this probably is irrelevant to 90% of the list, but it's got me wondering. can anybody 'splain what kind of SCSI device xpt0 is? Is there a /dev/xpt1 if you're running a second optical drive/ thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline at thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org