From tinderbox at freebsd.org Thu Jan 1 08:49:25 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Thu Jan 1 08:49:32 2009 Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090101084924.419C07302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-01 07:03:34 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-01 07:03:34 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-01 07:03:34 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-01 07:03:59 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-01 07:03:59 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/HEAD/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - building world TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-01 07:09:19 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Thu Jan 1 07:09:21 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> World build completed on Thu Jan 1 08:34:10 UTC 2009 TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - building LINT kernel TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-01 08:34:10 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Thu Jan 1 08:34:10 UTC 2009 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -Werror vers.c linking kernel kern_exec.o(.sbss+0x0): multiple definition of `elf32_fallback_brand' imgact_elf.o(.sdata+0x0): first defined here kern_mib.o(.sbss+0x40): multiple definition of `elf32_fallback_brand' imgact_elf.o(.sdata+0x0): first defined here elf_machdep.o(.sbss+0x0): multiple definition of `elf32_fallback_brand' imgact_elf.o(.sdata+0x0): first defined here *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-01 08:49:23 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-01 08:49:23 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2009-01-01 08:49:23 - 4803.91 user 414.56 system 6348.89 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-head-HEAD-powerpc-powerpc.full From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Sat Jan 3 19:41:29 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Sat Jan 3 19:41:59 2009 Subject: panic: ofw_bus_search_intrmap: expected interrupt cell size incorrect: 4 > 8 In-Reply-To: References: <460A59E1-DAF6-46B0-960F-337623A27921@mac.com> <495246E5.4060305@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <495FBFFC.5040608@freebsd.org> Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:27 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > >> Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >>> I just updated my xserve and got the following: >>> >>> ... >>> pcib1: on nexus0 >>> pci1: on pcib1 >>> pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci1 >>> pci2: on pcib2 >>> panic: ofw_bus_search_intrmap: expected interrupt cell size >>> incorrect: 4 > 8 >> This means that the #interrupt-cells property of the bus's >> #interrupt-parent and the bus itself disagree (1 versus 2). I'm not >> even sure what the correct way to handle this is. Could you check some >> nodes on that PCI bus with ofwdump, and tell me what their interrupts >> properties look like? > > I have a dump here: > http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/xserve/ofwdump.txt > > I'll see what I can do. > FYI, > This should be fixed in revision 186728. Let me know if it is still misbehaving. -Nathan From lazaax.und at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 05:06:28 2009 From: lazaax.und at gmail.com (lazaax -) Date: Mon Jan 5 05:06:35 2009 Subject: imac g4 dont boot Message-ID: <4374ff010901042042l2d6d69fev8b9ca97f99232dc1@mail.gmail.com> i need a help with a imac g4,i put the power cable and i push the power botton to turn on the mac and it makes a sound at start but the porblem is that dont boot, and keep like panic o somthing like that, i want to try install freebsd to this mac o restore the sistema mac that was installed, thanks people...... -- Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org Mon Jan 5 11:06:58 2009 From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster) Date: Mon Jan 5 11:08:56 2009 Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <200901051106.n05B6uLS002882@freefall.freebsd.org> Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a power/121407 ppc [panic] Won't boot up; strange error message. o power/112435 ppc [nexus] [patch] Update nexus children to use ofw_bus f o power/111296 ppc [kernel] [patch] [request] Support IMISS, DLMISS an DS o power/93203 ppc FreeBSD PPC Can't Write to Partitions. 4 problems total. From Richard.DeLaurell at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 12:26:37 2009 From: Richard.DeLaurell at gmail.com (Richard.DeLaurell@gmail.com) Date: Mon Jan 5 12:26:43 2009 Subject: imac g4 dont boot Message-ID: <001636163c896fde6f045fbaf083@google.com> If the screen remains black and the power on button turns yellow-then-green-then-yellow again and then the machine powers itself off, your CRT (screen) is not working/broken. If the screen turns white and stops at a prompt that looks like this: 0> then you've reached ofw (open firmware) and it's waiting for you to tell it how/what to boot. Good luck with it. RD On Jan 4, 2009 11:42pm, lazaax - wrote: > i need a help with a imac g4,i put the power cable > > and i push the power botton to turn on the mac and it makes a sound at > > start but the porblem is that dont boot, and keep like panic o > > somthing like that, i want to try install freebsd to this mac o > > restore the sistema mac that was installed, > > > > thanks people...... > > > > -- > > Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From cdick at ocis.net Mon Jan 5 17:00:28 2009 From: cdick at ocis.net (Colin Dick) Date: Mon Jan 5 17:00:34 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini Message-ID: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> Hi all, I have been lurking in this list for a few months now and it seems that the posts cover pretty advanced topics. Or at least they seem to be advanced topics to me. I am wanting to load FreeBSD onto one of these: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP65 (the 1.25GHz model upgraded to 1G of RAM) My intention is to replace a larger PC running Linux that is on its last legs with this small machine running FreeBSD 7. I run a number of FreeBSD servers but all on the i386 platform. I thought if I could get it to load, the rest would be the same? It seems like I can boot the initial FreeBSD 7 disk and walk through the initial configuration (except for the section for slicing the drive). I can pick my partitions etc... however, when install goes to start, the partitions are not found? I have read that it has something to do with the location of the boot manager or where the loader is or something? I think I am learning now that this concept is not for the faint of heart and that I might be better to just give up and find a new i386 machine to port my web/mysql/email/dns servers to. Just looking for some feedback from this forum what my best options might be. Does anyone know of another forum, maillist, resource for people who are running PPCFreeBSD as hosting servers? Thanks in advance. -- Colin Dick From horst at sxemacs.org Mon Jan 5 17:58:23 2009 From: horst at sxemacs.org (Horst =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther?= Burkhardt III) Date: Mon Jan 5 17:58:30 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> Message-ID: <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 08:37 -0800, Colin Dick wrote: > Hi all, > I have been lurking in this list for a few months now and it seems that the posts cover pretty advanced topics. Or at > least they seem to be advanced topics to me. I am wanting to load FreeBSD onto one of these: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/SP65 (the 1.25GHz model upgraded to 1G of RAM) > > My intention is to replace a larger PC running Linux that is on its last legs with this small machine running FreeBSD > 7. I run a number of FreeBSD servers but all on the i386 platform. I thought if I could get it to load, the rest would > be the same? > It seems like I can boot the initial FreeBSD 7 disk and walk through the initial configuration (except for the section > for slicing the drive). I can pick my partitions etc... however, when install goes to start, the partitions are not > found? I have read that it has something to do with the location of the boot manager or where the loader is or something? > > I think I am learning now that this concept is not for the faint of heart and that I might be better to just give up > and find a new i386 machine to port my web/mysql/email/dns servers to. Just looking for some feedback from this forum > what my best options might be. Does anyone know of another forum, maillist, resource for people who are running > PPCFreeBSD as hosting servers? Thanks in advance. > > -- > Colin Dick Hey Colin, Welcome to the list :) You are correct in that when you can get FreeBSD to load, it will be pretty much the same as FreeBSD/i386 - the only difference is you'll need to compile things because basically the packages aren't compiled as much for ppc (due to lack of hardware and cpu time as i understand it)... this shouldn't be an issue for you. No, the install isn't for the faint of heart, but thankfully the people on the -ppc list have been (in my experience) welcoming and exceedingly helpful. You should have an ok time getting FreeBSD running if you just have a little patience. FreeBSD-PPC as a hosting platform is no different to FreeBSD-i386 as a hosting platform, all the software is the same. If you want help, ##FreeBSD on the freenode IRC network will help you with general questions, and you may find some use hanging around bsdforums. Some notes: When compiling things, if you optimise for the 7455 chip in your computer, you will need to include /--------------------------------------------------------------------- | -march=7450 -mtune=7455 -mno-altivec \--------------------------------------------------------------------- in your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS - as the kernel does not yet understand Altivec instructions the ommission of -mno-altivec will cause Bad Shit? to happen. In order to partition your disk, you'll want to use the debian 4.0 netinst disc for mac, and set up as mac format partition tables. Another option is to use Parted on a livecd like Finnix. The bootloader installation will require you to compile hfstools, unless you have a -CURRENT tree which has a small hfs filesystem image in it (as I understand it from stuff Nathan Whitehorn posted) This is just stuff from the lists that I ran across, it may hopefully spare you _some_ trouble. If you have any questions, just ask on the list and someone more skilled (infinitely more skilled) than I can answer and help you :) Once again, welcome, and I hope you enjoy the ride! :D -- Horst. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/attachments/20090105/99de3946/attachment.pgp From xcllnt at mac.com Tue Jan 6 03:58:30 2009 From: xcllnt at mac.com (Marcel Moolenaar) Date: Tue Jan 6 03:58:37 2009 Subject: panic: ofw_bus_search_intrmap: expected interrupt cell size incorrect: 4 > 8 In-Reply-To: <495FBFFC.5040608@freebsd.org> References: <460A59E1-DAF6-46B0-960F-337623A27921@mac.com> <495246E5.4060305@freebsd.org> <495FBFFC.5040608@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <141D3CAB-B536-4333-AC0A-F794DF529E32@mac.com> On Jan 3, 2009, at 11:43 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >> On Dec 24, 2008, at 6:27 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>> Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >>>> I just updated my xserve and got the following: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> pcib1: on nexus0 >>>> pci1: on pcib1 >>>> pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci1 >>>> pci2: on pcib2 >>>> panic: ofw_bus_search_intrmap: expected interrupt cell size >>>> incorrect: 4 > 8 >>> This means that the #interrupt-cells property of the bus's >>> #interrupt-parent and the bus itself disagree (1 versus 2). I'm >>> not even sure what the correct way to handle this is. Could you >>> check some nodes on that PCI bus with ofwdump, and tell me what >>> their interrupts properties look like? >> I have a dump here: >> http://ns1.xcllnt.net/~marcel/machines/xserve/ofwdump.txt >> I'll see what I can do. >> FYI, > > This should be fixed in revision 186728. Let me know if it is still > misbehaving. No panic anymore. Thanks! -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From lazaax.und at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 04:38:33 2009 From: lazaax.und at gmail.com (lazaax -) Date: Fri Jan 9 04:38:40 2009 Subject: dmg2iso Message-ID: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> hi people, i have a problem i use rp to download a dvd image dmg is leopard, but i have a big problem, i want to burn this image to boot on my imac and install, well i dont have the original cd/dvd, that is why i download from rp, well i cant mount also i cant see the image dmg from linunx or windows :S i want to burn on my dual layer disk but i dont know how to do it,please help. -- Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" From yanefbsd at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 05:38:37 2009 From: yanefbsd at gmail.com (Garrett Cooper) Date: Fri Jan 9 05:38:44 2009 Subject: dmg2iso In-Reply-To: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> References: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901082138q28ab6641ufc8d04096ad7b255@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, lazaax - wrote: > hi people, i have a problem i use rp to download a dvd image dmg is > leopard, but i have a big problem, i want to burn this image to boot > on my imac and install, well i dont have the original cd/dvd, that is > why i download from rp, well i cant mount also i cant see the image > dmg from linunx or windows :S i want to burn on my dual layer disk but > i dont know how to do it,please help. > > > > -- > Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" I believe the document for how to burn DVD's you are looking for is on this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html Cheers, -Garrett From yanefbsd at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 05:45:22 2009 From: yanefbsd at gmail.com (Garrett Cooper) Date: Fri Jan 9 05:45:29 2009 Subject: dmg2iso In-Reply-To: <4966E404.6070103@gmail.com> References: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0901082138q28ab6641ufc8d04096ad7b255@mail.gmail.com> <4966E404.6070103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901082145o25d2de89x6524947d878da43f@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Michael Copeland wrote: > > > Garrett Cooper wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, lazaax - wrote: >> >>> >>> hi people, i have a problem i use rp to download a dvd image dmg is >>> leopard, but i have a big problem, i want to burn this image to boot >>> on my imac and install, well i dont have the original cd/dvd, that is >>> why i download from rp, well i cant mount also i cant see the image >>> dmg from linunx or windows :S i want to burn on my dual layer disk but >>> i dont know how to do it,please help. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" >>> >> >> I believe the document for how to burn DVD's you are looking for is on >> this page: >> >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html >> >> Cheers, >> -Garrett Yeah... he could in fact probably purchase a reduced copy of OSX from Apple directly. I highly suggest getting in touch with Apple (1800-APLCARE) for more details. -Garrett From michael.copeland at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 06:13:24 2009 From: michael.copeland at gmail.com (Michael Copeland) Date: Fri Jan 9 06:13:30 2009 Subject: dmg2iso In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0901082138q28ab6641ufc8d04096ad7b255@mail.gmail.com> References: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0901082138q28ab6641ufc8d04096ad7b255@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4966E404.6070103@gmail.com> Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, lazaax - wrote: > >> hi people, i have a problem i use rp to download a dvd image dmg is >> leopard, but i have a big problem, i want to burn this image to boot >> on my imac and install, well i dont have the original cd/dvd, that is >> why i download from rp, well i cant mount also i cant see the image >> dmg from linunx or windows :S i want to burn on my dual layer disk but >> i dont know how to do it,please help. >> >> >> >> -- >> Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" >> > > I believe the document for how to burn DVD's you are looking for is on > this page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html > > Cheers, > -Garrett > i'm assuming he is wanting to burn the dmg, by converting it. i wonder if he knows there is a dmg2iso app. not helping any further due to copyright. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From lazaax.und at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 07:16:27 2009 From: lazaax.und at gmail.com (lazaax -) Date: Fri Jan 9 07:16:34 2009 Subject: dmg2iso In-Reply-To: <7d6fde3d0901082145o25d2de89x6524947d878da43f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4374ff010901082038y4337ae1coaa8d998c6f588066@mail.gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0901082138q28ab6641ufc8d04096ad7b255@mail.gmail.com> <4966E404.6070103@gmail.com> <7d6fde3d0901082145o25d2de89x6524947d878da43f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4374ff010901082316j6572697ar54553d3bc7fb556b@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/9 Garrett Cooper : > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Michael Copeland > wrote: >> >> >> Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM, lazaax - wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> hi people, i have a problem i use rp to download a dvd image dmg is >>>> leopard, but i have a big problem, i want to burn this image to boot >>>> on my imac and install, well i dont have the original cd/dvd, that is >>>> why i download from rp, well i cant mount also i cant see the image >>>> dmg from linunx or windows :S i want to burn on my dual layer disk but >>>> i dont know how to do it,please help. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" >>>> >>> >>> I believe the document for how to burn DVD's you are looking for is on >>> this page: >>> >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -Garrett > > Yeah... he could in fact probably purchase a reduced copy of OSX > from Apple directly. I highly suggest getting in touch with Apple > (1800-APLCARE) for more details. > -Garrett > thanks for the help, i think that i will call to apple for more details, you guys are cool people for helping, thanks alot... -- Leon Chavez Colima, Mexico "lazaax" From raj at semihalf.com Fri Jan 9 15:35:03 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Fri Jan 9 15:35:09 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 Message-ID: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> Hi, For those interested in FreeBSD running on PPC440/460, here's some first breathing of AMCC 460EX :-) http://people.freebsd.org/~raj/logs/ppc460.log Rafal From matt at genesi-usa.com Fri Jan 9 16:49:36 2009 From: matt at genesi-usa.com (Matt Sealey) Date: Fri Jan 9 16:49:43 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> Message-ID: Hi Rafal, How is the Efika going? On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > Hi, > For those interested in FreeBSD running on PPC440/460, here's some first > breathing of AMCC 460EX :-) http://people.freebsd.org/~raj/logs/ppc460.log > > Rafal > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Matt Sealey Genesi, Manager, Developer Relations From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Fri Jan 9 18:11:18 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Fri Jan 9 18:11:24 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> Message-ID: <49678C04.1020203@freebsd.org> With regard to the EFIKA and other non-Apple things with Open Firmware, my recent OF infrastructure changes were made in order to support real mode OF, which I believe Genesi systems use. You'll need one more uncommitted module to make it work: //depot/projects/ppc-g5/sys/powerpc/ofw/ofw_real.c. That perforce branch also has code to support ISA on PowerPC, and ns8250 UARTs as consoles. -Nathan Matt Sealey wrote: > Hi Rafal, > > How is the Efika going? > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > >> Hi, >> For those interested in FreeBSD running on PPC440/460, here's some first >> breathing of AMCC 460EX :-) http://people.freebsd.org/~raj/logs/ppc460.log >> >> Rafal >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > > From xcllnt at mac.com Fri Jan 9 21:00:36 2009 From: xcllnt at mac.com (Marcel Moolenaar) Date: Fri Jan 9 21:00:42 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> Message-ID: <74C69EBB-E774-44B3-80C9-4AD1402C233A@mac.com> On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > Hi, > For those interested in FreeBSD running on PPC440/460, here's some > first > breathing of AMCC 460EX :-) http://people.freebsd.org/~raj/logs/ppc460.log Sweet! I have a SAM440 here from Acube-Systems that was donated to me for porting FreeBSD. Any chance of doing the porting to AMCC on a SVN or Perforce branch so that I can play with it? -- Marcel Moolenaar xcllnt@mac.com From dima_bsd at inbox.lv Sat Jan 10 12:17:18 2009 From: dima_bsd at inbox.lv (Dmitriy Demidov) Date: Sat Jan 10 12:17:25 2009 Subject: IBM POWER6 and FreeBSD Message-ID: <200901101357.22449.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> Hi list! I got one IBM Power 550 system to play with =) http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/550/index.html First of all, I make a try to start FreeBSD-CURRENT snapshot installation, but - without success. System (SMS) do not recognizes FreeBSD-ppc nstallation media as bootable. The same with 7.1-RELEASE... I can start Linux SLES 10 installation on this machine - so looks like DVD-ROM is not a problem here. I take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html but do not found information about IBM POWER architecture support, so may be my idea to boot FreeBSD on this system is toooo crazy? :) At this moment system is not partitioned - it do not have PowerVM virtualization enabled. So, I would like to ask - is it possible to start FreeBSD here or not? May be NetBSD will works on this POWER6 system? It is not critical for me - I'm just playing with this system while I have physical access - it is not intendet to be production. Some info from Linux: --- Rescue:/proc # cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : POWER6 (raw), altivec supported clock : 4204.000000MHz revision : 3.2 (pvr 003e 0302) processor : 1 cpu : POWER6 (raw), altivec supported clock : 4204.000000MHz revision : 3.2 (pvr 003e 0302) processor : 2 cpu : POWER6 (raw), altivec supported clock : 4204.000000MHz revision : 3.2 (pvr 003e 0302) processor : 3 cpu : POWER6 (raw), altivec supported clock : 4204.000000MHz revision : 3.2 (pvr 003e 0302) timebase : 512000000 machine : CHRP IBM,8204-E8A --- Rescue:~ # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 7544 142 7402 0 15 89 -/+ buffers/cache: 37 7506 Swap: 0 0 0 --- Rescue:/proc # cat /proc/ppc64/lparcfg lparcfg 1.7 serial_number= system_type=IBM,8204-E8A partition_id=1 R4=0xc8 R5=0x0 R6=0x8001ffff R7=0x1000000000002 BoundThrds=1 CapInc=100 DisWheRotPer=5120000 MinEntCap=100 MinEntCapPerVP=100 MinMem=128 MinProcs=1 partition_max_entitled_capacity=200 system_potential_processors=2 DesEntCap=200 DesMem=7680 DesProcs=2 DesVarCapWt=0 DedDonMode=0 partition_entitled_capacity=200 group=32769 system_active_processors=2 unallocated_capacity_weight=0 capacity_weight=0 capped=1 unallocated_capacity=0 purr=1975715373512 partition_active_processors=2 partition_potential_processors=2 shared_processor_mode=0 --- From raj at semihalf.com Sat Jan 10 14:08:37 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Sat Jan 10 14:15:38 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> Message-ID: <4968ABDF.70207@semihalf.com> Matt Sealey wrote: > Hi Rafal, > > How is the Efika going? Moving forward: we have interrupt controller working, PSC backend for uart(4), getting close to single user operation on the MPC5200. Rafal From raj at semihalf.com Sat Jan 10 14:15:49 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Sat Jan 10 14:16:16 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: <49678C04.1020203@freebsd.org> References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> <49678C04.1020203@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <4968AD90.3050902@semihalf.com> Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > With regard to the EFIKA and other non-Apple things with Open Firmware, > my recent OF infrastructure changes were made in order to support real > mode OF, which I believe Genesi systems use. You'll need one more > uncommitted module to make it work: > //depot/projects/ppc-g5/sys/powerpc/ofw/ofw_real.c. Sure, I think we'll switch to your real mode code at some point when the dust settles; the current OF/SF hacks kinda work and let move forward with more urgent missing items like peripheral drivers etc. Rafal From raj at semihalf.com Sat Jan 10 14:36:05 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Sat Jan 10 14:36:11 2009 Subject: FreeBSD and PPC440/460 In-Reply-To: <74C69EBB-E774-44B3-80C9-4AD1402C233A@mac.com> References: <49676C1F.3060002@semihalf.com> <74C69EBB-E774-44B3-80C9-4AD1402C233A@mac.com> Message-ID: <4968B250.60301@semihalf.com> Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > >> Hi, >> For those interested in FreeBSD running on PPC440/460, here's some first >> breathing of AMCC 460EX :-) >> http://people.freebsd.org/~raj/logs/ppc460.log > > Sweet! I have a SAM440 here from Acube-Systems that was > donated to me for porting FreeBSD. Any chance of doing > the porting to AMCC on a SVN or Perforce branch so that > I can play with it? Let's see. The downside for us of doing development in an external repo duplicates some efforts we have anyways, and is yet another repository, which introduces additional dependencies to manage. Rafal From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Sat Jan 10 09:26:03 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Sat Jan 10 09:26:08 2009 Subject: IBM POWER6 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <200901101357.22449.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> References: <200901101357.22449.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> Message-ID: <4968DACC.1090102@freebsd.org> Dmitriy Demidov wrote: > Hi list! > > I got one IBM Power 550 system to play with =) > http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/550/index.html > > First of all, I make a try to start FreeBSD-CURRENT snapshot installation, > but - without success. System (SMS) do not recognizes FreeBSD-ppc nstallation > media as bootable. The same with 7.1-RELEASE... I can start Linux SLES 10 > installation on this machine - so looks like DVD-ROM is not a problem here. > > I take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html but do not found > information about IBM POWER architecture support, so may be my idea to boot > FreeBSD on this system is toooo crazy? :) > > At this moment system is not partitioned - it do not have PowerVM > virtualization enabled. > > So, I would like to ask - is it possible to start FreeBSD here or not? May be > NetBSD will works on this POWER6 system? > > It is not critical for me - I'm just playing with this system while I have > physical access - it is not intendet to be production. How long do you have this machine for? I'm in the middle of adding support for systems like this in Perforce, but it is still a little raw. Depending on whether the machine supports the 64-bit bridge mode facility, the kernel may at least begin to boot now, but I can't locate a manual for the POWER6 to check. -Nathan From dima_bsd at inbox.lv Sat Jan 10 10:07:37 2009 From: dima_bsd at inbox.lv (Dmitriy Demidov) Date: Sat Jan 10 10:07:43 2009 Subject: IBM POWER6 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4968DACC.1090102@freebsd.org> References: <200901101357.22449.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> <4968DACC.1090102@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <200901102007.32571.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> On Saturday 10 January 2009, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > > How long do you have this machine for? I'm in the middle of adding > support for systems like this in Perforce, but it is still a little raw. > Depending on whether the machine supports the 64-bit bridge mode > facility, the kernel may at least begin to boot now, but I can't locate > a manual for the POWER6 to check. > -Nathan Hi Nathan. It is hard to predict, actually... The last thing that I heard about this IBM Power system is that it will stay in my organization for some time, but it will be sold out in near future. I have a plans for self education in IBM virtualization technologies on this system. Right now it is unpartitioned but I am gonna to split it in LPARS as soon as I got CoD for it. I will be happy to take part and test you Perforce project while I have access to this machine. From torfinn.ingolfsen at broadpark.no Sun Jan 11 06:29:14 2009 From: torfinn.ingolfsen at broadpark.no (Torfinn Ingolfsen) Date: Sun Jan 11 06:29:21 2009 Subject: IBM POWER6 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <4968DACC.1090102@freebsd.org> References: <200901101357.22449.dima_bsd@inbox.lv> <4968DACC.1090102@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090111142911.fdc97fc0.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:28:44 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > How long do you have this machine for? I'm in the middle of adding > support for systems like this in Perforce, but it is still a little > raw. Depending on whether the machine supports the 64-bit bridge mode > facility, the kernel may at least begin to boot now, but I can't > locate a manual for the POWER6 to check. Just thinking: it would be nice if IBM donated a POWER6-based machine to the FreeBSD Project, for development of FreeBSd on this platform. Unless the project already have such machines already. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org Mon Jan 12 03:06:58 2009 From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster) Date: Mon Jan 12 03:08:50 2009 Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <200901121106.n0CB6uQg092085@freefall.freebsd.org> Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a power/121407 ppc [panic] Won't boot up; strange error message. o power/112435 ppc [nexus] [patch] Update nexus children to use ofw_bus f o power/111296 ppc [kernel] [patch] [request] Support IMISS, DLMISS an DS o power/93203 ppc FreeBSD PPC Can't Write to Partitions. 4 problems total. From nse at delfi-konsult.com Mon Jan 12 04:25:43 2009 From: nse at delfi-konsult.com (Niels S. Eliasen) Date: Mon Jan 12 04:25:49 2009 Subject: How to make a remote reboot when system has panic'ed ? Message-ID: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> hi guys Having some issues with the current kernel getting sound and keyboard working (thanks sofar Nathan! ) made me think about how to reboot when the system has panic'ed... remotely ?? ie. a virtual CTRL-OPTION-POWER ? is that possible at all? and at the same time.... How about a automatic reboot after a power- outage ? (the option is available within MacOSX/YDL Linux as well) ?? just rambling .... kind regards nse "Ach, crivens, what a wee snotter....." Quote from "The Wee Free Men" by Terry Pratchett From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Mon Jan 12 06:26:21 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Mon Jan 12 06:26:27 2009 Subject: How to make a remote reboot when system has panic'ed ? In-Reply-To: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> References: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> Message-ID: <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> Niels S. Eliasen wrote: > hi guys > Having some issues with the current kernel getting sound and keyboard > working (thanks sofar Nathan! ) made me think about how to reboot when > the system has panic'ed... remotely ?? > ie. a virtual CTRL-OPTION-POWER ? > is that possible at all? How remotely? During a panic, there is necessarily no network access. Typing reset at the debugger prompt, though, via a serial console or firewire (dcons) will cause a reboot, and the machine with the other end of the console can be connected to the network. > and at the same time.... How about a automatic reboot after a > power-outage ? (the option is available within MacOSX/YDL Linux as well) ?? > just rambling .... See the sysctl dev.pmu.0.server_mode. -Nathan From nse at delfi-konsult.com Mon Jan 12 08:26:56 2009 From: nse at delfi-konsult.com (Niels S. Eliasen) Date: Mon Jan 12 08:27:03 2009 Subject: How to make a remote reboot when system has panic'ed ? In-Reply-To: <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> References: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <92B7CA86-D094-4B68-95AD-B1EEC993214A@delfi-konsult.com> Den 12/01/2009 kl. 15.29 skrev Nathan Whitehorn: > Niels S. Eliasen wrote: >> hi guys >> Having some issues with the current kernel getting sound and >> keyboard working (thanks sofar Nathan! ) made me think about how to >> reboot when the system has panic'ed... remotely ?? >> ie. a virtual CTRL-OPTION-POWER ? >> is that possible at all? > > How remotely? During a panic, there is necessarily no network > access. Typing reset at the debugger prompt, though, via a serial > console or firewire (dcons) will cause a reboot, and the machine > with the other end of the console can be connected to the network. dcons definitely is a possibility.... (never heard about it before though... ;-) ) I do have a "HP Webconsole J3591A" which basically gives me Ethernet to Serial Console capability... I just(sic!) need some "hints/tips/tricks" to get one of the USB ports setup for "dumb" terminal (including obviously OpenFirmware) capability..... (or can the modem port be used for this? probably not.... although it is a software modem only....) BTW: we are talking about a TiBook (400 Mhz).... > > >> and at the same time.... How about a automatic reboot after a power- >> outage ? (the option is available within MacOSX/YDL Linux as well) ?? >> just rambling .... > > See the sysctl dev.pmu.0.server_mode. > -Nathan From FreeBSD at ShaneWare.Biz Mon Jan 12 08:36:02 2009 From: FreeBSD at ShaneWare.Biz (Shane Ambler) Date: Mon Jan 12 08:36:08 2009 Subject: How to make a remote reboot when system has panic'ed ? In-Reply-To: <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> References: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <496B6DD6.3000501@ShaneWare.Biz> Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Niels S. Eliasen wrote: >> hi guys >> Having some issues with the current kernel getting sound and keyboard >> working (thanks sofar Nathan! ) made me think about how to reboot when >> the system has panic'ed... remotely ?? >> ie. a virtual CTRL-OPTION-POWER ? >> is that possible at all? > > How remotely? During a panic, there is necessarily no network access. > Typing reset at the debugger prompt, though, via a serial console or > firewire (dcons) will cause a reboot, and the machine with the other end > of the console can be connected to the network. > >> and at the same time.... How about a automatic reboot after a >> power-outage ? (the option is available within MacOSX/YDL Linux as >> well) ?? >> just rambling .... > > See the sysctl dev.pmu.0.server_mode. > -Nathan May not help - but then it may point your thoughts the right way - Dedicated Hosting services have been known to provide remote access (either web or telnet access) to the UPS powering your server allowing a power cycle as needed. Combined with a remote console access (think second pc with serial port connection to the server in question) allowing single user booting to swap kernels from across the globe. X10 home automation anyone?? -- Shane Ambler FreeBSD (at) ShaneWare (dot) Biz http://ShaneWare.Biz From yanefbsd at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 10:15:39 2009 From: yanefbsd at gmail.com (Garrett Cooper) Date: Mon Jan 12 10:15:46 2009 Subject: How to make a remote reboot when system has panic'ed ? In-Reply-To: <496B6DD6.3000501@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <5C255016-E6FF-4350-82E5-4833C3CD05F5@delfi-konsult.com> <496B53B2.3090604@freebsd.org> <496B6DD6.3000501@ShaneWare.Biz> Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0901121015q75b2d85fw4b9b58a4edca09b7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Shane Ambler wrote: > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> >> Niels S. Eliasen wrote: >>> >>> hi guys >>> Having some issues with the current kernel getting sound and keyboard >>> working (thanks sofar Nathan! ) made me think about how to reboot when the >>> system has panic'ed... remotely ?? >>> ie. a virtual CTRL-OPTION-POWER ? >>> is that possible at all? >> >> How remotely? During a panic, there is necessarily no network access. >> Typing reset at the debugger prompt, though, via a serial console or >> firewire (dcons) will cause a reboot, and the machine with the other end of >> the console can be connected to the network. >> >>> and at the same time.... How about a automatic reboot after a >>> power-outage ? (the option is available within MacOSX/YDL Linux as well) ?? >>> just rambling .... >> >> See the sysctl dev.pmu.0.server_mode. >> -Nathan > > May not help - but then it may point your thoughts the right way - > > Dedicated Hosting services have been known to provide remote access (either > web or telnet access) to the UPS powering your server allowing a power cycle > as needed. Combined with a remote console access (think second pc with > serial port connection to the server in question) allowing single user > booting to swap kernels from across the globe. > > X10 home automation anyone?? >From my kernel config file: # Debugging for use in -current options KDB # Enable kernel debugger support. options KDB_UNATTENDED # I don't want to be here when stuff crashes.. >From /etc/sysctl.conf: debug.debugger_on_panic=0 Cheers, -Garrett From tinderbox at freebsd.org Mon Jan 12 16:31:21 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Mon Jan 12 16:31:28 2009 Subject: [releng_7 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090113003117.9E9131B5060@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:06 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:06 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:06 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:27 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:27 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/RELENG_7/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - building world TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-12 23:22:37 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Mon Jan 12 23:22:39 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> World build completed on Tue Jan 13 00:27:57 UTC 2009 TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - building LINT kernel TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-13 00:27:57 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Tue Jan 13 00:27:58 UTC 2009 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] awk -f /src/sys/tools/makeobjops.awk /src/sys/dev/ata/ata_if.m -c ; cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror ata_if.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-all.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-card.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c: In function 'ata_marvell_ident': /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:2558: error: 'MV_61XX' undeclared (first use in this function) /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:2558: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c:2558: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-13 00:31:16 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-13 00:31:16 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2009-01-13 00:31:16 - 3493.72 user 348.45 system 4150.61 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-releng_7-RELENG_7-powerpc-powerpc.full From nse at delfi-konsult.com Wed Jan 14 08:48:41 2009 From: nse at delfi-konsult.com (Niels S. Eliasen) Date: Wed Jan 14 08:48:48 2009 Subject: panic in stwu ?? Message-ID: <5B4366E7-359B-4204-AA43-74158156F344@delfi-konsult.com> hi guys anyone seen this panic before? [thread pid 9 tid 100034 ] Stopped at 0x100444:: stwu r31, r1, -0xb0 db> This is CURRENT, while doing a "make buildworld" .... (no bt possible, ie. keyboard not responding.....) kind regards nse "Ach, crivens, what a wee snotter....." Quote from "The Wee Free Men" by Terry Pratchett From grehan at freebsd.org Wed Jan 14 10:08:49 2009 From: grehan at freebsd.org (Peter Grehan) Date: Wed Jan 14 10:09:30 2009 Subject: panic in stwu ?? Message-ID: <20090115040805.EOF09853@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Hi Niels, >anyone seen this panic before? > >[thread pid 9 tid 100034 ] >Stopped at 0x100444:: stwu r31, r1, -0xb0 >db> > >This is CURRENT, while doing a "make buildworld" .... Any panic message just before that ? Would you be able to do a 'nm /boot/kernel/kernel | sort | grep ^1004'. This should show what routine this code is in. later, Peter. From nse at delfi-konsult.com Wed Jan 14 13:44:05 2009 From: nse at delfi-konsult.com (Niels S. Eliasen) Date: Wed Jan 14 13:44:16 2009 Subject: panic in stwu ?? In-Reply-To: <20090115040805.EOF09853@dommail.onthenet.com.au> References: <20090115040805.EOF09853@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Peter This is what I get: > munin,nse,/boot/kernel > nm /boot/kernel/kernel | sort | grep '1004' > 0010041c t k_trap > 005a1004 D vop_rename_desc strange... but the problem did not appear in 7.1-RC2... only after going to CURRENT have I seen this.... Den 14/01/2009 kl. 19.08 skrev Peter Grehan: > Hi Niels, > >> anyone seen this panic before? >> >> [thread pid 9 tid 100034 ] >> Stopped at 0x100444:: stwu r31, r1, -0xb0 >> db> >> >> This is CURRENT, while doing a "make buildworld" .... > > Any panic message just before that ? > > Would you be able to do a 'nm /boot/kernel/kernel | sort | > grep ^1004'. This should show what routine this code is in. > > later, > > Peter. kind regards nse "Ach, crivens, what a wee snotter....." Quote from "The Wee Free Men" by Terry Pratchett From nick at nickwithers.com Wed Jan 14 18:16:55 2009 From: nick at nickwithers.com (Nick Withers) Date: Wed Jan 14 18:17:02 2009 Subject: ATA DMA status? Message-ID: <1231984694.89155.14.camel@localhost> Hi guys, Sorry to hassle, but how's the ATA DMA stuff (original CFT: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-September/003054.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-October/003187.html, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-October/003314.html, for instance) going? According to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/powerpc/powermac/ata_dbdma.c (I'm still clinging on to CVS :-)) the MFC's been behind for a while - does this indicate there're still big problems? I've only got the one G4 box on 7-STABLE and am somewhat reluctant to test anything too "alpha" on it... If I were to test it out on 7-STABLE, though, do I still just need the http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/apple-ata-dma.patch patch (it seems outdated, e.g., not including the changes from the latest rev (184429 / CVS 1.2) to ata_dbdma.c)? Is http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/kauai.marcel.patch applicable? Thanks very much all, I'm looking forward to having DMA! -- Nick Withers email: nick@nickwithers.com Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/attachments/20090115/d3bc7bba/attachment.pgp From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Wed Jan 14 18:38:06 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Wed Jan 14 18:38:12 2009 Subject: ATA DMA status? In-Reply-To: <1231984694.89155.14.camel@localhost> References: <1231984694.89155.14.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <496EA237.8010401@freebsd.org> Nick Withers wrote: > Hi guys, > > Sorry to hassle, but how's the ATA DMA stuff (original CFT: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-September/003054.html and http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-October/003187.html, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/2008-October/003314.html, for instance) going? > > According to > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/powerpc/powermac/ata_dbdma.c (I'm still clinging on to CVS :-)) the MFC's been behind for a while - does this indicate there're still big problems? I've only got the one G4 box on 7-STABLE and am somewhat reluctant to test anything too "alpha" on it... > > If I were to test it out on 7-STABLE, though, do I still just need the > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/apple-ata-dma.patch patch (it > seems outdated, e.g., not including the changes from the latest rev > (184429 / CVS 1.2) to ata_dbdma.c)? Is > http://people.freebsd.org/~nwhitehorn/kauai.marcel.patch applicable? > > Thanks very much all, I'm looking forward to having DMA! I've held off on the MFC due to insufficient testing. I have at least one report (from Marcel) that it can cause problems with the CD drive on certain models of Mac Mini. There have also been some vague reports of poorly defined other problems, so I have been hesitant to declare the DMA code working. On the other hand, there are no really serious problems (e.g. data corruption) that I have heard about. If you want to test on 7, you should just be able to grab the current revisions of powermac/ata* from -CURRENT and replace the 7.1 versions with them. If it causes problems, you can roll back to the old kernel, though please report them first. I'd also appreciate success reports -- if I get enough, I'll go ahead and MFC the changes. -Nathan From grehan at freebsd.org Thu Jan 15 14:01:20 2009 From: grehan at freebsd.org (Peter Grehan) Date: Thu Jan 15 14:01:26 2009 Subject: panic in stwu ?? Message-ID: <20090116080037.EOG19136@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Hi Niels, >>> [thread pid 9 tid 100034 ] >>> Stopped at 0x100444:: stwu r31, r1, -0xb0 It looks like a stack overflow :( This instruction is bumping the stack and storing a value into it, and the stack pointer is probably hitting a guard page. These aren't handled very well, other than dropping directly into the debugger without any message. A possible workaround is to bump up the number of pages allocated for kernel stacks. Drop this into your config file: options KSTACK_MAX_PAGES=5 (the default is 4, and keep going up 'til no overflows are seen). later, Peter. From nick at nickwithers.com Sat Jan 17 21:18:45 2009 From: nick at nickwithers.com (Nick Withers) Date: Sat Jan 17 21:18:52 2009 Subject: Fatal kernel trap - "data storage interrupt" - on recent 7-STABLE Message-ID: <1232255895.67062.27.camel@localhost> Hi all, My lofty plans for testing PPC ATA DMA have been thwarted somewhat by my bringing my G4 box from 7-STABLE / 7.1-PRERELEASE as of around the 2008-11-26 to 7-STABLE of around the 2009-01-15, where I'm now seeing, after a few hours of uptime (transcribed from the screen): ____ fatal kernel trap: exception = 0x3 (data storage interrupt) virtual address = 0x4200009c srr0 = 0x2175b0 srr1 = 0x9032 curthread = 0x1deed20 pid = 40264, comm = find [thread pid 40264 tid 100126 ] Stopped at 0x2175b0: lwarx r10, r0, r9, db> ____ I've had it twice now (I've been off-site a lot, sure I could've had it more often if I were quicker rebooting the thing), with only the thread information changing on the second - same exception, virtual address, srr0 and srr1. The keyboard is non-responsive at this point and I have to hard reset it. I've just switched back to running the old (i.e, November 2008 7-STABLE) kernel and am expecting not to see it again... Boot dmesg: ____ Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Thu Jan 15 23:32:53 EST 2009 nick@internal.shmon.net:/usr/obj/usr/RELENG_7/src/sys/INTERNAL module_register: module uhub/ugen already exists! Module uhub/ugen failed to register: 17 cpu0: Motorola PowerPC 7400 revision 2.8, 400.00 MHz cpu0: HID0 8094c0a4 real memory = 393060352 (374 MB) avail memory = 378433536 (360 MB) kbd0 at kbdmux0 nexus0: unin0: on nexus0 unin0: Version 8 pcib0: on nexus0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0x400-0x4ff mem 0x94000000-0x97ffffff,0x90000000-0x90003fff irq 48 at device 16.0 on pci0 pcib1: on nexus0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 13.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 macio0: mem 0x80000000-0x8007ffff at device 7.0 on pci2 openpic0: mem 0x40000-0x7ffff on macio0 ata0 mem 0x1f000-0x1ffff,0x8a00-0x8aff irq 19,11 on macio0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1 mem 0x20000-0x20fff,0x8b00-0x8bff irq 20,12 on macio0 ata1: [ITHREAD] ata2 mem 0x21000-0x21fff,0x8c00-0x8cff irq 21,13 on macio0 ata2: [ITHREAD] ohci0: mem 0x80082000-0x80082fff irq 27 at device 8.0 on pci2 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: OHCI version 1.0 usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ohci1: mem 0x80081000-0x80081fff irq 28 at device 9.0 on pci2 ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ohci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: OHCI version 1.0 usb1: on ohci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci2: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) pcib3: on nexus0 pci3: on pcib3 gem0: mem 0xf5200000-0xf53fffff irq 41 at device 15.0 on pci3 miibus0: on gem0 brgphy0: PHY 0 on miibus0 brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto gem0: 10kB RX FIFO, 4kB TX FIFO gem0: Ethernet address: 00:30:65:a8:02:3a gem0: [ITHREAD] sc0: on nexus0 sc0: Unknown <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> ugen0: on uhub0 uhub2: on uhub1 uhub2: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ukbd0: on uhub2 kbd1 at ukbd0 uhid0: on uhub2 Timecounter "decrementer" frequency 24907667 Hz quality 0 Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, nat loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 200 packets/entry by default ad0: 19569MB at ata0-master BIOSPIO ad1: 76319MB at ata0-slave BIOSPIO GEOM: ad1: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: ad1: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Root mount waiting for: GMIRROR Root mount waiting for: GMIRROR Root mount waiting for: GMIRROR Root mount waiting for: GMIRROR GEOM_MIRROR: Force device gm0 start due to timeout. GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (1/2). GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4 WARNING: / was not properly dismounted WARNING: /tmp was not properly dismounted WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted /usr: mount pending error: blocks 16 files 1 WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted WARNING: /data was not properly dismounted ____ I'm not much of a kernel debugger, I'm afraid... I'm sure I've seen information on how to translate kernel addresses into the location of the code in the kernel but am doing a poor job of digging it up. Anyone able to give me a pointer or two? 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I'm sure I've seen > information on how to translate kernel addresses into the location of > the code in the kernel but am doing a poor job of digging it up. Hmmm... Is the following useful? ____ %nm /boot/kernel/kernel | sort | grep ^0021 0021008c t modlist_lookup2 0021016c T linker_ctf_get 002101f4 T linker_file_function_listall 0021028c t linker_debug_search_symbol 002103f4 T linker_ddb_search_symbol 00210424 t linker_debug_symbol_values 002104f4 T linker_ddb_symbol_values 00210524 t modlist_newmodule 002105cc t linker_addmodules 002106a0 t linker_file_add_dependency 00210768 t sysctl_kern_function_list_iterate 002107d0 t linker_lookup_file 00210b08 t linker_strdup 00210b74 t linker_basename 00210bd8 t linker_find_file_by_name 00210ca4 t linker_debug_search_symbol_name 00210d34 T linker_ddb_search_symbol_name 00210d64 T linker_make_file 00210ed0 T linker_add_class 00210f5c t sysctl_kern_function_list 0021117c T kldfirstmod 0021137c T kldstat 002115c8 T kldnext 0021173c T linker_file_foreach 00211880 T kldfind 00211a04 T linker_search_symbol_name 00211b30 T linker_file_lookup_set 00211cd0 t linker_file_register_modules 00211df4 t linker_init_kernel_modules 00211e2c t linker_file_register_sysctls 00211f58 T linker_file_unload 00212604 t linker_preload 00212d28 T kern_kldunload 00212edc T kldunloadf 00212f28 T kldunload 00212f60 T linker_release_module 00213104 t linker_load_module 00213dc4 T linker_load_dependencies 00214010 T kern_kldload 002141c4 T kldload 00214280 T linker_reference_module 00214438 t linker_file_lookup_symbol_internal 0021463c T linker_file_lookup_symbol 00214788 T linker_ddb_lookup 00214858 T kldsym 00214bf8 t unlock_lockmgr 00214c18 t lock_lockmgr 00214c38 t db_show_lockmgr 00214d18 T lockmgr_chain 00214e34 T lockmgr_printinfo 00214ed0 T lockdestroy 00214f00 T lockinit 00214fc0 t acquire 002151b8 T lockwaiters 002152b0 T lockcount 002153b4 T lockstatus 00215514 T transferlockers 002156ac T _lockmgr 00216070 t lf_blocks 00216114 t lf_insert_lock 002161bc t lf_getblock 00216288 t graph_add_indices 00216354 t graph_assign_indices 00216408 t lf_init 00216500 t lf_clearremotesys_iterator 00216568 t lf_remove_edge 002166a8 t lf_remove_incoming 002166fc t lf_remove_outgoing 00216750 t lf_alloc_vertex 00216870 t lf_add_edge 00216cb4 t lf_add_incoming 00216d50 t lf_alloc_lock 00216e78 T lf_countlocks 00216fbc T lf_iteratelocks_vnode 0021724c t lf_free_lock 00217570 T lf_purgelocks 00217ad8 T lf_iteratelocks_sysid 00217e44 T lf_clearremotesys 00217e80 t lf_update_dependancies 0021808c t lf_set_end 002180cc t lf_set_start 00218164 t lf_activate_lock 002185d0 t lf_cancel_lock 00218754 T lf_advlockasync 00219b24 T lf_advlock 00219b8c T malloc_last_fail 00219bbc t kmeminit 00219e60 t db_show_malloc 00219f58 T malloc_desc2type 00219fcc T malloc_type_freed 0021a06c t malloc_type_zone_allocated 0021a154 T malloc_type_allocated 0021a190 T malloc 0021a2b4 T malloc_init 0021a3d8 T free 0021a4bc T malloc_type_list 0021a754 t sysctl_kern_malloc_stats 0021abdc T realloc 0021ad24 T reallocf 0021ad8c T malloc_uninit 0021af70 t mb_ctor_mbuf 0021aff4 t mb_dtor_clust 0021b010 t mb_ctor_pack 0021b084 t mb_reclaim 0021b110 t tunable_mbinit 0021b194 t sysctl_nmbjumbo16 0021b238 t sysctl_nmbjumbo9 0021b2dc t sysctl_nmbjumbop 0021b380 t mbuf_init 0021b64c t mbuf_jumbo_free 0021b684 t mbuf_jumbo_alloc 0021b6dc t mb_zfini_pack 0021b71c t mb_zinit_pack 0021b78c t mb_dtor_mbuf 0021b7d4 t mb_dtor_pack 0021b834 t mb_ctor_clust 0021b94c t sysctl_nmbclusters 0021bb7c t sysctl_hw_usermem 0021bbd0 t sysctl_hw_realmem 0021bc18 t sysctl_hw_physmem 0021bc60 t sysctl_kern_arnd 0021bce4 t sysctl_hostname 0021bf24 t sysctl_kern_securelvl 0021c274 t modevent_nop 0021c2b8 T module_reference 0021c2e0 T module_lookupbyid 0021c338 T module_getid 0021c358 T module_getfnext 0021c378 T module_setspecific 0021c39c T module_file 0021c3bc t module_init 0021c440 T module_lookupbyname 0021c4b4 T module_unload 0021c60c T module_release 0021c7a0 T module_register 0021ca74 t module_shutdown 0021cc5c T modfind 0021cda4 T modstat 0021d014 T modfnext 0021d168 T modnext 0021d2e8 T module_register_init 0021d5d8 T mtx_pool_find 0021d61c T mtx_pool_alloc 0021d65c t mtx_pool_initialize 0021d734 t mtx_pool_setup_static 0021d790 T mtx_pool_destroy 0021d818 T mtx_pool_create 0021d8c4 t mtx_pool_setup_dynamic 0021d90c t unlock_spin 0021d92c t lock_spin 0021d94c t db_show_mtx 0021daf4 T thread_lock_set 0021db54 T thread_lock_unblock 0021db8c T _mtx_unlock_spin_flags 0021dbe0 T mtx_init 0021dc88 T mtx_sysinit 0021dccc T _mtx_unlock_sleep 0021dd84 t unlock_mtx 0021de04 T thread_lock_block 0021de88 T _mtx_lock_sleep 0021dfbc t lock_mtx 0021e038 T mtx_destroy 0021e0d8 T _mtx_lock_spin_flags 0021e148 T mutex_init 0021e280 T _thread_lock_flags 0021e494 T _mtx_trylock 0021e55c T _mtx_lock_flags 0021e5f4 T _mtx_unlock_flags 0021e678 T ntp_update_second 0021e9f0 t ntp_init 0021ea2c t hardupdate 0021ee04 t ntp_gettime1 0021eec4 t ntp_sysctl 0021ef30 T kern_adjtime 0021f190 T adjtime 0021f238 T ntp_gettime 0021f34c T ntp_adjtime 0021f8d8 T physio 0021fdb4 T pmc_cpu_is_disabled 0021fdd4 T pmc_cpu_is_logical 0021fdf4 T priv_check_cred 0021fe94 T suser_cred 0021fecc T suser 0021ff04 T priv_check 0021ff3c T pargs_hold 0021ff78 t pgrpdump %kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 8 0x100000 4a2d2c kernel 2 1 0x5a3000 2dabc geom_mirror.ko 3 1 0x5d1000 167f8 ugen.ko 4 1 0xd07a4000 15000 nullfs.ko 5 1 0xd07bc000 26000 nfslockd.ko 6 1 0xd07e2000 5c000 nfsclient.ko 7 1 0xd0846000 27000 krpc.ko ____ > Anyone able to give me a pointer or two? > > Thanks! -- Nick Withers email: nick@nickwithers.com Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From marcotrillo at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 01:51:32 2009 From: marcotrillo at gmail.com (Marco Trillo) Date: Mon Jan 19 01:51:39 2009 Subject: IMac G3 Partition In-Reply-To: <21537032.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <21537032.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:01 AM, blubaustin wrote: > > Hi, I have an IMac G3 600Mhz, 512mb Ram, 40GB hd, Ati Rage 128 Ultra Pro > 16mb. I was wondering how do I pre-partition the hard drive for freebsd? > read that it has to be prepartioned because FDISK doesn't work. I tried > using pdisk on NETBSD, and got it partitoned but I got stuck when I had to > create an FSTAB since... There are various options available: - If you use NetBSD's pdisk tool, you simply need to create some partitions for FreeBSD (for example with type Apple_UNIX_SVR2). You do not need to create filesystems from NetBSD or to create an fstab file in NetBSD -- the FreeBSD installer does all of this. When you boot the FreeBSD installer you can select the newly created partitions to install FreeBSD. - If you have Mac OS 9 or Mac OS X installation media, you can use "Drive Setup" (for Mac OS 9) or "Disk Utility" (for Mac OS X). With these tools you can create the partitions. Any partition type can be used (HFS, UFS, etc.), as FreeBSD doesn't care about the type and will reformat them with its own filesystem. However the "Drive Setup" tool is more flexible and will allow to select the "A/UX" partition type (equivalent to Apple_UNIX_SVR2 in pdisk), which can be used to avoid Mac OS messing with the FreeBSD partitions . Hope that helps Marco From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org Mon Jan 19 03:07:04 2009 From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster) Date: Mon Jan 19 03:08:42 2009 Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <200901191107.n0JB72Ho063059@freefall.freebsd.org> Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a power/121407 ppc [panic] Won't boot up; strange error message. o power/112435 ppc [nexus] [patch] Update nexus children to use ofw_bus f o power/111296 ppc [kernel] [patch] [request] Support IMISS, DLMISS an DS o power/93203 ppc FreeBSD PPC Can't Write to Partitions. 4 problems total. From Daan at vehosting.nl Mon Jan 19 03:59:57 2009 From: Daan at vehosting.nl (Daan Vreeken) Date: Mon Jan 19 04:00:09 2009 Subject: PowerPC embedded board? Message-ID: <200901191259.50518.Daan@vehosting.nl> Hi all, For a new product I am looking for an embedded powerpc board. For the project we need the following : o A board that can (in the near future) boot FreeBSD. o Support for hardware floating point arithmetic. o The board should have some form of bus / IO to connect custom-made peripheral(s) to. Searching the internet I've already stumbled upon the Efika [1] and SAM440 [2] boards, which both look promising, but as far as my Google-skills go, it looks like both boards need more work to get FreeBSD fully functional on them. I'm thinking of buying a couple of boards and helping an interested developer by either setting up a compile & test environment that is accessible over ssh, or donating an entire board (or both :) So I've got some questions : o Are there more interresting boards I could/should consider? (Or even boards that can already run FreeBSD?) o What board is most likely to grow FreeBSD support in the near future? o What parts are currently missing to get these boards up and running? 1: http://www.efika.de/index_en.html , http://www.directron.com/efikakit1.html 2: http://sam440.com/eng/sam440ep-flex.html Kind regards, -- Daan Vreeken VEHosting http://VEHosting.nl tel: +31-(0)40-7113050 / +31-(0)6-46210825 KvK nr: 17174380 From raj at semihalf.com Mon Jan 19 05:30:05 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Mon Jan 19 05:30:20 2009 Subject: PowerPC embedded board? In-Reply-To: <200901191259.50518.Daan@vehosting.nl> References: <200901191259.50518.Daan@vehosting.nl> Message-ID: <49747ABA.9090606@semihalf.com> Daan Vreeken wrote: > For a new product I am looking for an embedded powerpc board. For the project > we need the following : > o A board that can (in the near future) boot FreeBSD. > o Support for hardware floating point arithmetic. > o The board should have some form of bus / IO to connect custom-made > peripheral(s) to. Other than what you alrady pointed out, what is the overall profile of this deployment i.e. what level of horse power do you need, networking throughput etc.? > Searching the internet I've already stumbled upon the Efika [1] and SAM440 [2] > boards, which both look promising, but as far as my Google-skills go, it > looks like both boards need more work to get FreeBSD fully functional on > them. > I'm thinking of buying a couple of boards and helping an interested developer > by either setting up a compile & test environment that is accessible over > ssh, or donating an entire board (or both :) Both MPC5200 (Efika) and PPC440 (SAM440 and others) require quite a bit of work to turn into a reliable system to be used in a commercial product. They are both at a very similar stage: the kernel initially boots, interrupt controller driver ready, console (UART), work is in progress towards getting user-space pieces together, getting single user shell etc. In both cases virtually all remaining on-chip peripherals need respective drivers newly developed. > So I've got some questions : > o Are there more interresting boards I could/should consider? (Or even boards > that can already run FreeBSD?) > o What board is most likely to grow FreeBSD support in the near future? > o What parts are currently missing to get these boards up and running? Ready to use and stable is the port for higher-end PowerPC systems: PowerQUICC MPC85xx series based on the E500 (BookE) core. You'll find all integrated peripherals supported, although the default environment with regards to the floating point support is running with emulation and not native hard-floats (due to various implemetations of the FPU, or the lack of). Rafal From Daan at vehosting.nl Mon Jan 19 07:18:13 2009 From: Daan at vehosting.nl (Daan Vreeken) Date: Mon Jan 19 07:18:45 2009 Subject: PowerPC embedded board? In-Reply-To: <49747ABA.9090606@semihalf.com> References: <200901191259.50518.Daan@vehosting.nl> <49747ABA.9090606@semihalf.com> Message-ID: <200901191618.06297.Daan@vehosting.nl> Hi Rafal, On Monday 19 January 2009 14:06:02 Rafal Jaworowski wrote: > Daan Vreeken wrote: > > For a new product I am looking for an embedded powerpc board. For the > > project we need the following : > > o A board that can (in the near future) boot FreeBSD. > > o Support for hardware floating point arithmetic. > > o The board should have some form of bus / IO to connect custom-made > > peripheral(s) to. > > Other than what you alrady pointed out, what is the overall profile of this > deployment i.e. what level of horse power do you need, networking > throughput etc.? The processor will be used for coordinate transformations in a real-time position control system. We only need a small amount of memory. A network interface would be very nice to have, but it's only used for live debugging and to update software/firmware, so I could live without if needed. What I really need, is a processor that can do a fair amount sine / cosine's per second. I've done some tests with Linux on an MPC5200 board running at 400MHz. ( http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MPC5200 ) The processor has more than enough processing power to run our code, but I'm looking for a (preferably cheap) alternative that can run FreeBSD (with some help). > > Searching the internet I've already stumbled upon the Efika [1] and > > SAM440 [2] boards, which both look promising, but as far as my > > Google-skills go, it looks like both boards need more work to get FreeBSD > > fully functional on them. > > I'm thinking of buying a couple of boards and helping an interested > > developer by either setting up a compile & test environment that is > > accessible over ssh, or donating an entire board (or both :) > > Both MPC5200 (Efika) and PPC440 (SAM440 and others) require quite a bit of > work to turn into a reliable system to be used in a commercial product. > They are both at a very similar stage: the kernel initially boots, > interrupt controller driver ready, console (UART), work is in progress > towards getting user-space pieces together, getting single user shell etc. > In both cases virtually all remaining on-chip peripherals need respective > drivers newly developed. Given enough hardware documentation, I have no problem with writing a couple of drivers. The thing I'm not familiar with, is the lower level development of getting a new platform to run FreeBSD. (I have never touched FreeBSD's VM subsystem for example.) What would be needed to get either of these boards to a single user shell? > > So I've got some questions : > > o Are there more interresting boards I could/should consider? (Or even > > boards that can already run FreeBSD?) > > o What board is most likely to grow FreeBSD support in the near future? > > o What parts are currently missing to get these boards up and running? > > Ready to use and stable is the port for higher-end PowerPC systems: > PowerQUICC MPC85xx series based on the E500 (BookE) core. You'll find all > integrated peripherals supported, although the default environment with > regards to the floating point support is running with emulation and not > native hard-floats (due to various implemetations of the FPU, or the lack > of). What would be needed to get hardware floating point to be supported? Is it something that could be imported from NetBSD? Thanks, -- Daan Vreeken VEHosting http://VEHosting.nl tel: +31-(0)40-7113050 / +31-(0)6-46210825 KvK nr: 17174380 From raj at semihalf.com Mon Jan 19 08:33:22 2009 From: raj at semihalf.com (Rafal Jaworowski) Date: Mon Jan 19 08:33:35 2009 Subject: PowerPC embedded board? In-Reply-To: <200901191618.06297.Daan@vehosting.nl> References: <200901191259.50518.Daan@vehosting.nl> <49747ABA.9090606@semihalf.com> <200901191618.06297.Daan@vehosting.nl> Message-ID: <4974AB4D.9040204@semihalf.com> Hi Daan, Daan Vreeken wrote: >>> Searching the internet I've already stumbled upon the Efika [1] and >>> SAM440 [2] boards, which both look promising, but as far as my >>> Google-skills go, it looks like both boards need more work to get FreeBSD >>> fully functional on them. >>> I'm thinking of buying a couple of boards and helping an interested >>> developer by either setting up a compile & test environment that is >>> accessible over ssh, or donating an entire board (or both :) >> Both MPC5200 (Efika) and PPC440 (SAM440 and others) require quite a bit of >> work to turn into a reliable system to be used in a commercial product. >> They are both at a very similar stage: the kernel initially boots, >> interrupt controller driver ready, console (UART), work is in progress >> towards getting user-space pieces together, getting single user shell etc. >> In both cases virtually all remaining on-chip peripherals need respective >> drivers newly developed. > > Given enough hardware documentation, I have no problem with writing a couple > of drivers. The thing I'm not familiar with, is the lower level development > of getting a new platform to run FreeBSD. (I have never touched FreeBSD's VM > subsystem for example.) > What would be needed to get either of these boards to a single user shell? We're almost there with regards to running from ramdisk based mini-root fs. In case of a more elaborate (full) environment you'd need some kind of storage for the root fs: 1. MPC5200 - built-in ATA controller (getting this to work with DMA will be painful as relies on bringing operation to the microcode-based BestComm engine first) - built-in USB (OHCI), should be relatively easy, with a bit of luck only bus attachment is required 2. 440EP - no integrated S/ATA, the SAM board you mentioned has some external Silicon Image controller, so a driver would be needed for that - built-in USB (not sure if this has any standard host I/F implementation though) >>> So I've got some questions : >>> o Are there more interresting boards I could/should consider? (Or even >>> boards that can already run FreeBSD?) >>> o What board is most likely to grow FreeBSD support in the near future? >>> o What parts are currently missing to get these boards up and running? >> Ready to use and stable is the port for higher-end PowerPC systems: >> PowerQUICC MPC85xx series based on the E500 (BookE) core. You'll find all >> integrated peripherals supported, although the default environment with >> regards to the floating point support is running with emulation and not >> native hard-floats (due to various implemetations of the FPU, or the lack >> of). > > What would be needed to get hardware floating point to be supported? Is it > something that could be imported from NetBSD? Note we're talking about hard-floats for Book-E systems, which are very different from the traditional PowerPC FPU. Since NetBSD doesn't have support for any Book-E system, so it wouldn't be of direct help I think. There are at least two ways to support this: - gcc level - newer gcc (4.2.x IIRC) are able to produce machine code for native E500 FP - interface libc with native E500 FP Neither should be enormously difficult, so let me know if you'd like to work on this :-) The problem is in varieties: some Book-E cores don't have the FP APU and from the FreeBSD/powerpc project perspective we'd need something flexible and uniform enough so that different core variations still work (not to mention the traditional, AIM, PowerPC FPU..). Rafal From drosih at rpi.edu Mon Jan 19 16:14:41 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Mon Jan 19 16:14:48 2009 Subject: Best options for disk-formatting on PowerPC? (mac-mini) Message-ID: It's so rare that I have to partition a disk that I'm pretty sure my knowledge is out-of-date, especially on PowerPC. The last time I did any disk partitioning on PowerPC was back in early 2005! If I go to http://www.FreeBSD.org/platforms/ppc.html for advice, the "How can I install FreeBSD/ppc" section says "Please follow the instructions ", where "" is: http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt That, in turn, is the ISO_INSTALL.txt file from 6.0-RELEASE, a page which is also linked to from: http://wiki.freebsd.org//powerpc None of these say much about partitioning. What I have is a new-to-me MacMini, with a brand new disk in it, and nothing installed on that disk. I also have an external FW drive which has all the freebsd filesystems from my other Mac-Mini install. I've just updated the system on that drive so it is the up-to-date version of FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE. What I want to end up with is the new internal disk with two bootable MacOS partitions, two OFW-bootable partitions (one for 7.x, one for 8.x), one swap partition, and a few other filesystems for freebsd. Since I want bootable partitions, as far as Apple is concerned the disk has to be partitioned as "Apple Partition Map". Once I create the freebsd partitions, I'd want to use dump/restore to copy the partitions from the older firedrive to the internal HD on the newer Mac-Mini. If I start with Apple's "Disk Utility" app for the first cut at partitioning, I can use the version on MacOS 10.4 or 10.5. The last time I did this, I used the 10.4 version to create a few unix volumes. I notice that if I use the 10.5 version of that Apple utility, there is no option for unix-formatted volumes. So I took the new mac-mini and booted it into firewire target mode. I hooked that and my other firewire disk up to the older mac mini, and booted that Mac-mini into MacOS 10.4. = = = = = = = = = = = = And here I am, about 12 attempts later, and I still haven't gotten the freebsd partitions from the external FW disk to the new internal disk. I did a number of things that seemed plausible, and while MacOS was always happy with the disk in the new Mac-Mini, I could never get sysinstall on my 7.x FreeBSD system to see that disk, or any of the volumes that Disk Utility created on that disk. I'm still plugging away at my latest attempt, but I thought that maybe I should ask if there is some standard strategy that I should be following. Or might there be a problem with having two firewire disks connected at the same time? Or might there be a problem with freebsd talking to a "firewire disk" which is really some other Mac in FW Target mode? I've started to write a request for help in the middle of each of my other attempts, and kept stopping myself when I thought of "just one more thing" I should try before asking. I think I'm going to send this one out while I'm waiting for my latest MacOS install to finish, and follow up with more details if my latest idea doesn't work. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Mon Jan 19 16:23:24 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Mon Jan 19 16:23:30 2009 Subject: ADB mouse fixup In-Reply-To: <20081102184335.GT1165@hoeg.nl> References: <20081102171754.GS1165@hoeg.nl> <490DE209.4020109@freebsd.org> <20081102184335.GT1165@hoeg.nl> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Ed Schouten wrote: > * Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >> That is really strange. As it happens, the code currently there for high >> buttons is to handle an external ALPS Glidepoint touchpad I have with 3 >> buttons that gives button events on buttons 1,2, and 4. The rest of my >> hardware behaves correctly, and the ALPS device reports itself as a >> mouse, not a trackpad, so I think the patch is fine. Crazy Apple >> hardware... > > Yeah, it is pretty strange. Though I think we may find this useful in > the future. Each time you use the touch pad, it reports button 5 events. > I suspect that when you use two fingers (not supported by my model) it > returns a different button, though I can't confirm. > > I see there's also another small issue with my touch pad. For some > reason X11 doesn't process any click events if I don't move the pointer > after I've clicked/released the button. I'll investigate. > You might want to look at the NetBSD ams driver. It sends a bunch of magic packets to initialize trackpads. Maybe there is something in there that could solve it? Also, the P4 bwi driver seems to work well on PPC. I'm typing this over my wireless connection on my G4 iBook right now. -Nathan From drosih at rpi.edu Mon Jan 19 21:14:37 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Mon Jan 19 21:14:43 2009 Subject: Best options for disk-formatting on PowerPC? (mac-mini) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 6:13 PM -0500 1/19/09, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >What I have is a new-to-me MacMini, with a brand new disk in it, and >nothing installed on that disk. I also have an external FW drive >which has all the freebsd filesystems from my other Mac-Mini install. >I've just updated the system on that drive so it is the up-to-date >version of FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE. >So I took the new mac-mini and booted it into firewire target mode. >I hooked that and my other firewire disk up to the older mac mini, >and booted that Mac-mini into MacOS 10.4. Well, I've made some progress, but I still don't understand all of what went on. At this point I'm pretty tired out after spending most of the weekend on it, so this won't cover all the details. At the end, you'll see that I do have it booting, but there's some things it would be nice to fix (if possible!). Older mini: PPC 1.42 GHz Newer mini: PPC 1.50 GHz (with brand new empty HD) External disk: One of those combination disk/FW-hub/USB-hub things which is the same size and shape as a Mac Mini. All freebsd partitions (except swap) were on the external FW drive. It has 6.x and 7.x systems. It seemed the easiest way to get things from the old MM and the HD to the new MM was to put the new MM into FW target mode, and then connect the hub to the old MM, and the new MM to the hub. So I did, and booted up 10.4. wbich was installed on the old MM. First I partitioned the new disk to have several unix partitions, with two MacOS partitions at the end of the disk. I then booted into 7.x, and the FW disk in the hub had moved from device "da0*" to "da1*" (due to the new MM being "da0*". I fixed fstab, rebooted, and everything I tried seemed to work fine... EXCEPT: Apparently FreeBSD couldn't see the individual partitions under /dev/da0s* , even though it had no trouble finding all the ones under /dev/da1s* . There was a /dev/da0, but no slices under it. I tried running sysinstall, and it would only let me select disks AD0 or DA1 . I tried several ways to get around this, with no luck. It occurred to me that every other time I had done this, I always and a MacOS volume as the first partition on the disk. So I rebooted into MacOS, and reformatted the new disk with one MacOS partition, several Unix partitions, and then a second MacOS volume. I then rebooted back into freebsd 7.x, and now the FW disk in the older hub had moved back to "da0". I fixed fstab to match, and rebooted again. Now I had /dev/ad0* and /dev/da0*, but no /dev/da1 at all. Absolutely no evidence that I had two firewire drives, even though both drives looked and worked perfectly fine in MacOS. Fine. I shut everything down, disconnected the old MM, and plugged the FW disk+hub into the new MM. Installed MacOS 10.4 into the new MM, and booted up off of that. Everything looks fine. I then rebooted into openfirmware, and typed in the commands: show-devs fw boot hd:3,fbsd_loader fw/:9 partition 9 is the /-filesystem for the 7.x system. Total death. The loader does start up, but it complains that it can't load the kernel and drops back to a user prompt. I then ask it to "lsdev" -- and it claims it can't find *any* devices! I power down, power back up, and try this again. Again it fails, in the exact same way. Eventually I boot up the 6.x system on the external FW disk. It boots up perfectly fine (except that I have to fix fstab yet again!). I have several things I want to check out, and reboot several times into 6.x. No problems. I try to boot into 7.x again. It fails again, but in staring at the screen I realize I typo'ed the part. Redo. Fails. I again notice I typo'ed it. Redo. This time I make absolutely certain I type in the right string before hitting 'return'. It fails. Redo. It fails. Redo again. It fails. It occurs to me that for at least some of those attempts, I had started typo the strong, but noticed the error before hitting 'return'. So I just hit the 'delete' key to remove the error, and re-typed it. And each time after it failed, I would even do a 'show' command in the loader, and I could see that the string it picked up looked exactly like I expected it to. I tried one more time, and this time I made sure I didn't make any mistakes, and never had to hit the delete key. This time it works! Apparently I typo'ed (one way or another) every time I tried to boot into 7.x, but never when booting into 6.x. I managed to do this even though the only difference between the two boot commands is the last digit I have to type. Geez, what are the odds? What's worse, I have a vague feeling that I ran into this same problem when doing the initial installs on my first Mac-mini. I haven't had the problem for years now, because I defined a device alias in open-firmware on the older MM, so for years all I've had to type is: boot hd:3,fbsd_loader fw-d0:9 I'll define another device-alias in the new MM, once I figure out how I want the disk partitioned. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From drosih at rpi.edu Mon Jan 19 21:49:25 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Mon Jan 19 21:49:31 2009 Subject: Best options for disk-formatting on PowerPC? (mac-mini) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:14 AM -0500 1/20/09, Garance A Drosihn wrote: >At 6:13 PM -0500 1/19/09, Garance A Drosihn wrote: >> >>What I have is a new-to-me MacMini, with a brand new disk in it, and >>nothing installed on that disk. I also have an external FW drive >>which has all the freebsd filesystems from my other Mac-Mini install. >>I've just updated the system on that drive so it is the up-to-date >>version of FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE. >I'll define another device-alias in the new MM, once I figure out >how I want the disk partitioned. Okay, now I can finally get to writing the real question that I had, before I got bogged down in what I expected to be *simple* steps... What I wanted to end up with is filesystems such as: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/disk1s3 33842792 35092 33807700 0% /Volumes/MmP15_10p4T /dev/disk1s5 10414889 8 9894137 0% /Volumes/7x-root /dev/disk1s7 11776292 8 11187470 0% /Volumes/8x-root /dev/disk1s9 3140772 8 2983726 0% /Volumes/fb_swap /dev/disk1s11 1515374 8 1439598 0% /Volumes/7x-var /dev/disk1s13 1718486 8 1632554 0% /Volumes/8x-var /dev/disk1s15 8006984 8 7606627 0% /Volumes/fb_mkobj /dev/disk1s17 6635601 8 6303813 0% /Volumes/fb_Users /dev/disk1s19 38456984 35232 38421752 0% /Volumes/MmP15_10p5L Actually I would have liked to end up with even more freebsd filesystems than that, but there's a problem which comes up. The above is how the filesystems were listed by 'df -kl' under MacOS, right after I had finished partitioning the new disk with DiskUtility.app . While that is what MacOS *shows*, you can see a glimpse of the problem. Notice that the device names are "disk1s3", "disk1s5", "disk1s7", etc. For every unix partition that I ask DiskUtility.app, it really creates two partitions, thus throwing away one partition-slot which I can not really use in freebsd. The unix command 'diskutil list /dev/disk1' (under MacOS) shows: /dev/disk1 #: type name size identifier 0: Apple_partition_scheme *111.8 GB disk1 1: Apple_partition_map 31.5 KB disk1s1 ( no entry listed for "disk1s2" ) 2: Apple_HFS MmP15_10p4T 32.3 GB disk1s3 3: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s4 4: Apple_UFS 7x-root 9.9 GB disk1s5 5: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s6 6: Apple_UFS 8x-root 11.2 GB disk1s7 7: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s8 8: Apple_UFS fb_swap 3.0 GB disk1s9 9: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s10 10: Apple_UFS 7x-var 1.4 GB disk1s11 11: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s12 12: Apple_UFS 8x-var 1.6 GB disk1s13 13: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s14 14: Apple_UFS fb_mkobj 7.6 GB disk1s15 15: Apple_Boot 8.5 MB disk1s16 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16: Apple_UFS fb_Users 6.3 GB disk1s17 17: Apple_HFS MmP15_10p5L 36.7 GB disk1s19 It's all those 8.5-meg "Apple_Boot" partitions which are screwing things up on me. The problem is that disklabel on FreeBSD will only show me the first sixteen of the partitions that it finds (it stops where that dotted line is). So, I can't actually *use* the partition which I created as "fb_users". So, finally, my freebsd-partitioning question: Is there something I could do with GEOM and gpart such that I could tell MacOS I want "just one" unix partition, and then on the freebsd side of things I could carve that "one" partition into several ones. I can see dedicating MacOS-visible partitions for 7x-root and 8x-root, since I assume openfirmware needs to have some idea of those to boot up. And it's fine to dedicate another MacOS-visible partition for swap. But after that it'd be mighty convenient if I could create just one more MacOS-visible partition, and then use something on freebsd to split that into 7x-var, 8x-var, fb_mkobj, and fb_users. Or is there some way to get FreeBSD to notice more than 16 of these partitions that MacOS wants to create? We couldn't get freebsd to skip over all those 8.5-meg "Apple_Boot" partitions, could we? -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From upakul at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 21:26:09 2009 From: upakul at gmail.com (Upakul Barkakaty) Date: Tue Jan 20 21:26:16 2009 Subject: USB Device connected to PCI express not working on mpc8641d Message-ID: Hi all, Looks like I have been hit by another of these pci setup issues. My Setup is as follows: [MPC8614D]--[PCI Express]--[PCIe to PCI bridge]--[NEC USB Host controller card]-->[USB Pen Drive] The same USB card and drivers are working on another board, where the bus is PCI. I tried to debug the USB driver, and it seems to be booting up fine. Even the interrupt handling seems proper. So I come down to the grey area, that is PCIe. The USB host controllers seem to initialize fine and are detected by the PCI utilities. However when I connect a USB device, then it fails @ set addree or get descriptor, whichever transaction is first. So I had a few questions: 1. The processor CCSRBAR map has a PCI Express entry. Am I required to make another entry into the LAWBAR registers for PCI express? 2. Does the PCIe to PCI bridge need to be configured for the inbound/ outbound windows or read/write routines...anything in particular? 3. How do I verify that the PCIe inbound/outbound windows are mapped correctly? Any other setting which needs to be done in this case? Any pointers in this regard will be highly appreciated. Thanks From drosih at rpi.edu Wed Jan 21 18:08:03 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Wed Jan 21 18:08:10 2009 Subject: Best options for disk-formatting on PowerPC? (mac-mini) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:49 AM -0500 1/20/09, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > >Or is there some way to get FreeBSD to notice more than 16 of these >partitions that MacOS wants to create? We couldn't get freebsd to >skip over all those 8.5-meg "Apple_Boot" partitions, could we? Well, after some sleep and doing a little more work, I seem to have things working fine wrt the partitions. When running an up-to-date build of 7.x, FreeBSD is able to use all the partitions. Due to the confusion caused by my typos in openfirmware, some of my work was done while using an older 6.2-era build, and that's the one which had the limit on partitions. There's still the initial issue I had when trying to work with two firewire drives (one of which was the older MacMini plugged into the external-FW-drive/hub), and I know that problem *is* in the 7.x system, but other than that most of my problems were due to my own mistakes. So no coding changes are needed. Just need to fix the nut who's punching the keyboard. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From tinderbox at freebsd.org Thu Jan 22 00:10:33 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Thu Jan 22 00:10:51 2009 Subject: [releng_7 tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090122081029.136331B5060@freebsd-stable.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:08 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-stable.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:08 - starting RELENG_7 tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:08 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:29 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:29 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/RELENG_7/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - building world TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-22 06:56:40 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Thu Jan 22 06:56:41 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> World build completed on Thu Jan 22 08:02:21 UTC 2009 TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - building LINT kernel TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-22 08:02:21 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Thu Jan 22 08:02:21 UTC 2009 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/uhid.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/uhub.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/uipaq.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/ukbd.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/ulpt.c cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -std=c99 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -nostdinc -I. -I/src/sys -I/src/sys/contrib/altq -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=15000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-builtin -msoft-float -fno-omit-frame-pointer -msoft-float -ffreestanding -Werror /src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c /src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c:577: error: 'USB_PRODUCT_NETAC_ONLYDISK' undeclared here (not in a function) /src/sys/dev/usb/umass.c:613: error: 'USB_PRODUCT_ONSPEC_SDS_HOTFIND_D' undeclared here (not in a function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-22 08:10:28 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-22 08:10:28 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2009-01-22 08:10:28 - 3658.32 user 362.18 system 4460.30 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-releng_7-RELENG_7-powerpc-powerpc.full From lawrence.auster at att.net Sun Jan 25 07:47:02 2009 From: lawrence.auster at att.net (Lawrence Auster) Date: Sun Jan 25 07:47:55 2009 Subject: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? Message-ID: <20090125151642.KIIZ15744.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy that Obama is President of the USA? by David Duke Read the excerpt from the Israeli News about how President Perez and Israel think that Obama’s becoming U.S. President is great day for Israel. "Israel’s President Shimon Peres ecstatic over the election of Obama" Ronen Medzini Israel News Jan. 21 “Today is a great day not only for the United States of America, but for the entire world,” President Shimon Peres wrote in a letter addressed to Barack Obama on the day of his inauguration as president of the United States. “Obama was elected by the United States, but as a matter of fact, he was chosen by the whole of humankind,” Why is Peres so ecstatic? Why shouldn’t he be, he knows that Obama is completely in the grip of the extremist Jewish Zionists in America, and he knows that the greater Obama’s popularity and idol worship, the more Obama can do for the International Zionist Cause. Any thinking and caring human being who realizes that the Zionist-controlled American foreign policy has been a disaster for the robbed and murdered people of Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and a catastrophe for the 50,000 American wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as an economic catastrophe for the hardworking Americans who pay trillions to finance these wars for Israel — must wake up the fact that supporting Obama and increasing his popularity will only aid Zionist terrorism, war, and their murder and oppression of the Palestinians. It will also hasten the economic suffering of billions of people around the world as his popularity enables him to more easily aid the Zionist International Bankers steal the wealth of the United States, Europe and the world. Obama is totally in the bloodstained and green ink- stained hands of the Zionists. The hard truth is that the more good will and support Obama has also gives more power to support the Zionist agenda! Mark my words. The Obama Presidency will be disaster for America and for the world. Obama was put into office by the Zionists. His top two cohorts for years have been the radical Jews David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel. Both have long records of radical Zionism and have been attack dogs against anyone perceived as having the slightest opposition to Israel. One such victim was Sen. Charles Percy, who both men worked to defeat and destroy because he dared to only be 99 percent rather than 100 percent pro-Israel. Rahm Emmanuel, a dual citizen of Israel who went to fight for Israel, he has a long pedigree of Jewish extremism. His father served in the Irgun Terrorist Gang and he himself is named after an Irgun terrorist. Zionist leaders in Chicago actually call Obama “the first Jewish President” and boast that Jews were key players in Obama’s every step up the ladder to President. from the very earliest days, extremist Jews were the largest contributors to his campaign. In the beginning of his Presidential bid, three Hollywood Jews that constantly make movies about Jewish suffering, but never about the Zionist terrorism and theft against the Palestinian people, Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and Jeffrey Katzenberg raised 1.2 million for Obama in a single Hollywood party. By the time Obama’s campaign was in full swing, he had huge support from the criminal Zionist International Banking firms such as Goldman Sachs and Lehman brothers. Goldman Sachs was Obama’s biggest single contributor, and his vast war chest came not from American manufacturing firms like GM or even American oil companies, (not one was in his top twenty) it was overwhelmingly dominated by Zionist international bankers, the same ones whose thievery and fraud are giving the world this economic depression. For those looking for meaningful social and political change, do you really think it will come from this man who has already been bought heart, head and soul by the most powerful czars of the international financial establishment and the biggest globalists in the world? I know that many are desperate for change, so desperate that you want to believe anything. But in the face of these facts can’t you see that Obama will be even more dangerous to freedom and justice than even George Bush and his band of Neocons were. What better way to wipe out George Bush’s hated legacy and make the world believe that America has really changed than with the election of Obama. But, all the real Zionist power, Zionist media power, and Zionist financial power in America is still in place, even stronger than ever. Many Americans and others around the world who want to do good are now telling us how wonderful Obama will be as president. What a great change it will be from the old policies. This is because of the Zionist-Controlled media hype, promoting Obama. The fact is that these poor sods are ignorantly helping the radical Zionist agenda in Israel and around the world. Every day that you don’t help expose Obama for the Zionist servant that he actually is, his popularity will be a greater danger to peace and freedom. If the Zionist terrorist Shimon Perez is happy about the coronation of Obama, then why in the hell should you be? –David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/7303_7303.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. If you wish to unsubscribe from our mailing list, please let us know by calling to 1 212 865 1284 Thanks, Lawrence Auster, 238 W 101 St Apt. 3B New York, NY 10025 Contact: lawrence.auster@att.net ------------------------------------- From ike at lesmuug.org Sun Jan 25 12:41:15 2009 From: ike at lesmuug.org (Isaac Levy) Date: Sun Jan 25 12:41:22 2009 Subject: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? In-Reply-To: <20090125151642.KIIZ15744.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> References: <20090125151642.KIIZ15744.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Message-ID: On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Lawrence Auster wrote: > Why is the President of Israel, Mr. Auster, please refrain from posting such messages here in the future. Quite obviously, this is not the place for this kind of discussion- this is an international mailing list for discussing FreeBSD computing on the PPC architecture. Best, .ike From tinderbox at freebsd.org Sun Jan 25 16:34:23 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Sun Jan 25 16:34:40 2009 Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090126003419.5656C7302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:04 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:04 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/HEAD/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - building world TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Sun Jan 25 23:21:13 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything [...] gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/zero.4 > zero.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/zyd.4 > zyd.4.gz ===> share/man/man4/man4.powerpc (all) gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/bm.4 > bm.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/pmu.4 > pmu.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/powermac_nvram.4 > powermac_nvram.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/snd_ai2s.4 > snd_ai2s.4.gz make: don't know how to make snd_davbus. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /src/share/man/man4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/share/man. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - 3573.24 user 328.17 system 4425.48 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-head-HEAD-powerpc-powerpc.full From bugmaster at FreeBSD.org Mon Jan 26 03:07:04 2009 From: bugmaster at FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD bugmaster) Date: Mon Jan 26 03:08:42 2009 Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <200901261107.n0QB70jJ024353@freefall.freebsd.org> Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a power/121407 ppc [panic] Won't boot up; strange error message. o power/112435 ppc [nexus] [patch] Update nexus children to use ofw_bus f o power/111296 ppc [kernel] [patch] [request] Support IMISS, DLMISS an DS o power/93203 ppc FreeBSD PPC Can't Write to Partitions. 4 problems total. From cdick at ocis.net Mon Jan 26 16:44:53 2009 From: cdick at ocis.net (Colin Dick) Date: Mon Jan 26 16:45:00 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> Message-ID: <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> Hello again, Well, it has been a couple weeks and I had a couple positive responses that if I can just get FreeBSD installed, the rest of the maintenance should be quite similar to i386 based systems, so I have tried again. I saw a few posts from Garance A Drosihn that seemed to have useful information, however, I still cannot seem to get this system installed. I boot with a Mac Install 10.3.7 disk (my 10.4.5 install disk kernel panics) I enter the Installer -> Open Disk Utility system I select my drive (37.3 GB TOSHIBA MK4025GAS I select the Partition option and choose Volume Scheme: 1 partition Name: FreeBSD Format: Unix File System Size 37.26GB Click the "Partition" option Confirm that I understand information will be destroyed This disk has 1 volume: "disk0s3" Click "Partition" It seems to do its thing (Creating Partition Map) to create the slice It does not include the OFW partition fortunately which I think is disk0s2?? So, I now have a blank slice I think Quit Disk Utility Quit Installer [Quit] Boot to OFW and 'eject cd' I boot the FreeBSD 7.0 disk (PPC bootonly ISO) Run through the initial screens to select country etc... Sysinstall asks to create partitions and recognizes ad0 (s2 is OWM 8MB I think and s3 38145M) so I use the default "A" 512 / 2020 SWAP 2034 /usr 512 /tmp 33066 /usr I choose Developer install without ports I choose FTP media for install My machine is online and initially tries to make new root filesystem After awhile, "Error mounting /dev/ad0s3 on /mnt : Operation not permitted [OK] Unable to mount the root file system on /dev/ad0s3! Giving up. [OK] Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting. [OK] In the F2 console /dev/ad0s3: 38145.8MB (78122672 sectors) block size 16384, fragment size 2048 using 208 cylinder groups of 183.72MB, 11758 blks, 23552 inodes. super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: There are a bunch of numbers here.... That is as far as it gets. What am I not understanding? What am I doing wrong? This seems to be the same thing that happens whether I boot with the install disk and create the (blank) partition or if I try to install over the existing MacOS X? It was interesting playing with this Mac with no Mac experience. Neat tricks I had to learn were how to eject the disk when the machine couldn't/would boot or when I didn't have my mouse hooked up. I ended up booting to OpenFirmware (alt+cmd+o+f after my wireless microsoft keyboard was sync'd) and then issuing 'eject cd'. This has certainly been a bit of a frustrating learning experience... but I think I am making progress and quite interested now in completing this challenge. -- Colin On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:00:14 +1100, Horst G?nther Burkhardt III wrote > On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 08:37 -0800, Colin Dick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have been lurking in this list for a few months now and it seems that the posts cover pretty advanced topics. Or at > > least they seem to be advanced topics to me. I am wanting to load FreeBSD onto one of these: > > > > http://support.apple.com/kb/SP65 (the 1.25GHz model upgraded to 1G of RAM) > > > > My intention is to replace a larger PC running Linux that is on its last legs with this small machine running FreeBSD > > 7. I run a number of FreeBSD servers but all on the i386 platform. I thought if I could get it to load, the rest would > > be the same? > > It seems like I can boot the initial FreeBSD 7 disk and walk through the initial configuration (except for the section > > for slicing the drive). I can pick my partitions etc... however, when install goes to start, the partitions are not > > found? I have read that it has something to do with the location of the boot manager or where the loader is or something? > > > > I think I am learning now that this concept is not for the faint of heart and that I might be better to just give up > > and find a new i386 machine to port my web/mysql/email/dns servers to. Just looking for some feedback from this forum > > what my best options might be. Does anyone know of another forum, maillist, resource for people who are running > > PPCFreeBSD as hosting servers? Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Colin Dick > > Hey Colin, > > Welcome to the list :) > > You are correct in that when you can get FreeBSD to load, it will be > pretty much the same as FreeBSD/i386 - the only difference is you'll > need to compile things because basically the packages aren't compiled as > much for ppc (due to lack of hardware and cpu time as i understand > it)... this shouldn't be an issue for you. > > No, the install isn't for the faint of heart, but thankfully the people > on the -ppc list have been (in my experience) welcoming and exceedingly > helpful. You should have an ok time getting FreeBSD running if you just > have a little patience. > > FreeBSD-PPC as a hosting platform is no different to FreeBSD-i386 as a > hosting platform, all the software is the same. If you want help, > ##FreeBSD on the freenode IRC network will help you with general > questions, and you may find some use hanging around bsdforums. > > Some notes: > > When compiling things, if you optimise for the 7455 chip in your > computer, you will need to include > > /--------------------------------------------------------------------- > | -march=7450 -mtune=7455 -mno-altivec > \--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > in your CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS - as the kernel does not yet understand > Altivec instructions the ommission of -mno-altivec will cause Bad [UTF-8?]Shit??? > to happen. > > In order to partition your disk, you'll want to use the debian 4.0 > netinst disc for mac, and set up as mac format partition tables. > Another option is to use Parted on a livecd like Finnix. > > The bootloader installation will require you to compile hfstools, unless > you have a -CURRENT tree which has a small hfs filesystem image in it > (as I understand it from stuff Nathan Whitehorn posted) > > This is just stuff from the lists that I ran across, it may hopefully > spare you _some_ trouble. > > If you have any questions, just ask on the list and someone more skilled > (infinitely more skilled) than I can answer and help you :) > > Once again, welcome, and I hope you enjoy the ride! :D > > -- Horst. From nick at nickwithers.com Mon Jan 26 21:11:04 2009 From: nick at nickwithers.com (Nick Withers) Date: Mon Jan 26 21:11:32 2009 Subject: Fatal kernel trap - "data storage interrupt" - on recent 7-STABLE In-Reply-To: <1232257966.67062.36.camel@localhost> References: <1232255895.67062.27.camel@localhost> <1232257966.67062.36.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1233033049.56164.3.camel@localhost> Hi all, Sadly, I'm still seeing this panic on the G4 system, updated 7-STABLE... Should I report this to the stable mailing list (I imagine I'll get told it's a PPC thing, but I don't really know!)? Is there any way I can get my Apple USB keyboard to work when dropped to GDB? Kernel dumps don't yet work on PowerPC, right? Am I perhaps the only one running 7-STABLE on a G4 using gmirror? On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 16:52 +1100, Nick Withers wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 16:18 +1100, Nick Withers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > My lofty plans for testing PPC ATA DMA have been thwarted somewhat by my > > bringing my G4 box from 7-STABLE / 7.1-PRERELEASE as of around the > > 2008-11-26 to 7-STABLE of around the 2009-01-15, where I'm now seeing, > > after a few hours of uptime (transcribed from the screen): > > ____ > > > > fatal kernel trap: > > > > exception = 0x3 (data storage interrupt) > > virtual address = 0x4200009c > > srr0 = 0x2175b0 > > srr1 = 0x9032 > > curthread = 0x1deed20 > > pid = 40264, comm = find > > > > [thread pid 40264 tid 100126 ] > > Stopped at 0x2175b0: lwarx r10, r0, r9, > > db> > > ____ > > > > I've had it twice now (I've been off-site a lot, sure I could've had it > > more often if I were quicker rebooting the thing), with only the thread > > information changing on the second - same exception, virtual address, > > srr0 and srr1. > > > > The keyboard is non-responsive at this point and I have to hard reset > > it. > > > > I've just switched back to running the old (i.e, November 2008 7-STABLE) > > kernel and am expecting not to see it again... > > > > Boot dmesg: > > ____ > > (snip) > > > ____ > > > > I'm not much of a kernel debugger, I'm afraid... I'm sure I've seen > > information on how to translate kernel addresses into the location of > > the code in the kernel but am doing a poor job of digging it up. > > Hmmm... Is the following useful? > ____ > > %nm /boot/kernel/kernel | sort | grep ^0021 > 0021008c t modlist_lookup2 > 0021016c T linker_ctf_get > 002101f4 T linker_file_function_listall > 0021028c t linker_debug_search_symbol > 002103f4 T linker_ddb_search_symbol > 00210424 t linker_debug_symbol_values > 002104f4 T linker_ddb_symbol_values > 00210524 t modlist_newmodule > 002105cc t linker_addmodules > 002106a0 t linker_file_add_dependency > 00210768 t sysctl_kern_function_list_iterate > 002107d0 t linker_lookup_file > 00210b08 t linker_strdup > 00210b74 t linker_basename > 00210bd8 t linker_find_file_by_name > 00210ca4 t linker_debug_search_symbol_name > 00210d34 T linker_ddb_search_symbol_name > 00210d64 T linker_make_file > 00210ed0 T linker_add_class > 00210f5c t sysctl_kern_function_list > 0021117c T kldfirstmod > 0021137c T kldstat > 002115c8 T kldnext > 0021173c T linker_file_foreach > 00211880 T kldfind > 00211a04 T linker_search_symbol_name > 00211b30 T linker_file_lookup_set > 00211cd0 t linker_file_register_modules > 00211df4 t linker_init_kernel_modules > 00211e2c t linker_file_register_sysctls > 00211f58 T linker_file_unload > 00212604 t linker_preload > 00212d28 T kern_kldunload > 00212edc T kldunloadf > 00212f28 T kldunload > 00212f60 T linker_release_module > 00213104 t linker_load_module > 00213dc4 T linker_load_dependencies > 00214010 T kern_kldload > 002141c4 T kldload > 00214280 T linker_reference_module > 00214438 t linker_file_lookup_symbol_internal > 0021463c T linker_file_lookup_symbol > 00214788 T linker_ddb_lookup > 00214858 T kldsym > 00214bf8 t unlock_lockmgr > 00214c18 t lock_lockmgr > 00214c38 t db_show_lockmgr > 00214d18 T lockmgr_chain > 00214e34 T lockmgr_printinfo > 00214ed0 T lockdestroy > 00214f00 T lockinit > 00214fc0 t acquire > 002151b8 T lockwaiters > 002152b0 T lockcount > 002153b4 T lockstatus > 00215514 T transferlockers > 002156ac T _lockmgr > 00216070 t lf_blocks > 00216114 t lf_insert_lock > 002161bc t lf_getblock > 00216288 t graph_add_indices > 00216354 t graph_assign_indices > 00216408 t lf_init > 00216500 t lf_clearremotesys_iterator > 00216568 t lf_remove_edge > 002166a8 t lf_remove_incoming > 002166fc t lf_remove_outgoing > 00216750 t lf_alloc_vertex > 00216870 t lf_add_edge > 00216cb4 t lf_add_incoming > 00216d50 t lf_alloc_lock > 00216e78 T lf_countlocks > 00216fbc T lf_iteratelocks_vnode > 0021724c t lf_free_lock > 00217570 T lf_purgelocks > 00217ad8 T lf_iteratelocks_sysid > 00217e44 T lf_clearremotesys > 00217e80 t lf_update_dependancies > 0021808c t lf_set_end > 002180cc t lf_set_start > 00218164 t lf_activate_lock > 002185d0 t lf_cancel_lock > 00218754 T lf_advlockasync > 00219b24 T lf_advlock > 00219b8c T malloc_last_fail > 00219bbc t kmeminit > 00219e60 t db_show_malloc > 00219f58 T malloc_desc2type > 00219fcc T malloc_type_freed > 0021a06c t malloc_type_zone_allocated > 0021a154 T malloc_type_allocated > 0021a190 T malloc > 0021a2b4 T malloc_init > 0021a3d8 T free > 0021a4bc T malloc_type_list > 0021a754 t sysctl_kern_malloc_stats > 0021abdc T realloc > 0021ad24 T reallocf > 0021ad8c T malloc_uninit > 0021af70 t mb_ctor_mbuf > 0021aff4 t mb_dtor_clust > 0021b010 t mb_ctor_pack > 0021b084 t mb_reclaim > 0021b110 t tunable_mbinit > 0021b194 t sysctl_nmbjumbo16 > 0021b238 t sysctl_nmbjumbo9 > 0021b2dc t sysctl_nmbjumbop > 0021b380 t mbuf_init > 0021b64c t mbuf_jumbo_free > 0021b684 t mbuf_jumbo_alloc > 0021b6dc t mb_zfini_pack > 0021b71c t mb_zinit_pack > 0021b78c t mb_dtor_mbuf > 0021b7d4 t mb_dtor_pack > 0021b834 t mb_ctor_clust > 0021b94c t sysctl_nmbclusters > 0021bb7c t sysctl_hw_usermem > 0021bbd0 t sysctl_hw_realmem > 0021bc18 t sysctl_hw_physmem > 0021bc60 t sysctl_kern_arnd > 0021bce4 t sysctl_hostname > 0021bf24 t sysctl_kern_securelvl > 0021c274 t modevent_nop > 0021c2b8 T module_reference > 0021c2e0 T module_lookupbyid > 0021c338 T module_getid > 0021c358 T module_getfnext > 0021c378 T module_setspecific > 0021c39c T module_file > 0021c3bc t module_init > 0021c440 T module_lookupbyname > 0021c4b4 T module_unload > 0021c60c T module_release > 0021c7a0 T module_register > 0021ca74 t module_shutdown > 0021cc5c T modfind > 0021cda4 T modstat > 0021d014 T modfnext > 0021d168 T modnext > 0021d2e8 T module_register_init > 0021d5d8 T mtx_pool_find > 0021d61c T mtx_pool_alloc > 0021d65c t mtx_pool_initialize > 0021d734 t mtx_pool_setup_static > 0021d790 T mtx_pool_destroy > 0021d818 T mtx_pool_create > 0021d8c4 t mtx_pool_setup_dynamic > 0021d90c t unlock_spin > 0021d92c t lock_spin > 0021d94c t db_show_mtx > 0021daf4 T thread_lock_set > 0021db54 T thread_lock_unblock > 0021db8c T _mtx_unlock_spin_flags > 0021dbe0 T mtx_init > 0021dc88 T mtx_sysinit > 0021dccc T _mtx_unlock_sleep > 0021dd84 t unlock_mtx > 0021de04 T thread_lock_block > 0021de88 T _mtx_lock_sleep > 0021dfbc t lock_mtx > 0021e038 T mtx_destroy > 0021e0d8 T _mtx_lock_spin_flags > 0021e148 T mutex_init > 0021e280 T _thread_lock_flags > 0021e494 T _mtx_trylock > 0021e55c T _mtx_lock_flags > 0021e5f4 T _mtx_unlock_flags > 0021e678 T ntp_update_second > 0021e9f0 t ntp_init > 0021ea2c t hardupdate > 0021ee04 t ntp_gettime1 > 0021eec4 t ntp_sysctl > 0021ef30 T kern_adjtime > 0021f190 T adjtime > 0021f238 T ntp_gettime > 0021f34c T ntp_adjtime > 0021f8d8 T physio > 0021fdb4 T pmc_cpu_is_disabled > 0021fdd4 T pmc_cpu_is_logical > 0021fdf4 T priv_check_cred > 0021fe94 T suser_cred > 0021fecc T suser > 0021ff04 T priv_check > 0021ff3c T pargs_hold > 0021ff78 t pgrpdump > %kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 8 0x100000 4a2d2c kernel > 2 1 0x5a3000 2dabc geom_mirror.ko > 3 1 0x5d1000 167f8 ugen.ko > 4 1 0xd07a4000 15000 nullfs.ko > 5 1 0xd07bc000 26000 nfslockd.ko > 6 1 0xd07e2000 5c000 nfsclient.ko > 7 1 0xd0846000 27000 krpc.ko > ____ > > > Anyone able to give me a pointer or two? > > > > Thanks! -- Nick Withers email: nick@nickwithers.com Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 196 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ppc/attachments/20090127/141b1d9c/attachment.pgp From drosih at rpi.edu Mon Jan 26 21:15:21 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Mon Jan 26 21:15:31 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> Message-ID: At 4:44 PM -0800 1/26/09, Colin Dick wrote: >Hello again, > Well, it has been a couple weeks and I had a couple positive >responses that if I can just get FreeBSD installed, the rest of >the maintenance should be quite similar to i386 based systems, >so I have tried again. > I saw a few posts from Garance A Drosihn that >seemed to have useful information, however, I still cannot seem >to get this system installed. Heh. It happens that I'm in the process of doing an install on a new-to-me PowerPC Mac-mini. Right now I'm doing that by copying things from my working mac-mini, so it's not quite the same as doing a clean install. But once I get that working exactly the way I want, then I'll probably do a clean install on my older Mac-mini. I'm not sure how much help I can be for your situation until I have tried the clean install. A lot has changed since the install where I wrote all those earlier notes! >I boot with a Mac Install 10.3.7 disk (my 10.4.5 install disk > kernel panics) Hmm. That is a little disturbing. The MacOS install DVD should not be kernel-panicing, unless the DVD itself is bad! I'm doing all my recent work using a MacOS 10.4.4 install disk, and have not seen any problems. Could it be that the Mac itself is bad? Bad memory, perhaps? Failing hard drive? If it kernel panics with your 10.4.5 DVD, then see if you can get it to work with some other MacOS 10.4.something install DVD. >I enter the Installer -> Open Disk Utility system >I select my drive (37.3 GB TOSHIBA MK4025GAS >I select the Partition option and choose > Volume Scheme: 1 partition > Name: FreeBSD > Format: Unix File System > Size 37.26GB > Click the "Partition" option > Confirm that I understand information will be destroyed > This disk has 1 volume: "disk0s3" When I do this, I have the MacOS utility create all the partitions I will need in FreeBSD-land. I create p #1: MacOS HFS+ partition. a "small" size. In my case, it's large enough to do a minimal MacOS install into, but then I'm starting with a larger hard disk. I suspect that it's still true that it's more convenient to have some MacOS partition that you can put the freebsd boot loader on, even if it's only 10 meg's worth. p #2: Unix partition to use for /, size = "most of the disk", name (in DiskUtility) == fb_root p #3: Unix partition to use for /var, size = 750 meg, name (in DiskUtility) == fb_var p #4: Unix partition to use for SWAP space. It looks like you planned on using 2 gig, which is a good size. name (in DiskUtility) == fb_swap So, IMO you want the partitions in that order (or at least with MacOS one first, and the '/' one second). Pick the sizes you want for #1, #3, and #4, and then make #2 take all that's left. In my case, I didn't bother splitting up '/' and '/usr' on PowerPC, even though I do that for FreeBSD on other hardware platforms. Also note that I like having a huge '/var'. Most people are happy with much less than 750 meg. > Click "Partition" >Quit Disk Utility After the disk is partitioned, you might want to start up the Terminal application (it should be in the same menu where you selected the "Disk Utility" application), and then do the unix command: df -kl One thing that will show you is that your disk partitions will be numbered something like: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/disk0s5 10354005 452 9835853 0% /Volumes/fb_root /dev/disk0s7 1312266 452 1246201 0% /Volumes/fb_var /dev/disk0s9 3140772 452 2983282 0% /Volumes/fb_swap (you'll see more lines than that, but those are the lines for your Unix partitions). Ignore most of those numbers, except the fact that the filesystems are "/dev/disk0s5", "/dev/disk0s7", and "/dev/disk0s9". The disk utility is actually creating two partitions for every unix partition that you ask for. The extra partitions will probably eat up 8.5 meg each. The 'df' command in MacOS will not show them to you, but if you're really curious you could also try the unix command: diskutil list disk0 >Quit Installer [Quit] >Boot to OFW and 'eject cd' >I boot the FreeBSD 7.0 disk (PPC bootonly ISO) >Run through the initial screens to select country etc... >Sysinstall asks to create partitions and recognizes ad0 > (s2 is OWM 8MB I think and s3 38145M) "s2" was probably the hidden partition for the single unix partition that you created, and "s3" was the actual unix partition. If you follow the steps I suggested above, the top section of the disklabel editor will probably show you *something* like: Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s1 Free: 63 blocks (0MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s2 Free: 262144 blocks (128MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s3 Free: __n__ blocks (10MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s4 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s5 Free: __n__ blocks (33000MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s6 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s7 Free: __n__ blocks (750MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s8 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s9 Free: __n__ blocks (2000MB) (except you might only see 4 lines at a time, and the "__n__" fields will have real numbers in them). Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s5", press 'C', say you want a filesystem, and the name will be '/' (the single character, without the quotes around it). Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s9", press the 'C' key, and say that you want a swap area. Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s7", press the 'C' key, say that you want a filesystem, and the name you want will be '/var'. Note that you should check the sizes (in "MB") on each of those lines, and make sure they're the sizes that you're expecting based on the partitions that you actually created. The sizes from that 'df -kl'. Ignore all partitions which claim to be 8-megs. Once you've done that, I think it's the 'Q' key will drop you out of the disklabel editor, and you can go on with the rest of your steps. Note that what I'm skipping is the part about using the default "A" option. Maybe that works fine, but I have not done a brand new PowerPC install in years, and when I last did an install that option simply didn't work. So, out of paranoid superstition, I will suggest that you avoid it for now. >I choose Developer install without ports >I choose FTP media for install Presumably you will have better luck at this point. If not, maybe someone else will chime in with answers. Once I do have enough spare time, I will try a clean install for real, and then I shall try to write up some better directions. But it is very unlikely that I will have enough spare time for at least a week or two. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Tue Jan 27 14:10:17 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Tue Jan 27 14:10:51 2009 Subject: Fatal kernel trap - "data storage interrupt" - on recent 7-STABLE In-Reply-To: <1233033049.56164.3.camel@localhost> References: <1232255895.67062.27.camel@localhost> <1232257966.67062.36.camel@localhost> <1233033049.56164.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <497F8635.9030108@freebsd.org> Nick Withers wrote: > Hi all, > > Sadly, I'm still seeing this panic on the G4 system, updated 7-STABLE... > > Should I report this to the stable mailing list (I imagine I'll get told > it's a PPC thing, but I don't really know!)? Is there any way I can get > my Apple USB keyboard to work when dropped to GDB? Kernel dumps don't > yet work on PowerPC, right? > > Am I perhaps the only one running 7-STABLE on a G4 using gmirror? > Have you tried using dcons over firewire? That should at least let you use the kernel debugger to get a backtrace, as well as dump physical memory to another machine if that is necessary. -Nathan From tinderbox at freebsd.org Tue Jan 27 14:50:47 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Tue Jan 27 14:50:56 2009 Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090126003419.5656C7302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:20:33 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:04 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:04 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/HEAD/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - building world TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-25 23:21:12 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Sun Jan 25 23:21:13 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything [...] gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/zero.4 > zero.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/zyd.4 > zyd.4.gz ===> share/man/man4/man4.powerpc (all) gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/bm.4 > bm.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/pmu.4 > pmu.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/powermac_nvram.4 > powermac_nvram.4.gz gzip -cn /src/share/man/man4/man4.powerpc/snd_ai2s.4 > snd_ai2s.4.gz make: don't know how to make snd_davbus. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /src/share/man/man4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/share/man. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - ERROR: failed to build world TB --- 2009-01-26 00:34:19 - 3573.24 user 328.17 system 4425.48 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-head-HEAD-powerpc-powerpc.full _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From cdick at ocis.net Tue Jan 27 15:51:51 2009 From: cdick at ocis.net (Colin Dick) Date: Tue Jan 27 15:51:57 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> Message-ID: <20090127235026.M44901@ocis.net> Garance, Thanks. That information was invaluable. Thank you. So, I did exactly as you suggested and pre-created the partitions in the Apple Installer: base 3Gig (2.87G after map ad0s3 2935M /) swap 1Gig (887.5 after map ad0s6 887M SWAP) var 3Gig (3.87 after map ad0s8 2935M /var) tmp 1Gig (887.5 after map ad0s11 887M /tmp) usr Remaining (29.5G after map ad0s13 30209M /usr) I reboot with the FreeBSD 7 disk and see they are all available partitions (along with a 'spare' 8Meg one for each partition created, again as Garance suggested). I mapped the partitions to their appropriate swap and file systems mount points and it looks like it is now building. It looks like it is even gonna complete ;) Whoopeee! So, as long as it boots, I will be in business. Ugh, it didn't boot. The build completed but I think I am going to have to do some OFW magic to get it to boot. I have seen a document on this list or referenced in this list that may point me in the right direction. If anyone has specifics to save me some research, please feel free to chime in! In the meantime, the next step (after booting) on an i386, I would usually recompile the kernel to include DIVERT and DUMMYNET support as well as build ipfw in instead of loading it as a module. I would then add some basic packages with pkg_add -r (bash, lsof, nano, rsync, cmdwatch) and add some ports (apache2, php5, bind5, mysql4, exim4 etc...). I understand I should scrap the pkg_add and build everything from ports. I am a little leery to do anything just yet until I get a better understanding of what I need to change in make.conf so I don't bork things. There was some comments about it in response to one of my previous posts that I didn't quite understand. Can someone supply some more specifics... What to add and where? Thanks in advance for all the help thus far. Hopefully I will have this box up and running by the weekend and can start porting my domains and get rid of this old i386 hardware on its last legs. -- Colin On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:15:17 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote > At 4:44 PM -0800 1/26/09, Colin Dick wrote: > >Hello again, > > Well, it has been a couple weeks and I had a couple positive > >responses that if I can just get FreeBSD installed, the rest of > >the maintenance should be quite similar to i386 based systems, > >so I have tried again. > > I saw a few posts from Garance A Drosihn that > >seemed to have useful information, however, I still cannot seem > >to get this system installed. > > Heh. It happens that I'm in the process of doing an install on > a new-to-me PowerPC Mac-mini. Right now I'm doing that by copying > things from my working mac-mini, so it's not quite the same as > doing a clean install. But once I get that working exactly the > way I want, then I'll probably do a clean install on my older > Mac-mini. I'm not sure how much help I can be for your situation > until I have tried the clean install. A lot has changed since > the install where I wrote all those earlier notes! > > >I boot with a Mac Install 10.3.7 disk (my 10.4.5 install disk > > kernel panics) > > Hmm. That is a little disturbing. The MacOS install DVD should > not be kernel-panicing, unless the DVD itself is bad! I'm doing > all my recent work using a MacOS 10.4.4 install disk, and have > not seen any problems. Could it be that the Mac itself is bad? > Bad memory, perhaps? Failing hard drive? > > If it kernel panics with your 10.4.5 DVD, then see if you can > get it to work with some other MacOS 10.4.something install DVD. > > >I enter the Installer -> Open Disk Utility system > >I select my drive (37.3 GB TOSHIBA MK4025GAS > >I select the Partition option and choose > > Volume Scheme: 1 partition > > Name: FreeBSD > > Format: Unix File System > > Size 37.26GB > > Click the "Partition" option > > Confirm that I understand information will be destroyed > > This disk has 1 volume: "disk0s3" > > When I do this, I have the MacOS utility create all the partitions > I will need in FreeBSD-land. I create > > p #1: MacOS HFS+ partition. a "small" size. In my case, it's > large enough to do a minimal MacOS install into, but then > I'm starting with a larger hard disk. I suspect that it's > still true that it's more convenient to have some MacOS > partition that you can put the freebsd boot loader on, > even if it's only 10 meg's worth. > p #2: Unix partition to use for /, size = "most of the disk", > name (in DiskUtility) == fb_root > p #3: Unix partition to use for /var, size = 750 meg, > name (in DiskUtility) == fb_var > p #4: Unix partition to use for SWAP space. It looks like you > planned on using 2 gig, which is a good size. > name (in DiskUtility) == fb_swap > > So, IMO you want the partitions in that order (or at least with > MacOS one first, and the '/' one second). Pick the sizes you > want for #1, #3, and #4, and then make #2 take all that's left. > In my case, I didn't bother splitting up '/' and '/usr' on PowerPC, > even though I do that for FreeBSD on other hardware platforms. > Also note that I like having a huge '/var'. Most people are happy > with much less than 750 meg. > > > Click "Partition" > >Quit Disk Utility > > After the disk is partitioned, you might want to start up the > Terminal application (it should be in the same menu where you > selected the "Disk Utility" application), and then do the unix > command: df -kl > > One thing that will show you is that your disk partitions will > be numbered something like: > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/disk0s5 10354005 452 9835853 0% /Volumes/fb_root > /dev/disk0s7 1312266 452 1246201 0% /Volumes/fb_var > /dev/disk0s9 3140772 452 2983282 0% /Volumes/fb_swap > > (you'll see more lines than that, but those are the lines for your > Unix partitions). Ignore most of those numbers, except the fact > that the filesystems are "/dev/disk0s5", "/dev/disk0s7", and > "/dev/disk0s9". The disk utility is actually creating two > partitions for every unix partition that you ask for. The extra > partitions will probably eat up 8.5 meg each. The 'df' command > in MacOS will not show them to you, but if you're really curious > you could also try the unix command: diskutil list disk0 > > >Quit Installer [Quit] > >Boot to OFW and 'eject cd' > >I boot the FreeBSD 7.0 disk (PPC bootonly ISO) > >Run through the initial screens to select country etc... > >Sysinstall asks to create partitions and recognizes ad0 > > (s2 is OWM 8MB I think and s3 38145M) > > "s2" was probably the hidden partition for the single unix > partition that you created, and "s3" was the actual unix > partition. > > If you follow the steps I suggested above, the top section of > the disklabel editor will probably show you *something* like: > > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s1 Free: 63 blocks (0MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s2 Free: 262144 blocks (128MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s3 Free: __n__ blocks (10MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s4 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s5 Free: __n__ blocks (33000MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s6 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s7 Free: __n__ blocks (750MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s8 Free: 17408 blocks (8MB) > Disk: ad0 Partition name: ad0s9 Free: __n__ blocks (2000MB) > > (except you might only see 4 lines at a time, and the > "__n__" fields will have real numbers in them). > > Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s5", > press 'C', say you want a filesystem, and the name will be '/' > (the single character, without the quotes around it). > > Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s9", > press the 'C' key, and say that you want a swap area. > > Using the up-and-down arrow keys, select the line for "ad0s7", > press the 'C' key, say that you want a filesystem, and the > name you want will be '/var'. > > Note that you should check the sizes (in "MB") on each of those lines, > and make sure they're the sizes that you're expecting based on the > partitions that you actually created. The sizes from that 'df -kl'. > Ignore all partitions which claim to be 8-megs. > > Once you've done that, I think it's the 'Q' key will drop you out > of the disklabel editor, and you can go on with the rest of your > steps. Note that what I'm skipping is the part about using the > default "A" option. Maybe that works fine, but I have not done a > brand new PowerPC install in years, and when I last did an install > that option simply didn't work. So, out of paranoid superstition, > I will suggest that you avoid it for now. > > >I choose Developer install without ports > >I choose FTP media for install > > Presumably you will have better luck at this point. If not, maybe > someone else will chime in with answers. Once I do have enough > spare time, I will try a clean install for real, and then I shall > try to write up some better directions. But it is very unlikely > that I will have enough spare time for at least a week or two. > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From drosih at rpi.edu Tue Jan 27 16:48:29 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Tue Jan 27 16:48:36 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20090127235026.M44901@ocis.net> References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> <20090127235026.M44901@ocis.net> Message-ID: At 3:50 PM -0800 1/27/09, Colin Dick wrote: > > So, as long as it boots, I will be in business. Ugh, it didn't >boot. The build completed but I think I am going to have to do >some OFW magic to get it to boot. I have seen a document on this >list or referenced in this list that may point me in the right >direction. If anyone has specifics to save me some research, >please feel free to chime in! check the end of: http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt (which was probably also on the 7.1 install CD). The heading on that web page says "FreeBSD/PPC 6.0-RELEASE install.iso", but I expect the section about booting issues is still correct. Read the part down at: "5. First boot" In my case, I copy the file "/boot/loader" to the MacOS partition that was the first partition created on my internal hard disk. I name the copy "fbsd_loader" just so I remember what it is if I come across it sometime when running MacOS, and wonder what it's doing there. And then whenever I want to boot up freebsd I use the openfirmware command: boot hd:3,fbsd_loader hd:5 It looks like you did not create a MacOS partition, so you won't be able to use that. But the iso_install write-up tells you how you can boot up using the initial freebsd install CD. Note that I'm pretty sure that OpenFirmware still has no idea about how to find any file on a FreeBSD-formatted partition, so I think you will be stuck with using the CD-booting method. The write-up provides a sample command of: boot cd:,\boot\loader hd:11 but in your case "/" is on "ad0s3", so you'd want that "hd:11" to be "hd:3". -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From cdick at ocis.net Tue Jan 27 17:58:45 2009 From: cdick at ocis.net (Colin Dick) Date: Tue Jan 27 17:58:51 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> <20090127235026.M44901@ocis.net> Message-ID: <20090128015649.M62384@ocis.net> Hey Garance, I did reference your message for that iso_install.txt doc and did exactly as you describe. I have it booting (albeit with the need for OFW and the FreeBSD 7.0 CD in the drive). If there is ever a way to be able to run this thing remotely, I will be quite interested. However, since it is my home server, I guess if it ever crashes or if I have to reboot, I can have a keyboard on standby to get to OFW and issue the boot "cd:,\boot\loader hd:3" command. I have just run portsnap fetch/extract and I am ready to start building ports. Before I begin and break things, is there anything special I have to do before building or can I now just start to run this thing like I would any i386 device? Thanks for all your help thus far and for anything else I bother you with as I go down this road. TTYL. -- Colin On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:48:25 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote > At 3:50 PM -0800 1/27/09, Colin Dick wrote: > > > > So, as long as it boots, I will be in business. Ugh, it didn't > >boot. The build completed but I think I am going to have to do > >some OFW magic to get it to boot. I have seen a document on this > >list or referenced in this list that may point me in the right > >direction. If anyone has specifics to save me some research, > >please feel free to chime in! > > check the end of: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~grehan/iso_install.txt > > (which was probably also on the 7.1 install CD). The heading on > that web page says "FreeBSD/PPC 6.0-RELEASE install.iso", but I > expect the section about booting issues is still correct. Read > the part down at: "5. First boot" > > In my case, I copy the file "/boot/loader" to the MacOS partition > that was the first partition created on my internal hard disk. I > name the copy "fbsd_loader" just so I remember what it is if I > come across it sometime when running MacOS, and wonder what it's > doing there. And then whenever I want to boot up freebsd I use > the openfirmware command: > > boot hd:3,fbsd_loader hd:5 > > It looks like you did not create a MacOS partition, so you won't > be able to use that. But the iso_install write-up tells you how > you can boot up using the initial freebsd install CD. > > Note that I'm pretty sure that OpenFirmware still has no idea about > how to find any file on a FreeBSD-formatted partition, so I think > you will be stuck with using the CD-booting method. The write-up > provides a sample command of: > > boot cd:,\boot\loader hd:11 > > but in your case "/" is on "ad0s3", so you'd want that "hd:11" to > be "hd:3". > > -- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From drosih at rpi.edu Tue Jan 27 18:24:27 2009 From: drosih at rpi.edu (Garance A Drosihn) Date: Tue Jan 27 18:24:34 2009 Subject: FreeBSD 7 Install on an older Mac Mini In-Reply-To: <20090128015649.M62384@ocis.net> References: <20090105162138.M45881@ocis.net> <1231178414.24576.32.camel@horst-tla> <20090127000528.M4693@ocis.net> <20090127235026.M44901@ocis.net> <20090128015649.M62384@ocis.net> Message-ID: At 5:56 PM -0800 1/27/09, Colin Dick wrote: > I have just run portsnap fetch/extract and I am ready to start >building ports. Before I begin and break things, is there >anything special I have to do before building or can I now just >start to run this thing like I would any i386 device In my case, after I got past the initial install than I treat my PPC mini-mac install pretty much the same way I do for all my other FreeBSD installs. Of course, that's no guarantee that you won't run into other issues. In particular, I don't run X11 on *any* of my FreeBSD machines, so I don't know what the state of X11, KDE, or GNOME is on FreeBSD/PPC. Hopefully it will work fine for you, and it'll be worth all the initial trouble in setting it up! :-) -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From nick at nickwithers.com Tue Jan 27 19:54:20 2009 From: nick at nickwithers.com (Nick Withers) Date: Tue Jan 27 19:54:26 2009 Subject: Fatal kernel trap - "data storage interrupt" - on recent 7-STABLE In-Reply-To: <497F8635.9030108@freebsd.org> References: <1232255895.67062.27.camel@localhost> <1232257966.67062.36.camel@localhost> <1233033049.56164.3.camel@localhost> <497F8635.9030108@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <1233114846.90199.1.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 16:09 -0600, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > Nick Withers wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Sadly, I'm still seeing this panic on the G4 system, updated 7-STABLE... > > > > Should I report this to the stable mailing list (I imagine I'll get told > > it's a PPC thing, but I don't really know!)? Is there any way I can get > > my Apple USB keyboard to work when dropped to GDB? Kernel dumps don't > > yet work on PowerPC, right? > > > > Am I perhaps the only one running 7-STABLE on a G4 using gmirror? > > > Have you tried using dcons over firewire? That should at least let you > use the kernel debugger to get a backtrace, as well as dump physical > memory to another machine if that is necessary. I haven't, but I'll get onto it. This'll be the first time I've ever used firewire, too, how exciting :-) Cheers Nathan! > -Nathan -- Nick Withers email: nick@nickwithers.com Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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TB --- 2009-01-28 22:59:53 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-28 22:59:53 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2009-01-28 22:59:53 - 4792.13 user 403.84 system 5980.43 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-head-HEAD-powerpc-powerpc.full From tinderbox at freebsd.org Wed Jan 28 23:38:46 2009 From: tinderbox at freebsd.org (FreeBSD Tinderbox) Date: Wed Jan 28 23:38:53 2009 Subject: [head tinderbox] failure on powerpc/powerpc Message-ID: <20090129073842.EFD8C7302F@freebsd-current.sentex.ca> TB --- 2009-01-29 05:59:41 - tinderbox 2.6 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2009-01-29 05:59:41 - starting HEAD tinderbox run for powerpc/powerpc TB --- 2009-01-29 05:59:41 - cleaning the object tree TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:08 - cvsupping the source tree TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:08 - /usr/bin/csup -z -r 3 -g -L 1 -h localhost -s /tinderbox/HEAD/powerpc/powerpc/supfile TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - building world TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-29 06:00:16 - /usr/bin/make -B buildworld >>> World build started on Thu Jan 29 06:00:18 UTC 2009 >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree >>> stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims >>> stage 1.2: bootstrap tools >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3: cross tools >>> stage 4.1: building includes >>> stage 4.2: building libraries >>> stage 4.3: make dependencies >>> stage 4.4: building everything >>> World build completed on Thu Jan 29 07:24:04 UTC 2009 TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - generating LINT kernel config TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - cd /src/sys/powerpc/conf TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - /usr/bin/make -B LINT TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - building LINT kernel TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/obj TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - TARGET=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - TARGET_ARCH=powerpc TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - TZ=UTC TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - cd /src TB --- 2009-01-29 07:24:04 - /usr/bin/make -B buildkernel KERNCONF=LINT >>> Kernel build for LINT started on Thu Jan 29 07:24:04 UTC 2009 >>> stage 1: configuring the kernel >>> stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree >>> stage 2.2: rebuilding the object tree >>> stage 2.3: build tools >>> stage 3.1: making dependencies >>> stage 3.2: building everything [...] /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c: In function 'ams_close': /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c:357: error: invalid operands to binary & /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c: In function 'ams_poll': /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c:369: error: invalid operands to binary & /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c: In function 'ams_read': /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c:398: error: invalid operands to binary & /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c: In function 'ams_ioctl': /src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c:488: error: invalid operands to binary & *** Error code 1 Stop in /obj/powerpc/src/sys/LINT. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /src. TB --- 2009-01-29 07:38:42 - WARNING: /usr/bin/make returned exit code 1 TB --- 2009-01-29 07:38:42 - ERROR: failed to build lint kernel TB --- 2009-01-29 07:38:42 - 4787.34 user 406.83 system 5941.33 real http://tinderbox.des.no/tinderbox-head-HEAD-powerpc-powerpc.full From jhb at freebsd.org Thu Jan 29 06:09:48 2009 From: jhb at freebsd.org (John Baldwin) Date: Thu Jan 29 06:09:59 2009 Subject: svn commit: r187878 - head/sys/dev/adb In-Reply-To: <200901290559.n0T5xhmL043647@svn.freebsd.org> References: <200901290559.n0T5xhmL043647@svn.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <200901290819.36839.jhb@freebsd.org> On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:59:43 am Ed Schouten wrote: > Author: ed > Date: Thu Jan 29 05:59:42 2009 > New Revision: 187878 > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/187878 > > Log: > Make adb_mouse use dev2unit() instead of minor(). > > A real fix would be to migrate it to si_drv0 to store the softc > directly, but this is the quickest way to fix it right now. --- //depot/vendor/freebsd/src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c 2009/01/29 06:00:14 +++ //depot/user/jhb/acpipci/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c 2009/01/29 13:18:24 @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ #include "adb.h" -#define CDEV_GET_SOFTC(x) devclass_get_softc(adb_mouse_devclass, dev2unit(x) & 0x1f) +#define CDEV_GET_SOFTC(x) (x)->si_drv1 static int adb_mouse_probe(device_t dev); static int adb_mouse_attach(device_t dev); @@ -236,6 +236,7 @@ sc->cdev = make_dev(&ams_cdevsw, device_get_unit(dev), UID_ROOT, GID_OPERATOR, 0644, "ams%d", device_get_unit(dev)); + sc->cdev->si_drv1 = sc; adb_set_autopoll(dev,1); Can someone on powerpc@ test it please? -- John Baldwin From nwhitehorn at freebsd.org Thu Jan 29 08:11:37 2009 From: nwhitehorn at freebsd.org (Nathan Whitehorn) Date: Thu Jan 29 08:12:08 2009 Subject: svn commit: r187878 - head/sys/dev/adb In-Reply-To: <200901290819.36839.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <200901290559.n0T5xhmL043647@svn.freebsd.org> <200901290819.36839.jhb@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <4981C72A.5040608@freebsd.org> John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 29 January 2009 12:59:43 am Ed Schouten wrote: >> Author: ed >> Date: Thu Jan 29 05:59:42 2009 >> New Revision: 187878 >> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/187878 >> >> Log: >> Make adb_mouse use dev2unit() instead of minor(). >> >> A real fix would be to migrate it to si_drv0 to store the softc >> directly, but this is the quickest way to fix it right now. > > --- //depot/vendor/freebsd/src/sys/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c 2009/01/29 06:00:14 > +++ //depot/user/jhb/acpipci/dev/adb/adb_mouse.c 2009/01/29 13:18:24 > @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ > > #include "adb.h" > > -#define CDEV_GET_SOFTC(x) devclass_get_softc(adb_mouse_devclass, dev2unit(x) > & 0x1f) > +#define CDEV_GET_SOFTC(x) (x)->si_drv1 > > static int adb_mouse_probe(device_t dev); > static int adb_mouse_attach(device_t dev); > @@ -236,6 +236,7 @@ > sc->cdev = make_dev(&ams_cdevsw, device_get_unit(dev), > UID_ROOT, GID_OPERATOR, 0644, "ams%d", > device_get_unit(dev)); > + sc->cdev->si_drv1 = sc; > > adb_set_autopoll(dev,1); > > > Can someone on powerpc@ test it please? This works perfectly. Thanks, and feel free to commit it. -Nathan From lawrence.auster at att.net Thu Jan 29 14:29:02 2009 From: lawrence.auster at att.net (Lawrence Auster) Date: Thu Jan 29 14:29:41 2009 Subject: The =?iso-8859-1?q?=93Military=2C?= Industrial =?iso-8859-1?q?Complex=94?= is no more -- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites Message-ID: <20090129220517.LWII12540.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> The “Military, Industrial Complex” is no more. Today it is the Political, Financial and Media — Zionist Complex! 1/28/2009 An short essay by Dr. David Duke The “Military-Industrial complex” really has no relevance to the real holders of global power today. America is the most powerful military and economic nation on earth. The powers that control the levers of political power in America possess the greatest power the world has ever seen. Who really has power over the government today? Is it the fabled “Military, Industrial Complex”? An effective gauge of direct political power in America is “to discover who provided the pivotal amounts of the billion-dollar recent campaigns for U.S. President. You can look directly at campaign contributions for every candidate from the Federal Election Commission in order to find out who holds the real power in politics. So, who holds the real power over the American political establishment? Let’s first look at who does not hold much power over the establishment. 1) It is not the military. There is not any organized military monetary influence or even significant political influence of the military over the politicians. In fact, no one in military positions of authority are allowed to openly get involved in politics. No active sergeant, lieutenant, or General can send out a directive to the men under him to support or oppose a particular candidate (the one exception I know to that was when the Louisiana commanding general of the National Guard, under Jewish influence, sent a letter to all national guardsmen telling them that it was their “patriotic duty” to vote against David Duke and for the Liberal corrupt former Governor, Edwin Edwards. Even that caused a scandal in military circles, as it should have. 2) It is NOT major manufacturing or even the huge oil companies. There was not one oil company and only a couple of legitimate manufacturing or industrial concerns on Obama and McCain’s top twenty contributor list. The list was completely dominated by Zionist international banking firms. If one combines every defense contractor’s contributions the money they give in politics is minuscule compared to Zionist international banks. They don’t even come close to the power in lobbying that AIPAC and a couple of dozen more Jewish extremist organizations have. Jewish lobbyists literally get almost unanimous support in Congress for outrageous giveaways to Israel, a nation that has committed terrorism against us and killed or maimed scores of Americans. I am not talking about contracts here, I am speaking about giving away billions of dollars to a foreign nation. So, so much for the media-popularized term, the military-industrial complex In direct political money and lobbying then, Zionists are the undisputed masters of the American political establishment. In addition to their control through the use of money as an inducement or a threat, they have tens of thousands of Jewish extremists scattered throughout the entire bureaucracy who are very conscious of supporting their brethren and supporting the organized Jewish agenda. They also are ready to act against any Gentile who dares to go against Israel or the Jewish agenda. How will a Jewish federal judge rule in a huge litigation issue between Jewish and non-Jewish parties? Why was the biggest robber in the history of the world, Bernie Madoff who stole over 50 billion dollars and who ruined tens of thousands of families, only charged with one criminal count, and allowed to stay in his luxury apartment to await trial? Is there an organized Jewish agenda? Absolutely. In fact, the leading and most powerful Jewish groups have a supra-organization called the Council of Presidents (composed of the most powerful 5 dozen Jewish organizations in America). They issue detailed positions not just on Mideast policy but on many other issues that have nothing to do with Israel, aspects of domestic policy including issues such as opening America’s borders. They even assume positions on issues that you wouldn’t even think would have unanimity among Jews, such as abortion rights. Their job is to make sure that Jewish power is absolutely united on what they decide are their common agendas. Next, we must talk about one of the most influential parts of the American political process, the mass media. The media, such as the NY Times and the Washington Post (the newspaper read by every member of America’s government and bureaucracy in Washington). The Washington Post can determine even what issues Congress will discuss and it greatly affects the publicity for or against those issues. Broadcast and cable television also have an enormous impact, and we can include movies, books, magazines and the newspaper chains that reach down into almost every American community. As my chapters in Jewish Supremacism on “Jewish Media Supremacy” document, the ownership, depth and breadth of Jewish influence in the media is simply breathtaking. In media, whether you speak of owners, administrators, managers, editors, producers, writers, correspondents, pundits and reporters, there is an army of Jews who are animated by the Holocaust and the issues of the organized Jewish community. If you haven’t yet read them, you simply must see the evidence on the Jewish supremacy in media I have compiled in my books Jewish Supremacism and My Awakening. The other great seat of establishment power is simply money, huge sums of money and the willingness to use those funds on behalf of an agenda. The biggest concentrations of wealth in the world today are in the Zionist international banks, and in financial groups that the Jews completely control such as the Federal Reserve Corporation, the same forces that have led us to the doorstep of a great depression. It is no accident that Alan Greenspan and Ben Shalom Bernanke are the last two of the Federal Reserve czars. Even in days of World War I, an immensely rich, Jewish international banker, Jacob Schiff, voiced pride in the fact that he was instrumental in weakening Czarist Russia (the government that Jews universally hated), and that he supported Russia’s enemies so as to make Russia ripe for communist overthrow (Jewish groups brag of his help to Japan in the Russo-Japanese War so as to hurt the Russian government). Schiff also gave millions of dollars to directly finance the Jews who led and organized the Russian revolution and the Bolshevik terror in Russia. There is no disputing of these facts. Plenty of Jewish history books detail all of it. So, frankly, financial power in the control of people who will use it for an agenda is also a key ingredient of real power. Again, the financial power in the hands of modern day Jacob Schiff’s, is an incredibly powerful weapon. So forget about the “Military-Industrial Complex.” That is passe. In today’s world it makes more sense to speak about the “Political, Financial and Media Zionist complex.” That is the real core of power that bends everything whether it be local laws, or giant corporations, to its will. Even if one of the world’s richest firms, such as Microsoft (which is now by the way run by a Jewish extremist), would buck the political, financial, and media Zionist complex, it would be broken by government fiat, the Jewish-influenced courts (such as anti-trust actions), and by vicious attacks by the Jewish-influenced media. Microsoft would either be dismembered or destroyed. Such are the realities of the modern world. There is no longer a “military industrial complex,” but there is a Political and media and financial Zionist complex that rules us and aims to control the whole world. No single part of this behemoth can be defeated, because it can use its other assets to defend the section under attack. It can only be brought down by concentrating all our political and ideological fire right on the core the problem, International Zionism and its driving impetus: Jewish Supremacism. —Dr. David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/forget-the-military-industrial-complex-today-its-the-political-financial-and-media-zionist-complex_7394.html ---- The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites 1/29/2009 The main argument for affirmative action is that institutions should reflect racial percentages of population, if not there must be de facto racial discrimination. Here is the breakdown of students by race at America’s premier university, Obama’s alma mater, Harvard. Even though non-Jewish White Americans are almost 70 percent of the population and on average score much higher on entrance exams, they are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. So what race is really the victim of racial discrimination? For those who are truly dedicated to stopping racial discrimination, what are you going to do about this massive discrimination, or does it not matter to you because White people happen to be the victims? The hidden, massive racial discrimination that goes on in America against White people! A U.S. Government study offers proof that European Americans face massive institutional racial discrimination that affects millions of the most talented and educated of our people Introduction by Dr. David Duke – As most of you know, the term “white supremacist” has become literally a prefix of my name when I am in the news. It is the media’s way to condition readers not to pay attention to what I say because I am a “white supremacist.” The truth is I am not a White supremacist, and I seek no supremacy or control over any people, but I do demand that the rights of people of European descent to be respected as much as any other people’s rights. The fact is that in the United States of America, Canada, the UK in many areas of Europe Whites face a powerful state-sanctioned, and often mandated, racial discrimination against White people who are better-qualified than their non-White counterparts. It may be surprising to some reading this, but millions of discriminated against Whites are often poorer and who face more difficult social situations than many of their non-White counterparts who are being given preference over them. It also affects the most talented of our people. Many Whites are under the mistaken impression that the White victims of racial discrimination are mostly from the low income and low IQ sectors of the population. Nothing could be further from the truth. In actuality, the percentages of Whites who are victims of racial discrimination are much higher in the sectors of the White population with the highest intelligence and greatest abilities. The facts are shocking, but true. Most people know that most universities have programs of admittance that give less-qualified minorities preference over better-qualified Whites. Almost all of the Fortune 500 largest corporations have affirmative action and diversity programs that discriminate against White people, both male and female, in hiring. They also have programs of discrimination that favor non-Whites in promotions and advancement. This is true in the academic area as well. You can look at almost any academic department of any American university and you will see in place a strong racial bias for “minorities” in preface over Whites in hiring and advancement. Whether you are talking about a university History, English or Math department in almost any university these policies are in place and powerful. These racial discriminatory policies are real, and they can be easily proven to exist. But, now we thanks to a government study, there is even a more powerful way to show their real impact on tens of mi llions of White Americans. The brilliant economist and author whose pen name is Yggdrasil has compiled the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth (NLSY) 1979, which was a massive study conducted by the Department of Labor to track the lives of 155,000 Americans by race, IQ, income, education and other factors to see how remedial efforts for minorities were doing. It was done after the installation of so called “affirmative action” programs which gave preference to non-White groups over whites. The NLSY study is meant to follow this huge sampling for their entire lives to see how diversity is working out for America. The data is from this ongoing study is tangible proof of the horrendous level of racial discrimination going on against White people. I will link you to Yggdrasil’s fine paper in a moment, but let me first give you a couple of snippets from his work that proves the existence of massive racial discrimination going on against our people. Here is a chart showing the ethnic breakdown of the most prestigious university in the United States of America: Harvard. America’s premier university is extremely expensive (unless you receive special grants and scholarships) and a degree from it just about guarantees its graduates the best paid and prestigious jobs America has to offer. Affirmative action advocates have long said the companies or institutions that don’t reflect the actual racial population percentages are de facto racist and discriminatory. So what is the situation at Harvard, non-Jewish Whites who are about 70 pecent of the American population are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. One should first consider the fact that Whites are represented in the top two percentile level on college admission tests on an average that is a 5 times higher rate than non-White groups. If one then factors in the fact that Whites are also 70 percent of the population, there should be at least 25 times more Whites who would be better qualified than the non-White students currently at Harvard. But even though these Whites are the best and brightest America has to offer they are limited to only 20 percent of Harvard students! Such is nothing more than blatant, racial discrimination. Another interesting fact one can gleam from this chart and many in the NLSY studies that Jewish over-representation is not based simply on the fact that Jews have a high intelligence, they often do twice as well as their intelligence bracket would indicate. Such would suggest the intra-tribal support system for group cohesion and advancements aids their success rate. The NLSY data also shows how incomes today in the USA correlate with race and intelligence. Let’s take a look NLSY tracking studies of intelligent White women, these are White women in the 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket as compared to Black women in that same high 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket. The average Black females of that IQ level earned an average of approximately $54,000 per year through 1996, whereas White females on the same IQ level earned only half of that amount, about $28,000 per year through 1996. When White women in the same intelligent bracket of Black women earn half of the average amount that the Black women do, that’s real racial discrimination. I am not referring here to a few White women who are at least equally qualified but getting half the salary that Black women do, I am talking about the average White women in America! The NLSY is a big enough sample that reflects the whole nation. In fact it is meant to. The average White woman of high intelligence earns one-half of what Black women do of the same intelligence! I obviously don’t like this racial discrimination against our people. Neither does the economist Yggdrasil. We advocate that the best person regardless of race gets whatever college admission or job or promotion their abilities dictate. We have no fear of how well our people will do on a fair playing field. Because we stand for true civil rights, human rights in the matter, we are called racists, and the real capper: “white supremacists.” There are many people in America and around the world who are ignorant of the facts of anti-White racial discrimination. The media acts like it doesn’t exist. Even after the election of an affirmative action African-American President, America is still painted as an anti-Black racist country. The truth is that European Americans are facing racial discrimination in the very institutions and nation that our forefathers created. Our movement is truly a liberation movement like any other in the world that strives for a people to free and live in society of our own values rather than oppressive society imposed upon us. We are not racists or supremacists trying to deny the rights of others. We are human rights activists defending our people’s rights and heritage. –Dr. David Duke Source & Charts : http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-real-racial-discrimination-that-goes-on-in-america_7407.html ----- Obama’s Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team George Mitchell is the new American envoy now in the Mideast. Who is Mitchell and who are the key players in Obama’s Mideast policy team? First, let’s examine the major players on the Obama foreign policy team. Roger Cohen writing in The New York Times on January 11, 2009 wrote some things that if he were a Gentile would have earned him some attacks as an “anti-Semite.” He pointed out the incredible top-heavy pro-Zionist content of the team which is supposed to broker a fair and just peace in the Mideast. In discussing the team he identified them with these words: They include Dennis Ross (the veteran Clinton administration Mideast peace envoy who may now extend his brief to Iran) [a long-time Jewish Zionist]; James Steinberg [Jewish Zionist] (as deputy secretary of state) ; Dan Kurtzer [Jewish Zionist] (the former U.S. ambassador to Israel); Dan Shapiro [Jewish Zionist] (a longtime aide to Obama); and Martin Indyk [Jewish Zionist] another former ambassador to Israel who is close to the incoming secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.) Now, I have nothing against smart, driven, liberal, Jewish (or half-Jewish) males; I’ve looked in the mirror. I know or have talked to all these guys, except Shapiro. They’re knowledgeable, broad-minded and determined. Still, on the diversity front they fall short. On the change-you-can-believe-in front, they also leave something to be desired. Cohen did not even mention that the two closest advisers to Obama, the guys that filter almost everything that Obama see and hears and makes the day to day decisions of running the oval office. They are David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel, two long time dedicated Jewish extremists. Emmanuel, son of an Irgun terrorist and named after another Irgun terrorist, even fought in the Israeli Army. Now we come to the new envoy to the Mideast, George Mitchell of Maine, the man who is supposed to be a broadminded and just arbitrator between Israel and the Palestinians. The Jewish-influenced has made a big point of Mitchell’s Lebanese ancestry. What the Zionist media doesn’t tell you is that he has been completely under the control of AIPAC and radical Zionists for years. As Senate Majority Leader he rammed through everything Israel wanted. He even supported the Senate resolution that gave Israel unconditional support during the Zionist massacre of thousands of Gaza civilians. In fact, originally an appointee to the Senate, Mitchell owes his entire Senate career on the massive support given him in 1982 and since by AIPAC and 27 other Jewish extremist controlled political action committees that AIPAC arranged. AIPAC’s Tom Dine summarized AIPAC’s success in Mitchell’s election by saying that “American Jews are thus able to form our own foreign policy agenda.” Of course, Dine spoke the complete and unvarnished truth. American and Israeli extremist Jews do indeed control the foreign policy of the United States. Such control has long gone on in concert with past U.S. Presidents and it goes on today with Obama. Only difference is that today there is a greater danger because many in America and around the world falsely believe that Obama represents change. With the incredible respect and adulation given to Obama, he is in a much better position to support the Zionist war agenda and ultimately do far more harm than a discredited George Bush. Hold on to your hats, America. I predict Obama will usher in war and conflagration that will make George Bush’s presidency seem mild in comparison. He has already announced a doubling of American troops in Afghanistan. Can a catastrophic war with Iran be far behind? Jewish extremists want this war and Obama is completely under their control! – Dr. David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/who-is-on-obamas-dream-team-for-mideast-peace_7380.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. If you wish to unsubscribe from our mailing list, please let us know by calling "to 1 212 865 1284 Thanks, Lawrence Auster, 238 W 101 St Apt. 3B New York, NY 10025 Contact: lawrence.auster@att.net ------------------------------------- From spaztian at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 15:10:16 2009 From: spaztian at gmail.com (Sebastian W) Date: Thu Jan 29 15:10:23 2009 Subject: =?windows-1252?q?Re=3A_The_=93Military=2C_Industrial_Complex=94_?= =?windows-1252?q?is_no_more_--_The_Hidden_Massive_Racial_Discrimin?= =?windows-1252?q?ation_in_America_against_Whites?= In-Reply-To: <20090129220517.LWII12540.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> References: <20090129220517.LWII12540.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> Message-ID: This is NOT the correct forum to be posting to. 2009/1/30 Lawrence Auster : > The "Military, Industrial Complex" is no more. Today it is the Political, Financial and Media ? Zionist Complex! > 1/28/2009 > > An short essay by Dr. David Duke > > The "Military-Industrial complex" really has no relevance to the real holders of global power today. > > America is the most powerful military and economic nation on earth. The powers that control the levers of political power in America possess the greatest power the world has ever seen. > > Who really has power over the government today? Is it the fabled "Military, Industrial Complex"? > > An effective gauge of direct political power in America is "to discover who provided the pivotal amounts of the billion-dollar recent campaigns for U.S. President. You can look directly at campaign contributions for every candidate from the Federal Election Commission in order to find out who holds the real power in politics. > > So, who holds the real power over the American political establishment? > > Let's first look at who does not hold much power over the establishment. > > 1) It is not the military. There is not any organized military monetary influence or even significant political influence of the military over the politicians. In fact, no one in military positions of authority are allowed to openly get involved in politics. No active sergeant, lieutenant, or General can send out a directive to the men under him to support or oppose a particular candidate (the one exception I know to that was when the Louisiana commanding general of the National Guard, under Jewish influence, sent a letter to all national guardsmen telling them that it was their "patriotic duty" to vote against David Duke and for the Liberal corrupt former Governor, Edwin Edwards. Even that caused a scandal in military circles, as it should have. > > 2) It is NOT major manufacturing or even the huge oil companies. There was not one oil company and only a couple of legitimate manufacturing or industrial concerns on Obama and McCain's top twenty contributor list. The list was completely dominated by Zionist international banking firms. If one combines every defense contractor's contributions the money they give in politics is minuscule compared to Zionist international banks. They don't even come close to the power in lobbying that AIPAC and a couple of dozen more Jewish extremist organizations have. Jewish lobbyists literally get almost unanimous support in Congress for outrageous giveaways to Israel, a nation that has committed terrorism against us and killed or maimed scores of Americans. I am not talking about contracts here, I am speaking about giving away billions of dollars to a foreign nation. > > So, so much for the media-popularized term, the military-industrial complex > > In direct political money and lobbying then, Zionists are the undisputed masters of the American political establishment. In addition to their control through the use of money as an inducement or a threat, they have tens of thousands of Jewish extremists scattered throughout the entire bureaucracy who are very conscious of supporting their brethren and supporting the organized Jewish agenda. They also are ready to act against any Gentile who dares to go against Israel or the Jewish agenda. > > How will a Jewish federal judge rule in a huge litigation issue between Jewish and non-Jewish parties? Why was the biggest robber in the history of the world, Bernie Madoff who stole over 50 billion dollars and who ruined tens of thousands of families, only charged with one criminal count, and allowed to stay in his luxury apartment to await trial? > > Is there an organized Jewish agenda? Absolutely. In fact, the leading and most powerful Jewish groups have a supra-organization called the Council of Presidents (composed of the most powerful 5 dozen Jewish organizations in America). They issue detailed positions not just on Mideast policy but on many other issues that have nothing to do with Israel, aspects of domestic policy including issues such as opening America's borders. They even assume positions on issues that you wouldn't even think would have unanimity among Jews, such as abortion rights. Their job is to make sure that Jewish power is absolutely united on what they decide are their common agendas. > > Next, we must talk about one of the most influential parts of the American political process, the mass media. The media, such as the NY Times and the Washington Post (the newspaper read by every member of America's government and bureaucracy in Washington). > > The Washington Post can determine even what issues Congress will discuss and it greatly affects the publicity for or against those issues. Broadcast and cable television also have an enormous impact, and we can include movies, books, magazines and the newspaper chains that reach down into almost every American community. As my chapters in Jewish Supremacism on "Jewish Media Supremacy" document, the ownership, depth and breadth of Jewish influence in the media is simply breathtaking. > > In media, whether you speak of owners, administrators, managers, editors, producers, writers, correspondents, pundits and reporters, there is an army of Jews who are animated by the Holocaust and the issues of the organized Jewish community. If you haven't yet read them, you simply must see the evidence on the Jewish supremacy in media I have compiled in my books Jewish Supremacism and My Awakening. > > The other great seat of establishment power is simply money, huge sums of money and the willingness to use those funds on behalf of an agenda. The biggest concentrations of wealth in the world today are in the Zionist international banks, and in financial groups that the Jews completely control such as the Federal Reserve Corporation, the same forces that have led us to the doorstep of a great depression. It is no accident that Alan Greenspan and Ben Shalom Bernanke are the last two of the Federal Reserve czars. > > Even in days of World War I, an immensely rich, Jewish international banker, Jacob Schiff, voiced pride in the fact that he was instrumental in weakening Czarist Russia (the government that Jews universally hated), and that he supported Russia's enemies so as to make Russia ripe for communist overthrow (Jewish groups brag of his help to Japan in the Russo-Japanese War so as to hurt the Russian government). Schiff also gave millions of dollars to directly finance the Jews who led and organized the Russian revolution and the Bolshevik terror in Russia. There is no disputing of these facts. Plenty of Jewish history books detail all of it. > > So, frankly, financial power in the control of people who will use it for an agenda is also a key ingredient of real power. Again, the financial power in the hands of modern day Jacob Schiff's, is an incredibly powerful weapon. > > So forget about the "Military-Industrial Complex." That is passe. > > In today's world it makes more sense to speak about the "Political, Financial and Media Zionist complex." That is the real core of power that bends everything whether it be local laws, or giant corporations, to its will. Even if one of the world's richest firms, such as Microsoft (which is now by the way run by a Jewish extremist), would buck the political, financial, and media Zionist complex, it would be broken by government fiat, the Jewish-influenced courts (such as anti-trust actions), and by vicious attacks by the Jewish-influenced media. Microsoft would either be dismembered or destroyed. > > Such are the realities of the modern world. > > There is no longer a "military industrial complex," but there is a Political and media and financial Zionist complex that rules us and aims to control the whole world. > > No single part of this behemoth can be defeated, because it can use its other assets to defend the section under attack. It can only be brought down by concentrating all our political and ideological fire right on the core the problem, International Zionism and its driving impetus: Jewish Supremacism. > > ?Dr. David Duke > > Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/forget-the-military-industrial-complex-today-its-the-political-financial-and-media-zionist-complex_7394.html > > ---- > > The Hidden Massive Racial Discrimination in America against Whites > 1/29/2009 > > The main argument for affirmative action is that institutions should reflect racial percentages of population, if not there must be de facto racial discrimination. Here is the breakdown of students by race at America's premier university, Obama's alma mater, Harvard. Even though non-Jewish White Americans are almost 70 percent of the population and on average score much higher on entrance exams, they are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. So what race is really the victim of racial discrimination? For those who are truly dedicated to stopping racial discrimination, what are you going to do about this massive discrimination, or does it not matter to you because White people happen to be the victims? > > The hidden, massive racial discrimination that goes on in America against White people! > > A U.S. Government study offers proof that European Americans face massive institutional racial discrimination that affects millions of the most talented and educated of our people > > Introduction by Dr. David Duke ? As most of you know, the term "white supremacist" has become literally a prefix of my name when I am in the news. It is the media's way to condition readers not to pay attention to what I say because I am a "white supremacist." The truth is I am not a White supremacist, and I seek no supremacy or control over any people, but I do demand that the rights of people of European descent to be respected as much as any other people's rights. > > The fact is that in the United States of America, Canada, the UK in many areas of Europe Whites face a powerful state-sanctioned, and often mandated, racial discrimination against White people who are better-qualified than their non-White counterparts. It may be surprising to some reading this, but millions of discriminated against Whites are often poorer and who face more difficult social situations than many of their non-White counterparts who are being given preference over them. > > It also affects the most talented of our people. Many Whites are under the mistaken impression that the White victims of racial discrimination are mostly from the low income and low IQ sectors of the population. Nothing could be further from the truth. In actuality, the percentages of Whites who are victims of racial discrimination are much higher in the sectors of the White population with the highest intelligence and greatest abilities. The facts are shocking, but true. > > Most people know that most universities have programs of admittance that give less-qualified minorities preference over better-qualified Whites. Almost all of the Fortune 500 largest corporations have affirmative action and diversity programs that discriminate against White people, both male and female, in hiring. They also have programs of discrimination that favor non-Whites in promotions and advancement. This is true in the academic area as well. You can look at almost any academic department of any American university and you will see in place a strong racial bias for "minorities" in preface over Whites in hiring and advancement. Whether you are talking about a university History, English or Math department in almost any university these policies are in place and powerful. These racial discriminatory policies are real, and they can be easily proven to exist. But, now we thanks to a government study, there is even a more powerful way to show their real impact on tens of mi > llions of White Americans. > > The brilliant economist and author whose pen name is Yggdrasil has compiled the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth (NLSY) 1979, which was a massive study conducted by the Department of Labor to track the lives of 155,000 Americans by race, IQ, income, education and other factors to see how remedial efforts for minorities were doing. > > It was done after the installation of so called "affirmative action" programs which gave preference to non-White groups over whites. The NLSY study is meant to follow this huge sampling for their entire lives to see how diversity is working out for America. The data is from this ongoing study is tangible proof of the horrendous level of racial discrimination going on against White people. I will link you to Yggdrasil's fine paper in a moment, but let me first give you a couple of snippets from his work that proves the existence of massive racial discrimination going on against our people. > > Here is a chart showing the ethnic breakdown of the most prestigious university in the United States of America: Harvard. America's premier university is extremely expensive (unless you receive special grants and scholarships) and a degree from it just about guarantees its graduates the best paid and prestigious jobs America has to offer. > > Affirmative action advocates have long said the companies or institutions that don't reflect the actual racial population percentages are de facto racist and discriminatory. So what is the situation at Harvard, non-Jewish Whites who are about 70 pecent of the American population are only about 22 percent of the Harvard student body. > > One should first consider the fact that Whites are represented in the top two percentile level on college admission tests on an average that is a 5 times higher rate than non-White groups. If one then factors in the fact that Whites are also 70 percent of the population, there should be at least 25 times more Whites who would be better qualified than the non-White students currently at Harvard. But even though these Whites are the best and brightest America has to offer they are limited to only 20 percent of Harvard students! Such is nothing more than blatant, racial discrimination. Another interesting fact one can gleam from this chart and many in the NLSY studies that Jewish over-representation is not based simply on the fact that Jews have a high intelligence, they often do twice as well as their intelligence bracket would indicate. Such would suggest the intra-tribal support system for group cohesion and advancements aids their success rate. > > The NLSY data also shows how incomes today in the USA correlate with race and intelligence. Let's take a look NLSY tracking studies of intelligent White women, these are White women in the 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket as compared to Black women in that same high 90 to 97 percent IQ bracket. The average Black females of that IQ level earned an average of approximately $54,000 per year through 1996, whereas White females on the same IQ level earned only half of that amount, about $28,000 per year through 1996. > > When White women in the same intelligent bracket of Black women earn half of the average amount that the Black women do, that's real racial discrimination. > > I am not referring here to a few White women who are at least equally qualified but getting half the salary that Black women do, I am talking about the average White women in America! The NLSY is a big enough sample that reflects the whole nation. In fact it is meant to. The average White woman of high intelligence earns one-half of what Black women do of the same intelligence! > > I obviously don't like this racial discrimination against our people. Neither does the economist Yggdrasil. We advocate that the best person regardless of race gets whatever college admission or job or promotion their abilities dictate. We have no fear of how well our people will do on a fair playing field. Because we stand for true civil rights, human rights in the matter, we are called racists, and the real capper: "white supremacists." > > There are many people in America and around the world who are ignorant of the facts of anti-White racial discrimination. The media acts like it doesn't exist. Even after the election of an affirmative action African-American President, America is still painted as an anti-Black racist country. The truth is that European Americans are facing racial discrimination in the very institutions and nation that our forefathers created. Our movement is truly a liberation movement like any other in the world that strives for a people to free and live in society of our own values rather than oppressive society imposed upon us. > > We are not racists or supremacists trying to deny the rights of others. > > We are human rights activists defending our people's rights and heritage. > > ?Dr. David Duke > Source & Charts : http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-real-racial-discrimination-that-goes-on-in-america_7407.html > > ----- > > Obama's Mideast Jewish Wet Dream Team > > George Mitchell is the new American envoy now in the Mideast. Who is Mitchell and who are the key players in Obama's Mideast policy team? > > First, let's examine the major players on the Obama foreign policy team. Roger Cohen writing in The New York Times on January 11, 2009 wrote some things that if he were a Gentile would have earned him some attacks as an "anti-Semite." He pointed out the incredible top-heavy pro-Zionist content of the team which is supposed to broker a fair and just peace in the Mideast. In discussing the team he identified them with these words: > > They include Dennis Ross (the veteran Clinton administration Mideast peace envoy who may now extend his brief to Iran) [a long-time Jewish Zionist]; James Steinberg [Jewish Zionist] (as deputy secretary of state) ; Dan Kurtzer [Jewish Zionist] (the former U.S. ambassador to Israel); Dan Shapiro [Jewish Zionist] (a longtime aide to Obama); and Martin Indyk [Jewish Zionist] another former ambassador to Israel who is close to the incoming secretary of state, Hillary Clinton.) > > Now, I have nothing against smart, driven, liberal, Jewish (or half-Jewish) males; I've looked in the mirror. I know or have talked to all these guys, except Shapiro. They're knowledgeable, broad-minded and determined. Still, on the diversity front they fall short. On the change-you-can-believe-in front, they also leave something to be desired. > > Cohen did not even mention that the two closest advisers to Obama, the guys that filter almost everything that Obama see and hears and makes the day to day decisions of running the oval office. They are David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel, two long time dedicated Jewish extremists. Emmanuel, son of an Irgun terrorist and named after another Irgun terrorist, even fought in the Israeli Army. > > Now we come to the new envoy to the Mideast, George Mitchell of Maine, the man who is supposed to be a broadminded and just arbitrator between Israel and the Palestinians. The Jewish-influenced has made a big point of Mitchell's Lebanese ancestry. What the Zionist media doesn't tell you is that he has been completely under the control of AIPAC and radical Zionists for years. > > As Senate Majority Leader he rammed through everything Israel wanted. He even supported the Senate resolution that gave Israel unconditional support during the Zionist massacre of thousands of Gaza civilians. In fact, originally an appointee to the Senate, Mitchell owes his entire Senate career on the massive support given him in 1982 and since by AIPAC and 27 other Jewish extremist controlled political action committees that AIPAC arranged. AIPAC's Tom Dine summarized AIPAC's success in Mitchell's election by saying that "American Jews are thus able to form our own foreign policy agenda." > > Of course, Dine spoke the complete and unvarnished truth. American and Israeli extremist Jews do indeed control the foreign policy of the United States. Such control has long gone on in concert with past U.S. Presidents and it goes on today with Obama. Only difference is that today there is a greater danger because many in America and around the world falsely believe that Obama represents change. With the incredible respect and adulation given to Obama, he is in a much better position to support the Zionist war agenda and ultimately do far more harm than a discredited George Bush. > > Hold on to your hats, America. I predict Obama will usher in war and conflagration that will make George Bush's presidency seem mild in comparison. He has already announced a doubling of American troops in Afghanistan. Can a catastrophic war with Iran be far behind? Jewish extremists want this war and Obama is completely under their control! > > ? Dr. David Duke > > Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/who-is-on-obamas-dream-team-for-mideast-peace_7380.html > > > > ------------------------------------- > You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster > Newletter. 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