Items missing from the handbook and/or FAQs.

[Joe Rhett]

On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 01:27:12PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Joe Rhett wrote:
> >>Well I think, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this case, an installation
> >>documentation must be read/printed before installation.
> >>Another thing, sysinstall comes with an help, and you can read it from
> >>sysinstall.  For example I let you read /stand/help/partition.hlp 
> > 
> >If there was a way to read this during the installation, I couldn't
> >figure it out.  Maybe I'm dumb, but...
> 
> Your expectations are unreasonable, here.  FreeBSD can be installed off of 
> two floppy disks; complete FreeBSD documentation available over the web in 
> HTML or in PDF is much larger than that and doesn't fit!
 
How do my expectations fit into this?  Someone said I could read something
during the installation.  I said I couldn't figure out how, to which you
replied that my expectations are unreasonable?

> >On a laptop it would be nice to create the suspend partition...
> 
> Why not use the vendor-supplied utility to create one, and then install 
> FreeBSD into the remaining space?

Because one must install the entire OS and software package to do so?
Again, how hard is this problem to fix?  One menu item, displays a list of
filesystem types and numbers.  Probably less than 5 lines of code and a
text string.
 
> An honest answer would be that your current approach is unlikely to 
> convince other people to spend the time to make these changes for you.  

I followed the documentation.  Specifically, section 3 "Preparation".

> It's also the case that other people make the changes they feel are best, 
> which may not be the same changes you would make.
 
Every single response seems to assume that I disagree with the changes
someone would make, yet I haven't seen any such.

> It's not that difficult to learn how to make a useful submission, but it's 
> up to you whether you want to spend the time.  I suppose another approach 
> would be to pay someone to implement your ideas.
 
I AM spending/wasting my time following the documentation for a submission.
They explicitly state to bring it up on a mailing list first.

> >Frankly, this sort of "we'll ignore your complaints but accept your
> >patches" approach is generally just a way to ignore problems.  I've dealt
> >with it too many times before to not recognize it.
> 
> We haven't been ignoring your complaints, but have it as you will.
 
Oh, most certainly not.  I've collected more than 20 insults so far, most
of them based on some unstated assumption that I disagree with anything
someone else proposes.  Given that nobody has proposed anything, I guess
I'm missing the basis of these attacks.

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Joe Rhett                                                      Chief Geek
JRhett at Isite.Net                                      Isite Services, Inc.