Stupid ASCII loader prompt

Michael C. Shultz ringworm01 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 17 09:13:36 PST 2005


On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:04 am, Thompson, Jimi wrote:
> <SNIP>
>
> > What I think is going to end up happening if they do get a decent
> > logo
> >
> > out of this contest, is that ultimately your going to see the new
> > logo
> >
> > used in a few places here and there on the Internet, and your going
> > to
> >
> > see beastie used at most other places.  It will simply present more
> > confusion to non-FreeBSD users if it does anything at all.  Most
> > likely it will do nothing at all, in the same way that GM for
> > example uses multiple brands for the same iron.
>
> </SNIP>
>
> Personally, I find the suggestion that we remove the daemon as the
> logo to be religiously offensive.  The gods of the old religion
> always become the evil of the new religion.  If you're so worried
> about formulating a "poltically correct" response to the daemon, the
> be concerned about the politicial correctness of violing MY religious
> freedom.
>
> Frankly, I find that most religious people are all about removing
> religious references UNTIL the point at which you go to remove
> references to their religion.  If the logo was a cross, the
> christians would be irate about having it removed.  If the logo was
> star of david, the jews would be irate about having it removed.  If
> the logo was cresent moon, the islamic element would be irate about
> having it removed.  However, each group would rejoice if another
> group's icon was removed as the logo.
>
> People's arugments about what name you should call your god are the
> poorest excuse I've ever seen for most of the ills that befall
> humanity. Any right thinking individual realizes that 1) not everyone
> is going to agree with you and 2) true conversion does not come with
> the use of force.  If your version of god is so totally awesome and
> your faith is so great in what you believe and you aren't afraid of
> being converted, why do you feel the need to try to supress everyone
> else?
>
> Now, from a marketing perspective, FreeBSD could do worse than
> Beastie. The fact that he is some what controversial generates a
> significant amount of publicity.  Any marketing wonk will tell you
> that ANY publicity is good and free publicity is the best kind.  6
> months later, people don't remember WHAT was said but they do
> recognize the name.  All of it serves to build the brand.
>
> I see changing the logo as an act of cowardice because you are giving
> in to the religious right who have their own agenda which involves
> dominating everyone's ideas about religion.  I would urge the FreeBSD
> community to stick to their guns and take a stand for religious
> freedom for everyone.  You have a right to your logo.  It's been your
> logo for 20 years and no bunch of religious bigots should be able to
> make you change it.  I'm not saying that they have to agree with you,
> but they don't have the right to force you to change.
>
> 2 cents,
>
> Jimi

Right on Jimi!

-Mike


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