I realize this may have no easy answer, but suddenly, after a portupgrade -aP. I have no sound. catting /deev/snstat does tell me that my sound card is there. my volme is set to 100%. Where else shoulf I be looking. gary -- Gary Kline kline at thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org