tjg at meitech.com
Wed Feb 2 05:02:43 PST 2005
Thomas (and John too),
Let me clarify a little bit.
What I have is this:
A single FreeBSD web server with a single NIC in it
Two T1 routers, each with a different subnet.
My FreeBSD box has two IP addresses assigned to it, one from the first
subnet and one from the second subnet.
I want to use round-robin DNS to direct half my web traffic to the first
IP and half to the second IP.
As I said to John in a private e-mail earlier this morning, I have a
Windows 2000 box that is doing exactly this with these two subnets right
now. I know it "can" be done. I have a feeling that the FreeBSD TCP
stack lacks the capability. By the way, this also works with Cisco
hardware. I have used Cisco equipment in this same configuration in the
I think they way it SHOULD work is that you should be able to give a
FreeBSD box multiple default gateways. When FreeBSD gets a packet to an
IP on the first subnet, it should use the default gateway that is also
on that subnet. When FreeBSD gets a packet to an IP on the second
subnet, it should use the second default gateway. This seems to be the
logic that Windows (and Cisco) uses.
MEI Technology Consulting, Inc
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From: Thomas Foster [mailto:tbonius at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:57 AM
To: Gustafson, Tim
Cc: questions at freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Routing Problem
If you have multiple interfaces and you configure a default gateway for
interface, the default metric determination that is based on the speed
the interface usually uses the fastest interface for default gateway
traffic. This is usually desirable in configurations in which the
is connected to the same network.
This behavior can become a problem when the computer exists on two or
disjointed networks (networks that do not provide symmetric reachability
layer3). Symmetric reachability exists when packets can be sent to and
received from an arbitrary destination.
Because the TCP/IP version4 protocol uses a single default route in
FreeBSD's routing table at any one time for default route traffic,
routers configured on multiple interfaces connected to two or more
disjointed networks can wreak routing traffic havoc.
In FreeBSD, you can manually configure the routing table for the
interfaces.. but it sounds to me as if you are attempting to use two
ethernet interfaces connected to two disjointed networks connected to
routers with two seperate subnets in order to balance http requests to
server.. is this the case? I guess I am not fully understanding your
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustafson, Tim" <tjg at meitech.com>
To: "Thomas Foster" <tbonius at comcast.net>
Cc: <questions at freebsd.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: RE: Routing Problem
> No, I'm not using this box as a router. It is a web server, and I
> to spread the load of my web traffic across two separate T1s.
> I can't just add routes. You need a default route, or parts of the
> internet would become inaccessible. In my case, you need TWO default
> routes. I have set up Cisco equipment and Windows workstations with
> default routes in the past, and it has worked. In fact, I have one
> Windows box right now that is configured on both these networks with
> default gateways, and it is working.
> There has to be a way to make it work on FreeBSD.
> Tim Gustafson
> MEI Technology Consulting, Inc
> tjg at meitech.com
> (516) 379-0001 Office
> (516) 480-1870 Mobile/Emergencies
> (516) 908-4185 Fax
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Foster [mailto:tbonius at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:48 AM
> To: Gustafson, Tim
> Cc: questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Routing Problem
> Im confused.. if you have two T1s, then are using /30s dor the ranges?
> so.. what about not giving a default gateway for either one and just
> Are you attempting utilize this as just a router.?
> Theres a section that covers setting up routing on interfaces in the
> Hope this helps
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustafson, Tim" <tjg at meitech.com>
> To: <freebsd-questions at freebsd.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:35 PM
> Subject: Routing Problem
>>I am having a problem setting up a multi-homed host. I have two
>> separate T1 internet connections, and one physical NIC in my FreeBSD
>> box. The two networks are as follows:
>> Connection 1:
>> LAN Address: 188.8.131.52/25
>> Router Address: 184.108.40.206
>> Connection 2:
>> LAN Address: 220.127.116.11/29
>> Router Address: 18.104.22.168
>> I would like to set up my FreeBSD box so that I can connect to either
>> LAN address from the outside world. The problem is that I cannot
>> specify two default gateways. Right now, I have 22.214.171.124 set up as a
>> default gateway, and I can get to the 126.96.36.199 IP from the outside
>> world. However, I can't get to 188.8.131.52. I can't even ping it.
>> the FreeBSD box, I can ping 184.108.40.206, and from the outside world I
>> ping 220.127.116.11, but I can't ping 18.104.22.168 from the outside world.
>> Is there any way to make this work? How can I make FreeBSD have two
>> default gateways? I read somewhere about being able to set up source
>> routing, but I haven't been able to find any HOWTO's about that.
>> Any help is greatly appreciated.
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