php extensions compile error - another compile bug?
vizion at vizion.occoxmail.com
Sun Sep 11 07:54:39 PDT 2005
On Sunday 11 September 2005 01:27, the author Alex Dupre contributed to the
Re: php extensions compile error - another compile bug?:
>> Getting near the end and I get this:
>> I do not know whether you have time to look at this one or not?
>I have no time to look at this because you are spamming my and other
>email addresses and mailing lists with dozen of messages.
Seeing as I am in the process of trying to build a resource to help victims of
the Katrina disaster your tone of correspondence, and speed of engagement,
has the unfortunate effect of reminding me about FEMA.
There are two bugs in the makefile and one other issue that causes problems,
so it is not surprising that some degree of traffic was generated.
Seeing as the two bugs appear to be in your php Makefile and that other people
have helped me resolve them on the mailing lists, it is not surprising you
have received, not only the private email, but also the listmail which
tracked how others responded, while you sat back quietly. I even wondered
whether you were a victim of Katrina and were therefore unable to function
for that reason.
My concern was exacerbated because you did even getting to the point of
acknowledging the early private email carrying the detailed report that your
Makefile requested be sent to you.
When one is trying, against a background of some urgency, to solve bugs, and
there is no feed back from the first responder, then those who are
resourceful turn to the appropriate mailing lists.
In the circumstances, I make no apology for using the resources appropriately,
and I am glad to hear, in the end, you do, with some reluctance, read your
No doubt you saw how Kris Kennaway <kris at obsecurity.org> not only helped solve
the first bug but also prior to doing so, had incorrectly assumed, in the
absense of a posting of the full report to the mailing list, that I had
failed to follow those instructions. After receiving a copy of the report via
the mailing list, he was able to identify a solution to the bug, which you
will no doubt implement in your next revision. I hope you thank Kris for his
gentle thoughtfulness in responding to the problem when you were not
>All your questions are FAQ.
Since when are bugs FAQ'd?
If so what FAQ?
Since when did you spend time writing an FAQ about two bugs rather than fixing
>Search for information on the web and then
>contact me privately with *one* message before crossposting FreeBSD
>specific questions to PHP mailing lists.
Your comment is far from clear but I guess here you are referring to the third
The third issue (the way Make deals with --disable-all turned out to be far
more complicated than my first brief question raised on FreeBSD-questions
mail list a number of days ago and cc'd to you. You refer to an FAQ which
presumably mentions this issue.
What FAQ is that?
Why was that FAQ not referred to in the distribution or at the very least some
information given about --disable-all included in the distribution (or even a
comment in the Makefile).
Searching on the internet during the course of overfull working two days did
not turn up anything until I found, late yesterday evening froma posting on
an obscure forum, that the third bug was, in fact indirectly caused by the
--disable-all "feature of the freebsd ports makefile.
Overall I take what is, so far, your first and only response, to these two
Makefile bugs and one --disable-all as an acknowledgement that you were not
able to respond as quickly as you would ordinarily have wished. But as you
are a volunteer I did not feel you had any obligation to respond quickly, so
there are no hard feelings on my part.
If you feel like upset by the amount of traffic that you receive then you
might consider dropping some of the mail lits to which you subscribe, and use
the time you save to at least acknowledge requested bug reports and other
emails sent directly to you. In which case you would have had no reason to
have complained about the traffic and I might have had some chance of getting
a genuine and thoughtful response from you.
I do however take exception to your lack of concern about the implications of
bugs in your Makefile and the content of your response which appears
intended to draw attention away from the actual problem.
Thanks for geting back to me
Have a good day
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