If I have portmanager, do I need portupgrade?

[Chris Hodgins]

Chris wrote:
> Chris Hodgins wrote:
> 
>>Michael C. Shultz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sunday 13 March 2005 12:05 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If I just do:
>>>>
>>>>cvsup -g -L 2 /etc/cvsupfile && portmanager -u
>>>>
>>>>Do I need portupgrade at all then?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Not for upgrading.  portsclean (a part of portsupgrade package) is a
>>>nice feature of portupgrade, so is pkg_which and a few others
>>>so I keep portupgrade around just the same.
>>>
>>>-Mike
>>
>>
>>How long does it take to run portmanager.  Is it a similar amount of
>>time as portupgrade for each run?
>>
>>Chris
> 
> 
> The time is about the same (in my experiance) AND (most importantly)
> portmanager seems to handle upgrading better then portupgrade does.
> 
> IE: Thunderbird, Gnome, Firefox.
> 
> Another nifty thing is that portmanager creates a package and dumps it
> in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird (for example) and at least for me, I can
> pkg_add that to my laptop since they both run 5.3
> 

Excellent.  Does it leave packages for everything or is just thunderbird 
that does this?