> uhci3: [ITHREAD]
>> usb3: <Intel 631XESB/632XESB/3100 USB controller USB-4> on uhci3
>> usb3: USB revision 1.0
>> uhub3: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
>> uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>> ehci0: <Intel 63XXESB USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfc500400-0xfc5007ff irq 21
>> at device 29.7 on pci0
>> ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> ehci0: [ITHREAD]
>> usb4: EHCI version 1.0
>> usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
>> usb4: <Intel 63XXESB USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
>> usb4: USB revision 2.0
>> uhub4: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
>> uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
>> uhub5: <vendor 0x04b4 product 0x6560, class 9/0, rev 2.00/0.0b, addr 2> on
>> uhub4
>> uhub5: multiple transaction translators
>> uhub5: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
>> pcib14: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
>> pci14: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib14
>> vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem
>> 0xd8000000-0xdfffffff,0xfc2d0000-0xfc2dffff irq 19 at device 13.0 on pci14
>> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
>> atapci0: <Intel 63XXESB2 UDMA100 controller> port
>> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0
>> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
>> ata0: [ITHREAD]
>> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>> ata1: [ITHREAD]
>> fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
>> acpi0
>> fdc0: does not respond
>> device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6
>> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>> sio0: port may not be enabled
>> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>> sio0: port may not be enabled
>> sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on
>> acpi0
>> sio0: type 16550A
>> sio0: [FILTER]
>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>> sio1: port may not be enabled
>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>> sio1: port may not be enabled
>> sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
>> sio1: type 16550A
>> sio1: [FILTER]
>> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>> est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 71f071f0600071f
>> device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
>> p4tcc0: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu0
>> cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>> est1: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu1
>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 71f071f0600071f
>> device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
>> p4tcc1: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu1
>> fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
>> acpi0
>> fdc0: does not respond
>> device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6
>> cryptosoft0: <software crypto> on motherboard
>> orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
>> 0xc0000-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0
>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
>> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
>> kbd0 at atkbd0
>> atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>> atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
>> ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
>> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
>> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
>> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
>> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
>> acd0: DVDROM <TEAC DVD-ROM DV28EV/D.AG> at ata0-master UDMA33
>> mfi0: 2047 (292323338s/0x0008/info) - Current capacity of the battery is
>> above threshold
>> mfid0: <MFI Logical Disk> on mfi0
>> mfid0: 952832MB (1951399936 sectors) RAID volume '' is optimal
>> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
>> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a
>> ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, nat loadable, rule-based
>> forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled
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