From invalid.pointer at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 00:11:18 2009 From: invalid.pointer at gmail.com (Manish Jain) Date: Sat Aug 1 00:11:24 2009 Subject: AP#1 on Phy#1 : The reason on my system Message-ID: <4A738821.2060304@gmail.com> Hi, A long time back, I had reported getting AP#1 on Phy#1 error messages and boot failure on my amd64 system. After many tests, I am convinced the problem occurs only if a USB mouse is plugged in at boot-time. A few days back, I finally got a USB-to-PS2 converter and hooked my mouse into a PS2 port, with USB mouse support disabled in the BIOS. I've never had this problem since then. So it's pretty certain that the USB mouse was the source of the boot-failures. Since Windows never had any boot problems with the USB mouse, I think this might be an issue for the FreeBSD kernel developers. If this helps anyone or clears any doubts, I can only be glad. (NB : I also have a report from a friend of mine using amd64 with debian-5.02 that debian has pretty much the same problem. He has taken my advice and is now hooking the mouse into the PS/2 port with good results). Thank you& -- Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-96500-10329 Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won. From gbell72 at rogers.com Sat Aug 1 00:23:40 2009 From: gbell72 at rogers.com (Gardner Bell) Date: Sat Aug 1 00:23:47 2009 Subject: how to boot or access problem file system In-Reply-To: <4A7357A9.4050505@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Gardner Bell --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ wrote: > From: PJ > Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system > To: "Roland Smith" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM > PJ wrote: > > Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ > wrote: > >> > >>> Basically, the news is not good. > >>> The directories & files are not what I had > to begin with. > >>> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: > Permission denied. > >>> > >> Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come > across something > >> like that. > >> What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe > /dev is mounted with > >> incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, > I presume? > Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? > On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... > ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 > ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs > ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes > ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes > The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From perrin at apotheon.com Sat Aug 1 00:55:42 2009 From: perrin at apotheon.com (Chad Perrin) Date: Sat Aug 1 00:56:14 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> <20090731231007.feec5a75.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090801004830.GA45299@kokopelli.hydra> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:10:07PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > > > That's easy. Just press + and it'll close Firefox immediately. > > Negative for firefox-2.0.0.12,1 (on my desktop system) - no Ctrl+Q. :-) I don't remember that capability lacking in Firefox 2, but it has been a little while since I've used it, so I don't really know for sure. You should be able to close it at least by pressing + once per open tab. That's a keyboard shortcut that closes the current tab, and if you do that when there's only one tab open, that should close the browser (but only if you have it configured to close the browser when closing the last tab). I think the relevant configuration option in the about:config window is: browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab I'm pretty sure I was able to close Firefox with a keyboard shortcut back when I used Firefox 2, but I don't remember how. I guess you're on your own, unless someone else here uses Firefox 2 and can help you out. Does + work for you? That's probably dependent on your choice of window manager. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From enidv11 at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 08:04:59 2009 From: enidv11 at gmail.com (enid vx) Date: Sat Aug 1 08:05:06 2009 Subject: Not recognizing raid controller Adaptec AIC7901 In-Reply-To: <20090731173631.GA31081@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <77b5ce830907310939k7583e625na9786c6efd6d0de8@mail.gmail.com> <20090731173631.GA31081@eggman.experts-exchange.com> Message-ID: <77b5ce830908010104v6e6fa934h1f3d19ed02695631@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for your reply, I've searched through Adaptec site for drivers but are offered only Linux (Red Hat , Suse, Novell Netware), Windows, SCO Unix, SCO UnixWare and Sun Solaris. Also is available Linux driver source code. I don't know if they offer FreeBSD driver, maybe I should ask them. So, if I find the drivers what is the procedure to compile them and load them to the kernel? Rgds. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jason wrote: > You may want to try using the Adaptec drivers from Adaptec, and not the > native freebsd drivers. > > Edit /boot/loader.conf, and that may be it. > > I've found great success with them. > > -jgh > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:39:56PM +0200, enid vx thus spake: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having some problems installing FreeBSD 6.3 on my machine equipped >> with >> : >> >> Single channel Adaptec? AIC-7901 controller for Ultra320 SCSI >> Host RAID 0, 1, 10 support >> >> I have 4 disks which are configured in 2 Raid1, >> >> the problem is when I try to install FreeBSd from the installer cd, it >> shows >> only the separated disks. >> >> I've added also ahd_load="YES" into /boot/loader.conf on the installation >> cd, >> also on the boot prompt >> load ahd >> load ahd.ko >> and then boot >> >> but again with no success . >> It were recognized only the 4 disks as separated. >> >> How can I make it recognize the raid ? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> From af.gourmet at videotron.ca Sat Aug 1 13:21:49 2009 From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ) Date: Sat Aug 1 13:21:56 2009 Subject: how to boot or access problem file system In-Reply-To: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A74416B.70309@videotron.ca> Gardner Bell wrote: > Gardner Bell > > > --- On Fri, 7/31/09, PJ wrote: > > >> From: PJ >> Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system >> To: "Roland Smith" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Received: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:44 PM >> PJ wrote: >> >>> Roland Smith wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:42:43PM -0400, PJ >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> Basically, the news is not good. >>>>> The directories & files are not what I had >>>>> >> to begin with. >> >>>>> ls /dev/ad0s1 or any disk/slice merely gets: >>>>> >> Permission denied. >> >>>> Now that is certainly weird. :-) I've never come >>>> >> across something >> >>>> like that. >>>> What do 'mount' and 'ls -ld /dev' return? Maybe >>>> >> /dev is mounted with >> >>>> incorrect permissions. You are logged in as root, >>>> >> I presume? >> Now, how could I be logged in? from livefs? >> On bootup, I see ar0 boot error or something like that... >> ls /dev ... shows ad0, ad10, ad12, ad4 and ar0 >> ad0 only has ad0s1 (I assume this to be ntfs >> ad10 also has s1, s1a, s1b, c, d, e, e, suffixes >> ad4 has s1, s1a, s1b, no c, but d, e, f suffixes >> The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) >> > > Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? > Read Shakespeare ! (Or look up the phrase "Something is rotten in Denmark" on Google. From af.gourmet at videotron.ca Sat Aug 1 13:24:00 2009 From: af.gourmet at videotron.ca (PJ) Date: Sat Aug 1 13:24:07 2009 Subject: how to boot or access problem file system In-Reply-To: <4a73f14e.Lx2GUnkKP78mT+Gf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <902686.85166.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4a73f14e.Lx2GUnkKP78mT+Gf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <4A7441F0.20904@videotron.ca> perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Gardner Bell wrote: > >>> The stench from Denmark is getting to me... ;-) >>> >> Insulting much with your remark about Denmark? >> > > Methinks it be an oblique reference to > a line from Shakespeare's play about the Dane > with no insult intended, then or now. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Methinks I've found a literary genius amid this swamp of digital mechanics. ;-) -- Herv? Kempf: "Pour sauver la plan?te, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 15:07:12 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Sat Aug 1 15:07:45 2009 Subject: Difficulty in installing ncurses. In-Reply-To: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <344117.53663.qm@web25802.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090801150704.GA5350@phoenix.dhcp.drexel.edu> michael green wrote: > 7.2-RELEASE #0. Generic kernel. Full installation from DVD. > > > I'm trying to install ncurses because I want to run FoxPro Unix, which expects a terminfo database. > Perhaps terminfo(5) can help? -- Glen Barber - 215.839.8649 From djuatdelta at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 18:43:21 2009 From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood) Date: Sat Aug 1 18:43:28 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> References: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Message-ID: Midori seems to have problems displaying Gmail. From grimjow.espada at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 18:56:54 2009 From: grimjow.espada at gmail.com (GrimJow Espada) Date: Sat Aug 1 18:57:01 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 fresh install Message-ID: <9ef7e7380908011129g43271264yfc76633e9f55bc1@mail.gmail.com> Hi I have installed FBSD 7.2 and when i try to set up xorg using xorgconfig or xorg -configure it doesnt work any more, any changes on the command? thanks Regards, GrimJow From martinrame at yahoo.com Sat Aug 1 19:08:52 2009 From: martinrame at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?=) Date: Sat Aug 1 19:08:58 2009 Subject: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade Message-ID: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A couple of weeks ago I upgraded libjpeg to 10, and had to upgrade a bunch of programs that required this library. Today I needed to use FileZilla client and received this error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.9" not found, required by "libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0" I tried to recompile FileZilla to avoid the error and it is still showing. How can I avoid this?. Leonardo M. Ram? http://leonardorame.blogspot.com From nightrecon at hotmail.com Sat Aug 1 19:09:57 2009 From: nightrecon at hotmail.com (Michael Powell) Date: Sat Aug 1 19:10:04 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7.2 fresh install References: <9ef7e7380908011129g43271264yfc76633e9f55bc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: GrimJow Espada wrote: > Hi I have installed FBSD 7.2 and when i try to set up xorg using > xorgconfig or xorg -configure it doesnt work any more, any changes on the > command? thanks > Try Xorg -configure instead. May want to read too: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html -Mike From anti_spam256 at yahoo.ca Sat Aug 1 19:23:05 2009 From: anti_spam256 at yahoo.ca (James Phillips) Date: Sat Aug 1 19:23:12 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: <20090731120022.8E64810656C4@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <88736.64891.qm@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> "(Firefox) is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component, similar to Galeon, K-Meleon and Camino, but written using the XUL user interface language and designed to be lightweight and cross-platform. " - http://packages.debian.org/stable/web/iceweasel The Original Poster ruled out dillo because it did not have enough features. I fear any "featureful, lightweight" web-browser is destined to be "bloated" like Firefox, or as some people suggest, Opera. The introduction of the Document Object Model (and CSS) with HTML 4.0 means fast Lynx-style single-pass rendering is out. JavaScript means that websites can use an arbitrary amount of CPU time (sometimes deliberately), unless throttled. Regards, James Phillips --- On Fri, 7/31/09, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote: > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:30:02 +0200 > From: Wolfgang Riegler > Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <200907311230.02216.w.riegler@cbtl.de> > Content-Type: text/plain;? charset="iso-8859-1" > > Give Midori a try. Of course it's a young project and maybe > there are not all > of the features of Firefox or Opera, but Midori is > lightweight and really > fast. It's based on WebKit, so there should be no problem > with standard > conform websites. > > Wolfgang > > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From the.real.david.allen at gmail.com Sat Aug 1 21:46:05 2009 From: the.real.david.allen at gmail.com (David Allen) Date: Sat Aug 1 21:46:12 2009 Subject: Manual Installations on Flash Media Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0908011421x3142425fm69eef6df8ebf4309@mail.gmail.com> I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via a USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the use of an installation CD, PXE or sysinstall. 1. When creating an /etc/fstab file, does the order in which entries appear have any significance? I've noticed that when using sysinstall approach, the entries appear in the following order: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad0s1e /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad0s1d /var ufs rw 2 2 Would a device alphabetical order (as used by bsdlabel) work? 2. I don't expect the system to swap, so can I dispense with a swap entry and have everything function normally (no error messages, etc.)? 3. Will adding `noatime' to / or any other filesystem have any consequences? From dnelson at allantgroup.com Sat Aug 1 22:28:56 2009 From: dnelson at allantgroup.com (Dan Nelson) Date: Sat Aug 1 22:29:03 2009 Subject: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade In-Reply-To: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <565560.34503.qm@web35606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090801222851.GA82067@dan.emsphone.com> In the last episode (Aug 01), Leonardo M. Ram? said: > > A couple of weeks ago I upgraded libjpeg to 10, and had to upgrade a bunch > of programs that required this library. > > Today I needed to use FileZilla client and received this error: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.9" not found, required by "libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0" > > I tried to recompile FileZilla to avoid the error and it is still showing. Sounds like you missed upgrading whatever port installed libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0, since it still depends on libjpeg.so.9. Run "locate libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0", then "pkg_info -W (whatever locate finds)", then "portupgrade -f (whatever pkg_info finds)". -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From dan at langille.org Sat Aug 1 23:10:27 2009 From: dan at langille.org (Dan Langille) Date: Sat Aug 1 23:10:34 2009 Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-08-01 Message-ID: <20090801231010.50E17509E7@nyi.unixathome.org> The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . RECENT ARTICLES: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework This makes jails easier http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2 24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2 20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2 17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From herbert.raimund at gmx.net Sun Aug 2 09:17:51 2009 From: herbert.raimund at gmx.net (herbert langhans) Date: Sun Aug 2 09:17:58 2009 Subject: FreeBSD & IBM Thinkpad - What Model to Choose? Message-ID: <20090802111651.5b7cca9b@bobcat.edu> Hi Daemons, I bet there are FreeBSD-on-Thinkpad users out there. I need some help.. At the moment I search for a laptop, a used model from auction sites, preferably an IBM Thinkpad. There is a huge number of different models, even a Wiki with all the specs. But all the info doesn't help me to decide what model works best for me with FreeBSD. I also have no idea if the BSD drivers work out of the box. No dual boot required - I'll dump the Windows stuff. The model I search for is a cheap low-end type. Small harddisk is fine too, it even can be slow - I use mostly vim, fluxbox, a few small gtk-ports and even get by with a text browser like lynx. Otherwise I would really reqire the Thinkpad to be slim and have some kind of low power consumption (this depends on the kind of processor I guess - I have no clue what processor is a good choice). And an opportunity to use a PCMCIA-Card for a Wifi connection (and drivers for them!). Do you have any good/bad experiences with certain IBM Thinkpads? Is there any special model (line) I should look for? Are there any options I should look for or avoid (no BSD drivers available i.e)? Thanks for your time! herb langhans From fam.vanderschaft at kpnplanet.nl Sun Aug 2 10:53:57 2009 From: fam.vanderschaft at kpnplanet.nl (Familie van der Schaft) Date: Sun Aug 2 10:54:05 2009 Subject: pgpsendmail instructions Message-ID: <002401ca135e$cf61b0e0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> LS, I am trying to get pgpsenmail working but i can't figure out what to do. For example which instance of sendmail can/must be replaced: /usr/libexec/sendmail (which is symbolic link) /usr/sbin/sendmail in both cases, i get the following message: /etc/rc.d >./sendmail restart sendmail not running? (check /var/run/sendmail.pid). Starting sendmail. SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! Someone didn't read the installation notes... /etc/rc.d >sendmail forcestart SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! Someone didn't read the installation notes... But where can i find these instructions (notes). The man-page (pgpsendmail(8)) does not give any extra info. Can anybody help me? Danny. From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 11:08:06 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Sun Aug 2 11:08:13 2009 Subject: pgpsendmail instructions In-Reply-To: <002401ca135e$cf61b0e0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> References: <002401ca135e$cf61b0e0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> Message-ID: <4ad871310908020408l4f62a2a3m6922511783591d9b@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Familie van der Schaft wrote: > LS, > > I am trying to get pgpsenmail working but i can't ?figure out what to do. > For example which instance of sendmail can/must ?be replaced: > > /usr/libexec/sendmail (which is symbolic link) What do you have this linked to? /usr/libexec/sendmail -> /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail ? > /usr/sbin/sendmail > > in both cases, i get the following message: > > /etc/rc.d >./sendmail ?restart > sendmail not running? (check /var/run/sendmail.pid). > Starting sendmail. > SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! > Someone didn't read the installation notes... Sometimes the problem is explained in the errors... Other times, pkg-message would be helpful in a port. %ls -1 /usr/ports/mail/pgpsendmail/ Makefile distinfo files pkg-descr pkg-plist > /etc/rc.d >sendmail forcestart > SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! > Someone didn't read the installation notes... > > But where can i find these instructions (notes). > The man-page (pgpsendmail(8)) does not give any extra info. > Can anybody help me? > Have a look at mailer.conf(5) -- Glen Barber From bsd.schaft.beheer at kpnplanet.nl Sun Aug 2 11:49:08 2009 From: bsd.schaft.beheer at kpnplanet.nl (bsd schaft) Date: Sun Aug 2 11:49:16 2009 Subject: pgpsendmail instructions References: <002401ca135e$cf61b0e0$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> <4ad871310908020408l4f62a2a3m6922511783591d9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005501ca1366$84957620$0302a8c0@VANDERSCHAFT.NET> Glenn, My mailer.conf contains: /etc/mail >cat mailer.conf # $FreeBSD: src/etc/mail/mailer.conf,v 1.3.34.1 2009/04/15 03:14:26 kensmith Exp $ # # Execute the "real" sendmail program, named /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail # sendmail /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail send-mail /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail mailq /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail newaliases /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail hoststat /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail purgestat /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail regarding the symbolic link: /etc/mail >ls -l /usr/sbin/sen* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21 May 31 10:28 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> /usr/sbin/mailwrapper It was the /usr/sbin/sendmail, sorry about that! So lets say , we replace the /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail with the pgpsendmail object from /usr/local/lib. /etc/mail >cd /usr/libexec/sendmail/ /usr/libexec/sendmail >ls -l total 704 -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 665512 May 31 10:28 sendmail -r-xr-sr-x 1 root smmsp 30944 Jul 23 19:17 sendmail.pgp /usr/libexec/sendmail >mv sendmail sendmail.real /usr/libexec/sendmail >mv sendmail.pgp sendmail As you can see, exactly the same security and all. Now check my env , for the PGPPATH variable: SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash TERM=xterm OLDPWD=/etc/mail USER=root PAGER=more FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin :/root/bin MAIL=/var/mail/root BLOCKSIZE=K PWD=/usr/libexec/sendmail PS1=$PWD > SHLVL=1 HOME=/root _=/usr/bin/env Not there, so i can restart the process... /etc/rc.d >./sendmail restart Stopping sendmail. Starting sendmail. SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! Someone didn't read the installation notes... I checked the pkg-message file: /usr/ports/mail/pgpsendmail >ls -l total 10 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 640 Oct 16 2005 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 204 Nov 25 2005 distinfo drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 31 17:07 files -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 456 Apr 17 1995 pkg-descr -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 58 Aug 17 1998 pkg-plist But is is not there... What can i do next, add/replace a line in mailer.conf: sendmail /usr/local/lib/pgpsendmail Again, after a restart, i receive the same error....... ,Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Barber" To: "Familie van der Schaft" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: Re: pgpsendmail instructions On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Familie van der Schaft wrote: > LS, > > I am trying to get pgpsenmail working but i can't figure out what to do. > For example which instance of sendmail can/must be replaced: > > /usr/libexec/sendmail (which is symbolic link) What do you have this linked to? /usr/libexec/sendmail -> /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail ? > /usr/sbin/sendmail > > in both cases, i get the following message: > > /etc/rc.d >./sendmail restart > sendmail not running? (check /var/run/sendmail.pid). > Starting sendmail. > SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! > Someone didn't read the installation notes... Sometimes the problem is explained in the errors... Other times, pkg-message would be helpful in a port. %ls -1 /usr/ports/mail/pgpsendmail/ Makefile distinfo files pkg-descr pkg-plist > /etc/rc.d >sendmail forcestart > SENDMAIL refers back to PGPsendmail! > Someone didn't read the installation notes... > > But where can i find these instructions (notes). > The man-page (pgpsendmail(8)) does not give any extra info. > Can anybody help me? > Have a look at mailer.conf(5) -- Glen Barber ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.40/2276 - Release Date: 08/01/09 18:04:00 From andrei.crivoi at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 13:12:43 2009 From: andrei.crivoi at gmail.com (Andrei Crivoi) Date: Sun Aug 2 13:12:50 2009 Subject: Sony PRS-505 Reader and camcontrol load problem Message-ID: <332c55d60908020552h4b89e7d5y97e4c8b29f313cd6@mail.gmail.com> Hi gaise, i'm trying to mount a memory stick card on my Sony Portable Reader PRS-505 device and constantly getting the "Error received from start unit command" message when issuing "camcontrol load" command. Here is the full log: [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# camcontrol rescan all Re-scan of bus 0 was successful Re-scan of bus 1 was successful [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# camcontrol devlist at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus1 target 0 lun 1 (pass1,da1) at scbus1 target 0 lun 2 (pass2,da2) [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# camcontrol load 1:0:1 Error received from start unit command The most interesting fact - 'camcontrol format' somehow saves the situation: [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# camcontrol format 1:0:1 You are about to REMOVE ALL DATA from the following device: pass1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device 40.000MB/s transfers Are you SURE you want to do this? (yes/no) yes Current format timeout is 10800 seconds Enter new timeout in seconds or press return to keep the current timeout [10800] camcontrol: Unexpected SCSI error during format (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI Status: Check Condition (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 (pass1:umass-sim0:0:0:1): Not ready to ready change, medium may have changed [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# camcontrol load 1:0:1 Unit started successfully, Media loaded And now i'm able to mount the device: [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# sudo mount -t msdosfs /dev/da1 /media/ mount_msdosfs: /dev/da1: : Invalid argument [root@morbo /usr/home/andrei]# sudo mount -t msdosfs /dev/da1s1 /media/ Somebody please explain what is going on and why can't i load the device without trying to format it first. From martinrame at yahoo.com Sun Aug 2 13:19:24 2009 From: martinrame at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?=) Date: Sun Aug 2 13:19:31 2009 Subject: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade In-Reply-To: <20090801222851.GA82067@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <876384.72617.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Dan, it was WxGTK2 that caused the issue. It was solved by a simple portupgrade wxgtk2. Leonardo M. Ram? http://leonardorame.blogspot.com --- On Sat, 8/1/09, Dan Nelson wrote: > From: Dan Nelson > Subject: Re: Filezilla doesn't work after libjpeg upgrade > To: "Leonardo M. Ram?" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:28 PM > In the last episode (Aug 01), > Leonardo M. Ram? said: > > > > A couple of weeks ago I upgraded libjpeg to 10, and > had to upgrade a bunch > > of programs that required this library. > > > > Today I needed to use FileZilla client and received > this error: > > > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libjpeg.so.9" not > found, required by "libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0" > > > > I tried to recompile FileZilla to avoid the error and > it is still showing. > > Sounds like you missed upgrading whatever port installed > libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0, since it still depends on > libjpeg.so.9.? Run > "locate libwx_gtk2_aui-2.8.so.0", then "pkg_info -W > (whatever locate > finds)", then "portupgrade -f (whatever pkg_info finds)". > > -- > ??? Dan Nelson > ??? dnelson@allantgroup.com > From martinrame at yahoo.com Sun Aug 2 13:30:11 2009 From: martinrame at yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?=) Date: Sun Aug 2 13:30:18 2009 Subject: Dell Touchpad and Mouse Message-ID: <255245.43002.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, my home computer is a Dell Inspiron 1525. When I use it in Windows, the touchpad is automatically disabled when I connect an USB mouse. I noted in FreeBSD the mouse and touchpad are allways enabled. Does anyone knows how can I fix this?. Leonardo M. Ram? http://leonardorame.blogspot.com From freebsd at superhero.nl Sun Aug 2 16:48:07 2009 From: freebsd at superhero.nl (Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD) Date: Sun Aug 2 16:48:15 2009 Subject: +ahd0: Transmission error detected Message-ID: <200b2b8e99de41b34148609cc22da3d9.squirrel@webmail.superhero.nl> Hi, I received this erron on my Freebsd 7-Stable (1 or 2 months old). I dont know how to read this error. Is this hardware? Or a software issue? Box is still running, 3 x SCSI and a ZFS pool on 3 SATA disks. Cheers, Patrick Logs____ +ahd0: Transmission error detected +LQISTAT1[0x0] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) +SCSISIGI[0x60]:(P_DATAIN_DT) PERRDIAG[0x4]:(CRCERR) +>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x27 Mode 0x33 +Card was paused +INTSTAT[0x8]:(SCSIINT) SELOID[0x2] SELID[0x20] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] +INTCTL[0xc0]:(SWTMINTEN|SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x10]:(SEQ_SWTMRTO) +SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x20]:(CURRFIFO_0|FIFO1FREE) +SCSISIGI[0x76]:(P_DATAIN_DT|REQI|BSYI|ATNI) SCSIPHASE[0x2]:(DATA_IN_PHASE) +SCSIBUS[0x5] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) +SCSISEQ0[0x0] SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) +SEQCTL0[0x10]:(FASTMODE) SEQINTCTL[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] +SEQ_FLAGS2[0x0] QFREEZE_COUNT[0x39] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x39] +MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x0] +SSTAT1[0x19]:(REQINIT|BUSFREE|PHASEMIS) SSTAT2[0x0] +SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) +LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x80]:(PACKETIZED) +LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x81]:(LQOSTOP0) + +SCB Count = 512 CMDS_PENDING = 11 LASTSCB 0x1f3 CURRSCB 0x1f3 NEXTSCB 0xffc0 +qinstart = 59875 qinfifonext = 59875 +QINFIFO: +WAITING_TID_QUEUES: +Pending list: +499 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +508 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +419 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +451 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +414 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +406 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +450 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +417 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +500 FIFO_USE[0x1] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +403 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +501 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +Total 11 +Kernel Free SCB lists: + Any Device: 481 411 492 488 457 484 496 469 468 461 497 449 502 487 480 416 454 467 506 478 505 503 494 400 459 412 489 420 498 485 495 464 460 410 421 483 455 507 458 409 404 493 511 448 399 472 408 415 418 413 482 490 452 476 407 510 477 401 466 473 463 479 471 491 405 462 465 456 486 402 504 429 422 423 424 470 425 426 475 474 427 428 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 509 453 447 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 437 438 439 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 25! 7 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 +Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: +Sequencer Complete list: +Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: +Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: + + +ahd0: FIFO0 Active, LONGJMP == 0x286, SCB 0x1a1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0xc]:(DIRECTION|HDMAEN) DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0xa3]:(LAST_SEG_DONE|LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] +DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] SOFFCNT[0xb] MDFFSTAT[0x12]:(DATAINFIFO|LASTSDONE) +SHADDR = 0x07e154000, SHCNT = 0x0 HADDR = 0x07e154000, HCNT = 0x0 +CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) + +ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8286, SCB 0x1c1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0xb] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 +HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) +LQIN: 0x5 0x0 0x1 0xa1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x40 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x2 0x0 +ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x25, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 +ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x1f MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 +ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 + +SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) +CCSCBCTL[0x0] +ahd0: REG0 == 0x1f3, SINDEX = 0x133, DINDEX = 0x106 +ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x1e1, SCB_NEXT == 0x1f4, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff0a +CDB 2a 0 3 80 88 c1 +STACK: 0x23 0x140 0x140 0x286 0x286 0x27f 0x286 0x39 +<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +LQIRETRY for LQIPHASE_NLQ +>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0xa9 Mode 0x0 +Card was paused +INTSTAT[0x8]:(SCSIINT) SELOID[0x2] SELID[0x20] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] +INTCTL[0xc0]:(SWTMINTEN|SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x10]:(SEQ_SWTMRTO) +SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x20]:(CURRFIFO_0|FIFO1FREE) +SCSISIGI[0xb6]:(P_MESGOUT|REQI|BSYI|ATNI) SCSIPHASE[0x4]:(MSG_OUT_PHASE) +SCSIBUS[0xbf] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) +SCSISEQ0[0x0] SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) +SEQCTL0[0x10]:(FASTMODE) SEQINTCTL[0x80]:(INTVEC1DSL) +SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x4]:(SELECTOUT_QFROZEN) +QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3a] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x39] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] +MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x2]:(SPIORDY) SSTAT1[0x11]:(REQINIT|PHASEMIS) +SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) +LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x80]:(PACKETIZED) +LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x81]:(LQOSTOP0) + +SCB Count = 512 CMDS_PENDING = 11 LASTSCB 0x1f3 CURRSCB 0x1f3 NEXTSCB 0xffc0 +qinstart = 59875 qinfifonext = 59883 +QINFIFO: 0x1e1 0x19b 0x1ec 0x1e8 0x1c9 0x1e4 0x1f0 0x1d5 +WAITING_TID_QUEUES: +Pending list: +469 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +496 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +484 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +457 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +488 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +492 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +411 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +481 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +499 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +508 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +419 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +451 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +414 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +406 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +450 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +417 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +500 FIFO_USE[0x1] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +403 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +501 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +Total 19 +Kernel Free SCB lists: + Any Device: 468 461 497 449 502 487 480 416 454 467 506 478 505 503 494 400 459 412 489 420 498 485 495 464 460 410 421 483 455 507 458 409 404 493 511 448 399 472 408 415 418 413 482 490 452 476 407 510 477 401 466 473 463 479 471 491 405 462 465 456 486 402 504 429 422 423 424 470 425 426 475 474 427 428 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 509 453 447 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 437 438 439 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 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68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 +Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: +Sequencer Complete list: +Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: +Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: + + +ahd0: FIFO0 Active, LONGJMP == 0x2db, SCB 0x1a1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0xc]:(DIRECTION|HDMAEN) DFSTATUS[0x8]:(HDONE) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0xa2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x6]:(DATAINFIFO|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x07e154006, SHCNT = 0xfffffa +HADDR = 0x01568a00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) + +ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8286, SCB 0x1c1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 +HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) +LQIN: 0x5 0x0 0x1 0xa1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x40 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x2 0x0 +ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x1f, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 +ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 +ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 + +SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) +CCSCBCTL[0x0] +ahd0: REG0 == 0x9e60, SINDEX = 0x111, DINDEX = 0x106 +ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x1a1, SCB_NEXT == 0x1c2, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff0a +CDB 2a 0 3 80 a0 41 +STACK: 0x36 0x24 0x140 0x140 0x286 0x286 0x27f 0x2db +<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +ahd0: Recovery Initiated - Card was not paused +>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0xa9 Mode 0x0 +INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x2] SELID[0x20] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] +INTCTL[0xc0]:(SWTMINTEN|SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x10]:(SEQ_SWTMRTO) +SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x20]:(CURRFIFO_0|FIFO1FREE) +SCSISIGI[0xb6]:(P_MESGOUT|REQI|BSYI|ATNI) SCSIPHASE[0x0] +SCSIBUS[0xbf] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) +SCSISEQ0[0x0] SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) +SEQCTL0[0x10]:(FASTMODE) SEQINTCTL[0x80]:(INTVEC1DSL) +SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS2[0x4]:(SELECTOUT_QFROZEN) +QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3a] KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x39] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] +MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x2]:(SPIORDY) SSTAT1[0x11]:(REQINIT|PHASEMIS) +SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) +LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x80]:(PACKETIZED) +LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x81]:(LQOSTOP0) + +SCB Count = 512 CMDS_PENDING = 11 LASTSCB 0x1f3 CURRSCB 0x1f3 NEXTSCB 0xffc0 +qinstart = 59875 qinfifonext = 59890 +QINFIFO: 0x1e1 0x19b 0x1ec 0x1e8 0x1c9 0x1e4 0x1f0 0x1d5 0x1d4 0x1cd 0x1f1 0x1c1 0x1f6 0x1e7 0x1e0 +WAITING_TID_QUEUES: +Pending list: +480 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +487 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x17] +502 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +449 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +497 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +461 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +468 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +469 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +496 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +484 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +457 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +488 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +492 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +411 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +481 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +499 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +508 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +419 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +451 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +414 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +406 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +450 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +417 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +500 FIFO_USE[0x1] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +403 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +501 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +Total 26 +Kernel Free SCB lists: + Any Device: 416 454 467 506 478 505 503 494 400 459 412 489 420 498 485 495 464 460 410 421 483 455 507 458 409 404 493 511 448 399 472 408 415 418 413 482 490 452 476 407 510 477 401 466 473 463 479 471 491 405 462 465 456 486 402 504 429 422 423 424 470 425 426 475 474 427 428 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 509 453 447 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 437 438 439 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 24! 2 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 +Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: +Sequencer Complete list: +Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: +Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: + + +ahd0: FIFO0 Active, LONGJMP == 0x2db, SCB 0x1a1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0xc]:(DIRECTION|HDMAEN) DFSTATUS[0x8]:(HDONE) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0xa2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x6]:(DATAINFIFO|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x07e154006, SHCNT = 0xfffffa +HADDR = 0x01568a00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) + +ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8286, SCB 0x1c1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 +HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) +LQIN: 0x5 0x0 0x1 0xa1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x40 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x2 0x0 +ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x1f, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 +ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 +ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 + +SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) +CCSCBCTL[0x0] +ahd0: REG0 == 0x9e60, SINDEX = 0x111, DINDEX = 0x106 +ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x1a1, SCB_NEXT == 0x1c2, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff0a +CDB 2a 0 3 80 a0 41 +STACK: 0x36 0x24 0x140 0x140 0x286 0x286 0x27f 0x2db +<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 499 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 508 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 419 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 451 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 414 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 406 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 450 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 417 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 500 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 403 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCB 501 - timed out +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Other SCB Timeout +ahd0: Recovery Initiated - Card was not paused +>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< +ahd0: Dumping Card State at program address 0x34 Mode 0x0 +INTSTAT[0x0] SELOID[0x2] SELID[0x20] HS_MAILBOX[0x0] +INTCTL[0xc0]:(SWTMINTEN|SWTMINTMASK) SEQINTSTAT[0x10]:(SEQ_SWTMRTO) +SAVED_MODE[0x11] DFFSTAT[0x20]:(CURRFIFO_0|FIFO1FREE) +SCSISIGI[0xb6]:(P_MESGOUT|REQI|BSYI|ATNI) SCSIPHASE[0x0] +SCSIBUS[0xbf] LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_DATAOUT|P_BUSFREE) +SCSISEQ0[0x0] SCSISEQ1[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI) +SEQCTL0[0x10]:(FASTMODE) SEQINTCTL[0x0] SEQ_FLAGS[0x0] +SEQ_FLAGS2[0x4]:(SELECTOUT_QFROZEN) QFREEZE_COUNT[0x3a] +KERNEL_QFREEZE_COUNT[0x39] MK_MESSAGE_SCB[0xff00] +MK_MESSAGE_SCSIID[0xff] SSTAT0[0x2]:(SPIORDY) SSTAT1[0x11]:(REQINIT|PHASEMIS) +SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] PERRDIAG[0x0] SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) +LQISTAT0[0x0] LQISTAT1[0x0] LQISTAT2[0x80]:(PACKETIZED) +LQOSTAT0[0x0] LQOSTAT1[0x0] LQOSTAT2[0x81]:(LQOSTOP0) + +SCB Count = 512 CMDS_PENDING = 11 LASTSCB 0x1f3 CURRSCB 0x1f3 NEXTSCB 0xffc0 +qinstart = 59875 qinfifonext = 59890 +QINFIFO: 0x1e1 0x19b 0x1ec 0x1e8 0x1c9 0x1e4 0x1f0 0x1d5 0x1d4 0x1cd 0x1f1 0x1c1 0x1f6 0x1e7 0x1e0 +WAITING_TID_QUEUES: +Pending list: +480 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +487 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x17] +502 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +449 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +497 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +461 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +468 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +469 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +496 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +484 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +457 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +488 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +492 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +411 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +481 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x68]:(STATUS_RCVD|TAG_ENB|DISCENB) +SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +499 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +508 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +419 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +451 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +414 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +406 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +450 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +417 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +500 FIFO_USE[0x1] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +403 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +501 FIFO_USE[0x0] SCB_CONTROL[0x60]:(TAG_ENB|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x27] +Total 26 +Kernel Free SCB lists: + Any Device: 416 454 467 506 478 505 503 494 400 459 412 489 420 498 485 495 464 460 410 421 483 455 507 458 409 404 493 511 448 399 472 408 415 418 413 482 490 452 476 407 510 477 401 466 473 463 479 471 491 405 462 465 456 486 402 504 429 422 423 424 470 425 426 475 474 427 428 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 509 453 447 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 437 438 439 398 397 396 395 394 393 392 391 390 389 388 387 386 385 384 383 382 381 380 379 378 377 376 375 374 373 372 371 370 369 368 367 366 365 364 363 362 361 360 359 358 357 356 355 354 353 352 351 350 349 348 347 346 345 344 343 342 341 340 339 338 337 336 335 334 333 332 331 330 329 328 327 326 325 324 323 322 321 320 319 318 317 316 315 314 313 312 311 310 309 308 307 306 305 304 303 302 301 300 299 298 297 296 295 294 293 292 291 290 289 288 287 286 285 284 283 282 281 280 279 278 277 276 275 274 273 272 271 270 269 268 267 266 265 264 263 262 261 260 259 258 257 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 24! 2 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 +Sequencer Complete DMA-inprog list: +Sequencer Complete list: +Sequencer DMA-Up and Complete list: +Sequencer On QFreeze and Complete list: + + +ahd0: FIFO0 Active, LONGJMP == 0x2db, SCB 0x1a1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0xc]:(DIRECTION|HDMAEN) DFSTATUS[0x8]:(HDONE) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0xa2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x6]:(DATAINFIFO|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x07e154006, SHCNT = 0xfffffa +HADDR = 0x01568a00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) + +ahd0: FIFO1 Free, LONGJMP == 0x8286, SCB 0x1c1 +SEQIMODE[0x3f]:(ENCFG4TCMD|ENCFG4ICMD|ENCFG4TSTAT|ENCFG4ISTAT|ENCFG4DATA|ENSAVEPTRS) +SEQINTSRC[0x0] DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL) +SG_CACHE_SHADOW[0x2]:(LAST_SEG) SG_STATE[0x0] DFFSXFRCTL[0x0] +SOFFCNT[0x1] MDFFSTAT[0x5]:(FIFOFREE|DLZERO) SHADDR = 0x00, SHCNT = 0x0 +HADDR = 0x00, HCNT = 0x0 CCSGCTL[0x10]:(SG_CACHE_AVAIL) +LQIN: 0x5 0x0 0x1 0xa1 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x40 0x0 0x0 0x0 0x2 0x0 +ahd0: LQISTATE = 0x1f, LQOSTATE = 0x0, OPTIONMODE = 0x42 +ahd0: OS_SPACE_CNT = 0x20 MAXCMDCNT = 0x1 +ahd0: SAVED_SCSIID = 0x0 SAVED_LUN = 0x0 + +SIMODE0[0xc]:(ENOVERRUN|ENIOERR) +CCSCBCTL[0x0] +ahd0: REG0 == 0x9e60, SINDEX = 0x100, DINDEX = 0x106 +ahd0: SCBPTR == 0x1a1, SCB_NEXT == 0x1c2, SCB_NEXT2 == 0xff0a +CDB 2a 0 3 80 a0 41 +STACK: 0x24 0x140 0x140 0x286 0x286 0x27f 0x2db 0x33 +<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): SCB 488 - timed out +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): Other SCB Timeout +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): No other SCB worth waiting for... +ahd0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 26 SCBs aborted +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): WRITE(6). CDB: a 0 1 1f 20 0 +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): SCSI bus reset occurred field replaceable unit: 2 +(da0:ahd0:0:1:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): WRITE(6). CDB: a 1c b6 3f 20 0 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,2 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCSI bus reset occurred field replaceable unit: 2 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): WRITE(10). CDB: 2a 0 3 ec a1 7f 0 0 20 0 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): CAM Status: SCSI Status Error +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): SCSI Status: Check Condition +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): ABORTED COMMAND info:3eca17f asc:47,3 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Information unit iuCRC error detected field replaceable unit: 8 +(da1:ahd0:0:2:0): Retrying Command (per Sense Data) From nlandys at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 18:53:30 2009 From: nlandys at gmail.com (Nerius Landys) Date: Sun Aug 2 18:53:36 2009 Subject: Advice on secure, simple web forum software Message-ID: <560f92640908021153n1b8e5f88xc5c4be54385b52fb@mail.gmail.com> One of my not-for-profit websites is increasing in popularity and users are requesting forums. I am going to add forums now, but I'm not sure which route to take: 1. Install the forums software so it runs on my webserver. 2. Use some third-party forums website [with their advertising probably]. I much prefer #1 to avoid any advertising (which my website is completely free of). Packages currently installed on my system that may be relevant are: apache-2.2.11_7 php5-5.2.10 I would like to get some recommendations on which route to take. If I'm going to install forums to run directly on my server, the software needs to be secure (as few bugs or loopholes, exploits as possible), the same UNIX user will be running a couple of other small sites. Also simplicity of design is preferred, feature bloat and dependencies are bad. I'm willing to install a database such as MySQL. From tajudd at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 19:53:53 2009 From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd) Date: Sun Aug 2 19:54:00 2009 Subject: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-09:12.bind In-Reply-To: <200907290048.n6T0mZ0D001225@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200907290048.n6T0mZ0D001225@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Trying to apply this to a 6.4 box with no manpages install. Install fails because the man3 directory doesn't exist. is this expected? Adding the src.conf knob of WITHOUT_MAN=1 still prevents the updated libraries to install. I'm just following the directions on the advisory and doesn't install cleanly. I'm not running named/bind on the box, so there is no immediate pressure, but I'd still like to apply the fix. Thanks! From anton at sng.by Sun Aug 2 20:08:40 2009 From: anton at sng.by (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7Uz84g69XS2NHO?=) Date: Sun Aug 2 20:08:47 2009 Subject: Analyze load of the channel to Internet Message-ID: <8652e7930908021308k2bdd0d3cj13ebc34383c0c32e@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody... Need to view and get real-time reporting of outgoing channel to Internet? I think, that this is may be realized by means of ipfw (e.g. - get counters of count rules for Internet and divide them to time, which passed between analyzing) But, maybe, there is an utility, to which I can communicate (or which could analyze) my outgoing channel to Internet - and report me (mean some redirection script) when an outgoing channel gets overflowed, and I need to redirect all other outgoing traffic to another channel. I would like to clear: I have to channels for Internet, meaned for gaming club - but I don't have enough finance to afford buying some Cisco device and this 2 channel are 512 kilobits and 768 kilobits of outgoing traffic Please, help From sseekamp at risei.net Sun Aug 2 20:57:04 2009 From: sseekamp at risei.net (Scott Seekamp) Date: Sun Aug 2 20:57:11 2009 Subject: USB Vendor ID's Message-ID: I have 2 servers running what should be identical copies of 7.2 release. I am plugging in an Apple USB Ethernet adapter and on one server I get this: ugen3: on uhub7 and on the other I get this: ugen0: on uhub0 What would cause the device id to be recognized on one server and not the other? They both have identical kernel configs. Thanks Scott From djuatdelta at gmail.com Sun Aug 2 21:05:41 2009 From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood) Date: Sun Aug 2 21:05:48 2009 Subject: FreeBSD & IBM Thinkpad - What Model to Choose? In-Reply-To: <20090802111651.5b7cca9b@bobcat.edu> References: <20090802111651.5b7cca9b@bobcat.edu> Message-ID: I've had great success with my my T43. I strongly recommend it. From rbooth at juniper.net Sun Aug 2 21:24:35 2009 From: rbooth at juniper.net (Randy Booth) Date: Sun Aug 2 21:24:41 2009 Subject: FreeBSD & IBM Thinkpad - What Model to Choose? In-Reply-To: References: <20090802111651.5b7cca9b@bobcat.edu> Message-ID: <4BD66FC255394E49AF2EC47B4E7974173C72E2E52D@EMBX01-HQ.jnpr.net> Avoid T42 (2374-K5U). Everything works fine, but it's an oddball version apparently and there is next to no documentation regarding it on many of the wiki sites. There are many decent models of T42. I'd just avoid this particular model to avoid confusion. Thanks, Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Underwood Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:06 PM To: herbert langhans Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & IBM Thinkpad - What Model to Choose? I've had great success with my my T43. I strongly recommend it. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From alexbestms at math.uni-muenster.de Sun Aug 2 21:51:19 2009 From: alexbestms at math.uni-muenster.de (Alexander Best) Date: Sun Aug 2 21:51:26 2009 Subject: strange ee behaviour Message-ID: this issue still exists in BETA-2. imo it really needs to be fixed before the release of 8.0. if i were to test a new OS and discover that it comes with an editor which crashes when opening a new term i'd be very frustrated. alex From frank at shute.org.uk Mon Aug 3 00:52:27 2009 From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute) Date: Mon Aug 3 00:52:34 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090731112909.GA53554@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 02:32:49AM -0400, Daniel Underwood wrote: > > Can anyone suggest a fast graphical web browser? I use Firefox > (because every page displays well and I can sync bookmarks), and I > also use elinks (when graphics don't matter). I'm looking for some > middle ground, a browser that can display most sites well but is > faster (or more lightweight) than Firefox. (Note: I tried dillo, but > it doesn't display most sites well enough.) You could give galeon a try. Disclaimer: I used it for a bit years ago, so no idea what it's like now. > > TIA, > Daniel Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From Ggatten at waddell.com Mon Aug 3 01:55:24 2009 From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten) Date: Mon Aug 3 01:55:31 2009 Subject: Analyze load of the channel to Internet Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2AB@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> almost any NIC / OS will support SNMP MIB-II counters, which includes octets Tx and Rx. MANY tools available for "getting" snmp mib values. If you want util AND details on IP, ports, etc. - check out nTop.org ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sun Aug 02 15:08:38 2009 Subject: Analyze load of the channel to Internet Hello everybody... Need to view and get real-time reporting of outgoing channel to Internet? I think, that this is may be realized by means of ipfw (e.g. - get counters of count rules for Internet and divide them to time, which passed between analyzing) But, maybe, there is an utility, to which I can communicate (or which could analyze) my outgoing channel to Internet - and report me (mean some redirection script) when an outgoing channel gets overflowed, and I need to redirect all other outgoing traffic to another channel. I would like to clear: I have to channels for Internet, meaned for gaming club - but I don't have enough finance to afford buying some Cisco device and this 2 channel are 512 kilobits and 768 kilobits of outgoing traffic Please, help _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"

-- Mel From cperciva at freebsd.org Mon Aug 3 22:30:44 2009 From: cperciva at freebsd.org (Colin Percival) Date: Mon Aug 3 22:30:59 2009 Subject: freebsd-update & userland sources In-Reply-To: <200908031409.46060.mel.flynn+fbsd.ports@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <9EC698AF-15E1-4B95-A7BB-B0E4B7063B25@optusnet.com.au> <200908031409.46060.mel.flynn+fbsd.ports@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <4A776512.9020509@freebsd.org> > On Sunday 02 August 2009 16:10:37 Tom Mende wrote: >> Is there a way to get freebsd-update to keep userland sources up to >> date? Yes. If you have source code installed (for the right version of FreeBSD) in /usr/src, then freebsd-update will keep it updated. (Slight complication: Because freebsd-update builds are normally done before patches are committed to SVN, you won't get the updated SVN revision numbers or the new entries in UPDATING via freebsd-update -- but you will get all of the security/errata fixes.) -- Colin Percival Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid From alexbestms at math.uni-muenster.de Mon Aug 3 22:51:38 2009 From: alexbestms at math.uni-muenster.de (Alexander Best) Date: Mon Aug 3 22:51:45 2009 Subject: BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER vs. machdep.enable_panic_key=1 Message-ID: just wanted to ask what the difference between the following ways of enabling the panic key is: options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER (kernelconf) machdep.enable_panic_key=1 (sysctl) i first thought having BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER in the kernelconf would change the default setting of machdep.enable_panic_key from 0 to 1, but both options don't seem to be linked to each other. alex From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 22:53:06 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Mon Aug 3 22:53:14 2009 Subject: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> Message-ID: <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: > Yesterday I noticed something weird with one of my mail servers (FreeBSD > 7.2), which is located far away from me. ?At first I thought it was my mail > client that was misbehaving since a couple of mails that I retrieved from > the server looked...odd. ?Characters were missing, and the mail headers were > sometimes (perhaps 1 out of 100 mails) sort of scrambled. > > This server isn't doing anything really useful, except handling a few mails > every day. ?No load at all and it has been running for a few months without > any problems. > > Anyway, after some time I realized that Thunderbird probably wasn't the > problem. ?I discovered that ssh connections suddenly dropped (seems random) > when I was connected to the server. ?Often with messages like: > > Received disconnect from x.x.x.x: 2: Bad packet length 3365265859. > > I tried to ping it and I constantly got 5-15% packet loss. ?The same > symptoms are there if I connect to it from other places, so my home > connection isn't the problem. ?I get 0 packet loss if I ping the gateway > which the server is behind from my home connection. > > Anyway, while I was connected to the machine (and scratching my head) I did > a csup from the server to fetch ports and other stuff, but that failed every > time, with different messages: > > 1st try: > > ?Edit ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > ?Add delta 1.625 2009.08.03.15.36.58 miwi > ?Edit ports/UPDATING > ?Add delta 1.845 2009.08.03.19.08.48 dougb > csup: inflate: invalid stored block lengths > > 2nd try: > > ?Edit ports/devel/libvc/Makefile > ?Add delta 1.11 2009.08.02.19.33.28 mezz > ?Edit ports/devel/libytnef/Makefile > ?Add delta 1.6 2009.08.02.19.33.28 mezz > Receiver: Protocol error > > 3rd try: > > Edit ports/devel/p5-threads-shared/distinfo > ?Add delta 1.4 2009.07.22.17.25.14 pgollucci > ?Edit ports/devel/p5-usb/pkg-plist > ?Add delta 1.3 2009.07.30.23.04.41 pgollucci > csup: inflate: invalid distance too far back > > Ok. ?So something is messed up. > > Checked my other server (located at the same place) to see if there were any > problems (it is running VMware ESXI with 4 virtual machines, all running > FreeBSD 7.2.), but all of the virtual hosts were fine. ?No packet loss, no > ssh problems, no nothing. ?This server is connected to the same switch and > behind the same gateway. ?So are also a bunch of Windows servers. ?None of > them have any problems. > > Checked the logs on my mail server to see if there were anything weird...and > the logs were filled with this: > > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:c7:24:69:ae to 00:16:cf:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:cf:24:69:ae to 00:16:c7:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:c7:24:69:ae to 00:16:cf:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:cf:24:69:ae to 00:16:c7:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:c7:24:69:ae to 00:16:cf:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:cf:24:69:ae to 00:16:c7:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:c7:24:69:ae to 00:16:cf:24:69:ae on bge0 > arp: x.x.x.x moved from 00:16:cf:24:69:ae to 00:16:c7:24:69:ae on bge0 > > x.x.x.x is my gateway which all my servers are behind. ?These messages > started yesterday, about the same time that the problems appeared. > > Any ideas? :-) > I have 2: 1.) Bad NIC 2.) Bad CPU A while back, I found out I had a bad CPU after replacing everything else on the machine -- I would still receive CRC mismatch errors with portsnap(8). The NIC is more probable IMHO, but both should be suspect here. -- Glen Barber From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Mon Aug 3 23:16:32 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Mon Aug 3 23:16:38 2009 Subject: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908031616w15b8a16fw29a52f5b5168f713@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > I have 2: > 1.) Bad NIC > 2.) Bad CPU > > A while back, I found out I had a bad CPU after replacing everything > else on the machine -- I would still receive CRC mismatch errors with > portsnap(8). > > The NIC is more probable IMHO, but both should be suspect here. > Now that I think about it... Do you do regular builds? Can you try to 'buildworld' (assuming you can get csup to pull the source tree? If CPU is the problem, you may experience random SIGSEGV errors when running the buildworld. If it fails in different areas of the build, this is most likely (from my experience) the problem. -- Glen Barber From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Tue Aug 4 00:04:34 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Tue Aug 4 00:04:43 2009 Subject: gmirror on different disks In-Reply-To: <41b95770907310324j397b5810v6793c9c314f8ce61@mail.gmail.com> References: <41b95770907310324j397b5810v6793c9c314f8ce61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908031604.31455.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Friday 31 July 2009 02:24:31 Grzegorz Danecki wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I'm just wondering, I had gmirror with two disks: > > Master: ad0 Serial ATA II > Master: ad2 Serial ATA II > > unfortunately ad0 failed today, leaving me with degraded array and ad0 > offline. > > I did > > # gmirror forget gm0, then shutdown, ad0 was replaced with: > > ad0: 152626MB at ata0-master SATA300 > > with different firmware I think. > > Then gmirror insert gm0 /dev/ad0 > > (...) > Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider > ad0 finished. > Jul 31 09:55:46 julia kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 > activated. > > But the disk is a little bit smaller: > > 1. Name: mirror/gm0 > Mediasize: 160040803328 (149G) ^^ > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r5w5e6 > Consumers: > 1. Name: ad2 > Mediasize: 160041885696 (149G) ^^ > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r1w1e1 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > GenID: 1 > SyncID: 1 > ID: 3791030614 > 2. Name: ad0 > Mediasize: 160040803840 (149G) ^^ > Sectorsize: 512 > Mode: r1w1e1 > State: ACTIVE > Priority: 0 > Flags: DIRTY > GenID: 1 > SyncID: 1 > ID: 2477089776 > > # gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad2 > ad0 > I mean - should I make the RAID once again with exactly the same drives, or > can I leave it as it is right now? The mirror rescaled to the size of the smallest provider and didn't report any problems during sync, so you should be fine. -- Mel From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Tue Aug 4 00:15:46 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Tue Aug 4 00:16:11 2009 Subject: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? In-Reply-To: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> References: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908031615.42843.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Friday 31 July 2009 10:15:56 markham roan wrote: > A packet capture revealed a number of anomalies. Once the server starts > trying to join the domain, we get all sorts of TCP transmission errors, > retries, duplicate ACKs etc. In some cases, the public side of the > firewall will send an ICMP host-unreachable message for a host which is > clearly being BINAT. > > I've tinkered with net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen, but it doesn't seem to > help. net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops isn't increasing at a noticeable rate, > anyway. > > Does anyone have any thoughts and/or advice on where I can go from here? No experience with the case at hand, but I do see that Vista started to use IGMP protocol even when there's no obvious need to do so. Given that "allow all" does in fact only allow a handful of IP protocols, excluding IGMP, you may want to investigate if you're not silently blocking (or not translating) one of the more obscure IP protocols. -- Mel From fbsdlilly at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 00:29:35 2009 From: fbsdlilly at gmail.com (mojo fms) Date: Tue Aug 4 00:29:42 2009 Subject: Windows 2008 + AD + PF + bridge = problems? In-Reply-To: <200908031615.42843.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <548f3c460907311115y5e89341ds91b43cd62c16dbf4@mail.gmail.com> <200908031615.42843.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Mel Flynn < mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net > wrote: > On Friday 31 July 2009 10:15:56 markham roan wrote: > > > A packet capture revealed a number of anomalies. Once the server starts > > trying to join the domain, we get all sorts of TCP transmission errors, > > retries, duplicate ACKs etc. In some cases, the public side of the > > firewall will send an ICMP host-unreachable message for a host which is > > clearly being BINAT. > > > > I've tinkered with net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen, but it doesn't seem to > > help. net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops isn't increasing at a noticeable > rate, > > anyway. > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts and/or advice on where I can go from here? > > No experience with the case at hand, but I do see that Vista started to use > IGMP protocol even when there's no obvious need to do so. Given that "allow > all" does in fact only allow a handful of IP protocols, excluding IGMP, you > may want to investigate if you're not silently blocking (or not > translating) > one of the more obscure IP protocols. > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This might be way off base but I had a server that had issues like that and it ended up being the network cable going bad. It would send an ack but if you captured the ack and other packets at the destination server it would be missing bits. I have personally not had an issue with a pf firewall and server 2008 joining a 2003 domain but network card or cable could cause an issue like that. What does tcpdump tell you on the firewall when monitoring PF while it joins, what rule(s) is it using when it joins? -- Who knew From keramida at ceid.upatras.gr Tue Aug 4 01:01:06 2009 From: keramida at ceid.upatras.gr (Giorgos Keramidas) Date: Tue Aug 4 01:01:15 2009 Subject: Sendmail Masqurading and root mails References: <4A763BDD.2010308@dannysplace.net> <4A767180.7080108@dannysplace.net> Message-ID: <87ab2gtmsx.fsf@kobe.laptop> On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:11:28 +1000, Danny Carroll wrote: > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >> I found the answer to your problem here: >> >> http://www.grok.org.uk/docs/smroot.html >> >> The file that is being included which has the >> >> EXPOSED_USER(`root') >> >> line lives at >> >> /usr/share/sendmail/cf/domain/generic.m4 > > It seems your google-fu is much better than mine. > Thanks so much for your help. There are a *lot* of details like this in your system. It just takes a bit of experience to look for the ``right option name'' and a bit of time to read through the file: /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README The part that hints at the default expose option for the `root' user reads: : Normally only header addresses are masqueraded. If you want to : masquerade the envelope as well, use : : FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope') : : There are always users that need to be "exposed" -- that is, their : internal site name should be displayed instead of the masquerade name. : Root is an example (which has been "exposed" by default prior to 8.10). : You can add users to this list using : : EXPOSED_USER(`usernames') There's a great amount of information in that README file. I often find by re-reading it that there are still details I was missing so far :-) From modulok at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 02:28:54 2009 From: modulok at gmail.com (Modulok) Date: Tue Aug 4 02:29:01 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! Message-ID: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing something... There seems to be a lot of superstition about entropy. People have come up with quite creative ways at generating passwords using everything from dice in a shoebox to radio static recorded with a mic, to dedicated entropy hardware. Most seem to discourage using any computer program to generate passwords. The reasoning is that computers employ "only" pseudo-random number generator (PRNG, henceforth). I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired length. Blasphemy! According to the superstitious password crowd my passwords are not very secure ... maybe. However, wouldn't hashing bytes from /dev/random be quite secure? The hash function would cover any readily apparent patterns, if they were found to existed. Both sha256 and yarrow are, to date, believed to be cryptographically secure. (Assuming the implementations are correct.) Therefore, using a cryptographically secure pseudo-random number generator and an equally secure hash function should be damn well good enough, right? I'd think that listening for cosmic background radiation or environmental infrared is drifting a little far from being in the realm of practical. Right? Just looking for any re-assurances. -Modulok- From wmoran at potentialtech.com Tue Aug 4 02:35:09 2009 From: wmoran at potentialtech.com (Bill Moran) Date: Tue Aug 4 02:35:16 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090803223427.511879f2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Modulok wrote: > > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > something... You could just use apg ... it's in the ports. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 02:39:20 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 02:39:27 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908031939m3cb6fdefo83ee1adee63915cf@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Modulok wrote: > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > something... Have a look at jot(1). -- Glen Barber From kurt.buff at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 03:40:24 2009 From: kurt.buff at gmail.com (Kurt Buff) Date: Tue Aug 4 03:40:31 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 19:28, Modulok wrote: > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > something... Gah. Define "secure". What is your use case? Does it involve humans remembering them, or not? What is your threat model? Will the passwords change once a day, once a month, or once a year? What's the value of the data you're protecting? Kurt From andrewberry at sentex.net Tue Aug 4 04:12:17 2009 From: andrewberry at sentex.net (Andrew Berry) Date: Tue Aug 4 04:12:24 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3-Aug-09, at 10:28 PM, Modulok wrote: > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > something... Take a look at pwgen (it's in ports). If you're really needing *very* secure passwords, it makes more sense to audit existing code then to write your own. The passwords it generates can quite easily be strong enough to prevent most automated attacks. --Andrew From the.real.david.allen at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 06:00:46 2009 From: the.real.david.allen at gmail.com (David Allen) Date: Tue Aug 4 06:00:53 2009 Subject: Manual Installations on Flash Media In-Reply-To: <20090803214425.58580308.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <2daa8b4e0908011421x3142425fm69eef6df8ebf4309@mail.gmail.com> <20090803214425.58580308.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0908032300m3ae4be7ft9a42445ddda17197@mail.gmail.com> On 8/3/09, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:21:02 -0700, David Allen > wrote: > > I need to create a FreeBSD installation on an SSD drive (connected via > > a USB adaptor), and would like to do so manually so as to avoid the > > use of an installation CD, PXE or sysinstall. > > > > 1. Would a device alphabetical order (as used by bsdlabel) work? > > I think it's no problem. My /etc/fstab looks that way: > > /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad0s1d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2 Knowing that will make things easier when editing the disklabel and adding corresponding entries in fstab. > > 2. I don't expect the system to swap, so can I dispense with a swap > > entry and have everything function normally (no error messages, etc.)? > > I don't know how to "expect" swapping. As far as I understood, the > system decides by itself if to write data to / read data from the swap > file. Something got lost in the translation. "I don't expect" is an idiomatic form of "I estimate a low probability of swapping". > I'm not sure if you can omit it. Haven't done an actual NanoBSD installation on flash, but my reading of the setup is that there is no swap partition whatsoever. Guess I'll have to experiment to find out for myself. > > 3. Will adding `noatime' to / or any other filesystem have any > > consequences? > > Yes. The access time for files won't be recorded. Using the noatime > option is often advised for the use with SSD media, so is ANY advice > that helps to minimize read / write cycles in order to increase the > life time of the media. Just wanted to be sure. I'm still open to using md devices for /var and /tmp (with a cron-ed sync to disk) possibly in conjunction with remote logging, but one of the reasons I opted for SSD over regular flash is to avoid that extra layer of complexity. Thanks for the reply. From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Tue Aug 4 06:20:53 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Tue Aug 4 06:21:00 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908032220.50964.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: > I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the output > with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired length. > Blasphemy! According to the superstitious password crowd my passwords > are not very secure ... maybe. They aren't, because you reduce the random to a much less random, *because* you are hashing. You're much better off, using ctype to determine if the byte you got is typeable on a keyboard and if not getting the next byte. Or use an array of allowed characters and read the rands as integers modulus the size of the array. But as others have stated, you're reinventing the wheel, and even FreeBSD's adduser(8) can generate random passwords that are suitable for most uses. You should really answer Kurt's questions to determine how secure they should be. As far as Pseudo generators go, they will generate the same sequence for the same seed, so if the seed is guessable by an attacker, you should not use them. -- Mel From perryh at pluto.rain.com Tue Aug 4 07:02:18 2009 From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com) Date: Tue Aug 4 07:02:25 2009 Subject: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a77db85.YjBDPg0yifmYRuT9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Glen Barber wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] > > Any ideas? :-) > > > I have 2: > 1.) Bad NIC > 2.) Bad CPU 3. Bad cable from NIC to switch 4. Bad switch port These may not be all that likely, but they're easy to test if you have even a marginally-competent tech available at the site. From joel at vnode.se Tue Aug 4 07:10:35 2009 From: joel at vnode.se (Joel Dahl) Date: Tue Aug 4 07:10:42 2009 Subject: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908031616w15b8a16fw29a52f5b5168f713@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908031616w15b8a16fw29a52f5b5168f713@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A77DEE4.607@vnode.se> Glen Barber skrev: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> I have 2: >> 1.) Bad NIC >> 2.) Bad CPU >> >> A while back, I found out I had a bad CPU after replacing everything >> else on the machine -- I would still receive CRC mismatch errors with >> portsnap(8). >> >> The NIC is more probable IMHO, but both should be suspect here. >> > > Now that I think about it... Do you do regular builds? Can you try to > 'buildworld' (assuming you can get csup to pull the source tree? > > If CPU is the problem, you may experience random SIGSEGV errors when > running the buildworld. If it fails in different areas of the build, > this is most likely (from my experience) the problem. I've been doing buildworld -j4 for 8 hours without problems now. I'll see if I can get someone onsite to try another cable and switch port. -- Joel From stark at mapper.nl Tue Aug 4 07:24:01 2009 From: stark at mapper.nl (Mark Stapper) Date: Tue Aug 4 07:24:08 2009 Subject: ZFS Boot Support from Installer In-Reply-To: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Message-ID: <4A77DE98.5000707@mapper.nl> Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the impression I got is that support for ZFS partitions is coming to the installer in perhaps 7.3 or 8.0, and I wanted to confirm or dispel that myth before I go forward using the hacky method. > > Thanks! > > Tim Gustafson > Baskin School of Engineering > UC Santa Cruz > tjg@soe.ucsc.edu > 831-459-5354 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hello, I don't know about the "installer" but I believe the bootloader in 8.0 will (allready does) support booting from zfs. See links below for 8.0: http://lulf.geeknest.org/blog/freebsd/Setting_up_a_zfs-only_system/ for 7.x: http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRoot I'd go for 8.0 if you whish to use an all zfs system. 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My /etc/fstab looks that way: > > /dev/ad0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > /dev/ad0s1d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1f /usr ufs rw 2 2 > /dev/ad0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2 > > > > >> 2. I don't expect the system to swap, so can I dispense with a swap entry >> and have everything function normally (no error messages, etc.)? >> > > I don't know how to "expect" swapping. As far as I understood, the > system decides by itself if to write data to / read data from the > swap file. I'm not sure if you can omit it. > > > > >> 3. Will adding `noatime' to / or any other filesystem have any >> consequences? >> > > Yes. The access time for files won't be recorded. Using the noatime > option is often advised for the use with SSD media, so is ANY advice > that helps to minimize read / write cycles in order to increase the > life time of the media. > > > > You may want to look at the link below. It describes how to install freebsd on an USB-pendrive. http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/4/13/installing-freebsd-on-usb-stick-episode-2 It notes that /var/log /var/run and /tmp should not be written to flash memory. You can use memory devices for these directories to minimize disk writes. If you want, you can backup/and repopulate these directories on shutdown/startup. Hope it helps! Mark -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is very easy to generate hard-to-guess semi-random passwords: openssl rand -base64 6 some examples: hJ9WQ0eK oOyHWEd4 W801vDIB mob29k5I RVDXkE/9 7BRHC+8h Even though this is semi-random, these are still extremely hard to guess, and neither will a dictionary attack be much use. The _big_ downside is that this kind of passwords are hard to remember. So people _will_ write them down. Which isn't a problem in itself, as long as they keep that piece of paper secure. (so not taped to their monitor, or under their keyboard.) A better solution IMHO is to let people make their own acronyms, mixed with a little l33tsp34k. That way you can have something easy to remember, but still hard to guess. E.g. "Ask not for whom the bell tolls" would become "An4wtbt". 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20090804/6205bc0e/attachment.pgp From stark at mapper.nl Tue Aug 4 08:15:10 2009 From: stark at mapper.nl (Mark Stapper) Date: Tue Aug 4 08:15:18 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <200908031416.30084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> Neal Hogan wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel > Flynn wrote: > >> On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: >> >>> 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ????? : >>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk < >>>> >>>> frederique@isafeelin.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Odhiambo ????? wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is ftps? >>>>>> >>>>> # grep ftps /etc/services >>>>> ftps-data 989/tcp # ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL >>>>> ftps-data 989/udp >>>>> ftps 990/tcp # ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL >>>>> ftps 990/udp >>>>> >>>> pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. >>>> >>>> I am wondering if it can do this. >>>> >>> I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps" too. Perhaps, he could >>> explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. >>> >> When in doubt, use "she". :) >> > > I wasn't in doubt, but perhaps my chauvinism reared its head. I > apologize if I offended anyone. > > It's actually quite funny that you bring this up, because I'm involved > in a thread on debian-user@ with this topic. I (correctly) referred to > someone as Mr. So-n-so and others questioned my choice of masculine > reference. > > >> -- >> Mel >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats.... and institutions like the court... (well in dutch we do...) However, Frederique should imply the person who started this thread is female. Either that or cette person has cruel parents... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20090804/ea885a92/signature.pgp From mexas at bristol.ac.uk Tue Aug 4 08:18:48 2009 From: mexas at bristol.ac.uk (Anton Shterenlikht) Date: Tue Aug 4 08:18:56 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <20090804075221.GA3909@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090804075221.GA3909@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20090804081841.GC74277@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: > > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > > something... > > It is very easy to generate hard-to-guess semi-random passwords: > > openssl rand -base64 6 > > some examples: > > hJ9WQ0eK oOyHWEd4 W801vDIB mob29k5I RVDXkE/9 7BRHC+8h > > Even though this is semi-random, these are still extremely hard to > guess, and neither will a dictionary attack be much use. The _big_ > downside is that this kind of passwords are hard to remember. So people > _will_ write them down. Which isn't a problem in itself, as long as they > keep that piece of paper secure. (so not taped to their monitor, or > under their keyboard.) > > A better solution IMHO is to let people make their own acronyms, mixed > with a little l33tsp34k. That way you can have something easy to > remember, but still hard to guess. E.g. "Ask not for whom the bell > tolls" would become "An4wtbt". I really like the VMS password generation facility: UAF> modify donkey/generate_password tratworman cralopyter bosequism coshindius jaritions Enter PRIMARY password: clumiump wrielene guirtiety scapress primpatly Enter PRIMARY password: odliesting conetred emenstate ammycle rasests ... You are given a choice of 5 passwords to choose from. If you don't like any, keep going until something comes up that's easy to remember for you. The system manager can specify the min required length. I think this is a really nice utility, and VMS systems are very rarely compromised, though perhaps VMS users are better trained in password safe keeping. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From peter at boosten.org Tue Aug 4 08:32:24 2009 From: peter at boosten.org (Peter Boosten) Date: Tue Aug 4 08:32:31 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <20090804081841.GC74277@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090804075221.GA3909@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090804081841.GC74277@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4A77F20F.5060500@boosten.org> Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 09:52:21AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:28:52PM -0600, Modulok wrote: >>> I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all >>> about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing >>> something... >> It is very easy to generate hard-to-guess semi-random passwords: >> >> openssl rand -base64 6 >> >> some examples: >> >> hJ9WQ0eK oOyHWEd4 W801vDIB mob29k5I RVDXkE/9 7BRHC+8h >> >> Even though this is semi-random, these are still extremely hard to >> guess, and neither will a dictionary attack be much use. The _big_ >> downside is that this kind of passwords are hard to remember. So people >> _will_ write them down. Which isn't a problem in itself, as long as they >> keep that piece of paper secure. (so not taped to their monitor, or >> under their keyboard.) >> >> A better solution IMHO is to let people make their own acronyms, mixed >> with a little l33tsp34k. That way you can have something easy to >> remember, but still hard to guess. E.g. "Ask not for whom the bell >> tolls" would become "An4wtbt". > > I really like the VMS password generation facility: > > UAF> modify donkey/generate_password > > tratworman > cralopyter > bosequism > coshindius > jaritions > > Enter PRIMARY password: > > clumiump > wrielene > guirtiety > scapress > primpatly > > Enter PRIMARY password: > > odliesting > conetred > emenstate > ammycle > rasests > > ... > > You are given a choice of 5 passwords to choose from. > If you don't like any, keep going until something > comes up that's easy to remember for you. > > The system manager can specify the min required length. > > I think this is a really nice utility, and VMS systems are > very rarely compromised, though perhaps VMS users are > better trained in password safe keeping. > Password guessing will crack these in a jiffy. Hardly secure I would say... I use apg, like this: /usr/local/bin/apg -x 8 -m 8 -l -MSNCL -s 8 characters, minimal one capital, number and special sign, and I could use a previous used password (or random) as input. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From mail25 at bzerk.org Tue Aug 4 09:43:17 2009 From: mail25 at bzerk.org (Ruben de Groot) Date: Tue Aug 4 09:43:24 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <200908031416.30084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <20090804094311.GA11818@ei.bzerk.org> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:14:39AM +0200, Mark Stapper typed: > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... > So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing > list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats.... and > institutions like the court... (well in dutch we do...) > However, Frederique should imply the person who started this thread is > female. > Either that or cette person has cruel parents... > Bollocks! From lists at bertram-scharpf.de Tue Aug 4 11:26:26 2009 From: lists at bertram-scharpf.de (Bertram Scharpf) Date: Tue Aug 4 11:26:34 2009 Subject: Moused crashes with Synaptics Message-ID: <20090804112624.GB19171@marge.bs.l> Hi, an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse freezes. To analyze the problem I do the following: # /etc/rc.d/moused restart # dd if=/dev/sysmouse bs=4 | xxd -c 4 0000000: 87fb 05fb .... 0000004: 0687 f709 .... 0000008: 8787 f207 .... 000000c: 87e1 09e1 .... 0000010: 0a87 f600 .... 0000014: f600 87e2 .... 0000018: f8e3 f987 .... 000001c: f7fa f8fb .... 0000020: 87f3 f7f4 .... 0000024: f887 f3f5 .... 0000028: f3f6 87f4 .... 000002c: f3f4 f487 .... 0000030: f7f4 f8f5 .... 0000034: 87fa f5fb .... 0000038: f587 fcf5 .... 000003c: fdf6 87ff .... 0000040: f6ff f787 .... 0000044: 01f6 02f6 .... 0000048: 87 . 18+1 records in 18+1 records out 73 bytes transferred in 21.774484 secs (3 bytes/sec) # You see: dd stops without reporting an error. Obviously the moused doesn't work properly any more. Further I seem to have missed something else. I found the page http://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad where are mentioned some sysctls: hw.psm.synaptics_support="1" hw.psm.synaptics.vscroll_hor_area=1300 I don't have those ctls here and I cannot find the kernel driver that provides them. Does anybody have some advice for me? Thanks in advance. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From nealhogan at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:06:49 2009 From: nealhogan at gmail.com (Neal Hogan) Date: Tue Aug 4 12:07:00 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <200908031416.30084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Mark Stapper wrote: > Neal Hogan wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Mel >> Flynn wrote: >> >>> On Monday 03 August 2009 04:26:32 Neal Hogan wrote: >>> >>>> 2009/8/3 Odhiambo ????? : >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Frederique Rijsdijk < >>>>> >>>>> frederique@isafeelin.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Odhiambo ????? wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is ftps? >>>>>>> >>>>>> # grep ftps /etc/services >>>>>> ftps-data 989/tcp # ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL >>>>>> ftps-data 989/udp >>>>>> ftps 990/tcp # ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL >>>>>> ftps 990/udp >>>>>> >>>>> pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering if it can do this. >>>>> >>>> I was curious about the OP's use of 'ftps" too. Perhaps, he could >>>> explain what plain-old-ftp doesn't do and what he wants it to do. >>>> >>> When in doubt, use "she". :) >>> >> >> I wasn't in doubt, but perhaps my chauvinism reared its head. I >> apologize if I offended anyone. >> >> It's actually quite funny that you bring this up, because I'm involved >> in a thread on debian-user@ with this topic. I (correctly) referred to >> someone as Mr. So-n-so and others questioned my choice of masculine >> reference. >> >> >>> -- >>> Mel >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... > So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing > list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats.... and > institutions like the court... (well in dutch we do...) > However, Frederique should imply the person who started this thread is > female. Perhaps . . . > Either that or cette person has cruel parents... > > New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender when posting. From gesbbb at yahoo.com Tue Aug 4 12:48:07 2009 From: gesbbb at yahoo.com (Jerry) Date: Tue Aug 4 12:48:15 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <200908031416.30084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <20090804084805.45a1a008@scorpio.seibercom.net> On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 Neal Hogan wrote: > New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender > when posting. OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other irrelevant information. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com What makes us so bitter against people who outwit us is that they think themselves cleverer than we are. From kraduk at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 13:17:13 2009 From: kraduk at googlemail.com (chris scott) Date: Tue Aug 4 13:17:20 2009 Subject: ZFS Boot Support from Installer In-Reply-To: References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> <4A77DE98.5000707@mapper.nl> Message-ID: My zfs only system works fine but it based on 8-beta2 built around 16 May( will be rebuilding soon) The main thing to remember to do it make sure your have zfs_loader_support="yes" in your src of make.conf I based my install on this howto http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSOnRootWithZFSboot#installFreeBSD If you dont want to go for current in theory if you install the boot blocks and loader from current onto the disk you should be able to boot into 7.2 I havent tested this though On thing I would advise though is don't install the root partition in the root of the zpool I have mine like this system 68.1G 74.6G 21K /system system/home 59.3G 74.6G 59.3G /home system/local-old 952M 74.6G 952M /system/local-old system/root 4G 77.1G 1.53G legacy system/scripts 20K 74.6G 20K /usr/local/scripts system/tmp 31K 4.00G 31K /tmp system/usr-local 396M 74.6G 324M /usr/local system/usr-obj 1.85G 74.6G 1.65G /usr/obj system/usr-ports 193M 74.6G 185M /usr/ports system/usr-ports/distfiles 8.53M 74.6G 8.53M /usr/ports/distfiles system/usr-src 499M 74.6G 303M /usr/src system/var 1014M 74.6G 776M /var system/var/log 192M 74.6G 192M /var/log system/var/mysql 46.4M 74.6G 46.4M /var/db/mysql I did it like this as it is more like an opensolaris setup. If i wanted to say run a new os build I could say install it on a new zfs fs called say root_YYYYMMDD which would be a clone of the original root. I could then flip flop between these installations by resetinng the bootfs option of the pool From roberthuff at rcn.com Tue Aug 4 14:07:45 2009 From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff) Date: Tue Aug 4 14:07:52 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: <20090804084805.45a1a008@scorpio.seibercom.net> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <200908031416.30084.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> <20090804084805.45a1a008@scorpio.seibercom.net> Message-ID: <4A7839FA.2020001@rcn.com> Jerry wrote: > On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:06:47 -0500 > Neal Hogan wrote: > >> New mailing list etiquette: Everyone should include his/her gender >> when posting. > > OK, then lets also include ethnic background, political affiliation, > religious affiliation along with a cornucopia of other irrelevant > information. Oooh! Oooh! Can we include the date of the most recent recalibration of the sarcasm bit detector? Robert Huff From joey at mingrone.org Tue Aug 4 15:10:55 2009 From: joey at mingrone.org (Joey Mingrone) Date: Tue Aug 4 15:11:03 2009 Subject: kernel panics in 7.2-RELEASE Message-ID: Hi, I have 7.2-RELEASE running on two older laptops and both have had a few kernel panics lately. Unfortunately the one that paniced today doesn't have debugging symbols, so I'm sure how useful any of output below will be. Joey % dmesg . . . Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc05e480b stack pointer = 0x28:0xe7228820 frame pointer = 0x28:0xe7228860 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 50277 (mtree) trap number = 12 panic: page fault . . . % sudo kgdb kernel /var/crash/vmcore.1 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging symbols found)... Attempt to extract a component of a value that is not a structure pointer. Attempt to extract a component of a value that is not a structure pointer. Attempt to extract a component of a value that is not a structure pointer. Attempt to extract a component of a value that is not a structure pointer. #0 0xc0566ddb in doadump () From modulok at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 16:39:41 2009 From: modulok at gmail.com (Modulok) Date: Tue Aug 4 16:39:57 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908040938m6b195216kb18edc17add0e5ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090804075221.GA3909@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090804081841.GC74277@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4A77F20F.5060500@boosten.org> <64c038660908040936m7872c211y2897990508ee8316@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660908040938m6b195216kb18edc17add0e5ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64c038660908040939o349b7b16o6659d5f5f2eb65fb@mail.gmail.com> Good call on the hashing, reducing the quality of the passwords, Kurt. The hash generated passwords are for online accounts, as auto-generated initial passwords and such. But I'm also looking for a good way to generate high quality crypto keys. In the later case, the data being protected are disk images of clients...mountains of sensitive data. These will be on USB keys, and thus do not need to be memorized. Assuming my clients are not enemies of a state, /dev/random should be a sufficient source for this purpose, correct? i.e: dd if=/dev/random of=foo.key bs=256 count=1 Thanks guys! -Modulok- From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 16:39:43 2009 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue Aug 4 16:39:58 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <200908032220.50964.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <200908032220.50964.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <20090804173939.598a224f@gumby.homeunix.com> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 Mel Flynn wrote: > On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: > > > I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the > > output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired > > length. Blasphemy! According to the superstitious password crowd my > > passwords are not very secure ... maybe. > > They aren't, because you reduce the random to a much less random, > *because* you are hashing. Not in FreeBSD, it's a 256bit PRNG and a 256 bit hash. From modulok at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 16:42:25 2009 From: modulok at gmail.com (Modulok) Date: Tue Aug 4 16:42:31 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <20090804173939.598a224f@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <200908032220.50964.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090804173939.598a224f@gumby.homeunix.com> Message-ID: <64c038660908040942t6f7934detdeb7b138623eb884@mail.gmail.com> As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of characters represent one byte. Aye? -Modulok- On 8/4/09, RW wrote: > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:20:50 -0800 > Mel Flynn wrote: > >> On Monday 03 August 2009 18:28:52 Modulok wrote: >> >> > I wrote a python script which uses /dev/random, and hashes the >> > output with sha256. I then truncate the output to the desired >> > length. Blasphemy! According to the superstitious password crowd my >> > passwords are not very secure ... maybe. >> >> They aren't, because you reduce the random to a much less random, >> *because* you are hashing. > > Not in FreeBSD, it's a 256bit PRNG and a 256 bit hash. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 16:42:56 2009 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue Aug 4 16:43:03 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090804173431.52698379@gumby.homeunix.com> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:28:52 -0600 Modulok wrote: > However, wouldn't hashing bytes from /dev/random be quite secure? The > hash function would cover any readily apparent patterns, if they were > found to existed. That's fine, the only issue is that hex digits lead to long passwords for a given stength. Most password generators are OK, provided that they ultimately derive a sufficiently strong seed from /dev/random and don't do anything stupid, this includes things like jot, which uses the arc4random library. The main problem is that there are still a few generators around, IIRC sysutils/pwgen is one, that still seed from the time and the pid, so I wouldn't use a generator unless I'd seen the source. From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 17:19:38 2009 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue Aug 4 17:19:45 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908040942t6f7934detdeb7b138623eb884@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <200908032220.50964.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <20090804173939.598a224f@gumby.homeunix.com> <64c038660908040942t6f7934detdeb7b138623eb884@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090804181932.35562195@gumby.homeunix.com> On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 10:42:22 -0600 Modulok wrote: > As I understand it I would have to double the length of a hashed > password for it to be as secure as an un-hashed one, as each pair of > characters represent one byte. Aye? I wouldn't put it quite like that, it's the hexadecimal representation that puts one bytes into two characters not the hashing. From david at vizion2000.net Tue Aug 4 17:43:54 2009 From: david at vizion2000.net (David Southwell) Date: Tue Aug 4 17:44:02 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage Message-ID: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: _7_BP _7_2_BP _7_2_0_RELEASE _7_2 But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! # uname -a 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 To synchronize src do I use: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 and therefore keep track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? or do I need to use something like: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2-p2 Where can I find some explanation on this? Thanks in advance David From nightrecon at hotmail.com Tue Aug 4 18:32:20 2009 From: nightrecon at hotmail.com (Michael Powell) Date: Tue Aug 4 18:32:27 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage References: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: David Southwell wrote: > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > _7_BP > _7_2_BP > _7_2_0_RELEASE > _7_2 > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > > > # uname -a > > 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > To synchronize src do I use: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 > will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 and therefore > keep track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? > Yes. RELENG_7_2 is the security patched update of Release. The -p2 means there have been two security patches applied to the source code. The actual release (RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE) is static and will never change. The only thing that changes with _7_2 is the addition/inclusion of the patches you see in the security announcements. -Mike From amvandemore at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 18:38:49 2009 From: amvandemore at gmail.com (Adam Vande More) Date: Tue Aug 4 18:38:55 2009 Subject: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4a77db85.YjBDPg0yifmYRuT9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> <4a77db85.YjBDPg0yifmYRuT9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Message-ID: <6201873e0908041138g253b9dctcc0827f91f21c862@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:56 AM, wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: > > [snip description of network flakiness on one server, out > of several on the same switch behind the same gateway] > > > > Any ideas? :-) > > > > > I have 2: > > 1.) Bad NIC > > 2.) Bad CPU > > 3. Bad cable from NIC to switch > 4. Bad switch port > > These may not be all that likely, but they're easy to test if > you have even a marginally-competent tech available at the site. > > I had similar behavior about a years ago. I also had a not very frequent( < once a week) sporadic reboot issue during it. I replaced the RAM and it's not had the issue anymore. I may have rebuilt world too... -- Adam Vande More From david at vizion2000.net Tue Aug 4 19:01:10 2009 From: david at vizion2000.net (David Southwell) Date: Tue Aug 4 19:01:16 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: References: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: <200908042001.08970.david@vizion2000.net> > David Southwell wrote: > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > > > _7_BP > > _7_2_BP > > _7_2_0_RELEASE > > _7_2 > > > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > > > > > > # uname -a > > > > 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > To synchronize src do I use: > > > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 > > will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 and therefore > > keep track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? > > Yes. RELENG_7_2 is the security patched update of Release. The -p2 means > there have been two security patches applied to the source code. The actual > release (RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE) is static and will never change. The only > thing that changes with _7_2 is the addition/inclusion of the patches you > see in the security announcements. > > -Mike > > > Thanks for being helpful.. it might be useful if these designations appeared somewhere in the documentation-- but I guess there is enough for people to do!!! From what you are saying using *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 will work for me Thanks again David From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 19:07:22 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 19:07:30 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> References: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: <4ad871310908041207u1f57800cu70f4f66afed2b19b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > _7_BP > _7_2_BP BP ? > _7_2_0_RELEASE Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. > _7_2 > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > # uname -a > > 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ?amd64 > > To synchronize src do I use: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 > will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 ?and therefore keep > track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? > > or > do I need to use something like: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2-p2 > No. Read the link I posted above. > Where can I find some explanation on this? > > Thanks in advance > -- Glen Barber From lists at bertram-scharpf.de Tue Aug 4 19:28:40 2009 From: lists at bertram-scharpf.de (Bertram Scharpf) Date: Tue Aug 4 19:28:46 2009 Subject: Moused crashes with Synaptics In-Reply-To: <20090804112624.GB19171@marge.bs.l> References: <20090804112624.GB19171@marge.bs.l> Message-ID: <20090804192837.GA20793@marge.bs.l> Hi, Am Dienstag, 04. Aug 2009, 13:26:24 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: > Hi, > > an Acer notebook with a Synaptics Touchpad makes some trouble > here. My primary problem is: I restart the mouse daemon and then I > can move the mouse only for a short distance; suddenly the mouse > freezes. > > To analyze the problem I do the following: > > # /etc/rc.d/moused restart > # dd if=/dev/sysmouse bs=4 | xxd -c 4 > ... > 0000048: 87 . > 18+1 records in > 18+1 records out > 73 bytes transferred in 21.774484 secs (3 bytes/sec) > # > > You see: dd stops without reporting an error. Obviously the moused > doesn't work properly any more. In the meantime I learned that there is /dev/bpsm0 and I wrote a litte Ruby script that reads /dev/psm0. Both devices refuse to supply anything after a very short period of time. What could this be? Thanks in advance. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From kline at thought.org Tue Aug 4 19:53:24 2009 From: kline at thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Tue Aug 4 19:53:33 2009 Subject: not dead [yet]. Message-ID: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I rarely/never use? Most show a list of dependencies that's about 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. --To give a ferinstance, last spring I installed every OCR port we've got. Not came close; all can go. thanks for some lights! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From bf1783 at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 19:54:57 2009 From: bf1783 at googlemail.com (b. f.) Date: Tue Aug 4 19:55:04 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage Message-ID: Glen Barber wrote: >On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: >> I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. >> >> I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: >> >> _7_BP >> _7_2_BP > >BP ? > It is the "branchpoint" tag, made when a release branch is first created: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.html It is not documented in most places because it is primarily of interest to developers. >> _7_2_0_RELEASE > >Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. > RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE is a valid tag. Don't make pronouncements if you haven't verified them. >> _7_2 >> >> But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! >> > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html More to the point is the following page in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html b. From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 20:32:56 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 20:33:03 2009 Subject: not dead [yet]. In-Reply-To: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> References: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> Message-ID: <4ad871310908041332y759f15edx62d93ee887d1237b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Gary On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > ? ? ? ?Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually > ? ? ? ?24/7 working on thesis. ?So was my advisor, but then that's his > ? ? ? ?*job*. ?Anyway, now it's wait and see. > Such is academia. :-) > ? ? ? ?Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I > ? ? ? ?rarely/never use? ?Most show a list of dependencies that's about > ? ? ? ?70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves may be what you're looking for. > ? ? ? ?--To give a ferinstance, last spring I installed every OCR port > ? ? ? ?we've got. ?Not came close; all can go. > > ? ? ? ?thanks for some lights! > -- Glen Barber From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 20:34:31 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 20:34:38 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ad871310908041334k43cb70e2t572276edcf0caee7@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, b. f. wrote: > Glen Barber wrote: >>On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: >>> I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. >>> >>> I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: >>> >>> _7_BP >>> _7_2_BP >> >>BP ? >> > > It is the "branchpoint" tag, made when a release branch is first created: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.html > I see. Noted. > It is not documented in most places because it is primarily of > interest to developers. > >>> _7_2_0_RELEASE >> >>Should be RELENG. ?Don't blindly follow how-tos. >> > > RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE is a valid tag. ?Don't make pronouncements if you > haven't verified them. > He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. >>> _7_2 >>> >>> But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! >>> >> >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > More to the point is the following page in the handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html > -- Glen Barber From ertr1013 at student.uu.se Tue Aug 4 20:53:17 2009 From: ertr1013 at student.uu.se (Erik Trulsson) Date: Tue Aug 4 20:53:25 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908041207u1f57800cu70f4f66afed2b19b@mail.gmail.com> References: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> <4ad871310908041207u1f57800cu70f4f66afed2b19b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090804205254.GA89738@owl.midgard.homeip.net> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > > > _7_BP > > _7_2_BP > > BP ? BP = Branch Point. It is a tag which marks the place where the corresponding branch was created. > > > _7_2_0_RELEASE > > Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. > > > _7_2 > > > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html > > > > > # uname -a > > > > 7.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jun 24 00:14:35 UTC 2009 > > root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ?amd64 > > > > To synchronize src do I use: > > > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 > > will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 ?and therefore keep > > track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? > > > > or > > do I need to use something like: > > > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2-p2 > > > > No. Read the link I posted above. > > > Where can I find some explanation on this? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > -- > Glen Barber > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Tue Aug 4 21:02:55 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:03:02 2009 Subject: ftps ?(off-topic) In-Reply-To: <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <4A77EDEF.4020806@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <200908041302.50544.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Tuesday 04 August 2009 00:14:39 Mark Stapper wrote: > It would be nice to hear more "she-calling" on these lists though... > So maybe mailing list etiquette should state anyone posting to a mailing > list should be referred to as "she" like we do with boats.... and > institutions like the court... (well in dutch we do...) > However, Frederique should imply the person who started this thread is > female. OK, that grew out of proportion real quick. The number of knowledgeable actively posting females on this list is very low, which is why I think we should cherish them, like an endangered species (or ladies if you will). No need to go overboard :) -- Mel From kingedgar at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 21:05:53 2009 From: kingedgar at gmail.com (Jason Garrett) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:06:05 2009 Subject: ZFS Boot Support from Installer In-Reply-To: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> Message-ID: <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS > boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some > how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the > impression I got is that support for ZFS partitions is coming to the > installer in perhaps 7.3 or 8.0, and I wanted to confirm or dispel that myth > before I go forward using the hacky method. I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want random crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 versions. Just my 2 cents... > > > Thanks! > > Tim Gustafson > Baskin School of Engineering > UC Santa Cruz > tjg@soe.ucsc.edu > 831-459-5354 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Tue Aug 4 21:08:38 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:08:45 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: <20090804205254.GA89738@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <200908041843.41785.david@vizion2000.net> <4ad871310908041207u1f57800cu70f4f66afed2b19b@mail.gmail.com> <20090804205254.GA89738@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <200908041308.36616.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Tuesday 04 August 2009 12:52:54 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:07:20PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, David Southwell wrote: > > > I am confused about the usage of the tag for src. > > > > > > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > > > > > _7_BP > > > _7_2_BP > > > > BP ? > > BP = Branch Point. It is a tag which marks the place where the > corresponding branch was created. And for developers or interesting parties, one can create cvs diff using -rRELENG_7_2_BP -rRELENG_7_2_RELEASE to see how many fixes hit the tree during the final release stage. -- Mel From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 21:11:28 2009 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:11:36 2009 Subject: not dead [yet]. In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908041332y759f15edx62d93ee887d1237b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> <4ad871310908041332y759f15edx62d93ee887d1237b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090804221124.585f58c4@gumby.homeunix.com> On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:32:54 -0400 Glen Barber wrote: > > ? ? ? ?Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries > > that I rarely/never use? ?Most show a list of dependencies that's > > about 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > > > > ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves may be what you're looking for. Or "portmanager -slid" which is a bit easier to use for a one-off cleanup, and also understands build-dependencies. From bf1783 at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 21:32:09 2009 From: bf1783 at googlemail.com (b. f.) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:32:41 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908041334k43cb70e2t572276edcf0caee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310908041334k43cb70e2t572276edcf0caee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/4/09, Glen Barber wrote: >> >>>> _7_2_0_RELEASE >>> >>>Should be RELENG. Don't blindly follow how-tos. >>> >> >> RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE is a valid tag. Don't make pronouncements if you >> haven't verified them. >> > > He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. Well, neither actually. :) s/0_2/2_0/ . But I inferred from the context -- it seemed obvious, particularly from what he wrote later -- that he meant those choices as suffixes to RELENG, which he omitted for the sake of brevity. I assumed you also made this inference. ... Mel Flynn wrote: > >And for developers or interesting parties, one can create cvs diff using >-rRELENG_7_2_BP -rRELENG_7_2_RELEASE to see how many fixes hit the tree during >the final release stage. How many "interesting parties" have you been to, Mel, where such a listing came in handy? ;) From rsmith at xs4all.nl Tue Aug 4 21:37:42 2009 From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:37:49 2009 Subject: not dead [yet]. In-Reply-To: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> References: <20090804191653.GA10415@thought.org> Message-ID: <20090804213739.GA31410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 12:16:56PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Until late Sunday night I was here at keyboard/computer virtually > 24/7 working on thesis. So was my advisor, but then that's his > *job*. Anyway, now it's wait and see. Good luck! > Meanwhile: how do I get rid of a truckload of old binaries that I > rarely/never use? Most show a list of dependencies that's about > 70 lines long, and I don't want to break things. > > --To give a ferinstance, last spring I installed every OCR port > we've got. Not came close; all can go. What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with ports-mgmt/portmaster: portmaster -L >ports.list Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; - Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) - Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) - Branch ports (Have dependencies, are depended on) - Leaf ports (Have dependencies, not depended on) Basically, you can delete any of the leaf and root ports, because they're not depended on. E.g. if you have the following in your list as a leaf port: ===>>> qemu-0.10.6 you can execute 'pkg_delete -d qemu-0.10.6' as root, and it is gone. 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Bad CPU >> 3. Bad cable from NIC to switch >> 4. Bad switch port >> >> These may not be all that likely, but they're easy to test if >> you have even a marginally-competent tech available at the site. >> >> I had similar behavior about a years ago. I also had a not very frequent( > < once a week) sporadic reboot issue during it. I replaced the RAM and it's > not had the issue anymore. I may have rebuilt world too... The on-site techs ran the Dell diagnostics tests and the Broadcom test (for the NIC) but was unable to find any hw errors. So, they finally replaced the cable and connected it to another switch port. And now everything seems to be working. I've been doing some tests for a few hours, but I can't get the machine to crap out again. Looking good so far... :-) -- Joel From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 21:56:35 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:56:59 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310908041334k43cb70e2t572276edcf0caee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908041456h433eeb01s87095a05984433e3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM, b. f. wrote: >> >> He has _7_2_0_RELEASE, not RELENG_7_0_2_RELEASE. > > Well, neither actually. ?:) ? s/0_2/2_0/ ?. ?But I inferred from the > context ?-- it seemed obvious, particularly from what he wrote later > -- that he meant those choices as suffixes to RELENG, which he omitted > for the sake of brevity. ?I assumed you also made this inference. > Agreed, but IMHO, it's better to be precise and not assume too much. :-) -- Glen Barber From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 21:57:43 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Tue Aug 4 21:58:06 2009 Subject: [Solved] Re: Weird networking issue In-Reply-To: <4A78ADB4.7@vnode.se> References: <4A7753A0.7040006@vnode.se> <4ad871310908031553i7c69708fv9d162514816c3e10@mail.gmail.com> <4a77db85.YjBDPg0yifmYRuT9%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <6201873e0908041138g253b9dctcc0827f91f21c862@mail.gmail.com> <4A78ADB4.7@vnode.se> Message-ID: <4ad871310908041457t284e7977y500ac789740b2190@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Joel Dahl wrote: > And now everything seems to be working. ?I've been doing some tests for a > few hours, but I can't get the machine to crap out again. ?Looking good so > far... :-) > Good to hear. :-) -- Glen Barber From rwmaillists at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 22:00:36 2009 From: rwmaillists at googlemail.com (RW) Date: Tue Aug 4 22:00:43 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <20090803223427.511879f2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090803223427.511879f2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Message-ID: <20090804230030.5e3aa49c@gumby.homeunix.com> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 22:34:27 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Modulok wrote: > > > > I need a way to generate a lot of secure passwords. So, I read all > > about it. Either people are getting way carried away, or I'm missing > > something... > > You could just use apg ... it's in the ports. By the look of it this was originally DES-based, and was upgraded to use CAST or SHA1. However the seeding from /dev/random seems to have been left at 64 bits (the DES blocksize) plus some extra from gettimeofday(). In practice it's probably good enough, it just seems a bit lame. From bf1783 at googlemail.com Tue Aug 4 22:37:48 2009 From: bf1783 at googlemail.com (b. f.) Date: Tue Aug 4 22:37:55 2009 Subject: not dead [yet]. Message-ID: Roland Smith wrote: >What you can do is make a list of all installed ports with ports-mgmt/portmaster: > portmaster -L >ports.list > >Looking through this list, you'll see four categories; >- Root ports (No dependencies, not depended on) >- Trunk ports (No dependencies, are depended on) >- Branch ports (Have dependencies, are depended on) >- Leaf ports (Have dependencies, not depended on) > >Basically, you can delete any of the leaf and root ports, because >they're not depended on. E.g. if you have the following in your list as >a leaf port: > ===>>> qemu-0.10.6 >you can execute 'pkg_delete -d qemu-0.10.6' as root, and it is gone. If you're only interested in deletion, "-l" should be preferred to "-L". And portmaster with these flags does not always account for build dependencies. so with this method you may occasionally remove a port that is only used to build other ports, but is not a runtime dependency of any other port. Also, occasionally a port Makefile doesn't properly account for some dependencies, and removing them will break the port. So there may be some breakages that you'll have to fix, but this shouldn't happen often. When removing ports, I sometimes use pkg_deinstall -vR, sometimes also with -i. because it can clean out the now-unneeded dependencies of the port I'm removing, which speeds up this process. Provided your pkgdb and portsdb are up-to-date, it's a little better than portmaster -s, which relies on +REQUIRED_BY to detect stale dependencies, and may occasionally fail. b. From tjg at soe.ucsc.edu Wed Aug 5 00:01:08 2009 From: tjg at soe.ucsc.edu (Tim Gustafson) Date: Wed Aug 5 00:01:16 2009 Subject: ZFS Boot Support from Installer In-Reply-To: <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1673429939.562991249430468086.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> > I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want > random crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 > versions. I'm using 7.2 at the moment with a standard UFS2 boot partition and a 500GB ZFS pool. My ZFS pool actually seems pretty stable. I did a "make -j 16 buildworld buildkernel installkernel installworld" using it as my /usr/src and /usr/obj and it performed beautifully. At the time I did that, it was configured as just a RAIDZ. I've since changed that to RAIDZ2, but I haven't beaten it up yet, so I don't know if there's a difference between the stability of RAIDZ and RAIDZ2. Tim Gustafson Baskin School of Engineering UC Santa Cruz tjg@soe.ucsc.edu 831-459-5354 From jhall at socket.net Wed Aug 5 01:06:59 2009 From: jhall at socket.net (Jay Hall) Date: Wed Aug 5 01:07:06 2009 Subject: find question Message-ID: <42D44C8E-1E22-426C-A9AA-0FBF2A52188A@socket.net> I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I cannot figure it out. I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all of the files in the directory to a file. Here is the code. #!/usr/local/bin/bash cat ${FILELIST} | while read LINE do echo ${LINE} `find ${LINE} -type f >> ${TMPFILE}` done Here is the output. /usr/home/windowsaccess find: illegal option -- t find: illegal option -- y find: illegal option -- p find: illegal option -- e find: f: No such file or directory Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 01:17:19 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 01:17:27 2009 Subject: find question In-Reply-To: <42D44C8E-1E22-426C-A9AA-0FBF2A52188A@socket.net> References: <42D44C8E-1E22-426C-A9AA-0FBF2A52188A@socket.net> Message-ID: <200908041717.17286.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Tuesday 04 August 2009 17:06:56 Jay Hall wrote: > I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I > cannot figure it out. > > I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all > of the files in the directory to a file. > > Here is the code. > > #!/usr/local/bin/bash > cat ${FILELIST} | while read LINE > do [ -z "${LINE}" ] && continue > echo ${LINE} > `find ${LINE} -type f >> ${TMPFILE}` > done > > Here is the output. > /usr/home/windowsaccess > ^^^^ empty line -- Mel From Ggatten at waddell.com Wed Aug 5 01:23:17 2009 From: Ggatten at waddell.com (Gary Gatten) Date: Wed Aug 5 01:23:25 2009 Subject: find question Message-ID: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2EE@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> What is "-type" supposed to do? I've never used it before, never needed it. ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Tue Aug 04 20:06:56 2009 Subject: find question I am sure this is something I am doing that is obviously wrong, but I cannot figure it out. I am reading a list of directories from a file, and then listing all of the files in the directory to a file. Here is the code. #!/usr/local/bin/bash cat ${FILELIST} | while read LINE do echo ${LINE} `find ${LINE} -type f >> ${TMPFILE}` done Here is the output. /usr/home/windowsaccess find: illegal option -- t find: illegal option -- y find: illegal option -- p find: illegal option -- e find: f: No such file or directory Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 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From tfcheng at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 15:58:13 2009 From: tfcheng at gmail.com (Tsu-Fan Cheng) Date: Wed Aug 5 15:58:21 2009 Subject: Opera in your repos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mmm.... afaIk, FreeBSd didn't make any software into distro, we just put them into our app system, called "ports" or "port collections", which has all apps that can run on freebsd. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=opera&stype=all On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Ilya Shpan'kov wrote: > Hi, > > I work in Opera Software - yes, we make a proprietary browser ;) > Last 7 years I use GNU/Linux and know that, for example, in Russia the > Opera browser is very popular in BSD Community. Well, there is a > question: whether Opera is included to your distro and if not - how we can > fix this problem? We are ready for any discussions, technical help or > agreement, if necessary. > > Thanks in advance, > > -- > Best regards, > > Ilya Shpan'kov > Community Outreach Manager for Russia > Opera Software ASA > > Mobile: +47 46351421 > Web-site: http://my.opera.com/IlyaShpankov/ > Skype: shpankov > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From info at us.army.org Wed Aug 5 16:08:01 2009 From: info at us.army.org (John Nielsen.) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:08:08 2009 Subject: 7.2 CD won't boot Message-ID: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Hi guys, My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. I get the following and nothing more: CD Loader 1.2 Building the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found Relocating the loader and the BTX I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. I have burned a second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. I have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. On-board SCSI controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. Nothing seems to make a difference. What on earth could be going on? Thanks, Brad Waite From amvandemore at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:18:46 2009 From: amvandemore at gmail.com (Adam Vande More) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:18:53 2009 Subject: 7.2 CD won't boot In-Reply-To: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> References: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Message-ID: <6201873e0908050918u19248780m43f153cf6d9c2e3f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:41 AM, John Nielsen. wrote: > Hi guys, > > My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. I get the following and nothing more: > > CD Loader 1.2 > > Building the boot loader arguments > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found > Relocating the loader and the BTX > > I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. I have burned a > second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. I > have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. On-board SCSI > controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. Nothing seems to > make a difference. > > What on earth could be going on? > > Thanks, > > Brad Waite > > What platform are you using? eg amd64 Update BIOS, disable acpi. -- Adam Vande More From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:19:30 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:19:38 2009 Subject: 7.2 CD won't boot In-Reply-To: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> References: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> Message-ID: <4ad871310908050919u2fa32e09pa690edebd37b9881@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM, John Nielsen. wrote: > Hi guys, > > My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. ?I get the following and nothing more: > > CD Loader 1.2 > > Building the boot loader arguments > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found > Relocating the loader and the BTX > > I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. ?I have burned a > second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. ?I > have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. ?On-board SCSI > controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. ?Nothing seems to > make a difference. > > What on earth could be going on? > Can you verify if another machine boots the CD? Could be a bad download. Could be a hardware incompatibility. Also, could you try disabling ACPI at boot? -- Glen Barber From david at vizion2000.net Wed Aug 5 16:28:25 2009 From: david at vizion2000.net (David Southwell) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:28:33 2009 Subject: 7.2 CD won't boot In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908050919u2fa32e09pa690edebd37b9881@mail.gmail.com> References: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <4ad871310908050919u2fa32e09pa690edebd37b9881@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908051728.22039.david@vizion2000.net> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM, John Nielsen. wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. I get the following and nothing more: > > > > CD Loader 1.2 > > > > Building the boot loader arguments > > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found > > Relocating the loader and the BTX > > > > I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. I have burned a > > second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. I > > have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. On-board SCSI > > controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. Nothing seems to > > make a difference. > > > > What on earth could be going on? > > Can you verify if another machine boots the CD? Could be a bad download. > > Could be a hardware incompatibility. > > Also, could you try disabling ACPI at boot? I found the amd64 dvd download to be corrupt recently. So do check the download -- did you verify your download? David From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 16:32:49 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:32:56 2009 Subject: find question In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908050833k54f3f3a7v679737941e3fa235@mail.gmail.com> References: <42D44C8E-1E22-426C-A9AA-0FBF2A52188A@socket.net> <200908050712.39131.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4ad871310908050833k54f3f3a7v679737941e3fa235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908050832.47299.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 07:33:42 Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Mel > > Flynn wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 07:00:40 Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:36 AM, Matthew > >> > >> Seaman wrote: > >> > Try this as: > >> > > >> > for line in $( cat $FILELIST ) ; do > >> > echo $line > >> > find $line -type f >> $TMPFILE > >> > done > >> > > >> > *assuming that none of the directory names in $FILELIST contain > >> > spaces* > >> > >> for line in $( cat $FILELIST | sed -e 's/\ //g') ; do > >> echo $line > >> find $line -type f >> $TMPFILE > >> done > >> > >> This *should* fix any directories containing spaces. > > > > And also make find look in non-existing directories. > > True, but any script that needs to find directories containing spaces > is going to be hack-ish. > > for line in $( cat $FILELIST | sed -e 's/\ /SPACE/g') ; do > echo $line | sed -e 's/SPACE/\ /g' > find $line -type f >> $TMPFILE > done Not really, simply quote your arguments so that IFS is not in the picture. The OP had the right the idea by using a pipe+while read. % echo My Documents|while read LINE; do find "${LINE}" -type f; done My Documents/foo -- Mel From david at vizion2000.net Wed Aug 5 16:34:37 2009 From: david at vizion2000.net (David Southwell) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:34:44 2009 Subject: 7.2 CD won't boot In-Reply-To: <200908051728.22039.david@vizion2000.net> References: <53907.98.245.242.40.1249486879.squirrel@webmail.wcubed.net> <4ad871310908050919u2fa32e09pa690edebd37b9881@mail.gmail.com> <200908051728.22039.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: <200908051734.33937.david@vizion2000.net> > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:41 AM, John Nielsen. wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > My 7.2 Release Disc 1 won't boot. I get the following and nothing > > > more: > > > > > > CD Loader 1.2 > > > > > > Building the boot loader arguments > > > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found > > > Relocating the loader and the BTX > > > > > > I'm running on a Intel SE7501BR2, single Xeon, 2GB. I have burned a > > > second CD and swapped the CD drive, cable and RAM, all to no avail. I > > > have a RR1520 RAID controller, but removed that as well. On-board SCSI > > > controller and serial ports have been disabled, too. Nothing seems to > > > make a difference. > > > > > > What on earth could be going on? > > > > Can you verify if another machine boots the CD? Could be a bad download. > > > > Could be a hardware incompatibility. > > > > Also, could you try disabling ACPI at boot? > > I found the amd64 dvd download to be corrupt recently. So do check the > download -- did you verify your download? > > David John My cc to you was bounced. : host d.mx.mail.yahoo.com[68.142.202.247] said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.de account (jn07texas@yahoo.de) [-5] - mta247.mail.mud.yahoo.com (in reply to end of DATA command) David From kc0hwa at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 16:36:15 2009 From: kc0hwa at gmail.com (J Lee Hughes) Date: Wed Aug 5 16:36:22 2009 Subject: help installing Message-ID: how can help me install free bsd I get loaded free bsd it said is loaded good Can not get xwindow to load or kde help use to opensuse the best for os ============================== J Lee Hughes K C 0 H W A 73 ============================= Do what you can every day! Learn what you can every day! Life is good! ============================= From david at vizion2000.net Wed Aug 5 17:07:41 2009 From: david at vizion2000.net (David Southwell) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:07:48 2009 Subject: help installing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051807.38397.david@vizion2000.net> > how can help me install free bsd > > I get loaded free bsd > it said is loaded good > Can not get xwindow to load or kde > > help > > use to opensuse the best for os > ============================== > J Lee Hughes K C 0 H W A 73 > ============================= > Do what you can every day! > Learn what you can every day! > Life is good! > ============================= Welcome Do you have another machine available with access to the internet. If so use that one to go to http://www.freebsd.org follow the links to documentation>handbook you should find everything you need there. Come back here if you get stuck David M0TAU From rsw22 at cornell.edu Wed Aug 5 17:19:29 2009 From: rsw22 at cornell.edu (Randall Wood) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:19:43 2009 Subject: Opera in your repos In-Reply-To: <200908050743.05363.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200908050743.05363.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <20090805180009.GB7643@zafiro.therandymon.com> > There are no issues I'm aware of, that's specific to the FreeBSD/Opera > combination (no flash support is an issue with Adobe, not Opera and I got one > bugreport in the queue, that I'm also not sure is FreeBSD specific, more > built-in torrent application specific). > -- No problems here - it's my browser of choice on FreeBSD, and it hasn't given me any trouble at all. Congrats. -- http://www.therandymon.com From rsw22 at cornell.edu Wed Aug 5 17:19:30 2009 From: rsw22 at cornell.edu (Randall Wood) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:19:44 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: <200908031153.22226.w.riegler@cbtl.de> References: <200908031153.22226.w.riegler@cbtl.de> Message-ID: <20090805175728.GA7643@zafiro.therandymon.com> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0200, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > Has anyone tested Arora? I'm actually surprised no one has recommended Konqueror. It's not my favorite browser (I happen to love Opera) but it would seem to mostly fit the bill of fast, graphical. One trick it does that I appreciate is assigning a letter to every link. When you hold down the control key, the letters appear and you can navigate just by pressing control and a letter key. Konqueror certainly has its detractors though, so I guess it's a matter of taste. Happy hunting. -- http://www.therandymon.com From nvass9573 at gmx.com Wed Aug 5 17:25:45 2009 From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:25:51 2009 Subject: Network card Intel and 802.1P tag In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Message-ID: <4A79C088.1090504@gmx.com> Gary Gatten wrote: > Not ALL chipsets / drivers support 802.1Q / p , maybe this is one of them? The vlan driver handles tagging itself in software. You don't need support by the hardware driver or the NIC itself. That said, Intel NICs are known to work correctly and support dot1Q tags natively in hardware. Maybe this behavior is some regression with the priority tags, which by the way are completely ignored by the vlan driver. You cannot set a priority tag or have the vlan driver process it in a special way. I guess processing priority tags is not very useful since one cannot expect a FreeBSD box to replace a switch! As I understand Andrey just runs tcpdump on the physical interface. He doesn't use the vlan driver. He should see everything that reaches the ethernet port. tagged or not. Nikos From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 17:29:20 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:29:28 2009 Subject: Looking for fast graphical web browser In-Reply-To: <20090805175728.GA7643@zafiro.therandymon.com> References: <200908031153.22226.w.riegler@cbtl.de> <20090805175728.GA7643@zafiro.therandymon.com> Message-ID: <200908050929.17643.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 09:57:30 Randall Wood wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:53:22AM +0200, Wolfgang Riegler wrote: > > Has anyone tested Arora? > > I'm actually surprised no one has recommended Konqueror. It's not my > favorite browser (I happen to love Opera) but it would seem to mostly fit > the bill of fast, graphical. One trick it does that I appreciate is > assigning a letter to every link. When you hold down the control key, the > letters appear and you can navigate just by pressing control and a letter > key. Konqueror certainly has its detractors though, so I guess it's a > matter of taste. Well, the script support and rendering bugs are a bit too noticeable for my taste. Though last time I tried was KDE 4.1.x. I suppose I could give it another shot with 4.3 in the tree. -- Mel From arctic at alkar.net Wed Aug 5 17:29:57 2009 From: arctic at alkar.net (Andrey O.Sokolov) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:30:05 2009 Subject: Network card Intel and 802.1P tag In-Reply-To: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> Message-ID: <1249493435.3092.45.camel@Father> ? ??, 2009-08-05 ? 10:54 -0500, Gary Gatten ????: > Not ALL chipsets / drivers support 802.1Q / p , maybe this is one of them? I have this problem on some ethernet cards, such as: em0@pci0:14:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x109a15d9 chip=0x109a8086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82573L Intel PRO/1000 PL Network Adaptor' class = network subclass = ethernet em0@pci0:6:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x108c15d9 chip=0x108c8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82573E Intel Corporation 82573E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)' class = network subclass = ethernet Andrey O.Sokolov wrote: > > Any idea how I can see 802.1P tag on em? > > You should, I guess, with no extra steps. Perhaps the em driver > has some hardware capability, which set the priority tag to zero? > Is the vlan hardware processing enabled? How I can enable this processing? > Could you post the output of "ifconfig em0"? > Output of ifconfig both: em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=19b ether 00:15:b7:62:de:ec media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active vlan20: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether 00:15:b7:62:de:ec inet media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active vlan: 20 parent interface: em0 ============================================================================== fxp0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=219b ether 00:02:b3:61:d5:5a media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active vlan20: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3 ether 00:02:b3:61:d5:5a inet media: Ethernet 100baseTX status: active vlan: 20 parent interface: fxp0 -- ***AOS224-RIPE*** mailto:arctic@alkar.net From kline at thought.org Wed Aug 5 17:41:04 2009 From: kline at thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:41:10 2009 Subject: foot-shot? Message-ID: <20090805174038.GA19895@thought.org> Hm. Last night mutt began to fail to sent mail; it exited with a 127. When I tried to rebuolt mutt, turns out that I'm missing GNU m4... . I'll paste the build snafus after my sig here on my server. Ideas how things ggot hosed? anybody? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ===> Configuring for mutt-1.4.2.3_3 /usr/local/share/aclocal/soup.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SOUP run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal /usr/local/share/aclocal/oaf.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OAF /usr/local/share/aclocal/linc.m4:1: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LINC /usr/local/share/aclocal/libglade.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBGLADE /usr/local/share/aclocal/libfame.m4:6: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBFAME /usr/local/share/aclocal/libart.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBART /usr/local/share/aclocal/libIDL.m4:6: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBIDL /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:167: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/gtkgl.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTKGL /usr/local/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK /usr/local/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/gdk-pixbuf.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_PIXBUF /usr/local/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GCONF /usr/local/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:71: warning: underquoted definition of AM_GCONF_SOURCE /usr/local/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE /usr/local/share/aclocal/aalib.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AALIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/ORBit.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_ORBIT autom4te-2.62: need GNU m4 1.4 or later: /usr/local/bin/gm4 aclocal-1.9: /usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.62 failed with exit status: 1 *** Error code 1 From nvass9573 at gmx.com Wed Aug 5 17:41:54 2009 From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:42:01 2009 Subject: Network card Intel and 802.1P tag In-Reply-To: <1249493435.3092.45.camel@Father> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <1249493435.3092.45.camel@Father> Message-ID: <4A79C44D.8040803@gmx.com> Andrey O.Sokolov wrote: >> Is the vlan hardware processing enabled? > > How I can enable this processing? > "ifconfig em0 vlanhwtag" enables vlan processing in hw "ifconfig em0 -vlanhwtag" disables vlan processing in hw Maybe one these will work correctly without the zeroing effect. Perhaps off topic, but why are you interested in priority tags, since FreeBSD will silently ignore them? From arctic at alkar.net Wed Aug 5 17:56:36 2009 From: arctic at alkar.net (Andrey O.Sokolov) Date: Wed Aug 5 17:56:44 2009 Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Network card Intel and 802.1P tag In-Reply-To: <4A79C44D.8040803@gmx.com> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <1249493435.3092.45.camel@Father> <4A79C44D.8040803@gmx.com> Message-ID: <1249495034.3092.58.camel@Father> ? ??, 2009-08-05 ? 20:41 +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis ????: > >> Is the vlan hardware processing enabled? > > > > How I can enable this processing? > > > > "ifconfig em0 vlanhwtag" enables vlan processing in hw > "ifconfig em0 -vlanhwtag" disables vlan processing in hw > Maybe one these will work correctly without the zeroing effect. I tried both variant on both NIC - fxp and em The result doesn't change ;( > Perhaps off topic, but why are you interested in priority > tags, since FreeBSD will silently ignore them? I developing QoS-model for big network. I have casualy found out this problem, when I analyzed the traffic with different COS-value from various devices. -- ***AOS224-RIPE*** mailto:arctic@alkar.net From nvass9573 at gmx.com Wed Aug 5 18:07:08 2009 From: nvass9573 at gmx.com (Nikos Vassiliadis) Date: Wed Aug 5 18:07:14 2009 Subject: [?? Probable Spam] Re: Network card Intel and 802.1P tag In-Reply-To: <1249495034.3092.58.camel@Father> References: <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793F2F9@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <1249493435.3092.45.camel@Father> <4A79C44D.8040803@gmx.com> <1249495034.3092.58.camel@Father> Message-ID: <4A79CA3C.9050302@gmx.com> Andrey O.Sokolov wrote: > I tried both variant on both NIC - fxp and em > The result doesn't change ;( You should post to net@ and maybe the maintainer will help you. Include pciconf. >> Perhaps off topic, but why are you interested in priority >> tags, since FreeBSD will silently ignore them? > > I developing QoS-model for big network. > I have casualy found out this problem, when I analyzed the traffic with > different COS-value from various devices. Yes, but at the end of the day FreeBSD will ignore the priority tag. It would be just cosmetic. But, I agree that you should see the correct priority tag. Nikos From lgroups at waagmeester.co.za Wed Aug 5 18:16:16 2009 From: lgroups at waagmeester.co.za (Coert Waagmeester) Date: Wed Aug 5 18:16:24 2009 Subject: Wierd X crash In-Reply-To: <200908050636.43776.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <1249475858.6074.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <200908050636.43776.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <1249496239.4520.2.camel@penguin.coert.local> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 06:36 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 04:37:38 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > > I am fairly new to FreeBSD. I use linux a lot. > > > > Am running FreeBSD 7.2 i386 with the nvidia 173 driver with an AGP > > GeForce FX 5200. > > > > > > My X works, with xinerama and two screens, perfectly, > > but as soon as I hold down any key (like Backspace to remove a line of > > text) X crashes. > > Any key? Even one that does not create scrolling on the screen? like backspace > in an empty file? > Unless someone else has seen this, sounds really hard to debug without a > coredump :/ > The only long shot I got to offer is that nvidia provides TwinView which does > the same as Xinerama and you might want to try that out instead. There's > detailed information about it in one of the Nvidia README's. Twinview did indeed completely solve the problem! What are the (dis)advantages of TwinView and Xinerama? Thanks! Coert From freebsd at edvax.de Wed Aug 5 18:33:46 2009 From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon) Date: Wed Aug 5 18:33:53 2009 Subject: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions In-Reply-To: <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Message-ID: <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> Jonathan, I'd like to thank you for your polite words. I'm not sure I could have been able to express in the same way. Allow me a few comments: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 16:51:53 +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 15:49:38 PJ wrote: > > Well, whatever it was it sure screwed up my system > > You screwed up your system. Possibly that started when you tried to use > freebsd-update with a non-GENERIC kernel, but you then thrashed around, > apparently ignoring most of the help you were offered on this list and > getting into more and more trouble, while never explaining exactly what you > were doing. For any operating system is true: As long as you can't master it because you don't exactly know how to do things, it's always a little bit dangerous. > ``I can't use it, therefore it's rubbish''. That's fine, no-one forced you to > use FreeBSD in the first place and I doubt anyone minds that you don't want > to use it any more. I had a similar problem last year: My home directory is still gone and FreeBSD doesn't seem to be able to restore it. But I haven't found (a) a system that brings back my precious data and (b) can offer the same functionality and easyness of use FreeBSD does. This is, of course, a very individual problem. As you know from this list, most problems are of a less "important" nature. But failing to read the documentation - you can always ask if you don't understand what something might mean - has never been a problem. If you stick to the official handbook, no serious problems should occur. > Personally, I do think it's a pity, because FreeBSD (in my experience, since > FreeBSD 4.5) is stable, easy to use (once you have the basic Unix concepts on > board), and astonishingly well-documented. It's also supported by one of the > friendliest and most knowledgeable communities I know. In relations to most Linusi and MICROS~1 stuff in general, FreeBSD is the MOST EXCELLENT documented OS I've ever used - and I have used many OSes during my "career". The FAQ, the handbook and especially the manpages are great. Of course, that's my point of view as a developer. For a "normal user", this might look a bit different, but finally, there's this very helpful and friendly list. > Having said all that, I wish you well and I hope you find a system which suits > you better than the one you have trashed. I honestly second that. If FreeBSD isn't your cup of tea, try something else. I'm sure you'll find some OS that fits your needs better. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk Wed Aug 5 18:35:04 2009 From: freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?=) Date: Wed Aug 5 18:35:11 2009 Subject: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ? Message-ID: <8250ac3f0908051135g282fabb1m4009077010a6fd72@mail.gmail.com> Hi I'm trying to build flowd with perl make WITH_PERL="YES" But it returns that it is broken ? flowd-0.9.1_1 is marked as broken: Incomplete pkg-plist. Without perl it installs fine. The problem is that I need the perl part to get some of the other tools to work :S Anything I can do to get this not broken ... -- Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M?ller From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 19:19:10 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 19:19:17 2009 Subject: Wierd X crash In-Reply-To: <1249496239.4520.2.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249475858.6074.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <200908050636.43776.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1249496239.4520.2.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <200908051041.40265.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 10:17:19 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 06:36 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 04:37:38 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > > I am fairly new to FreeBSD. I use linux a lot. > > > > > > Am running FreeBSD 7.2 i386 with the nvidia 173 driver with an AGP > > > GeForce FX 5200. > > > > > > > > > My X works, with xinerama and two screens, perfectly, > > > but as soon as I hold down any key (like Backspace to remove a line of > > > text) X crashes. > > > > Any key? Even one that does not create scrolling on the screen? like > > backspace in an empty file? > > Unless someone else has seen this, sounds really hard to debug without a > > coredump :/ > > The only long shot I got to offer is that nvidia provides TwinView which > > does the same as Xinerama and you might want to try that out instead. > > There's detailed information about it in one of the Nvidia README's. > > Twinview did indeed completely solve the problem! > > What are the (dis)advantages of TwinView and Xinerama? TwinView is preferred on nvidia cards. I don't know the exact history, but I think XFree and nvidia were working on multi-monitor/vidcard support around the same time and nvidia came up with TwinView, while XFree provided Xinerama. Apparently, nvidia didn't like the Xinerama API and stuck with it's own, while incorporating some compatibility functions to make things work better, but I always found TwinView to work as advertized and Xinerama being buggy. Of course, my experience is no measurement for past and future results ;) -- Mel From freebsd at edvax.de Wed Aug 5 19:23:56 2009 From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon) Date: Wed Aug 5 19:24:02 2009 Subject: cvs tag usage In-Reply-To: <200908051000.09434.david@vizion2000.net> References: <4ad871310908041456h433eeb01s87095a05984433e3@mail.gmail.com> <200908051000.09434.david@vizion2000.net> Message-ID: <20090805204439.84e28b87.freebsd@edvax.de> On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 10:00:09 +0100, David Southwell wrote: > I took a look at the web pages and found the following choices: > > RELENG_7_BP > RELENG_7_2_BP > RELENG_7_2_0_RELEASE > RELENG_7_2 > > But could not find anything that told me where -p2 fits into this!! The -p2 is appended when you follow RELENG_7_2, which is the security branch (release branch) of FreeBSD 7.2. You will get ONLY the patches. For example, when the second patch is applied and you download, compile and install the OS, uname will give 7.2-RELEASE-p2. If you follow RELENG_7, you get the stable branch. Here, more than just the patches are delivered to you when updating the sources. So you won't get -p2, but something like 7.0-STABLE together with your compile date. As far as I know, /etc/motd will be updated and then show 7.2-STABLE-20090101 (the proper date of course). The -STABLE branch is a bit experimental, allthough it includes those things that are considered to be running well. If you are interested in the "bleeding edge" of FreeBSD's development, you follow RELENG_7. This will then deliver the -CURRENT branch to you with all modifications. It may happen that a -CURRENT of today doesn't compile, but tomorrow, it will do. It's considered to be the experimental branch where changes can appear and disappear. > To synchronize src and keep up to date do I use: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2 > will this automatically track the latest version in 7_2 and therefore keep > track with 7.2-RELEASE-p2 or later?? Exactly. You follow the -STABLE branch of FreeBSD 7.2 and will always get the latest *stable* 7.2 sources, but won't reach 7.3 with this setting. > or > do I need to use something like: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7_2-p2 No. As far as I know, you can't update to a specific patchlevel in this way. But using CVS correctly - don't ask me how to do this :-) - you can update your system to any point of time in development. > or > something else!! Or else. :-) > Where can I find some explanation on this? The handbook mentions it in its comparison between RELEASE and STABLE. > Maybe something from this discussion could be added to the > handbook/synching.html page so the choice of suffix for configuring cvsup > could be made easier for those who are not familiar with the meaning of > undocumented suffixing such as -p2 !!. Good idea. > Another could there possibly be some consistency between the output from uname > -a and the suffixing used for synching of the src be practicable. The "problem" is that there are different naming conventions. > Please do > not bite my head off if it is not practical -- I acknowledge it is a question > born of ignorance and confusion I already had horsehead goulash with sauerkraut, thanks. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 19:24:09 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 19:24:15 2009 Subject: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ? In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0908051135g282fabb1m4009077010a6fd72@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0908051135g282fabb1m4009077010a6fd72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908051048.03079.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 10:35:02 Kalle M?ller wrote: > make WITH_PERL="YES" > > But it returns that it is broken ? > > flowd-0.9.1_1 is marked as broken: Incomplete pkg-plist. > > Without perl it installs fine. The problem is that I need the perl part to > get some of the other tools to work :S > > Anything I can do to get this not broken ... You could fix the plist and ping the maintainer (added to CC). -- Mel From admin at enabled.com Wed Aug 5 19:39:23 2009 From: admin at enabled.com (Admin) Date: Wed Aug 5 19:39:30 2009 Subject: new machine trying to install /usr/ports Message-ID: <4A79D704.2030908@enabled.com> hi there, I am trying to get some basic ports tools installed on a new machine. I downloaded the entire ports.tar.gz and then placed all those contents in /usr/ports What are the best next steps to follow to get things up an running? I was hoping to install portsnap but here the error I am receiving. What is wrong? su-3.2# pkg_add -r portsnap Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz' by URL Cheers, Noah From nealhogan at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 19:47:07 2009 From: nealhogan at gmail.com (Neal Hogan) Date: Wed Aug 5 19:47:15 2009 Subject: new machine trying to install /usr/ports In-Reply-To: <4A79D704.2030908@enabled.com> References: <4A79D704.2030908@enabled.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Admin wrote: > hi there, > > I am trying to get some basic ports tools installed on a new machine. ?I > downloaded the entire ports.tar.gz and then placed all those contents in > /usr/ports > > What are the best next steps to follow to get things up an running? ?I was > hoping to install portsnap but here the error I am receiving. ?What is > wrong? > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/portsnap.html > > su-3.2# pkg_add -r portsnap > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz: > File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) > pkg_add: unable to fetch > 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-6-stable/Latest/portsnap.tbz' > by URL > > > Cheers, > > Noah > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From nightrecon at hotmail.com Wed Aug 5 20:57:39 2009 From: nightrecon at hotmail.com (Michael Powell) Date: Wed Aug 5 20:57:47 2009 Subject: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: Polytropon wrote: [snip] > >> Personally, I do think it's a pity, because FreeBSD (in my experience, >> since FreeBSD 4.5) is stable, easy to use (once you have the basic Unix >> concepts on board), and astonishingly well-documented. It's also >> supported by one of the friendliest and most knowledgeable communities I >> know. > > In relations to most Linusi and MICROS~1 stuff in general, FreeBSD is the > MOST EXCELLENT documented OS I've ever used - and I have used many OSes > during my "career". The FAQ, the handbook and especially the manpages are > great. Of course, that's my point of view as a developer. For a "normal > user", this might look a bit different, but finally, there's this very > helpful and friendly list. > Many people's only familiarity with computers in general will be from a Windows centric perspective. Somehow there is a tendency to believe that inserting a CD, booting, and then proceeding to click "OK" in a dialog box a few dozen times makes them some kind of expert when they successfully get Windows installed. Coming from a Windows centric environment myself I initially found that there was a great deal of material to be learned, and RTFM was the way to do it. I've noticed people who come from university computer science programs have a much better foundation upon which to build. Most computer users do not fit this category, myself included. While this deficiency can be overcome with self study, I am also aware that not everyone who reads documentation necessarily understands the material. If too much background education is missing the documentation just resembles gobbeldy-gook and is ignored, with the fall back position of "click OK a few dozen times and the OS will take care of it for me" expected to pick up the slack. I would not be where I am today in my understanding and use of FreeBSD if not for the excellent documentation and surrounding community. I feel I owe my success in utilizing FreeBSD to the people who took the time to write this stuff down for people like me to use. It is with a great measure of gratitude to these people I owe my success. [snip] -Mike From lgroups at waagmeester.co.za Wed Aug 5 20:59:04 2009 From: lgroups at waagmeester.co.za (Coert Waagmeester) Date: Wed Aug 5 20:59:12 2009 Subject: eclipse install Message-ID: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> Hello all, What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. Regards, Coert From bmcgover at cisco.com Wed Aug 5 21:01:15 2009 From: bmcgover at cisco.com (Brian McGovern) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:01:22 2009 Subject: Writing to a uhid device? Message-ID: <1249497579.39696.78.camel@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> I picked up a Velleman K8055 digital I/O controller that connects to a PC via a USB port. FreeBSD picks up this device as a uhid, and I can see the following elements: bmcgover-pc# usbhidctl -f /dev/uhid2 -r Report descriptor: Collection page=Microsoft usage=0x0001 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0001, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0002, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0003, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0004, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0005, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0006, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0007, logical range 0..255 Input size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0008, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0001, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0002, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0003, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0004, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0005, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0006, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0007, logical range 0..255 Output size=8 count=1 page=Microsoft usage=0x0008, logical range 0..255 End collection Total input size 8 bytes Total output size 0 bytes Total feature size 0 bytes Reading from the device 8 bytes at a time does whats expected - I can see the digital and analog inputs, the counters, etc, and all is fine. However, I notice on the above output that the "total output size" is 0, and writing 8 bytes of information to the device seems to do nothing for the outputs. I'm guessing at this point that its an issue somewhere with the driver, but a quick look at uhid_do_write() looks like its doing something, although the behavior changes around sc->sc_oid and sc->sc_osize (possible issue with the 'total output size' being 0, above?). Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas, or better yet, experience with such devices, before I spend a couple of days of banging my head against the wall trying to figure out whats happening "under the hood"? Is there a special/magic process? Or should I just be able to write the 8 bytes, 1 for each output, as I read the input? -B From miklosovic.freebsd at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:11:11 2009 From: miklosovic.freebsd at gmail.com (Stefan Miklosovic) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:11:17 2009 Subject: sshd and dhcp bind to specific address Message-ID: hi, my pc gets ip address from dhcp server, but on my pc, there is running sshd. I want to make ssh to listen to only one ip address, but if ip changes due to dhcp, ssh server do not work properly. I know, that dhcp is able to assign ip address to client from some range e.g. 192.168.0.1-254 It is possible to do the same with ssh in case that it is not possible to do it only with one ip? I want a solution which would work every time, not only some specific one. thank you From mgb-fbsd-questions at bylyd.org Wed Aug 5 21:16:09 2009 From: mgb-fbsd-questions at bylyd.org (Morten Grunnet Buhl) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:16:16 2009 Subject: Wierd X crash In-Reply-To: <1249475858.6074.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249475858.6074.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <20090805204926.GH68878@smtp.bylyd.org> * Coert Waagmeester [2009-08-05 14:37 +0200]: ... > Am running FreeBSD 7.2 i386 with the nvidia 173 driver with an AGP > GeForce FX 5200. > > My X works, with xinerama and two screens, perfectly, > but as soon as I hold down any key (like Backspace to remove a line of > text) X crashes. ... > > Any tips would be greatly appreciated. - Take a look at this PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/133946 I might be what you are seeing? -- I have no signature! From norgaard at locolomo.org Wed Aug 5 21:21:44 2009 From: norgaard at locolomo.org (Erik Norgaard) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:21:50 2009 Subject: sshd and dhcp bind to specific address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A79F7E5.9020509@locolomo.org> Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi, > > my pc gets ip address from dhcp server, > but on my pc, there is running > sshd. > > I want to make ssh to listen to only one > ip address, but if ip changes due to dhcp, > ssh server do not work properly. > > I know, that dhcp is able to assign ip address > to client from some range e.g. 192.168.0.1-254 > It is possible to do the same with ssh in case > that it is not possible to do it only with one ip? > > I want a solution which would work every time, > not only some specific one. I don't know if this will solve your problem, you can set ListenAddress in sshd_config, by default this is 0.0.0.0 or any. You can have multiple ListenAddress entries. I do not know if you can specify an ip-range, that would solve the problem I guess. It doesn't seem like you can configure sshd to bind to a particular interface, whichever address it may have, that would be the best solution. BR, Erik -- Erik N?rgaard Ph: +34.666334818/+34.915211157 http://www.locolomo.org From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:29:31 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:29:38 2009 Subject: sshd and dhcp bind to specific address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ad871310908051429q5d10f62bs8d9fff4f3a2d094e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > hi, > > my pc gets ip address from dhcp server, > but on my pc, there is running > sshd. > > I want to make ssh to listen to only one > ip address, but if ip changes due to dhcp, > ssh server do not work properly. > > I know, that dhcp is able to assign ip address > to client from some range e.g. 192.168.0.1-254 > It is possible to do the same with ssh in case > that it is not possible to do it only with one ip? > Is this a local network, inside 192.168.0.0/24 ? Are you able to configure a static IP for this machine? If not, I wrote a little script that runs every 15 minutes via cron(8) which gets my IP address, performs a diff(1) against a static file containing the current IP. If the IP is different, it mails me the new IP. However, this assumes t hat outside access is the problem, not internal access. -- Glen Barber From luis.henrix at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:30:05 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:30:12 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success. I started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error: "No disk found! Please verify that your disk controller..." Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time on the FreeBSD world). I get lines such as: atapci0: [...] atapci0: [ITHREAD] atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci0 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci0 ata4: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci0 ata5: [ITHREAD] [...] atapci1: [...] ata0: on atapci1 ata0: [ITHREAD] [...] (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload to some URL if needed.) So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors: acpi0_check: nexus0 attached acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present ... in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, but these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, which unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I have a Toshiba Satellite A210). Anyway, I decided to try a more recent version of FreeBSD and downloaded 8.0-CURRENT-200906-amd64-disc1.iso which was the most recent snapshot for my Turion64 processor. Tried to boot it but this time the installation just freeze before the install application event starts. Last log lines are: acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec md0: Preload image 4194304 bytes at 0xffffffff80fd8660 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set accurately And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes. Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD installation on my laptop. I am, of course, available to provide any additional information you might need to debug the issue. Thanks! -- Miguel From freebsd at edvax.de Wed Aug 5 21:33:40 2009 From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:33:47 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:00:08 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: > Hello all, > > What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? > > On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. On FreeBSD, you don't need to download things manually via a web browser in this old fashioned way. :-) Have a look at FreeBSD's ports collection. You'll find java/eclipse as well as many additions to this IDE. You can of course use the pkg_add -r command to install them, or your favourite port management program (portmaster, portinstall etc.), or use the "plain" method of "make install". There are different versions of Java availabe on FreeBSD. You can choose between Sun's JDK and the Diablo JDK, and there are some others. Sadly, I can't provide much more information because I have up using Java and Eclipse many years ago. :-( -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:33:48 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:33:57 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Miguel wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success. ?I > started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error: > > ?"No disk found! ?Please verify that your disk controller..." > > Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time on > the FreeBSD world). ?I get lines such as: > > atapci0: [...] > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci0 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > ata5: on atapci0 > ata5: [ITHREAD] > [...] > atapci1: [...] > ata0: on atapci1 > ata0: [ITHREAD] > [...] > > (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload to > some URL if needed.) > > So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors: > > acpi0_check: nexus0 attached > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > ... > > in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, but > these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, which > unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I > have a Toshiba Satellite A210). > [snip] > > acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST > device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > md0: Preload image 4194304 bytes at 0xffffffff80fd8660 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 > warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set accurately > > And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes. > > Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD > installation on my laptop. ?I am, of course, available to provide any additional > information you might need to debug the issue. > Can you try booting with ACPI disabled? It should be option 2 from the loader menu. -- Glen Barber From luis.henrix at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:35:46 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:35:53 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Glen, On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Miguel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success. ?I >> started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error: >> >> ?"No disk found! ?Please verify that your disk controller..." >> >> Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first time on >> the FreeBSD world). ?I get lines such as: >> >> atapci0: [...] >> atapci0: [ITHREAD] >> atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected >> ata2: on atapci0 >> ata2: [ITHREAD] >> ata3: on atapci0 >> ata3: [ITHREAD] >> ata4: on atapci0 >> ata4: [ITHREAD] >> ata5: on atapci0 >> ata5: [ITHREAD] >> [...] >> atapci1: [...] >> ata0: on atapci1 >> ata0: [ITHREAD] >> [...] >> >> (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload to >> some URL if needed.) >> >> So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors: >> >> acpi0_check: nexus0 attached >> acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present >> acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present >> acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present >> acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present >> ... >> >> in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the logs, but >> these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a buggy BIOS, which >> unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not windows installed (I >> have a Toshiba Satellite A210). >> > > > [snip] > > >> >> acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST >> device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6 >> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec >> md0: Preload image 4194304 bytes at 0xffffffff80fd8660 >> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! >> WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. >> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 >> warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set accurately >> >> And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes. >> >> Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD >> installation on my laptop. ?I am, of course, available to provide any additional >> information you might need to debug the issue. >> > > Can you try booting with ACPI disabled? ?It should be option 2 from > the loader menu. Yes, I tried that already with same results. Regards, Miguel From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:37:41 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:37:48 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguel wrote: > Hi Glen, > >> >> Can you try booting with ACPI disabled? ?It should be option 2 from >> the loader menu. > > Yes, I tried that already with same results. > Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a bad CD or bad burn)? Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine? -- Glen Barber From luis.henrix at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:45:59 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:46:05 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguel wrote: >> Hi Glen, >> >>> >>> Can you try booting with ACPI disabled? ?It should be option 2 from >>> the loader menu. >> >> Yes, I tried that already with same results. >> > > Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a > bad CD or bad burn)? The CD image seems to be fine (both of them): I have installed them on a Linux kvm virtual machine and there were no problems -- both are able to do the complete installation and I am able to boot the resulting image. (Sorry, no other "physical" machines available at the moment.) > Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine? I would love to upgrade my BIOS but I am unable to do that -- I have not Windows installed and my vendor requires Windows to be installed in order to perform the upgrade (yes, I know! I will never buy another laptop from them!) I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not sure if it will make any difference. As far as I understand, the snapshot I tried is more recent than 8.0-BETA2. Or am I wrong? Is it worth downloading one more ISO just to try it? Regards, Miguel From lgroups at waagmeester.co.za Wed Aug 5 21:52:18 2009 From: lgroups at waagmeester.co.za (Coert Waagmeester) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:52:24 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 23:33 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:00:08 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? > > > > On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. > > On FreeBSD, you don't need to download things manually via a web > browser in this old fashioned way. :-) > > Have a look at FreeBSD's ports collection. You'll find java/eclipse > as well as many additions to this IDE. You can of course use > the pkg_add -r command to install them, or your favourite port > management program (portmaster, portinstall etc.), or use the > "plain" method of "make install". > > There are different versions of Java availabe on FreeBSD. You > can choose between Sun's JDK and the Diablo JDK, and there are > some others. > > Sadly, I can't provide much more information because I have up > using Java and Eclipse many years ago. :-( > > > > > I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. And I do not know if it is important enough, but I want to use Eclipse 3.5 At the moment I am installing ports/java/jdk16 And then I'll try to use the download of eclipse 3.5 Thank you so far, Coert From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 21:52:58 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 21:53:05 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Miguel wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Miguel wrote: >>> Hi Glen, >>> >>>> >>>> Can you try booting with ACPI disabled? ?It should be option 2 from >>>> the loader menu. >>> >>> Yes, I tried that already with same results. >>> >> >> Can you try the installation media on another machine (to rule out a >> bad CD or bad burn)? > > The CD image seems to be fine (both of them): I have installed them on a Linux > kvm virtual machine and there were no problems -- both are able to do the > complete installation and I am able to boot the resulting image. > > (Sorry, no other "physical" machines available at the moment.) > That's fine. At least you know the media / image are working. >> Also, is it possible to upgrade the BIOS on the problem machine? > > I would love to upgrade my BIOS but I am unable to do that -- I have not Windows > installed and my vendor requires Windows to be installed in order to perform the > upgrade (yes, I know! ?I will never buy another laptop from them!) > No comment. :-) > I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not sure > if it will make any difference. ?As far as I understand, the snapshot I tried is > more recent than 8.0-BETA2. ?Or am I wrong? ?Is it worth downloading one more > ISO just to try it? > The -BETA, -BETA1, -BETA2 images are run the same way -RELEASE images are -- once the image is released, there are no further updates to it. That is why when you download a -RELEASE, any patches that may have been released afterwards are not reflected in the install image. For what it's worth, I tried the -BETA2 image on my laptop, and the ndis driver was causing panics. I used 7.2-RELEASE to install the OS, and rebuilt world/kernel from my build machine using NFS, and the panics went away. After rereading your original question, you were using a -CURRENT snapshot to install -- -BETA2 was released a few weeks ago. It may have the problem fixed, yes, but it is not guaranteed. To answer your question, "is it worth downloading...": that depends. If you're willing to waste another CD if it fails, is up to you, but your problem may be fixed in -BETA2. -- Glen Barber From luis.henrix at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 22:10:58 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:11:04 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051510y7c539328t15860b12b36d938c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: >> I have not tried 8.0-BETA (as someone on the IRC channel suggested) but not sure >> if it will make any difference. ?As far as I understand, the snapshot I tried is >> more recent than 8.0-BETA2. ?Or am I wrong? ?Is it worth downloading one more >> ISO just to try it? >> > > The -BETA, -BETA1, -BETA2 images are run the same way -RELEASE images > are -- once the image is released, there are no further updates to it. > ?That is why when you download a -RELEASE, any patches that may have > been released afterwards are not reflected in the install image. > > For what it's worth, I tried the -BETA2 image on my laptop, and the > ndis driver was causing panics. ?I used 7.2-RELEASE to install the OS, > and rebuilt world/kernel from my build machine using NFS, and the > panics went away. > > After rereading your original question, you were using a -CURRENT > snapshot to install -- -BETA2 was released a few weeks ago. ?It may > have the problem fixed, yes, but it is not guaranteed. ?To answer your > question, "is it worth downloading...": that depends. ?If you're > willing to waste another CD if it fails, is up to you, but your > problem may be fixed in -BETA2. Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the snapshot I tried. Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released. My problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow connection here) and most probably my problem will remain. Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from freebsd.org that I could replace in my ISO? Regards, Miguel From freebsd at edvax.de Wed Aug 5 22:11:34 2009 From: freebsd at edvax.de (Polytropon) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:11:41 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <20090806001127.461c7148.freebsd@edvax.de> On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:53:22 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: > I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: > Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. Seems to be a dependency. As far as I investigated the port's Makefile, gpatch should be fine, too. Instead of building the (g)patch utility, you could surely use pkg_add -r (g)patch to install it. I tried "make" in devel/patch and it seems to run well. Maybe you try to install (even build) patch prior to a new "make" attempt for eclipse. > And I do not know if it is important enough, but I want to use Eclipse > 3.5 As far as I checked, pkg_add will provide 3.4.? only at the moment. > And then I'll try to use the download of eclipse 3.5 If it runs on FreeBSD, there should be no problem. If it's a Linux binary, enable the Linux ABI which should make it run, too. > Thank you so far, > Coert Good luck! -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From djuatdelta at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 22:38:39 2009 From: djuatdelta at gmail.com (Daniel Underwood) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:38:47 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <20090806001127.461c7148.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090806001127.461c7148.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: I wish there was a FreeBSD package of the newest version of Eclipse CDT (or at least "ganymede" version). I do my research in Eclipse-CDT Galileo on multiple Linux systems, and it would be nice to be able to mess with things occasionally on my FreeBSD box. Although I can't recall specifics, I know things (e.g., project settings, makefile management) are done differently on the newer versions than on the version in the ports. If I'm wrong and/or I'm missing something, please, someone tell me. I'd LOVE to be wrong here :) From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 22:41:34 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:41:41 2009 Subject: sshd and dhcp bind to specific address In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200908051441.32469.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:11:08 Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > my pc gets ip address from dhcp server, > but on my pc, there is running > sshd. > > I want to make ssh to listen to only one > ip address, but if ip changes due to dhcp, > ssh server do not work properly. > > I know, that dhcp is able to assign ip address > to client from some range e.g. 192.168.0.1-254 > It is possible to do the same with ssh in case > that it is not possible to do it only with one ip? > > I want a solution which would work every time, > not only some specific one. Create a script called /etc/dhclient-exit-hooks. Check the dhclient-script manpage for some info on the available variables. From there you can work out if $new_ip_address is different from $old_ip_address, rewrite /etc/sshd_config with the new ip address and restart sshd. -- Mel From roberthuff at rcn.com Wed Aug 5 22:43:15 2009 From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:43:22 2009 Subject: sshd and dhcp bind to specific address In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051429q5d10f62bs8d9fff4f3a2d094e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ad871310908051429q5d10f62bs8d9fff4f3a2d094e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A7A0AE0.9050403@rcn.com> Glen Barber wrote: >> my pc gets ip address from dhcp server, >> but on my pc, there is running >> sshd. >> >> I want to make ssh to listen to only one >> ip address, but if ip changes due to dhcp, >> ssh server do not work properly. >> >> I know, that dhcp is able to assign ip address >> to client from some range e.g. 192.168.0.1-254 >> It is possible to do the same with ssh in case >> that it is not possible to do it only with one ip? >> > > Is this a local network, inside 192.168.0.0/24 ? Are you able to > configure a static IP for this machine? > > If not, I wrote a little script that runs every 15 minutes via cron(8) > which gets my IP address, performs a diff(1) against a static file > containing the current IP. If the IP is different, it mails me the > new IP. However, this assumes that outside access is the problem, > not internal access. I have a set of scripts I run when I know I have been handed a different address; they're not pretty, but they change the IP for sshd.conf and various stuff in bind. Robert Huff From glen.j.barber at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 22:48:32 2009 From: glen.j.barber at gmail.com (Glen Barber) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:48:40 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <5b2efe7c0908051510y7c539328t15860b12b36d938c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051510y7c539328t15860b12b36d938c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad871310908051548m5bf426c3q57a4f1cfb97176aa@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguel wrote: > Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the snapshot I > tried. ?Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released. ?My > problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow > connection here) and most probably my problem will remain. > Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though. > Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from freebsd.org > that I could replace in my ISO? > Not that I am aware of. -- Glen Barber From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Wed Aug 5 22:50:05 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:50:12 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <200908051450.03490.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:53:22 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: > Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. I believe you have a defective ports tree. You should have the following file: SHA256 (/usr/ports/devel/patch/pkg-descr) = 629097523839c5e305a4115c1b3629029b734166e5ff8f73923812e0149e9912 If you do not, then try updating your ports tree and look for errors/warnings with whatever method you're using. -- Mel From luis.henrix at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 22:55:41 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Wed Aug 5 22:55:49 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051548m5bf426c3q57a4f1cfb97176aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051510y7c539328t15860b12b36d938c@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051548m5bf426c3q57a4f1cfb97176aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051555j1d79e3a1k2bc32b57b61c5d17@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguel wrote: >> Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the snapshot I >> tried. ?Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released. ?My >> problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow >> connection here) and most probably my problem will remain. >> > > Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though. Hmm... Ok, I will try it then. Not sure if I am able to do this today, but I try it. >> Isn't there a way (an easy way, I mean!) to get a custom kernel from freebsd.org >> that I could replace in my ISO? >> > > Not that I am aware of. Right, I could not find it too. Regards, Miguel From tfcheng at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 23:53:40 2009 From: tfcheng at gmail.com (Tsu-Fan Cheng) Date: Wed Aug 5 23:53:47 2009 Subject: qt4 issue Message-ID: Hi, just update ports today and found out qt4 splitting into more ports. I am not sure why I install qt4 in the first place, and I don't run KDE. Can someone remind me of possible use of qt4 in a system? And, the only necessary qt I need is qt-copy, which is deported, I guess. How can I fix this?? thx TFC From tajudd at gmail.com Wed Aug 5 23:54:32 2009 From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd) Date: Wed Aug 5 23:54:39 2009 Subject: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to In-Reply-To: <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> Message-ID: On 7/29/09, Doug Poland wrote: > On Wed, July 29, 2009 12:04, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: >> >> At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, >> Doug Poland wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card >>> working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). >>> >>> I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with >>> >>> options COM_MULTIPORT >>> >>> and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? >>> devices in /dev. >>> >>> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) >>> talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular >>> hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. >>> >>> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. >>> >>> >> Hi. >> >> If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you should >> load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But these drivers >> are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should to remove sio(4) or >> uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a loadable module. >> >> The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the >> kernel. i.e.: >> >> sio(4) puc(4) status >> or uart(4) >> ---------------------------------------- >> module module work >> builtin builtin work >> builtin module not work <- current choice? >> module builtin not work >> ---------------------------------------- >> (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) >> >> Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. >> > I removed devices sio and uart from my kernel, loaded them as modules > in /boot/loader.conf, and now I have 8 additional cuad? devices! > > Many thanks for your help. > > -- > Regards, > Doug Trying to help a buddy who also has a Moxa multiport serial card. He followed this thread and isn't seeing the same success Doug, can I get the following in a pastebin or in this thread? pciconf -lvvv thanks! From luis.henrix at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 00:04:56 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Thu Aug 6 00:05:03 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <4ad871310908051548m5bf426c3q57a4f1cfb97176aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051433u6c3fdfadt6ee5af3280a6e89e@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051435g2b1d35a3pf5d4a71af74329d8@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051437l3a24a911le2534ffc964d13b8@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051445w52a638cfm6eebb2ec42db7132@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051452y7b75109ag56a652dc7cb23aba@mail.gmail.com> <5b2efe7c0908051510y7c539328t15860b12b36d938c@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310908051548m5bf426c3q57a4f1cfb97176aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908051704g3e012cc3g977b3ef374cd13d7@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Miguel wrote: >> Yes, I understand -- just realised that BETA2 is more recent than the snapshot I >> tried. ?Most probably, I'll just wait until 8.0 is actually released. ?My >> problem with trying BETA2 is that it will take long time to get it (slow >> connection here) and most probably my problem will remain. >> > > Possible that it will remain - more probable that it has been fixed though. Ok, some updates: I downloaded 8.0-BETA2 ISO and the result was exactly the same, i.e., system freezes during CD boot in the same point as before. This time I did not actually tried to install the CD on a virtual machine, but I can not believe it is a problem with the CD image ;-) This time I disabled _everything_ I could disable in my BIOS and selected several options from the boot manager: the default option, the option with ACPI disabled, the option "safe-mode" (or something like that...) and finally the "verbose" option, which gave me some more information. Here's the last messages I see in the console before freeze: start_init: trying /sbin/init start_init: trying /sbin/oinit start_init: trying /sbin/init.bak start_init: trying /rescue/init start_init: trying /stand/sysinstall And that's all. Any ideas? :-( Regards, Miguel From doug at polands.org Thu Aug 6 00:28:47 2009 From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland) Date: Thu Aug 6 00:28:54 2009 Subject: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to In-Reply-To: References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> Message-ID: <20090806002844.GA83722@polands.org> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:54:30PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On 7/29/09, Doug Poland wrote: > > On Wed, July 29, 2009 12:04, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: > >> > >> At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, > >> Doug Poland wrote: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card > >>> working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). > >>> > >>> I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with > >>> > >>> options COM_MULTIPORT > >>> > >>> and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? > >>> devices in /dev. > >>> > >>> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man > >>> sio(4) talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my > >>> particular hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. > >>> > >>> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. > >>> > >>> > >> Hi. > >> > >> If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you > >> should load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But these > >> drivers are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should to > >> remove sio(4) or uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a loadable > >> module. > >> > >> The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the > >> kernel. i.e.: > >> > >> sio(4) puc(4) status > >> or uart(4) > >> ---------------------------------------- > >> module module work > >> builtin builtin work > >> builtin module not work <- current choice? > >> module builtin not work > >> ---------------------------------------- > >> (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) > >> > >> Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. > >> > > Watanabe, > > > > I removed devices sio and uart from my kernel, loaded them as > > modules in /boot/loader.conf, and now I have 8 additional cuad? > > devices! > > > > Trying to help a buddy who also has a Moxa multiport serial card. He > followed this thread and isn't seeing the same success > > Doug, > can I get the following in a pastebin or in this thread? > > pciconf -lvvv > Certainly... hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25708086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25728086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82865G Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d48086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d78086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24de8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24dd8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xc2 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub Interface to PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x01511028 chip=0x24db8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d18086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus none1@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d58086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '815B104D multimedia audio device (codec AC97) SoundMAX or VIA' class = multimedia subclass = audio puc0@pci0:1:9:0: class=0x070080 card=0x00000000 chip=0x16801393 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Moxa Technologies Co Ltd' device = 'C168H/PCI Smartio' class = simple comms subclass = UART em0@pci0:1:12:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x100e8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller' class = network subclass = ethernet Also, kernel config just in case you need it: ident GENERIC-MUX-SIO include GENERIC options COM_MULTIPORT nooptions sio nooptions uart and /boot/loader.conf: sio_load="YES" puc_load="YES" snd_ich_load="NO" Good luck! -- Regards, Doug From tajudd at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 00:34:47 2009 From: tajudd at gmail.com (Tim Judd) Date: Thu Aug 6 00:34:54 2009 Subject: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to In-Reply-To: <20090806002844.GA83722@polands.org> References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090806002844.GA83722@polands.org> Message-ID: On 8/5/09, Doug Poland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:54:30PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: >> On 7/29/09, Doug Poland wrote: >> > On Wed, July 29, 2009 12:04, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: >> >> >> >> At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, >> >> Doug Poland wrote: >> >>> Hello, >> >>> >> >>> I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card >> >>> working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). >> >>> >> >>> I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with >> >>> >> >>> options COM_MULTIPORT >> >>> >> >>> and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? >> >>> devices in /dev. >> >>> >> >>> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man >> >>> sio(4) talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my >> >>> particular hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. >> >>> >> >>> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Hi. >> >> >> >> If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you >> >> should load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But these >> >> drivers are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should to >> >> remove sio(4) or uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a loadable >> >> module. >> >> >> >> The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the >> >> kernel. i.e.: >> >> >> >> sio(4) puc(4) status >> >> or uart(4) >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> module module work >> >> builtin builtin work >> >> builtin module not work <- current choice? >> >> module builtin not work >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> >> (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) >> >> >> >> Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. >> >> >> > Watanabe, >> > >> > I removed devices sio and uart from my kernel, loaded them as >> > modules in /boot/loader.conf, and now I have 8 additional cuad? >> > devices! >> > >> >> Trying to help a buddy who also has a Moxa multiport serial card. He >> followed this thread and isn't seeing the same success >> >> Doug, >> can I get the following in a pastebin or in this thread? >> >> pciconf -lvvv >> > Certainly... > > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25708086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface' > class = bridge > subclass = HOST-PCI > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25728086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82865G Integrated Graphics Device' > class = display > subclass = VGA > uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d28086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d48086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d78086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > uhci3@pci0:0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24de8086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24dd8086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = USB > pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xc2 > hdr=0x01 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub > Interface to PCI Bridge' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24d08086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-ISA > atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x01511028 chip=0x24db8086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d18086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller' > class = mass storage > subclass = ATA > none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' > class = serial bus > subclass = SMBus > none1@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d58086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '815B104D multimedia audio device (codec AC97) SoundMAX or > VIA' > class = multimedia > subclass = audio > puc0@pci0:1:9:0: class=0x070080 card=0x00000000 chip=0x16801393 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Moxa Technologies Co Ltd' > device = 'C168H/PCI Smartio' > class = simple comms > subclass = UART > em0@pci0:1:12:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x100e8086 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > device = '82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > > > Also, kernel config just in case you need it: > > ident GENERIC-MUX-SIO > include GENERIC > options COM_MULTIPORT > nooptions sio > nooptions uart > > and /boot/loader.conf: > sio_load="YES" > puc_load="YES" > snd_ich_load="NO" > > > Good luck! > Thanks Doug! He has the PCI device ID 1682, and you have the 1680. The 1682 is not already in the driver. I've added it to his driver and we're recompiling right now. We'll do a quick test, then write a bug report if all looks stable. This output was very useful, thank you very much. :) From doug at polands.org Thu Aug 6 00:40:36 2009 From: doug at polands.org (Doug Poland) Date: Thu Aug 6 00:40:43 2009 Subject: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to In-Reply-To: References: <06297f4d151cb94042e8efd01e04afdb.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090729170409.979FF7816C@mail2.asahi-net.or.jp> <6579ba376a1ddbe9c4edc1e0d750bdc3.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20090806002844.GA83722@polands.org> Message-ID: <20090806004033.GA83951@polands.org> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:34:45PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/5/09, Doug Poland wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 05:54:30PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote: > >> On 7/29/09, Doug Poland wrote: > >> > On Wed, July 29, 2009 12:04, WATANABE Kazuhiro wrote: > >> >> > >> >> At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, > >> >> Doug Poland wrote: > >> >>> Hello, > >> >>> > >> >>> I'm trying to get a Moxa Technologies C168H/PCI 8-port mux card > >> >>> working in 7.2-RELEASE(i386). > >> >>> > >> >>> I've recompiled a GENERIC kernel with > >> >>> > >> >>> options COM_MULTIPORT > >> >>> > >> >>> and loaded the puc(4) module. I don't have any new ttyd? or cuad? > >> >>> devices in /dev. > >> >>> > >> >>> After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man > >> >>> sio(4) talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my > >> >>> particular hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. > >> >>> > >> >>> Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> Hi. > >> >> > >> >> If you want to load the puc(4) driver as a loadable module, you > >> >> should load the sio(4) or uart(4) driver module as well. But > >> >> these drivers are included in the GENERIC kernel. So you should > >> >> to remove sio(4) or uart(4) from the kernel and load it as a > >> >> loadable module. > >> >> > >> >> The other solution is to builtin the puc(4) driver to the > >> >> kernel. i.e.: > >> >> > >> >> sio(4) puc(4) status > >> >> or uart(4) > >> >> ---------------------------------------- > >> >> module module work > >> >> builtin builtin work > >> >> builtin module not work <- current choice? > >> >> module builtin not work > >> >> ---------------------------------------- > >> >> (module = loadable module, builtin = kernel builtin) > >> >> > >> >> Other modifications will not be needed for PCI multiport cards. > >> >> > >> > Watanabe, > >> > > >> > I removed devices sio and uart from my kernel, loaded them as > >> > modules in /boot/loader.conf, and now I have 8 additional cuad? > >> > devices! > >> > > >> > >> Trying to help a buddy who also has a Moxa multiport serial card. > >> He followed this thread and isn't seeing the same success > >> > >> Doug, > >> can I get the following in a pastebin or in this thread? > >> > >> pciconf -lvvv > >> > > Certainly... > > > > hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25708086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface' > > class = bridge > > subclass = HOST-PCI > > vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x25728086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82865G Integrated Graphics Device' > > class = display > > subclass = VGA > > uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d28086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = USB > > uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d48086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = USB > > uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d78086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = USB > > uhci3@pci0:0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24de8086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = USB > > ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24dd8086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = USB > > pcib1@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x244e8086 rev=0xc2 > > hdr=0x01 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub > > Interface to PCI Bridge' > > class = bridge > > subclass = PCI-PCI > > isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24d08086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge' > > class = bridge > > subclass = PCI-ISA > > atapci0@pci0:0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x01511028 chip=0x24db8086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller' > > class = mass storage > > subclass = ATA > > atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x01018f card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d18086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller' > > class = mass storage > > subclass = ATA > > none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d38086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller' > > class = serial bus > > subclass = SMBus > > none1@pci0:0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x01511028 chip=0x24d58086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '815B104D multimedia audio device (codec AC97) SoundMAX or > > VIA' > > class = multimedia > > subclass = audio > > puc0@pci0:1:9:0: class=0x070080 card=0x00000000 chip=0x16801393 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Moxa Technologies Co Ltd' > > device = 'C168H/PCI Smartio' > > class = simple comms > > subclass = UART > > em0@pci0:1:12:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01511028 chip=0x100e8086 rev=0x02 > > hdr=0x00 > > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > > device = '82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller' > > class = network > > subclass = ethernet > > > > > > Also, kernel config just in case you need it: > > > > ident GENERIC-MUX-SIO > > include GENERIC > > options COM_MULTIPORT > > nooptions sio > > nooptions uart > > > > and /boot/loader.conf: > > sio_load="YES" > > puc_load="YES" > > snd_ich_load="NO" > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > Thanks Doug! > > He has the PCI device ID 1682, and you have the 1680. The 1682 is not > already in the driver. I've added it to his driver and we're > recompiling right now. We'll do a quick test, then write a bug report > if all looks stable. > > > This output was very useful, thank you very much. > Glad I could be the helper, instead of the helpee for once. And thanks to Watanabe Kazuhiro. -- Regards, Doug From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Thu Aug 6 00:47:33 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Thu Aug 6 00:47:41 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200908051647.30315.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:01:30 Miguel wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to install FreeBSD in my laptop, but without success. I > started with 7.2, but during installation i got the error: > > "No disk found! Please verify that your disk controller..." > > Looking at the logs, everything seems fine to me (although its my first > time on the FreeBSD world). I get lines such as: > > atapci0: [...] > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > atapci0: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci0 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > ata5: on atapci0 > ata5: [ITHREAD] > [...] > atapci1: [...] > ata0: on atapci1 > ata0: [ITHREAD] > [...] > > (Note that i wrote these logs manually -- got some photos that I can upload > to some URL if needed.) > > So, could not find any issues in the logs, apart from some ACPI errors: > > acpi0_check: nexus0 attached > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > acpi0_check: acpi0 not-present > ... > > in fact, I have some other ACPI-related errors at the beginning of the > logs, but these are common also on Linux -- I believe these are due to a > buggy BIOS, which unfortunately I am not able to upgrade since I have not > windows installed (I have a Toshiba Satellite A210). > > Anyway, I decided to try a more recent version of FreeBSD and downloaded > > 8.0-CURRENT-200906-amd64-disc1.iso > > which was the most recent snapshot for my Turion64 processor. > > Tried to boot it but this time the installation just freeze before the > install application event starts. Last log lines are: > > acpi0: Could not initialise SystemIO handler: AE_NOT_EXIST > device_attach: acpi0 attach returned 6 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > md0: Preload image 4194304 bytes at 0xffffffff80fd8660 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/md0 > warning: no time-of-day clock registered, system time will not be set > accurately > > And at this point... nothing else -- system freezes. > > Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions for me to have a FreeBSD > installation on my laptop. I am, of course, available to provide any > additional information you might need to debug the issue. Your best bet is to poll the mobile list (CC'd) to see if anyone was able to get FreeBSD working on this laptop (or even to know whether this is a lost cause till somebody makes some patches for this laptop). Since 7.2 also does not work and with 8.0-RELEASE being in it's final stages, it's unlikely you can get some priority from the developers for it being a regression bug. The acpi and missing disk can be related (most likely are), but unless you get at least a live FS working (even the USB image for 8.0-BETA2) it will be hard to get an acpidump(8). So this really depends on "someone knowledgeable having this laptop" or BIOS tricks that get you to a stage where more info can be gathered and saved/snapshot. -- Mel From frank at shute.org.uk Thu Aug 6 01:46:19 2009 From: frank at shute.org.uk (Frank Shute) Date: Thu Aug 6 01:46:26 2009 Subject: Opera in your repos In-Reply-To: <200908050743.05363.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200908050743.05363.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <20090806014605.GA98688@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 07:43:05AM -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > [snip] > > Well, we can start to agree that FreeBSD is not a "distro", but a UNIX > operating system. :) We can't quite agree on that ;) BSD=Berkeley Software Distribution AKA distro of Unix At least the OP didn't make the faux pas of calling FreeBSD a Linux distro like one of his colleagues did a couple of years ago on this list. He'll also be relieved to know that plenty of people use Opera on FreeBSD. I'd point him to bsdstats for some numbers but it doesn't seem very functional ATM. [snip] Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From kline at thought.org Thu Aug 6 02:51:06 2009 From: kline at thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Thu Aug 6 02:51:13 2009 Subject: foot-shot? In-Reply-To: <20090805174038.GA19895@thought.org> References: <20090805174038.GA19895@thought.org> Message-ID: <20090806025100.GA79700@thought.org> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:40:38AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > Hm. Last night mutt began to fail to sent mail; it exited with a > 127. When I tried to rebuilt mutt, turns out that I'm missing > GNU m4... . I'll paste the build snafus after my sig here on my > server. Ideas how things got hosed? anybody? > [[ ... ]] > > > ===> Configuring for mutt-1.4.2.3_3 > /usr/local/share/aclocal/soup.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of > AM_PATH_SOUP foo, bar, baz ... > > Well, gents [*], Somehow my installed world got partially deleted and to save myself further grief, I rebuilt everything. *Then* rebuilt mutt. portmaster gets stuck on the java stuff because we still hasta fetch it ourselves. I thought Sun was going to fix that. In any case, my diablo-jdk16 timezone file is MIA, so I'm wedged as far as further upgrading goes. Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping everything current is painful. Does anybody know if PCBSD is as pushbutton as, say, Ubuntu is? I'll always use FreeBSD on my DNS, apache22, and mail server side. Zero crashes in 7 years. But if I want to play music or watch a DVD--or do serious web video stuff--I use Ubuntu. I'd like to say kilowatts by having one "tao" that can handle everything from hacking code to playing a movie. There is the talent here to fix the fixable ... at the same time, we've all got real lives, jobs, school, families, etc. And a limited volunteer base. ...That's my dime's worth. gary [*] to spare raging replies, no, i am not a sexist/chauvinist. Only 30 years ago about a third of my computer class was female. Not to mention some drop-dead blondes in my ckt theory class... . I mean, some serious female EE talent there! :-) ... Now?? dunno. [?] :-( -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From peter at boosten.org Thu Aug 6 02:53:29 2009 From: peter at boosten.org (Peter Boosten) Date: Thu Aug 6 02:53:36 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <4A7A45A3.4080902@boosten.org> Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:00:08 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? >> >> On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. > > On FreeBSD, you don't need to download things manually via a web > browser in this old fashioned way. :-) Unfortunately this is not true for the jdk. But it's only a minor disadvantage ;-) Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From stark at mapper.nl Thu Aug 6 06:36:10 2009 From: stark at mapper.nl (Mark Stapper) Date: Thu Aug 6 06:36:18 2009 Subject: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core In-Reply-To: <200908050654.26375.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <200908051414.49468.david@vizion2000.net> <20090805132755.GA21963@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <200908050654.26375.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 05:27:55 Erik Trulsson wrote: > > >> The amd64 architecture is called that because it was AMD who invented and >> created it and was for a while the only one using it and since AMD named >> the architecture AMD64 that was the name FreeBSD used too. Later Intel >> also started using it (while using their own name(s) for it), but FreeBSD >> has stuck with the name amd64. >> > > This isn't completely correct. There is actually an ia64 architecture, before > Intel was ready to give up the "who dictates the PC 64bit architecture" > battle. There's a handful of CPU's who use that instruction set, but later > Intel switched to supporting AMD's instruction set and thus the PC 64 bit > architecture now is amd64. > > It'll be fun to see people asking in a few years why Oracle processors are > called "sparc64"... > Now I come to think of it, isn't it strange apple(or IBM) never joined in the whole 64-bits naming race spactacle. No one ever calls a PowerPC 970 processor a PowerPC-64, or a IBM64 or anything like it... Nor have I ever heard the term RISC64. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20090806/87342da4/signature.pgp From mail25 at bzerk.org Thu Aug 6 07:02:32 2009 From: mail25 at bzerk.org (Ruben de Groot) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:02:40 2009 Subject: Some problems with Marvell Yukon NIC In-Reply-To: <1019707548.20090805184415@sng.by> References: <1019707548.20090805184415@sng.by> Message-ID: <20090806070225.GA25764@ei.bzerk.org> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 06:44:15PM +0300, Anton typed: > > Hello freebsd-questions, > > Found the solution here: [1]http ://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2008-10/msg01065 > .html > But do not know how to apply patch :-( The URL you posted says it all: Save attached patch to /path/to/patch #cd /usr/src/sys/dev/msk #patch -p0 < /path/to/patch/msk.watchdog.diff And rebuild your kernel. What else is there to know? From lgroups at waagmeester.co.za Thu Aug 6 07:07:24 2009 From: lgroups at waagmeester.co.za (Coert Waagmeester) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:07:31 2009 Subject: eclipse install (broken ports tree) In-Reply-To: <200908051450.03490.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <20090805233332.2f58fa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <1249509202.4520.10.camel@penguin.coert.local> <200908051450.03490.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <1249542509.4568.3.camel@penguin.coert.local> On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:50 -0800, Mel Flynn wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:53:22 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > > > I tried it via the ports, but this error keeps popping up: > > Missing pkg-descr for patch-2.5.9. > > I believe you have a defective ports tree. You should have the following file: > SHA256 (/usr/ports/devel/patch/pkg-descr) = > 629097523839c5e305a4115c1b3629029b734166e5ff8f73923812e0149e9912 > > If you do not, then try updating your ports tree and look for errors/warnings > with whatever method you're using. Hi Mel, In /usr/ports/ i deleted everything. Then I ran a portsnap fetch and then portsnap extract and portsnap update. But I still get Missing pkg-descr for dtach-0.8. my shasum on /usr/ports/devel/patch/pkg-descr is the same as yours.... How can I completely wipe out the ports and start over? Regards, Coert From 240olofsson at telia.com Thu Aug 6 07:13:31 2009 From: 240olofsson at telia.com (Roger Olofsson) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:13:38 2009 Subject: eclipse install In-Reply-To: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <4A7A7262.9000402@telia.com> Coert Waagmeester skrev: > Hello all, > > What is the best way to install eclipse on FreeBSD 7.2? > > On Linux I installed java, and downloaded the newest eclipse. > > Regards, > Coert > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi Coert, I had an issue some time back and I posted this to the list. I don't know if it'll help you. ------ Dear mailing list, I don't know if anyone has noticed or if it's my machine having stale ports but it seems that to make eclipse 3.4.1 working on FreeBSD 7.1 STABLE with diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_4 you need to do the following: Do _not_ make clean until you have made: cp /usr/ports/java/eclipse/work/plugins/org.eclipse.swt.gtk.freebsd.x86/gtk/library/libswt* /usr/local/diablo-jdk1.6.0/jre/lib/i386/client/ It seems like make install builds the swt-gtk:s but that the .jar somehow 'misses' adding them in. /Roger ------ From perryh at pluto.rain.com Thu Aug 6 07:21:18 2009 From: perryh at pluto.rain.com (perryh@pluto.rain.com) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:21:27 2009 Subject: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core In-Reply-To: <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> References: <200908051414.49468.david@vizion2000.net> <20090805132755.GA21963@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <200908050654.26375.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <4a7a812e.QBbJy5xiiC3zW6lI%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mark Stapper wrote: > ... PowerPC is dead ... I suspect both IBM and Freescale would beg to differ :) From stark at mapper.nl Thu Aug 6 07:43:58 2009 From: stark at mapper.nl (Mark Stapper) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:44:05 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) In-Reply-To: References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> > > > Many people's only familiarity with computers in general will be from a > Windows centric perspective. Somehow there is a tendency to believe that > inserting a CD, booting, and then proceeding to click "OK" in a dialog box a > few dozen times makes them some kind of expert when they successfully get > Windows installed. > > Coming from a Windows centric environment myself I initially found that > there was a great deal of material to be learned, and RTFM was the way to do > it. I've noticed people who come from university computer science programs > have a much better foundation upon which to build. Most computer users do > not fit this category, myself included. > > While this deficiency can be overcome with self study, I am also aware that > not everyone who reads documentation necessarily understands the material. > If too much background education is missing the documentation just resembles > gobbeldy-gook and is ignored, with the fall back position of "click OK a few > dozen times and the OS will take care of it for me" expected to pick up the > slack. > > I would not be where I am today in my understanding and use of FreeBSD if > not for the excellent documentation and surrounding community. I feel I owe > my success in utilizing FreeBSD to the people who took the time to write > this stuff down for people like me to use. It is with a great measure of > gratitude to these people I owe my success. > > > [snip] > > -Mike > In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user should. The problem herein, i am afraid, lies not with FreeBSD(or any other BSD flavour), nor with it's community, but with the computer user. Most computer users see an operating system(and the application they run most) as part of a computer. How many people say "My computer is broken" when ?$ Office doesn't start anymore. They don't care about which kernel they run, or which browser they use, they care about typing e-mail, chatting and watching youtube video's. (However sad it makes me that most people use less then 10% of the features/programs/potential/computing-power the computer came with, they do make sure we pay less for our components.) Even though I'd feel less "cool" or "nerdy" (which is basically the same thing ;-) ) if I'd run(or USE) the same OS as my 76 year old grandfather, it would be nice for him to be able to buy a computer for $20 less because it runs FreeBSD. To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. Since most people never reinstall their computer, making it easier to install a basic desktop system won't help my 76 year old grandpa, but it will make it easier for unsatisfied Windows users to try FreeBSD. Besides, in making it easy to install a basic desktop system, comes the hardest part of any *nix like system: defining a basic desktop and collecting the basic/standard applications. It's hard just to pick either one Gnome, KDE or XFCE (or iceWM ;-) ) let alone mail-clients, internet browsers, IM, etc. etc. One of the advantages of using a descent operating system is the freedom of choice. However most users don't care! I am more then happy to tel anyone which e-mail client not to use (Lotus notes, outlook express, anyone else's neck hears standing up?), but I don't want to tell people they HAVE to use Thunderbird(I do tell them they SHOULD but that's different) or evolution etc. The problem is, most people don't want to make this choice either. And the circle of life continues. So basically, to make sure people will be using freeBSD (or any *nix operating system) it needs to be easy to install (So that PC-manufacturers will ship their pc's with it), a nicely filled standard desktop environment with lot's of youtube/chat/word process capabilities and "I won't bother you with it but i'm updating" functionality. Just some thoughts.. 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One trick it does that I appreciate is assigning a letter to every link. When you hold down the control key, the letters appear and you can navigate just by pressing control and a letter key. Konqueror certainly has its detractors though, so I guess it's a matter of taste. > > Happy hunting. > mmmm opera.... Opera is suitable for anyone who takes the time to configure it to their wishes. That said, it would probably suit every FreeBSD user... Am I right? I'm right, right? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Keeping the base system and ports up to date. > And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the > user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. This is what a couple of projects are already doing. PC-BSD springs to mind - I can't remember what the other one is called. PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified package manager. Jonathan From m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk Thu Aug 6 07:57:40 2009 From: m.seaman at infracaninophile.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Date: Thu Aug 6 07:57:46 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) In-Reply-To: <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <4A7A8CDB.20004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mark Stapper wrote: > In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement > in the FreeBSD corner. > What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use > FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. HTH HAND Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You should have the following file: > > SHA256 (/usr/ports/devel/patch/pkg-descr) = > > 629097523839c5e305a4115c1b3629029b734166e5ff8f73923812e0149e9912 > > > > If you do not, then try updating your ports tree and look for errors/warnings > > with whatever method you're using. > > Hi Mel, > > In /usr/ports/ i deleted everything. > > Then I ran a portsnap fetch > and then portsnap extract and portsnap update. > > But I still get Missing pkg-descr for dtach-0.8. > > my shasum on /usr/ports/devel/patch/pkg-descr is the same as yours.... > > How can I completely wipe out the ports and start over? > > Regards, > Coert Hello all, I fixed the ports problem following this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-December/037566.html I have PKGDIR variable exported. From luis.henrix at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 08:26:17 2009 From: luis.henrix at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Thu Aug 6 08:26:26 2009 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <200908051647.30315.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <5b2efe7c0908051401w62088d7en1af537741bd24f89@mail.gmail.com> <200908051647.30315.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <5b2efe7c0908060126i6ae88c73pbae3882f00c2cbd3@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Mel Flynn wrote: > Your best bet is to poll the mobile list (CC'd) to see if anyone was able to > get FreeBSD working on this laptop (or even to know whether this is a lost > cause till somebody makes some patches for this laptop). Since 7.2 also does > not work and with 8.0-RELEASE being in it's final stages, it's unlikely you > can get some priority from the developers for it being a regression bug. The > acpi and missing disk can be related (most likely are), but unless you get at > least a live FS working (even the USB image for 8.0-BETA2) it will be hard to > get an acpidump(8). So this really depends on "someone knowledgeable having > this laptop" or BIOS tricks that get you to a stage where more info can be > gathered and saved/snapshot. Ok, I understand chances to have it running in the short term are not high :-) Anyway, and since I am replying to the mobile list, I am available to provide more information about the laptop. I have Linux running on it and I believe there is something similar to the acpidump (not sure if its the same tool as in FreeBSD or if their outputs are compatible) that I could use to provide some more details. Regards, Miguel From erich at apsara.com.sg Thu Aug 6 08:31:14 2009 From: erich at apsara.com.sg (Erich Dollansky) Date: Thu Aug 6 08:31:22 2009 Subject: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core In-Reply-To: <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> References: <200908051414.49468.david@vizion2000.net> <200908050654.26375.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <200908061631.04639.erich@apsara.com.sg> Hi, On 06 August 2009 pm 14:35:40 Mark Stapper wrote: > Mel Flynn wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 05:27:55 Erik Trulsson wrote: > >> The amd64 architecture is called that because it was AMD who > >> invented and created it and was for a while the only one > > Now I come to think of it, isn't it strange apple(or IBM) never > joined in the whole 64-bits naming race spactacle. Because people using them, new what they were doing. > Nor have I ever heard the term RISC64. Too bad we won't have to > worry about that anymore, since PowerPC is dead and Mac Pro's > are now amd64(or Intel 64 or x86-64 whichever would be the IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the Itanium? Yes, also Intel can fail. Intel also failed with their first 32 bit design. Wasn't iAPX-32 ist name? Long before the 80386 came up? Erich From stark at mapper.nl Thu Aug 6 08:40:54 2009 From: stark at mapper.nl (Mark Stapper) Date: Thu Aug 6 08:41:06 2009 Subject: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core In-Reply-To: <200908061631.04639.erich@apsara.com.sg> References: <200908051414.49468.david@vizion2000.net> <200908050654.26375.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <4A7A79BC.1030600@mapper.nl> <200908061631.04639.erich@apsara.com.sg> Message-ID: <4A7A9709.9070803@mapper.nl> Erich Dollansky wrote: > Because people using them, new what they were doing. > And probably didn't care... > IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the > Itanium? > The one that didn't stick... indeed. > Yes, also Intel can fail. Intel also failed with their first 32 > bit design. Wasn't iAPX-32 ist name? Long before the 80386 came > up? > As I was an embryo when the 80386 was first produced, I searched for this one... Possibally the same thing though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_iAPX_432 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Intel also failed with their first > > 32 bit design. Wasn't iAPX-32 ist name? Long before the 80386 > > came up? > > As I was an embryo when the 80386 was first produced, I > searched for this one... > Possibally the same thing though: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_iAPX_432 Oh, yes, the 4 was missing. Erich From cpghost at cordula.ws Thu Aug 6 10:02:17 2009 From: cpghost at cordula.ws (cpghost) Date: Thu Aug 6 10:02:23 2009 Subject: Secure password generation...blasphemy! In-Reply-To: <64c038660908040939o349b7b16o6659d5f5f2eb65fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <64c038660908031928v15a76d15g5599e6f3fef936e1@mail.gmail.com> <20090804075221.GA3909@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090804081841.GC74277@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4A77F20F.5060500@boosten.org> <64c038660908040936m7872c211y2897990508ee8316@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660908040938m6b195216kb18edc17add0e5ba@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660908040939o349b7b16o6659d5f5f2eb65fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090806100209.GA42719@phenom.cordula.ws> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:39:38AM -0600, Modulok wrote: > But I'm also looking for a good way to generate high quality crypto > keys. In the later case, the data being protected are disk images of > clients...mountains of sensitive data. These will be on USB > keys, and thus do not need to be memorized. Assuming my clients are > not enemies of a state, /dev/random should be a sufficient source for > this purpose, correct? i.e: > > dd if=/dev/random of=foo.key bs=256 count=1 It should be "good enough"... but you need to do so reading on non-linear key spaces first. Depending on the symmetric cipher, not all keys are equally strong; and if you're unlucky, you may catch one of those "bad keys" through /dev/random. However, this is a fairly advanced crypto topic. > Thanks guys! > -Modulok- -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From ertr1013 at student.uu.se Thu Aug 6 11:07:21 2009 From: ertr1013 at student.uu.se (Erik Trulsson) Date: Thu Aug 6 11:07:29 2009 Subject: kernel designations terminology confusion -- amd64 used for into quad core In-Reply-To: <200908061718.10505.erich@apsara.com.sg> References: <200908051414.49468.david@vizion2000.net> <200908061631.04639.erich@apsara.com.sg> <4A7A9709.9070803@mapper.nl> <200908061718.10505.erich@apsara.com.sg> Message-ID: <20090806110712.GA5475@owl.midgard.homeip.net> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 05:18:09PM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On 06 August 2009 pm 16:40:41 Mark Stapper wrote: > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > IA 64? Wans't this once - or still is - the term used for the > > > Itanium? > > > > The one that didn't stick... indeed. > > do they really sell machines with this CPU in numbers? Yes, but not very large numbers - especially not compared to x86 machines. According to some estimates quoted in the Wikipedia article on Itanium, Intel manufactures around 200,000 Itanium CPUs per year, which translates to a far smaller number of machines since most of them are multi-CPU systems. By far the largest seller of Itanium-based systems is HP (which also partnered with Intel in creating the IA64 architecture in the first place.) > > I have not seen one in the wild. Not surprising since the Itanium is mainly used in the kind of high-end server systems that us ordinary people rarely see and certainly can't afford to buy. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From nealhogan at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 11:35:57 2009 From: nealhogan at gmail.com (Neal Hogan) Date: Thu Aug 6 11:36:04 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) In-Reply-To: <200908060956.59358.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> <200908060956.59358.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: >> >> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement >> in the FreeBSD corner. >> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use >> FreeBSD. > [snip] >> To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: >> 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) >> 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. >> And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the >> user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. > > This is what a couple of projects are already doing. PC-BSD springs to mind - > I can't remember what the other one is called. DesktopBSD > > PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own simplified > package manager. > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From nealhogan at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 11:41:13 2009 From: nealhogan at gmail.com (Neal Hogan) Date: Thu Aug 6 11:41:20 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) In-Reply-To: <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> Message-ID: > In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement > in the FreeBSD corner. > What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use > FreeBSD. > I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home > on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user should. > The problem herein, i am afraid, lies not with FreeBSD(or any other BSD > flavour), nor with it's community, but with the computer user. > Most computer users see an operating system(and the application they run > most) as part of a computer. > How many people say "My computer is broken" when ?$ Office doesn't start > anymore. > They don't care about which kernel they run, or which browser they use, > they care about typing e-mail, chatting and watching youtube video's. > (However sad it makes me that most people use less then 10% of the > features/programs/potential/computing-power the computer came with, they > do make sure we pay less for our components.) > Even though I'd feel less "cool" or "nerdy" (which is basically the same > thing ;-) ) if I'd run(or USE) the same OS as my 76 year old > grandfather, it would be nice for him to be able to buy a computer for > $20 less because it runs FreeBSD. > To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: > 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) > 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. > And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the > user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. > Since most people never reinstall their computer, making it easier to > install a basic desktop system won't help my 76 year old grandpa, but it > will make it easier for unsatisfied Windows users to try FreeBSD. > Besides, in making it easy to install a basic desktop system, comes the > hardest part of any *nix like system: defining a basic desktop and > collecting the basic/standard applications. > It's hard just to pick either one Gnome, KDE or XFCE (or iceWM ;-) ) let > alone mail-clients, internet browsers, IM, etc. etc. > One of the advantages of using a descent operating system is the freedom > of choice. However most users don't care! > I am more then happy to tel anyone which e-mail client not to use (Lotus > notes, outlook express, anyone else's neck hears standing up?), but I > don't want to tell people they HAVE to use Thunderbird(I do tell them > they SHOULD but that's different) or evolution etc. > The problem is, most people don't want to make this choice either. > And the circle of life continues. > So basically, to make sure people will be using freeBSD (or any *nix > operating system) it needs to be easy to install (So that > PC-manufacturers will ship their pc's with it), a nicely filled standard > desktop environment with lot's of youtube/chat/word process capabilities > and "I won't bother you with it but i'm updating" functionality. > Just some thoughts.. > I'll get back to work now... > ... I must say that I find this (new) thread a bit funny since it was inspired by a guy (the OP) who has been using fBSD for many years (over 5 . . . I can't remember the exact number). > > > From ibb_orac at mbox.contact.bg Thu Aug 6 13:08:33 2009 From: ibb_orac at mbox.contact.bg (Ivailo Bonev) Date: Thu Aug 6 13:08:41 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2overwrites partitions) References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> <200908060956.59358.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> Message-ID: <69A1ABAF9CD44B399B6773FF6EC580AF@chameleon> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Hogan" To: "Jonathan McKeown" Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2overwrites partitions) > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Jonathan McKeown > wrote: >> On Thursday 06 August 2009 09:43:47 Mark Stapper wrote: >>> >>> In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement >>> in the FreeBSD corner. >>> What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use >>> FreeBSD. >> [snip] >>> To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: >>> 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) >>> 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. >>> And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the >>> user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. >> >> This is what a couple of projects are already doing. PC-BSD springs to >> mind - >> I can't remember what the other one is called. > > DesktopBSD DesktopBSD Project is dead for now... >> PC-BSD is FreeBSD, pre-packaged with a usable desktop and its own >> simplified >> package manager. >> >> Jonathan >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From patfbsd at davenulle.org Thu Aug 6 14:05:10 2009 From: patfbsd at davenulle.org (Patrick Lamaiziere) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:05:18 2009 Subject: ftps ? In-Reply-To: <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030434p5877e2bm78db504cd06bde09@mail.gmail.com> <4A76CE91.3000506@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090806160526.0a6be582@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> Le Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:02:58 +0300, Odhiambo ????? a ?crit : > > # grep ftps /etc/services > > ftps-data 989/tcp # ftp protocol, data, over TLS/SSL > > ftps-data 989/udp > > ftps 990/tcp # ftp protocol, control, over TLS/SSL > > ftps 990/udp > > > > pure-ftpd supports TLS/SSL. > > I am wondering if it can do this. I just tried with pure-ftpd, TLS works but it's not ftps (there is a negociation like SMTP/IMAP with START TLS i think). I want to keep the old ftp too. The good thing is that works out of the box with lftp, it picks up TLS. Regards. From roberthuff at rcn.com Thu Aug 6 14:20:09 2009 From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:20:15 2009 Subject: amd64 native ports? Message-ID: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I can't find it by hand. Anyone have the URL handy? Respectfully, Robert Huff From lists at jnielsen.net Thu Aug 6 14:34:01 2009 From: lists at jnielsen.net (John Nielsen) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:34:08 2009 Subject: amd64 native ports? In-Reply-To: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> References: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> Message-ID: <200908061033.52081.lists@jnielsen.net> On Thursday 06 August 2009 10:19:47 Robert Huff wrote: > Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run > natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, > I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I > can't find it by hand. Anyone have the URL handy? There's always the build logs on pointyhat: http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ And some reports here: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/index.html Not sure which of those is exactly what you're looking for though. HTH, JN From rsmith at xs4all.nl Thu Aug 6 14:46:36 2009 From: rsmith at xs4all.nl (Roland Smith) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:47:32 2009 Subject: amd64 native ports? In-Reply-To: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> References: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> Message-ID: <20090806144633.GA82422@slackbox.xs4all.nl> On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:19:47AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > Somewhere in *.freebsd.org is a page that lists which ports run > natively on amd64 and what the status is for the others. I've seen it, > I have it bookmarked in a place that is currently unavailable, and I > can't find it by hand. Anyone have the URL handy? This will show you the ports marked IGNORE: http://www.freshports.org/ports-ignore.php This will detect and use your browsers architecture to find ports you cannot use. Mind you, it can be IGNOREd for other reasons than your current architecture) I tend to look at ONLY_FOR ARCHS statements in port makefiles: find /usr/ports/ -type f -name Makefile -exec grep -H 'ONLY_FOR_ARCHS' {} \; Any port that doesn't have one of those should run on every architecture. But I doubt is this info is complete for rare architectures as ia64 or sparc. It should be OK for amd64, because that's relatively common. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20090806/cb8f0746/attachment.pgp From mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Thu Aug 6 14:50:05 2009 From: mcoyles at horbury.wakefield.sch.uk (Marc Coyles) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:50:12 2009 Subject: Freebsd-update fetch failed... In-Reply-To: <20090806160526.0a6be582@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> References: <4A76C9CF.5050100@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030434p5877e2bm78db504cd06bde09@mail.gmail.com> <4A76CE91.3000506@isafeelin.org> <991123400908030502w1e4a16q600360f2c1c97adb@mail.gmail.com> <20090806160526.0a6be582@baby-jane.lamaiziere.net> Message-ID: <004e01ca16a2$0b659480$2230bd80$@wakefield.sch.uk> Evening folks... have just built up a new 7.0-RELEASE box, and have gone to update it to 7.0-RELEASEp11, however, whenever I run freebsd-update fetch I get the following: bigsis2# freebsd-update fetch Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Fetching 2 metadata files... failed. Have tried using update., update1., and update2., but no joy on any of them. Any ideas? The box talks fine to the net, everything else on it is hunkydorey, so I'm assuming the error isn't at my end... and before anyone asks, I'm stuck with 7.0-RELEASE thanks to cPanel not supporting anything more current than that at the moment (boo hiss). My other option is to grab the contents of /var/db/freebsd-update/ off my other server, copy over to this new box, and run 'freebsd-update install' and see if it then realises that it has the files and gets on with it... Any better suggestions? Marc A Coyles - Horbury School ICT Support Team Mbl: 07850 518106 Land: 01924 282740 ext 730 Helpdesk: 01924 282740 ext 2000 From freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk Thu Aug 6 14:54:54 2009 From: freebsd-questions at k-moeller.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kalle_M=F8ller?=) Date: Thu Aug 6 14:55:00 2009 Subject: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ? In-Reply-To: <200908051048.03079.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <8250ac3f0908051135g282fabb1m4009077010a6fd72@mail.gmail.com> <200908051048.03079.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Message-ID: <8250ac3f0908060754u714379dw51948c0ac858a8da@mail.gmail.com> Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with plist ... Except it seemd to be a list of the files used ?? On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Mel Flynn < mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net > wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 10:35:02 Kalle M?ller wrote: > > > make WITH_PERL="YES" > > > > But it returns that it is broken ? > > > > flowd-0.9.1_1 is marked as broken: Incomplete pkg-plist. > > > > Without perl it installs fine. The problem is that I need the perl part > to > > get some of the other tools to work :S > > > > Anything I can do to get this not broken ... > > You could fix the plist and ping the maintainer (added to CC). > -- > Mel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Med Venlig Hilsen Kalle R. M?ller From modulok at gmail.com Thu Aug 6 16:07:09 2009 From: modulok at gmail.com (Modulok) Date: Thu Aug 6 16:07:15 2009 Subject: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2 overwrites partitions) In-Reply-To: <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> References: <4A76FB32.9050601@videotron.ca> <20090803215319.8fad2441.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A798DF2.3020305@videotron.ca> <200908051651.53302.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20090805203337.c6f74172.freebsd@edvax.de> <4A7A89B3.6010206@mapper.nl> Message-ID: <64c038660908060907r31e886n904a56eb2e14c38a@mail.gmail.com> [snip] > In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a "Ubuntu" like movement > in the FreeBSD corner. > What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use > FreeBSD. > I am not saying that a Windows user should be able to feel right at home > on a box running FreeBSD, but a computer user should. > The problem herein, i am afraid, lies not with FreeBSD(or any other BSD > flavour), nor with it's community, but with the computer user. > Most computer users see an operating system(and the application they run > most) as part of a computer. > How many people say "My computer is broken" when ?$ Office doesn't start > anymore. > They don't care about which kernel they run, or which browser they use, > they care about typing e-mail, chatting and watching youtube video's. > (However sad it makes me that most people use less then 10% of the > features/programs/potential/computing-power the computer came with, they > do make sure we pay less for our components.) > Even though I'd feel less "cool" or "nerdy" (which is basically the same > thing ;-) ) if I'd run(or USE) the same OS as my 76 year old > grandfather, it would be nice for him to be able to buy a computer for > $20 less because it runs FreeBSD. > To achieve this, there are two things that should be made easier: > 1. Installing a basic desktop system(next to any currently installed OS) > 2. Keeping the base system and ports up to date. > And when I mean "easier" I mean it should be done without bothering the > user unless you about to "rm -rf /" as root, so to say. > Since most people never reinstall their computer, making it easier to > install a basic desktop system won't help my 76 year old grandpa, but it > will make it easier for unsatisfied Windows users to try FreeBSD. > Besides, in making it easy to install a basic desktop system, comes the > hardest part of any *nix like system: defining a basic desktop and > collecting the basic/standard applications. > It's hard just to pick either one Gnome, KDE or XFCE (or iceWM ;-) ) let > alone mail-clients, internet browsers, IM, etc. etc. > One of the advantages of using a descent operating system is the freedom > of choice. However most users don't care! > I am more then happy to tel anyone which e-mail client not to use (Lotus > notes, outlook express, anyone else's neck hears standing up?), but I > don't want to tell people they HAVE to use Thunderbird(I do tell them > they SHOULD but that's different) or evolution etc. > The problem is, most people don't want to make this choice either. > And the circle of life continues. > So basically, to make sure people will be using freeBSD (or any *nix > operating system) it needs to be easy to install (So that > PC-manufacturers will ship their pc's with it), a nicely filled standard > desktop environment with lot's of youtube/chat/word process capabilities > and "I won't bother you with it but i'm updating" functionality. [/snip] What you're talking about is indeed needed and does, to an extent, exist; It's called PC-BSD, Ubuntu (as you mentioned) or even Microsoft Windows. I think it's great that such things exist. (Yes, even Windows.) I think it's great that they can help people, who would otherwise be helpless, use a computer to get their work done. I even applaud the efforts of the tyrannical Microsoft for largely accomplishing this feat. Hats off to all involved! But it doesn't end here... On the other end of the coin there is also a need for an operating system which does exactly what I, the user, commands it to do, regardless of what that could mean. For some things, I need a system which trusts me, the user, to make the right decisions. Knowing this, I must be willing to accept the consequences of my actions, should my choices prove to be incorrect. "If you prevent stupid people from doing stupid things, you prevent clever people from doing clever things." While one cannot throw any philosophy, in a blind fashion, at a given problem, there is some truth to the statement. Both types of systems are needed, and I sincerely hope that both continue to exist. -Modulok- From mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net Thu Aug 6 16:17:32 2009 From: mel.flynn+fbsd.questions at mailing.thruhere.net (Mel Flynn) Date: Thu Aug 6 16:17:43 2009 Subject: eclipse install (SOLVED broken ports tree) In-Reply-To: <1249546053.4568.6.camel@penguin.coert.local> References: <1249506008.4520.5.camel@penguin.coert.local> <1249542509.4568.3.camel@penguin.coert.local> <1249546053.4568.6.camel@penguin.coert.local> Message-ID: <200908060817.29802.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> On Thursday 06 August 2009 00:07:33 Coert Waagmeester wrote: > I have PKGDIR variable exported. Ack, yeah. Should've thought of that. It's a badly chosen variable name for pkg_add. You could make an alias though: alias pkg_keep='env PKGDIR=/path/to/whatever pkg_add -K' -- Mel From roberthuff at rcn.com Thu Aug 6 16:50:01 2009 From: roberthuff at rcn.com (Robert Huff) Date: Thu Aug 6 16:50:09 2009 Subject: amd64 native ports? In-Reply-To: <200908061033.52081.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <4A7AE683.901@rcn.com> <200908061033.52081.lists@jnielsen.net> Message-ID: <4A7B09B7.2000704@rcn.com> John Nielsen wrote: > There's always the build logs on pointyhat: > http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/ > > And some reports here: > http://portsmon.freebsd.org/index.html These are not the droids I'm looking for. As I remember the page, it has three columns: the port name, the (color-coded) status, and a description of work needed. (There might be another column with relevant PRs or something.). Robert Huff From jalmberg at identry.com Thu Aug 6 17:38:12 2009 From: jalmberg at identry.com (Identry) Date: Thu Aug 6 17:38:19 2009 Subject: Boot failure Message-ID: <4d4e09680908061012q6ea8aeacm875c556eaea7a54f@mail.gmail.com> Well, the bad day has come... My primary server won't boot. I have backups of databases and user directories, but I need to try to get this server back up again. During the boot sequence, it freezes at the statement: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mfid0s1a I tried booting into single user mode, but same issue (of course). I don't want to just start hacking at this for fear of making things work... what is my best, most conservative next step? -- John From vince at unsane.co.uk Thu Aug 6 17:45:03 2009 From: vince at unsane.co.uk (Vincent Hoffman) Date: Thu Aug 6 17:45:36 2009 Subject: net-mgmt/flowd - broken ? In-Reply-To: <8250ac3f0908060754u714379dw51948c0ac858a8da@mail.gmail.com> References: <8250ac3f0908051135g282fabb1m4009077010a6fd72@mail.gmail.com> <200908051048.03079.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <8250ac3f0908060754u714379dw51948c0ac858a8da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A7B168C.5090900@unsane.co.uk> Kalle M?ller wrote: > Damn have no clue how to build fix or anything with plist ... Except it > seemd to be a list of the files used ?? Pretty much, the porters handbook has a decent section on it if your interested. Any installed files except man pages and documentation (which are specified in the makefile) should be listed as far as i can tell. Have a read at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/porting-desc.html#AEN100 and http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/plist.html I think this is a simple one, if no one else does then I'll try and look at it tomorrow. my guess is that %%WITH_PERL%%@dirrm %%SITE_PERL%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto should be %%WITH_PERL%%@dirrmtry %%SITE_PERL%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto and possibly lib/perl5/5.8.9/mach/perllocal.pod (or the appropriate variables in place of a static path) need to be added. Vince > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Mel Flynn < > mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net