5.2.1-RC1 and RC2
wegster at mindcore.net
Wed Feb 18 21:17:08 PST 2004
ian j hart wrote:
>On Monday 16 February 2004 3:16 am, Kent Stewart wrote:
>>On Sunday 15 February 2004 07:04 pm, Chris wrote:
>>>On Sunday 15 February 2004 09:00 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>>>>Is is me? Or has something changed in 5.2 that tends to make
>>>>>systems freeze up during portupgrade? Mainly - KDE-3.2.0
>>>>>That being said, I seem to be seeing this more often on other
>>>>>upgrades. Strange thing is, I considered it to be my PC however,
>>>>>I never seem to run into the total freeze when doing a
>>>>No trouble here upgrading 5.2 to current on my desktop and no
>>>>trouble upgrading my 5.2p1 to 5.2RC2 on my server. I suspect your
>>>>problem is hardware or driver related.
>>> My upgrades (5.2.1 -> 5.2.1-RC1 -> 5.2.1-RC2) went flawless. The
>>>issues I'm having is during portupgrade.
>>> Interesting - I did as you advised. I am typically running between
>>>113 and 125 degrees (F) My AMD did come with a fan. Perchance I ought
>>>to look into alternative cooling?
>>Mine ran like that for 53 weeks. The warranty was for 52. When it died,
>>it litterally blew one of the voltage regulator ICs on the motherboard.
>>All I saw was a flash of light at the same time as a loud bang and the
>>top right corner of the IC disappeared. Out was towards me but I didn't
>>feel it hit nor could I find it.
>Much as I love AMD, I would have to agree about the fans. I bought boxed CPUs
>with fans as I expected that this would provide the right level of cooling
>(and reliability). IIRC the warranty was 2 years. When the first one went
>"wobbly" I replaced the lot. It's just not worth taking the chance.
>To the OP, re temperatures. I wouldn't rely too much on what other peoples
>The actual temperature of the CPU is going to depend on the speed and CPU core
>architecture (and maybe the BIOS) vs the ambient temp/cooling.
>This is as opposed to the temperature reported. The accuracy is going vary
>with method (chip) which means, which M/B. I somehow doubt the sensors are
>individually calibrated against a lab standard.
>If you can find somone with the same CPU/Motherboard, those numbers would be
>slightly more useful.
>As a counter example my 2100+/Gigabyte GA-VTXE+ (BIOS F6a) sits at 54C idle
>and around 60C when busy. It's perfectly stable (on stable, not current).
>[With fvcool idle temp = 30C]
>If I forget to clean the filters, the temperature will rise, and the system
>becomes increasingly unstable. A few degrees increase is enough.
>My advice is to clean any filters, fans and heatsinks and check the fans spin
>correctly. If the box runs cooler, note the temperature for future reference.
>>The current fans look like the Antec fans you can see in a Circuit City
>>or Best Buy. You can mail order them but I think I would buy one sooner
>>than that :). You have been having problems for quite a while now and
>>that may be what is going on.
Just another 'me too' on the lousy ^$#(# AMD supplied Athlon fans. Had
a dual AMD 1800+ setup with OE/Retail AMD fans, system less than a year
old, actually purchased from a company that went under, so the system
sat idle for a good part of that year. Ran it for about a month, CPU
fan failure, one _very_ cooked Athlon MP 1800+ CPU later...was cheaper
to buy a pair of MP 2000+ off eBay than a new (or used) 1800+ CPU, but
went ahead and spent the $ on ThermalTake Silent Boost fans- I don't
overclock server systems, but they _are_ quiet by comparison, and are
basically 80mm case fans with copper heat sink. Both (replacement) CPUs
I think I paid $140 for, and ~$50 for the fans, so it's a fair amount of
$ by comparison, but have used TT fans in the past and haven't had one
die on me yet. Probably overkill, but lose a few CPUs (PIII CPUs seem
to be able to survive a CPU fan failure, P4 and Xeons generally survive,
but AMD chips will cook themselves in a heartbeat!) and it'll seem worth
the few extra $$..
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