Python 2.7 removal outline

[Dan Mahoney (Ports)]

More thoughts on mailman, specifically:

So, I just went to find an old FB post I made about mailman 2.x:

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From the "Load Bearing B****it" department:
Pretty much the entire world is stuck using an EOL'd mailing list manager (mailman 2.x), which depends on an EOL'd python (2.7).  
This includes:
* All the gnu mailing lists
* All of the linux mailing lists at listman.redhat
* all the FreeBSD mailing lists
* all the sourceforge mailing lists
* all the IETF mailing lists
* all of lists.isc.org
* NANOG
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That’s an AWFUL LOT of sysadmins, network admins, and coders who looked long and hard at Mailman 3 and decided “that’s not ready yet”.

I think, if *nothing else*, tauthon needs to be stapled in for mailman, even if it lives under /usr/local/mailman/bin or something (and bakes in the couple of dependencies).

I know about the archive incompatibility.  There *might* be a GSOC project to fix it.  Maybe.  Other changes can happen with greater use, but clearly there’s a first-mover disadvantage here.

-Dan

> On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Chris <portmaster at bsdforge.com> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-03-26 08:44, RW via freebsd-ports wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 13:55:33 +1100 (EST)
>> Dave Horsfall wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021, George Mitchell wrote:
>>> >> [...] it is really not for everybody to use overlays in current
>>> >> state (overlays are poor documented at least). [...]
>>> >
>>> > Until this thread I had never heard of them.                  --
>>> > George
>>> I can't remember the last time I used overlays (certainly with CP/M);
>>> I didn't know that FreeBSD even supported them (why bother when
>>> you've got VM?).
>> I doubt that meaning of overlay is going to be relevant. I'd not heard
>> of it either, but from looking in ports/Mk/ it seems to be a way of
>> modifying port builds.
> As I understand it. It allows you to graft out-of-tree ports/versions
> onto the ports-tree-proper.
> 
> --Chris
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