freebsd reseller

Christopher Cox nuopus at gmail.com
Mon May 16 22:32:18 PDT 2005


I assume you are asking the question in the same sense that Microsoft has 
2000 for workstations and 2000 Server for servers. FreeBSD does not have a 
separate workstatio and server software ... it is all in the way you 
configure it and what software you have installed.

That being said, there are multiple versions of BSD. FreeBSD and OpenBSD. 
OpenBSD focusses more on security, but both can be run as a server or 
workstation.

Linux is the same way. For example, although Ubuntu Linux is geared for the 
desktop user, you can always install all of the necessary software to turn 
it into a server and remove all of the user end stuff.

Selling a seperate workstation and server is just a way for companies like 
microsoft to make extra money on their software.

On 5/16/05, netroot at everyday.com.kh <netroot at everyday.com.kh> wrote:
> 
> i wanna run hosting company with freebsd server where can i find it?
> 
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> > 1. php/apache/ssl core dumps (Ruben Bloemgarten)
> > 2. Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > (greg at grokking.org)
> > 3. tetex, latex, dvips (Florian Hengstberger)
> > 4. Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > (greg at grokking.org)
> > 5. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Roland Smith)
> > 6. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Florian Hengstberger)
> > 7. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 8. Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 9. Re: tetex, latex, dvips (Roland Smith)
> > 10. Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer (Chris Hodgins)
> > 11. Re: daily log reports (Danny Howard)
> > 12. Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd partition on an
> > external usbdrive (Lowell Gilbert)
> > 13. Re: make depend error in kernel config (Warren)
> > 14. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (RW)
> > 15. volume problems with snd_via8233 (vaida bogdan)
> > 16. AVerMedia AVerTV GO 007 FM Plus card not detected (vaida bogdan)
> > 17. Re: IPSec and Racoon between 5.4 and 4.11 (Mike Tancsa)
> > 18. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (Joel)
> > 19. Re: silencing the boot beep (Eric Schuele)
> > 20. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > (wmc2004aug at bellsouth.net)
> > 21. (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive (Steve)
> > 22. (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive (Steve)
> > 23. Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Rob)
> > 24. Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX) (Joel)
> > 25. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Olivier Nicole)
> > 26. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Rob)
> > 27. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Joel)
> > 28. Re: running FreeBSD 4.11 or 5.4 on a SBC (Joel)
> > 29. dual-homed gateway: polling & no-polling LANs combined. OK? (Rob)
> > 30. Re: How to use snapshots (Joel)
> > 31. Re: is this a possible DoS attack? (Joel)
> > 32. changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc. (Bagus)
> > 33. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Olivier Nicole)
> > 34. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> > 35. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> > 36. The availability of socketbits.h? (Xu Qiang)
> > 37. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Foo Ji-Haw)
> > 38. Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How? (Ed Stover)
> > 39. Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > (Jos? de Paula Rodrigues)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:55:44 +0200
> > From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" <ruben at bloemgarten.demon.nl>
> > Subject: php/apache/ssl core dumps
> > To: <freebsd-questions at FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Message-ID: <20050516205530.117E343D9E at mx1.FreeBSD.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to get Apache to work with both ssl and php. However, when 
> ssl
> > apache and php are installed and the php module is set to be loaded into
> > apache, apache core dumps (11). I'm using the latest ports tree. Also 
> I've
> > tried any number of combinations of mod_php, php-extensions,
> > apache13-mod_ssl, apache13-ssl, apache then openssl etc etc. This 
> problem
> > has been discussed before but none of the solutions seem to be working.
> > Could anyone help ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:55:55 -0700
> > From: "greg at grokking.org" <greg at grokking.org>
> > Subject: Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <428908DB.4090606 at grokking.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Bill Paul wrote:
> > > Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next
> > > five minutes and READ THIS!!
> > >
> > > You see that header on this e-mail? You see the "From:" line? Go and
> > > read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself, out loud.
> > >
> > > No no, go back and do it again.
> > >
> > > Again!
> > >
> > > You see what is says? It says "Bill Paul." It does 
> *********NOT*********
> > > say "Paul Bill," does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?!
> > >
> > > No, it damn well doesn't! And yet, for some incomprehensible reason.
> > > the majority of you nitwits seem to think it does!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Get this through your miserable little heads: my first name is BILL!!!
> > > Understand that? Bill! BEE EYE ELL ELL!!!
> > >
> > > ____ _____ _ _ _ _
> > > | _ \ |_ _| | | | | | | | |
> > > | |_) | | | | | | | | | | |
> > > | _ < | | | | | | | | | |
> > > | |_) | _| |_ | |____ | |____ |_| |_|
> > > |____/ |_____| |______| |______| (_) (_)
> > >
> > >
> > > I can carve it into your skull with a rusty railroad spike if that
> > > would make it easier to remember!
> > >
> > > Do **************NOT*************** send me e-mails opening with
> > > "Dear Paul!" That is _NOT_ my name! I don't care if you don't speak
> > > english as a first language, are distracted, tired, confused, retarded
> > > or the President of the United States: if you can't manage to scrape
> > > together enough neurons to correctly choose which one of two lousy
> > > syllables to use when addressing me, then I would rather never hear
> > > from you at all!!!!!!
> > >
> > > I am not kidding around here! I've been beating my brains out for
> > > you rotten bastards for ten lousy years, and after all that time
> > > I expect you to at least do me the courtesty of GETTING MY STUPID
> > > NAME RIGHT!!!!!
> > >
> > > This crap has been going on for years. It ends now. Anybody who's
> > > dumb enough to send me an e-mail addressed to "Paul" instead of "Bill"
> > > will be permanently banned from my inbox. I don't care if you're on
> > > fire and need me to put you out: you will become persona non grata
> > > and you will stay that way. Furthermore, anybody who screws up and
> > > gets my name wrong in person will quickly find themselves beaten,
> > > ground into a fine powder and sprinkled over Richard Stallman's
> > > oatmeal!!!
> > >
> > > And no, I don't want to hear your lousy comments on the matter!
> > > Don't follow up!! Don't reply!! Just nod quietly and DON'T MAKE THIS
> > > MISTAKE AGAIN!!!!
> > >
> > > -Bill <------------ SEE!!! LOOK!!! IT'S RIGHT THERE!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!
> > >
> >
> >
> > So...Paul...did you have a question regarding FreeBSD? :)
> > [ducks and runs for cover]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:11:22 +0200
> > From: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Subject: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <iglpiy.orf7m0 at webmail.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > message:
> >
> > ===> Installing for dvips-5.76
> >
> > ===> dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s):
> > teTeX-base-2.0.2_2
> > teTeX-texmf-2.0.2
> >
> > They install files into the same place.
> > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/print/dvips.
> >
> > How can a tex distribution conflict with and dvi to ps
> > converter???
> > Am I doing something completly wrong?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Florian
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:20:51 -0700
> > From: "greg at grokking.org" <greg at grokking.org>
> > Subject: Re: Alright you primitive screwheads, LISTEN UP!!
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <42890EB3.7080500 at grokking.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > greg at grokking.org wrote:
> > > Bill Paul wrote:
> > >
> > >>Ok everyone, PAY ATTENTION! Drop whatevery your doing for the next
> > >>five minutes and READ THIS!!
> > >>
> > >>You see that header on this e-mail? You see the "From:" line? Go and
> > >>read it to yourself. Read the name. Say it to yourself, out loud.
> > >>
> > >>No no, go back and do it again.
> > >>
> > >>Again!
> > >>
> > >>You see what is says? It says "Bill Paul." It does 
> *********NOT*********
> > >>say "Paul Bill," does it now. WELL DOES IT!!?!?!
> > >>
> > >>No, it damn well doesn't! And yet, for some incomprehensible reason.
> > >>the majority of you nitwits seem to think it does!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>Get this through your miserable little heads: my first name is BILL!!!
> > >>Understand that? Bill! BEE EYE ELL ELL!!!
> > >>
> > >> ____ _____ _ _ _ _
> > >> | _ \ |_ _| | | | | | | | |
> > >> | |_) | | | | | | | | | | |
> > >> | _ < | | | | | | | | | |
> > >> | |_) | _| |_ | |____ | |____ |_| |_|
> > >> |____/ |_____| |______| |______| (_) (_)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I can carve it into your skull with a rusty railroad spike if that
> > >>would make it easier to remember!
> > >>
> > >>Do **************NOT*************** send me e-mails opening with
> > >>"Dear Paul!" That is _NOT_ my name! I don't care if you don't speak
> > >>english as a first language, are distracted, tired, confused, retarded
> > >>or the President of the United States: if you can't manage to scrape
> > >>together enough neurons to correctly choose which one of two lousy
> > >>syllables to use when addressing me, then I would rather never hear
> > >>from you at all!!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>I am not kidding around here! I've been beating my brains out for
> > >>you rotten bastards for ten lousy years, and after all that time
> > >>I expect you to at least do me the courtesty of GETTING MY STUPID
> > >>NAME RIGHT!!!!!
> > >>
> > >>This crap has been going on for years. It ends now. Anybody who's
> > >>dumb enough to send me an e-mail addressed to "Paul" instead of "Bill"
> > >>will be permanently banned from my inbox. I don't care if you're on
> > >>fire and need me to put you out: you will become persona non grata
> > >>and you will stay that way. Furthermore, anybody who screws up and
> > >>gets my name wrong in person will quickly find themselves beaten,
> > >>ground into a fine powder and sprinkled over Richard Stallman's
> > >>oatmeal!!!
> > >>
> > >>And no, I don't want to hear your lousy comments on the matter!
> > >>Don't follow up!! Don't reply!! Just nod quietly and DON'T MAKE THIS
> > >>MISTAKE AGAIN!!!!
> > >>
> > >>-Bill <------------ SEE!!! LOOK!!! IT'S RIGHT THERE!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So...Paul...did you have a question regarding FreeBSD? :)
> > > [ducks and runs for cover]
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> > Oops...sorry folks -- wrong list!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:25:44 +0200
> > From: Roland Smith <rsmith at xs4all.nl>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Cc: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Message-ID: <20050516212544.GA1539 at slackbox.xs4all.nl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > message:
> >
> > Try to get a hold of a TeXLive CD. It does not install via a port, but
> > it is the most complete TeX distribution out there. Most TUGs hand them
> > out to members for free, but I think you can also buy them, e.g. at the
> > Lehmanns bookstore.
> >
> > Roland
> > --
> > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain 
> text.
> > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:31:08 +0200
> > From: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: Roland Smith <rsmith at xs4all.nl>, "FreeBSD mailinglist"
> > <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Cc: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Message-ID: <iglqfw.solypb at webmail.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > A tex live-cd? I wonder why this should be preferable to a port.
> > Anyway what's wrong with the latex port.
> > Is this port still maintained, I've read that tetex will be the
> > standard tex port in future.
> > But how to go the standard latex, xdvi, dvips way without
> > dvips?
> > Finally what about latex3e if the've finished their work??
> >
> > Thanks Florian
> >
> >
> > Roland Smith <rsmith at xs4all.nl> schrieb:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:11:22PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> > > > Firstly I installed latex but couldnt find the koma package
> > > > but all tools (dvips, xdvi ...).
> > > > So I removed latex and installed tetex-base and tetex-texmf.
> > > > Koma works fine, but I can only produce pdf with pdflatex.
> > > > dvips is not present and xdvi tells me that there are a lot of
> > > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > > message:
> > >
> > > Try to get a hold of a TeXLive CD. It does not install via a port, but
> > > it is the most complete TeX distribution out there. Most TUGs hand 
> them
> > > out to members for free, but I think you can also buy them, e.g. at 
> the
> > > Lehmanns bookstore.
> > >
> > > Roland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: 16 May 2005 17:43:23 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Cc: FreeBSD mailinglist <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <44psvq26f8.fsf at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > "Florian Hengstberger" <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
> >
> > > Why do latex and tetex conflict?
> >
> > Because both of them try to install /usr/local/bin/latex (et. al.).
> >
> > > fonts missing! When I try to install dvips I get the following
> > > message:
> > >
> > > ===> Installing for dvips-5.76
> > >
> > > ===> dvips-5.76 conflicts with installed package(s):
> > > teTeX-base-2.0.2_2
> > > teTeX-texmf-2.0.2
> > >
> > > They install files into the same place.
> > > Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> > > *** Error code 1
> > >
> > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/dvips.
> > >
> > > How can a tex distribution conflict with and dvi to ps
> > > converter???
> >
> > Because they install files into the same place. If you're interested
> > in which ones, look at the pkg_plist files.
> >
> > Try installing print/dvipsk-tetex.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: 16 May 2005 17:49:28 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer
> > To: Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays at rogers.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <44ll6e2653.fsf at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays at rogers.com> writes:
> >
> > > I have just bought one of these printers, and am having trouble 
> getting
> > > it to work with ghostscript. It is connected via a USB port, and it
> > > responds momentarily when I send anything directly to /dev/ulpt0.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the correct parameters for ghostscript - I think it
> > > should work with device ijs and 'server' ijsgimpprint, which has been
> > > installed in /usr/local/bin.
> > >
> > > Some of the instructions recommend CUPS and FooMatic, and seem much 
> more
> > > complicated than I ought to need for a local installation.
> > >
> > > I tested the printer with Windows, and it does work.
> >
> > You haven't mentioned what kind of problems you're having.
> >
> > Personally, I use apsfilter, which I find makes life very easy...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:55:44 +0200
> > From: Roland Smith <rsmith at xs4all.nl>
> > Subject: Re: tetex, latex, dvips
> > To: Florian Hengstberger <e0025265 at student.tuwien.ac.at>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <20050516215544.GA1693 at slackbox.xs4all.nl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:31:08PM +0200, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
> > > A tex live-cd? I wonder why this should be preferable to a port.
> >
> > TeXLive is a TeX distribution that you can install. I think it also
> > includes a live-cd.
> >
> > > Anyway what's wrong with the latex port.
> >
> > TeXLive contains more packages and they are better integrated. It uses
> > Type1 or TrueType fonts for almost all font families.
> >
> > > But how to go the standard latex, xdvi, dvips way without
> > > dvips?
> >
> > Like it or not, pdf(La)TeX is more and more becoming the standard. Xpdf
> > is fine for viewing pdfs, and runs on more platforms than acrobat.
> >
> > > Finally what about latex3e if the've finished their work??
> >
> > LaTeX3 (if it is ever finished) will be integrated into the different
> > distributions. OTOH, even Leslie Lamport seems to think that LaTeX will
> > fall into disuse in about five years. The consensus seems to be that
> > ConTeXt
> > is the most modern TeX macro package.
> >
> > Roland
> > --
> > R.F.Smith (http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/) Please send e-mail as plain 
> text.
> > public key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt
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> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:02:56 +0100
> > From: Chris Hodgins <christopher.hodgins at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Epson Stylus C86 Printer
> > To: Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays at rogers.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <63c3899e050516150228922b3c at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On 5/16/05, Mike Jeays <Mike.Jeays at rogers.com> wrote:
> > > I have just bought one of these printers, and am having trouble 
> getting
> > > it to work with ghostscript. It is connected via a USB port, and it
> > > responds momentarily when I send anything directly to /dev/ulpt0.
> > >
> > > I would appreciate the correct parameters for ghostscript - I think it
> > > should work with device ijs and 'server' ijsgimpprint, which has been
> > > installed in /usr/local/bin.
> > >
> > > Some of the instructions recommend CUPS and FooMatic, and seem much 
> more
> > > complicated than I ought to need for a local installation.
> > >
> > > I tested the printer with Windows, and it does work.
> > >
> >
> > Install cups.
> > Install gimp-print with "WITH_CUPS" defined.
> > Turn on your printer and make sure the USB cable is in.
> > Start cups.
> > Browse to localhost:631 and go to the add printer section.
> > Add a USB printer and if you installed gimp-print with cups support
> > you should be able to choose the correct printer from the list.
> >
> > Happy Printing. :)
> > Chris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:09:18 -0700
> > From: Danny Howard <dannyman at toldme.com>
> > Subject: Re: daily log reports
> > To: "parachute at optonline.net" <parachute at optonline.net>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <42891A0E.4050403 at toldme.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > parachute at optonline.net wrote:
> >
> > > That is not my IP address or what is assigned, i was just using it
> > > for simplicity...
> > >
> > > How can I change the address it sends mail to? I rather change it to
> > > root at localhost instead or root at domain.tld. I can probably do that by
> > > changing /etc/aliases but it's strange since I didn't need to do this
> > > in 5.3
> >
> > Well, ahem, the default MTA is Sendmail ... so, this is kind of a
> > postfix question, yes?
> >
> > I'd say "make reinstall" Postfix and be sure you answer "yes" to the
> > mailer.conf question.
> >
> > Also, check /usr/local/etc/portfix/aliases.
> >
> > -d
> >
> > --
> > http://dannyman.toldme.com/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: 16 May 2005 19:54:41 -0400
> > From: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Subject: Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd partition on an
> > external usbdrive
> > To: "steve" <steve at digitalbluesky.net>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <44ekc6rake.fsf at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > "steve" <steve at digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> >
> > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a freebsd
> > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > >
> > 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163.ht
> > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb hard
> > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > However, when I try to:
> > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > >
> > > I get the error:
> > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > >
> > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> >
> > You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > *any* /dev/da* devices?
> >
> > What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:58:43 +1000
> > From: Warren <shinjii at virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com>
> > Subject: Re: make depend error in kernel config
> > To: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170958.44648.shinjii at virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Tue, 17 May 2005 4:55 am, you wrote:
> > > Warren <shinjii at virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> writes:
> > > > Up untill 1 week ago i have been able to compile my kernel perfectly
> > > > fine. However after running a CVSUP i am no longer able to compile 
> my
> > > > kernel and i have not changed anything it since i did it quite a few
> > > > mnths ago. I do not have sound loaded in my kernel anywhere but 
> rather
> > in
> > > > a different spot where it seems to be loading and working perfectly
> > fine.
> > > > Any assistance would be greatful.
> >
> >
> > > "make depend" on that kernel configuration works for me...
> > > Maybe you need to clean your build directory?
> >
> >
> > ironically i tried that and it didnt work, however i tried it again and 
> by
> > miracle it actually allowed me to build the kernel no errors. Thnxs for 
> the
> >
> > help.
> > --
> > Yours Sincerely
> > Shinjii
> > http://www.shinji.nq.nu
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:13:19 +0100
> > From: RW <list-freebsd-2004 at morbius.sent.com>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170113.19514.list-freebsd-2004 at morbius.sent.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Monday 16 May 2005 18:02, FreeBSD MailingLists wrote:
> > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
> > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> >
> >
> > NetBSD prioritises portability over performance, FreeBSD generally has 
> better
> >
> > application and hardware support on a smaller set of platforms, so 
> FreeBSD is
> >
> > the obvious choice.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:44:01 +0000
> > From: vaida bogdan <vaida.bogdan at gmail.com>
> > Subject: volume problems with snd_via8233
> > To: freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org, freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <12848a3b0505161744493e5343 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Hi, I've bought a new computer with an ASRock K7Upgrade-880
> > motherboard with 5.1 channels AC'97 Audio (quoting from install guide
> > and I have a problem with sound on Freebsd 5.4 with snd_via8233.
> >
> > After I load the module, the sound volume is set to max and even
> > though I can lower the sound bar (xmms) or lower the volume in
> > mplayer or even mixer, the volume doesn't change. I can only change it
> > from my audio boxes.
> >
> > I think it could be a module problem because it works ok in windows.
> >
> > # cat /dev/sndstat
> > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
> > Installed devices:
> > pcm0: <VIA VT8237> at io 0xd000 irq 22 kld snd_via8233 (5p/1r/0v
> > channels duplex default)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:45:31 +0000
> > From: vaida bogdan <vaida.bogdan at gmail.com>
> > Subject: AVerMedia AVerTV GO 007 FM Plus card not detected
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <12848a3b05051617453b2bf0a at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I used the handbook instructions:
> >
> > bktr_load="YES" to loader.conf
> > +/- hw.bt848.tuner=6 in sysctl.conf
> >
> > bktr man page tells me my tuner is supported, yet dmesg's output shows
> > only:
> >
> > bktr_mem: memory holder loaded
> >
> > I also tried compilling it in the kernel (by the manual) with no 
> success.
> >
> > This is the first time I tried using a tvtuner on fbsd so I could have
> > got smthg wrong. Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:56:47 -0400
> > From: Mike Tancsa <mike at sentex.net>
> > Subject: Re: IPSec and Racoon between 5.4 and 4.11
> > To: Daren Russell <darenr at end-design.co.uk>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <23gi81pattnnan1rlv8uc0dva1ken5r8cj at 4ax.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 12:51:50 +0100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
> > you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Has anybody got 5.4 <-> 4.11 talking in this config, or does anybody
> > >know of any pitfalls because of kernel changes?
> >
> > There should not be any issues as I have 90+ RELENG4 boxes deployed
> > talking to a 5.4 server and a dozen RELENG_5 boxes talking to 2
> > RELENG_4 servers generally with out issue. The one thing we run into
> > from time to time is the issue of net.key.prefered_oldsa=1 on
> > FAST_IPSEC on RELENG_4. But other than that, it works. What issues
> > are you running into ? Did you enable debug logging in racoon ? What
> > state do the tunnels get to ? i.e what does setkey -D show ?
> >
> > ---Mike
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
> > Providing Internet Access since 1994
> > mike at sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:36:22 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml at gmail.com>, questions
> > <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517103300.2930.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 14:03:18 -0400
> > Tomas Quintero <tomasq at gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > > On 5/16/05, FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
> > > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> > > >
> > > > I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am 
> hoping
> > > > that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
> > > > performance.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Tomoki Taniguchi
> > >
> > > Hell, put Windows NT4 on it. It's all the same. If you're not doing
> > > anything special on it, it doesn't really matter imo.
> >
> > Say what?
> >
> > NT4 for browsing the web? With known vulnerabilities and no maintenance?
> >
> > Be civil.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:38:11 -0500
> > From: Eric Schuele <e.schuele at computer.org>
> > Subject: Re: silencing the boot beep
> > To: Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local at be-well.ilk.org>
> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <42894B03.8080105 at computer.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> >
> > Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > > Eric Schuele <e.schuele at computer.org> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Allan Bowhill wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Does anyone know how to turn off the annoying beep when BSD
> > >>>partition selector comes up?
> > >>
> > >>Wish I knew... I could use this as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > You could modify your sources to remove it.
> > > Pretty simple; just remove the putchr (line 205 of boot0.S).
> > >
> >
> > OK... Thanks. I'll give it a try.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Eric
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:00:56 -0400
> > From: wmc2004aug at bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050516215636.02a1c380 at mailsvr.xxiii.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >
> > At 09:36 PM 5/16/2005, you wrote:
> > >... It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD ...
> > >... Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> >
> > I have a system with nearly identical specs that runs DNS and some other
> > minor services on our external network. While I can't comment on NetBSD, 
> I
> >
> > would suggest that with FreeBSD in that little memory, you should take 
> the
> > time to configure and compile a stripped-down kernel. It saves 5 or 6 MB
> > of ram on mine (ie: a good chuck of 64MB!)
> >
> > -Wayne
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:11:18 -0400
> > From: Steve <steve at digitalbluesky.net>
> > Subject: (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <6.2.1.2.0.20050516220806.0276a350 at mail.digitalbluesky.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > I went back and tried the whole partitioning process again following the
> > instructions EXACTLY as laid out in section 16.3.1 of the FreeBSD 
> handbook
> > and it worked this time.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 5/16/2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > >"steve" <steve at digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a 
> freebsd
> > > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163.ht
> > > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb 
> hard
> > > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > > However, when I try to:
> > > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > > >
> > > > I get the error:
> > > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> > >
> > >You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > >were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > >*any* /dev/da* devices?
> > >
> > >What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:11:18 -0400
> > From: Steve <steve at digitalbluesky.net>
> > Subject: (SOLVED)Re: A litte more help with creating a freebsd
> > partition on an external usbdrive
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <6.2.1.2.0.20050516220806.0276a350 at mail.digitalbluesky.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> >
> >
> > I went back and tried the whole partitioning process again following the
> > instructions EXACTLY as laid out in section 16.3.1 of the FreeBSD 
> handbook
> > and it worked this time.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:54 PM 5/16/2005, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > >"steve" <steve at digitalbluesky.net> writes:
> > >
> > > > This is a follow-up to my earlier question on how to create a 
> freebsd
> > > > partition on a usbdrive. I followed these instructions:
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/x163.ht
> > > > ml And was able to create a 111 gig freebsd partition on the usb 
> hard
> > > > drive, with label da0s1d and /mnt/usbdrive as it's mount point.
> > > > However, when I try to:
> > > > ># mount /dev/da0s1d /mnt/usbdrive
> > > >
> > > > I get the error:
> > > > ># mount: /dev/da0s1d: no such file or directory
> > > >
> > > > In /dev I see an entry for da0s1 and da0s1c but no entry for
> > > > da0s1d. Any help in determining what I have missed? Steve
> > >
> > >You say you were able to create it as da0s1d; how do you *know* you
> > >were able to do that. It doesn't look as though you did. Are there
> > >*any* /dev/da* devices?
> > >
> > >What if you rescan the USB bus?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517023224.71177.qmail at web54006.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My lab bought a new computer, which I have to
> > configure as a dual-homed/gateway, sambaserver,
> > http-server, etc. This I know how to do.
> > I'm using 5.4-RELEASE for this computer.
> >
> > Among many things 'built-in' on the motherboard,
> > it has this also built-in:
> > skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet
> > firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
> > fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire>
> >
> > (these lines are from dmesg output)
> >
> > The 'skc0' has the regular ethernet socket (RJ-45
> > connector), so I can use that as one ethernet
> > connection.
> >
> > Can I use the firewire/ethernet as the second
> > ethernet card on this computer. If yes, how?
> > I'm not at all familiar with firewire stuff.
> > The lines in the dmesg output actually triggered
> > this question.
> >
> > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > BTW: what are the advantages and disadvantages of
> > using this firewire thing as ethernet device?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 24
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:39:40 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD or NetBSD on older hardware (MMX)
> > To: questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517103652.2933.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Tue, 17 May 2005 01:02:42 +0800
> > FreeBSD MailingLists <freebsd.ml at gmail.com> wrote
> >
> > > I fished out an old laptop out of my closet.
> > > It is a Pentium 233 MMX w/ 64MB Ram and 12G HD
> > > I am thinking about setting up a small station for browsing the web.
> > > Which would perform better on such a system? FreeBSD or NetBSD?
> > >
> > > I know that this is a mailing list for FreeBSD users, but I am hoping
> > > that you will be objective and give me a suggestion based purely on
> > > performance.
> >
> > Performance? Which OS may be the wrong question.
> >
> > If you want it to browse the web, add RAM. If possible, add 512MB.
> >
> > I'd ask how much experience you have with the command line. netBSD (and
> > openBSD) will require much more work on the command line than freeBSD.
> >
> > I'd also ask whether you need multibyte text. If so, freeBSD's support
> > of locales is better than netBSD's or openBSD's.
> >
> > I understand that it is possible to get a window manager working with
> > only 64 MB of RAM, but you would want to use one of the bare bones, dead
> > simple ones, _not_ Gnome or KDE. Even if you can raise the RAM to 512 
> MB,
> > you'll still probably prefer to use a simpler window manager.
> >
> > If you really know what you are doing, you can get better performance on
> > small systems with netBSD. But if you knew that much, you wouldn't be
> > asking.
> >
> > Pick one, go for it, expect to learn a lot. As much as possible, avoid
> > compiling on a box that slow. Use binary packages when you can.
> >
> > Expect compiles to take days, not hours. With only 64MB, don't be
> > surprised if a moderately large source package takes more than a week to
> > compile.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 25
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:42:47 +0700 (ICT)
> > From: Olivier Nicole <on at cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: spamrefuse at yahoo.com
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170242.j4H2glVx014970 at banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
> >
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what it says it is,
> > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the other end you also
> > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> >
> > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I guess.
> >
> > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend that you buy proper
> > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable (last longer,
> > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some weird Ethernet
> > switches...) than cheap solution like "over Firewire". Is it worth
> > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a good share of
> > your lab infrastructure?
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 26
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: Olivier Nicole <on at cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <20050517024840.93539.qmail at web54004.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > --- Olivier Nicole <on at cs.ait.ac.th> wrote:
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> > >
> > > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what
> > > it says it is,
> > > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the
> > > other end you also
> > > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> > >
> > > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I
> > > guess.
> > >
> > > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend
> > > that you buy proper
> > > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable
> > > (last longer,
> > > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some
> > > weird Ethernet
> > > switches...) than cheap solution like "over
> > > Firewire". Is it worth
> > > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a
> > > good share of
> > > your lab infrastructure?
> >
> > I had no idea what this firewire stuff was about,
> > but in that case I will ignore it and buy another
> > decent LAN card.
> > Thanks for your explanation.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> > Discover Yahoo!
> > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out!
> > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 27
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:22:50 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517115242.2936.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > > My lab bought a new computer, which I have to
> > > configure as a dual-homed/gateway, sambaserver,
> > > http-server, etc. This I know how to do.
> > > I'm using 5.4-RELEASE for this computer.
> > >
> > > Among many things 'built-in' on the motherboard,
> > > it has this also built-in:
> > > skc0: Marvell Yukon Lite Gigabit Ethernet
> > > firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
> > > fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire>
> > >
> > > (these lines are from dmesg output)
> > >
> > > The 'skc0' has the regular ethernet socket (RJ-45
> > > connector), so I can use that as one ethernet
> > > connection.
> > >
> > > Can I use the firewire/ethernet as the second
> > > ethernet card on this computer. If yes, how?
> > > I'm not at all familiar with firewire stuff.
> > > The lines in the dmesg output actually triggered
> > > this question.
> > >
> > > Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > > use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > > The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > > '1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector.
> >
> > That would be extremely odd if it were an RJ-45. Firewire (IEEE1394)
> > uses two or three physical connectors, but none of them are RJ-45.
> >
> > > Do I
> > > need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> >
> > You don't really want a converter. The point of ethernet over firewire
> > was to allow two computers (or other devices, like high-end video) to
> > route ethernet over a firewire cable.
> >
> > > BTW: what are the advantages and disadvantages of
> > > using this firewire thing as ethernet device?
> >
> > I've seen USB "modems" (telco network to USB), haven't seen any Firewire
> > modems, which seems a little odd, since USB and IP are not a good fit,
> > and since Firewire includes IP over firewire in the standard. I guess
> > that's just because iNTEL decided to put USB (an iNTEL technology) into
> > their chipsets, so USB is ubiquitous.
> >
> > Just for fun, I searched on google for "firewire ethernet" and found
> > this:
> >
> > <http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/28/0831203&mode=thread>
> >
> > It may answer some of your questions.
> >
> > Probably, the only way this would help in your case is if you had two
> > boxes with firewire on two separate but physically close networks and
> > wanted to use those two boxes as a bridge between the two networks.
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 28
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:37:17 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: running FreeBSD 4.11 or 5.4 on a SBC
> > To: "Freebsd-Questions" <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517122525.293C.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > > I have a need for a Single Board Computer (SBC), something like the
> > TS-5600
> > >
> > > http://www.embeddedarm.com/epc/ts5600-spec-p.php
> > >
> > > My requirements are:
> > >
> > > +100MHz CPU
> > > Wireless 802.11b
> > > 3 or 4 Serial ports
> > > boot from a CF card
> > > 8 ch. A/D
> > > 2 ch. D/A
> > > less than 5 watts of power!
> > >
> > > is this do-able in FreeBSD?
> >
> > It has been done. You could probably find something about several such
> > projects by searching on your favorite search engine for "sbc freebsd"
> > or something similar.
> >
> > As noted, netbsd, openbsd, and various flavors of Linux have also been
> > used in this sort of device with good results. (More terms you might
> > want to search on.)
> >
> > > Since I am on this subject, I was going to use an old P-120 
> motherboard
> > > running with a hard drive for development.
> > > Does any one know of a cheep A/D - D/A and DIO PCI card that can be 
> used
> > > with FreeBSD?
> >
> > Again, they exist. You'll probably come across such hardware while
> > doing the above searches.
> >
> > > I am hoping to most of the development in C (little as possible, as I 
> am
> > > just learning C), and shell scripts.
> >
> > You'll probably find some mailing lists in the process as well, where
> > you can get help with this.
> >
> > Have fun. :-)
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 29
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Rob <spamrefuse at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: dual-homed gateway: polling & no-polling LANs combined. OK?
> > To: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517033957.97192.qmail at web54003.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a dual-homed gateway, running 5.4 release.
> >
> > I have one LAN card for which with polling is
> > supported, but for the other one it's not.
> >
> > Is it a good idea to use polling for the one card,
> > and leave the other in no-polling state.
> >
> > Is that OK? Advantages/disadvantages? Recommendations?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Rob.
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Mail
> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
> > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 30
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:46:41 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: How to use snapshots
> > To: <freebsd-questions at FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Message-ID: <20050517124310.293F.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > (reformatted, to maintain the thread)
> >
> > > > > ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ looks like
> > > > install disc1
> > > > > content.
> > > > >
> > > > > How or what do I need to run to use this to update my system?
> > > > >
> > > > > Been to the official handbook with no luck.
> > > >
> > > > It's exactly like any other install image.
> > > > Boot the floppies and do a binary upgrade.
> > >
> > > I have no idea what you mean by those statements.
> > > What floppies are you talking about?
> > > What does what you say have to do with system snapshots.
> > >
> > > How do I download the snapshot version with all the files and
> > > sub-directors?
> > >
> > > This snapshot URL must be a normal thing available to the general
> > > FreeBSD user.
> > > So there must be some pre-canned way to download and use it.
> > > How do I find this out?
> >
> > Read this whole section:
> >
> > 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html
> >
> > Note, in particular, under the heading
> >
> > 19.2.2.3 <http://19.2.2.3> Using FreeBSD-STABLE
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 31
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:51:34 +0900
> > From: Joel <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Subject: Re: is this a possible DoS attack?
> > To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <20050517124657.2942.REES at ddcom.co.jp>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"
> >
> > On Mon, 16 May 2005 08:26:58 -0600
> > "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net <http://Shire.Net> LLC" <chad at shire.net> wrote
> > > [...]
> > > May 16 02:20:00 crickhollow named[87025]: zone 22.63.209.in-addr.arpa/
> > > IN: loading master file ptr.209.63.22: file not found
> > > May 16 02:33:31 crickhollow /kernel: Limiting icmp unreach response
> > > from 232 to 200 packets per second
> > > May 16 03:14:52 crickhollow /kernel: All mbufs exhausted, please see
> > > tuning(7).
> > > May 16 03:14:53 crickhollow last message repeated 3 times
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: o 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.70.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.70.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 on dc0
> > > May 16 03:14:59 crickhollow /kernel: arp: 166.70.252.252<http://166.70.252.252>moved from
> > > 00:20:ed:16:b9:07 to 00:20:ed:56:b9:07 on dc0"
> > > [...]
> >
> > NIC in 166.70.252.252 <http://166.70.252.252> going bad?
> >
> > Some sort early morning of line noise? (I'd suggest the solar flare, but
> > I think that was before the weekend.)
> >
> > --
> > Joel Rees <rees at ddcom.co.jp>
> > digitcom, inc. $B3t<02q<R%G%8%3%`(B
> > Kobe, Japan +81-78-672-8800
> > ** <http://www.ddcom.co.jp> **
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 32
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 23:11:25 -0500
> > From: "Bagus" <bagus at cox.net>
> > Subject: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> > Message-ID: <NFBBJMMIKLKCDJIPOPLFGEPKFNAA.bagus at cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not sure 
> of
> > all the syntax.
> >
> > If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > hostname="john"
> > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
> >
> > now I'm hoping to have a
> >
> > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>
> > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>
> > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>
> > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>
> >
> > I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the 
> 'search'
> > line in there do?
> >
> > Any other considerations?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bagus
> >
> > p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only 
> have
> > "11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box online!
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 33
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:07:45 +0700 (ICT)
> > From: Olivier Nicole <on at cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: bagus at cox.net
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <200505170407.j4H47jFr070180 at banyan.cs.ait.ac.th>
> >
> > > now I'm hoping to have a
> > >
> > > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>
> > > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>
> > > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>
> > > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>
> >
> >
> > in /etc/rc.conf
> >
> > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186> netmask 
> 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>"
> > defaultrouter="204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>"
> > hostname="bagus.org <http://bagus.org>"
> >
> > in /etc/resolv.conf
> >
> > dunno, what do you expect to have?
> >
> > olivier
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 34
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:14:33 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <5ef8c2f005051621143a9f4076 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On 5/17/05, Bagus <bagus at cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not 
> sure
> > of
> > > all the syntax.
> > >
> > > If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > > hostname="john"
> > > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
> > >
> > > now I'm hoping to have a
> > >
> > > hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>
> > > gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>
> > > ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>
> > > netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>
> > >
> > > I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the
> > 'search'
> > > line in there do?
> > >
> > > Any other considerations?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bagus
> > >
> > > p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > > how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only 
> have
> > > "11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > > configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box 
> online!
> > >
> >
> > I use the following on my rc.conf:
> >
> > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.200.8 <http://192.168.200.8> netmask 
> 255.255.255.0 <http://255.255.255.0>"
> > defaultrouter="192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>"
> > hostname="uirapuru.pinguim"
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 35
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:18:09 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <5ef8c2f0050516211870a4f20a at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I forgot to say, my router is configured as a DNS proxy (probably the
> > default in your setup, too), so I put its address on /etc/resolv.conf:
> >
> > nameserver 192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>
> >
> > "man resolv.conf" should enlighten you about what the "search" option
> > does; I don't need it, so my whole resolv.conf file consists of that
> > single line above.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 36
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:22:27 +0800
> > From: Xu Qiang <Qiang.Xu at fujixerox.com>
> > Subject: The availability of socketbits.h?
> > To: freebsd-questions at FreeBSD.org
> > Message-ID: <20050517041306.1888E1D92E at imss.sgp.fujixerox.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Hi, all:
> >
> > I am compiling NNGS (No Name Go Server) code in my FreeBSD 5.3 machine. 
> Yet,
> > I came across the following error:
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > gcc -traditional-cpp -Wall -DFREEBSD -c network.c
> > network.c:23: socketbits.h: No such file or directory
> > gmake: *** [network.o] Error 1
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have searched for this file in my system, but can't find it.
> >
> > To have it present, which software must I install?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Xu Qiang
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 37
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 12:26:53 +0800
> > From: Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo at nexlabs.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre at gmail.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <4289728D.7070805 at nexlabs.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > This brings to mind a question, I've been wanting to ask:
> >
> > How does one get the system to read the rc.conf changes without
> > rebooting the system?
> >
> > José de Paula Rodrigues wrote:
> >
> > >On 5/17/05, Bagus <bagus at cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>I'm using FreeBsd 5.3 and I'm switching to a static ip, but am not 
> sure
> > of
> > >>all the syntax.
> > >>
> > >>If not, here's what I had in my rc.conf.
> > >>hostname="john"
> > >>ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
> > >>
> > >>now I'm hoping to have a
> > >>
> > >>hostname of bagus.org <http://bagus.org>
> > >>gateway of 204.251.1.185 <http://204.251.1.185>
> > >>ip address of 204.251.1.186 <http://204.251.1.186>
> > >>netmask of 255.255.255.248 <http://255.255.255.248>
> > >>
> > >>I'm guessing I need to change my resolve.conf, too. what does the
> > 'search'
> > >>line in there do?
> > >>
> > >>Any other considerations?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>Bagus
> > >>
> > >>p.s. I can't for the life of me find a simple
> > >>how-to-get-your-freebsd-box-online guide. The handbook seems to only 
> have
> > >>"11.3 Core Configuration" which has a little bit about cluster
> > >>configurations. What's up with that? I just want to get one box 
> online!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I use the following on my rc.conf:
> > >
> > >ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.200.8 <http://192.168.200.8> netmask 
> 255.255.255.0 <http://255.255.255.0>"
> > >defaultrouter="192.168.200.254 <http://192.168.200.254>"
> > >hostname="uirapuru.pinguim"
> > >
> > >HTH.
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >freebsd-questions at freebsd.org mailing list
> > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe at freebsd.org"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 38
> > Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:23:49 -0600
> > From: Ed Stover <estover at nativenerds.com>
> > Subject: Re: Ethernet over FireWire: How?
> > To: Olivier Nicole <on at cs.ait.ac.th>
> > Cc: spamrefuse at yahoo.com
> > Message-ID: <428971D5.5080902 at nativenerds.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Olivier Nicole wrote:
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > >
> > >>Can someone give me a layman's answer to how I can
> > >>use the firewire as the second ethernet card?
> > >>The backside of the computer has a socket labeled
> > >>'1394', but this is not a RJ-45 connector. Do I
> > >>need a converter cable from firewire to RJ-45?
> > Just drop $15 for another NIC.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd say that "Ethernet over Firewire" is really what it says it is,
> > > Ethernet is encapsulated in Firewire, so at the other end you also
> > > need to attach to a "Ethernet over Firewire" device.
> > >
> > > Beside, Firewire is much slower than Ethernet I guess.
> > Firewire is essentially twice as fast as 100baseT and almost as fast as
> > 1000baseT (GigaBit)
> > >
> > > If you build a router for your lab, I'd recommend that you buy proper
> > > Ethernet cards, they will prove much more reliable (last longer,
> > > deliver higher bandwidth, attach nicely to some weird Ethernet
> > > switches...) than cheap solution like "over Firewire".
> > "over firewire" is not a cheap solution, actually it will cost you more
> > upfront and in the long run then ethernet.
> > > Is it worth
> > > saving 50$ on a machine that is supposed to handle a good share of
> > > your lab infrastructure?
> > Remember a decent NIC is $8-$15 ..
> > >
> > > Olivier
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > freebsd-questions at freebsd.org mailing list
> > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe at freebsd.org"
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 39
> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:27:45 -0300
> > From: Jos? de Paula Rodrigues<espinafre at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: changing from dhcp to static ip, changing hostname, etc.
> > To: Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo at nexlabs.com>
> > Cc: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> > Message-ID: <5ef8c2f005051621273774de29 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > On 5/17/05, Foo Ji-Haw <jhfoo at nexlabs.com> wrote:
> > > This brings to mind a question, I've been wanting to ask:
> > >
> > > How does one get the system to read the rc.conf changes without
> > > rebooting the system?
> > >
> >
> > Just restart the appropriate service (usually found in /etc/rc.d or
> > /usr/local/etc/rc.d).
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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