vim - GTK2 or GTK3?
Niclas Zeising
zeising at freebsd.org
Thu Jan 3 18:43:24 UTC 2019
On 1/3/19 6:08 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> Adriaan de Groot wrote on 2019/01/03 14:28:
>> Niclas wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, 3 January 2019 13:00:02 CET
>> freebsd-ports-request at freebsd.org
>> wrote:
>>>> Firefox and Chromium both depend on GTK3, so it's highly likely that a
>>>> typical desktop user has GTK3 installed.
>>>
>>> +1, GTK3 is probably the best choice.
>>>
>>> As a side note, it looks like libreoffice defaults to GTK2 as well,
>>> perhaps it should be switched to GTK3 also?
>>
>> As a not-really-GTK-using person, I still have both GTK2 and GTK3
>> installed on
>> my system running KDE Plasma. Not for vim though:
>>
>> Installed packages to be REMOVED:
>> gtk2-2.24.32
>> fontforge-20170731
>> mftrace-1.2.18_1
>>
>> Installed packages to be REMOVED:
>> gtk3-3.22.30_4
>> gpsd-3.17
>>
>> I'm a fan of pushing for toolkit migration, so reducing the number of
>> things
>> that pull in GTK2 is a good thing.
>>
>>
>> So if we're expressing hopes that ports might be made GTK2-free (by
>> porting to
>> GTK3 for instance) then I'd hope that fontforge gets that treatment,
>> too. From
>> looking at the source repo, I don't think the GTK2 option actually
>> works (and
>> the comments suggest it's not all that good anyway). In the
>> configure.ac it
>> looks like there are spelling-inconsistencies between
>> fontforge_can_use_gtk=yes
>> and, e.g,,
>> FONTFORGE_ARG_ENABLE_GDK
>>
>> (mtrace depends on fontforge, so fixing fontforge would clean GTK2 off my
>> system)
>
> It is not so simple. What works for you doesn't work for somebody else.
> I am running KDE4 with QT4 but some applications use GTK2 as the only
> option or I set them to use GTK2 because GTK2 has better theme
> integration to KDE4 / QT style than GTK3 (in my personal case).
> And, for example, Total Commander has two choices - QT or GTK2. I tried
> it to build with QT but it failed so I switched to GTK2 and it builds fine.
> So in my current situation I am glad we have GTK2 and GTK3 and all my
> applications are working (better with GTK2 than GTK3). And having both
> GTK versions installed is not a big problem. Their size is relatively
> small compared to apps like browsers, libreoffice etc.
>
No one is suggesting removing GTK2. However, having most ports, where
there is a choice, defaulting to GTK3 rather than GTK2 might be sensible.
Regards
--
Niclas Zeising
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