Getting started with FreeBSD
keramida at freebsd.org
Wed Oct 11 11:07:48 PDT 2006
On 2006-10-11 08:45, cothrige <cothrige at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> * Tore Lund (toreld at netscape.net) wrote:
> > I wondered about the same thing some time ago. I was told by one of the
> > gurus to try packages-6-stable, which would most likely work with
> > 6.1-RELEASE. So I tried to fetch the latest Firefox in this way:
> > pkg_add [no line break]
> > ftp://ftp.<mirror>.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-22.214.171.124,1.tbz
> Doesn't this seem a tad clunky and unfinished? I am still having a
> bit of trouble figuring out what I am overlooking. Why would a fully
> binary installed OS offer no binary support for updates at all?
Oh but we do. Just have a look at "freebsd-update", "portsnap" and
> Why have a nice secure RELEASE edition when once installed it will
> naturally develop security holes that are very hard to find and fix?
Because in FreeBSD we don't install a system that fires up the kitchen
sink, the hairdresser and a few local classical orchestras, when it
starts. You know the feeling... I mean, after all, you are a
_Slackware_ user, right? :)
Security updates can be fetched pretty fast with `freebsd-update' and
they don't always affect you. So, if there's no need to upgrade to the
latest and greatest release of all the other things, why do it for your
> One of the things I don't get is the stable vs. release concept.
> There is basically nothing said to address this.
Heh! You areally _are_ a new FreeBSD user, after all. This is,
typically, the first question one asks after the first "Oh! Ah! Wow!
You mean it does... Awesome!" parts:
``What is "STABLE", "CURRENT" and what do I do with them?''
The answer is in the Handbook
( here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html )
> I can imagine that the packages in packages-6.1-release are fixed and
> static, though it surprises me that no security fixes are placed
> there, but what about packages-6-stable? These seem quite new,
> comparitively, and so I would assume that they are not static as
> release are. And if they are in fact tracked and improved, how can
> they be accessed via the tools?
Try reading the manpages of the pkg_xxx tools:
% man pkg_add
In FreeBSD, the manpages are _really_ informative and we try to keep
them up to date. Learn to search through them, with apropos(1), to read
them carefully and you'll find a huge wealth of information. No Linux
distrubition has *EVER* convinced me that they value their manpage
documentation as much as the FreeBSD people do.
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