List Protocol

Garrett Cooper youshi10 at u.washington.edu
Tue Dec 12 19:59:05 PST 2006


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Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 12 December 2006 at 19:47:52 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 12 December 2006 at 16:49:39 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>> Until then STFU you ungrateful bastards.  All you once were dumb
>>>> newbies who didn't know FreeBSD from free beer, and I'll bet more
>>>> than a few of you sent e-mail to questions, thinking it was an
>>>> actual person who gave a damn.  Boy were you surprised!
>>> Ted, there are other aspects of the list protocol.  One has to do with
>>> message format.  You seem to have great difficulty with this one,
>>> requiring other people to manually reformat, and often to guess what
>>> you're talking about.
>>>
>>> Another has to do with politeness.  You seem to abuse this one again
>>> and again; it's one of the reasons why I seldom read this mailing list
>>> any more.  You've probably driven off a number of people who would be
>>> able to give *helpful* answers.  Please stop.
>>>
>>> Greg
>> Wayne, et. all,
>> 	There's an obvious reason why the mailing list is open to all,
>> so instead of conjecturing on why it's the way it is, we should just
>> accept the way it is and leave things like that?
> 
> You sent this only to me, at least according to the headers.  Did
> Wayne get it?
> 
>> Greg,
>> 	I do empathize with what you said in the past, in regard to what
>> I wrote. I've come across many cases in the past where I couldn't solve
>> what I needed to get solved by using Google, so I've turned to
>> knowledgeable people on the list to help solve my problems,
>> respectfully, cause I know that my knowledge or time was limited.
>> 	I just was trying to emphasize the fact that I wanted to teach
>> others how to fish, instead of just providing them with the fish, so as
>> to speak, as the proverb goes. That way they would strengthen their
>> knowledge, as well as benefit the community with their experience. Many
>> times people have asked similar questions, which can be solved more
>> quickly by doing a little bit of research on their topic of question.
>> 	I'm not trying to say that my way is right and that it should
>> always be done. It's just a means to discovering the truth or solving a
>> problem, one of the frustrating and challenging things about life. To
>> each and her's their own, but I'm just trying to provide a solution that
>> works for me in the hope that the reader will be able to solve their
>> problem :).
> 
> I don't have a problem with what you have written (or at least, I
> can't recall any such problem :-).  I was talking to Ted, who can be
> quite obnoxious at times.
> 
> FWIW, I tend to agree with what you say, though that doesn't mean I
> won't disagree on a detail at a later date.
> 
> Greg
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Understood. I hate it when I reply to the wrong person =\.. Sorry for
the extra email and take care!
- -Garrett
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