mail/mailman v3?

Dan Langille dan at langille.org
Fri Apr 24 13:32:06 UTC 2020


> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Kurt Jaeger <pi at FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
>> With mail/mailman being Python 2.7 (which is end-of-life), and mailman 3 being Python 3 compatible:
>> 
>> Do you know of any plans to port Mailman 3?
> 
> There's already a PR about that:
> 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225543

Now 2 years old I see. Good start. 

> The patch itself is fine, but we need run-tests.
> 
> This means: If you want to help,
> - use that patch,
> - build mailman3,
> - and install it somewhere and
> - test all the use-cases that you can think of
> - then write some docs on how to move an existing mailman2 site
>  to mailman3

I'm guessing that's over and above what I found at:

    https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html


> - and give ideas how to handle list archives
>  *especially* keeping the URLs identical (!)

I think the existing archives are static HTML.  I have some archives dating
back to 1999: https://www.unixathome.org/adsl/

There might be some server-side rewrites or aliases to ensure that this
URL always works, before and after mailman3:

https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html <https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2020-April/118352.html>

Let's compare 2 and 3 lists:

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/ <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/>

https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/ <https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/>

They are distinct (ignoring the hostname differences) so keeping the
old alongside the new should be safe. 

> And, speaking as one of the postmaster@ team:
> As lists.freebsd.org uses mailman2, we need this!
> 
> postmaster@ has not yet decided if we really want to move to mailman3,
> so we are open to other options. The mail archive is the biggest hurdle 8-(

Yes, we can't lose those.  I have my own archives to support.

— 
Dan Langille
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