Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.

Jerry McAllister jerrymc at msu.edu
Thu May 29 20:26:44 UTC 2008


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

> On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <kline at thought.org> wrote:
> > >        Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> > >        was so hard to read.  She said that part of my text was black
> > >        on the deep-blue bg on my RHS.  I stopped and checked with
> > >        firefox; things looked fine.  I've done all markup by hand since
> > >        '94, very carefully, with only browsers in the ports tree--
> > >        mozilla, firefox, a couple others.
> > >
> > >        About a week ago I viewed my homepage with KDE Konq and almost
> > >        flipped out.  One "free" commercial historical calender event
> > >        feature was glued to the bottom of my blue bar (<TABLE></TABLE>)
> > >        on the RHS of the page.   And yep, the new text and other things
> > >        were centered in the middle of the long blue rectangle.
> > >
> > >        Since I have a few weeks now to work on things beside research,
> > >        it's time to update my main web page.   My friend was using IE;
> > >        it may be that Konqueror uses a similar parser to position
> > >        things on a .php or .html page.
> > >
> > >        Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly
> > >        what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any
> > >        other ideas?  I've never learned an HTML editors because of the
> > >        learning curve.  But:: if/when I come up with a better design for
> > >        my home page, I'm willing to try again:: any best (simple) HTML
> > >        editors in ports?
> > >
> > >        I'd be much obliged for any help here.
> > >
> > >        gary
> > >
> > > --
> > >  Gary Kline  kline at thought.org   www.thought.org  Public Service Unix
> > >        http://jottings.thought.org   http://transfinite.thought.org
> > >
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> > I say keep using the technique you're using now. That's what I'd do.
> > Instead of finding a HTML Editor
> > just find a simple text editor and write all your HTML in a clean manner.
> >
> > I don't know where Ted got his statistics from, but most people I know use
> > simple text editors for writing their HTML, CSS
> > and JavaScript. Personally I stick to vi or diakonos on BSD and Notepad2 on
> > Windows.
> >
> /*
>  * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and theads is 
>  * different from kmail.  I only use a GUI when there is a URL embedded, but
>  * it must be down-queue.   ....
>  */
> 
> I would *rather* use vi and HTML-by-hand.   And produce very simple, readable,  
> uncluttered pages.  I don't use many graphics, e.g., I use the strength of 
> HTML, php, blah ** 3.  
> 
> I'm ready to learn this "CMS" that Ted mentioned if I knew what it was!  And 
> if its in ports.   AFAIK, the only pages that look bizarre are my 
> initial "www" (and one other based on it).   I'll google around to find out 
> what CMS is...   

We are initial buried.   CMS can mean many things, but in this
case it probably mean either Content Management System or 
possibly Change Management System.   Both are common uses.

If you are happy editing your HTML files and doing your own CSS,
then you don't need it at all.

That web verification site might be an interesting thing to
try now and then, though.
////jerry


> 
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