Gnome without the stuff?

[Mark Rowlands]

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> From: owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org 
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions at freebsd.org] On Behalf Of 
> Robert William Vesterman
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:32 PM
> To: freebsd-questions at freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Gnome without the stuff?
> 
> Mark Rowlands wrote:
> 
> >/usr/ports/www/firefox
> >/usr/ports/www/epiphany
> >/usr/ports/mail/evolution
> >/usr/ports/games/gnome-music-quiz
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomeattacks
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomebreakout
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomechess
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomegames2
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomegames2-extra-data
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomekiss
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomememoryblocks
> >/usr/ports/games/gnomermin
> >
> >Sure they have dependencies, you might need X........
> >  
> >
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something fundamental.  Is "Gnome" 
> nothing more than the collection of applications like 
> Evolution and Epiphany and the little game with the colored 
> marbles? I thought it was a GUI environment, not an application suite.

As the BSD package states :-

GNU Network Object Model Environment

This metaport installs the entire GNOME 2 desktop, including
the the most common user applications.  Other popular GNOME
applications can be installed from the other GNOME 2 metaports:

    * x11/gnome2-fifth-toe
    * x11/gnome2-power-tools
    * editors/gnome2-office
    * devel/gnome2-hacker-tools

WWW: http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/


> Now, I understand that epiphany and so forth can be installed 
> via their own ports.  But the "gnome2" package installs 
> epiphany and evolution and gnomegames and assorted other 
> gnomecrappitycrap (I'm sure it's wonderful stuff, no offense 
> intended by this choice of words).  Gnome2 "depends" 
> upon the little game with the colored marbles.  But I just 
> want the Gnome desktop without that game, and so forth.

Nja.... Now I see...... In that case I would start hacking at
the Makefile in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2-lite - take out a few
Of those runtime dependencies.  
 
> But if I'm right that Gnome is nothing more than 
> gnomecrappitycrap et al, then maybe what I'm really looking 
> for would be the Windows Manager that Gnome uses by default? 
> That is, Metacity? Maybe?

Sawfish perhaps?

> I'm sorry if these are stupid questions - I'm mostly new to 
> this, and am confused as to the roles of (Gnome/KDE/Whatever) 
> versus (Metacity/WindowMaker/Whatever).

Nope... Not stupid.... KDE / Gnome provide fully featured
desktops out of the box so to speak, I prefer to use a window
manager appropriate to the task/capabilities of the machine I
am using. Usually windowmaker or xfce but I have KDE on my laptop
to show windows folks - I also have XP on my laptop to show unix
folks ;-)  

> 
> >Personally I want the moon on a stick.
> >  
> >
> I'm sorry, I can't help you with that.
> 

Goddamn....is there no one pit there that can help me that.