portmaster, portupgrade, etc

[Baho Utot]

On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote:
> 
> On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote:
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>>> Here's my take on that.
>>>
>>> The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 
>>> 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system.
>>>
>>
>> [putolin]
>>
>>> Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any change 
>>> and make the most noise influence you. There will always be edge case 
>>> user who think their needs out weight what is best for the group.
>>
>> So what you are really saying is Go to hell old farts we don't need 
>> you here.  We are not going to listen to you as you are too old to 
>> know anything.  You are old and stupid.
>>
>> It is looking like I will need to move away from FreeBSD if that is 
>> really what is being accomplished here.
> 
> But do those old farts have anything interesting to say or they are just 
> making noise? What's the alternative to the proposed direction?
> 
> GrzegorzJ

Everyone should be heard.  who knows if the direction would be the same?

You won't hear from this old fart as every time I have had a question or 
input on direction All I got was grief.

The last time was about pkgng.  As someone that moved from LFS/building 
my own distribution to FreeBSD, and adding a package manager and tools 
for LFS.  I think I may have learned something in that process.  SO what 
did you folks do, Well I was just bitch slapped down.  So much for user 
input.  Hell pkgng can not even merge configurations file in /etc when 
is that going to be fixed.  Also the packaging of base is just a cluster 
fuck, there are no other words for that non sense.  When the base 
packaging was started it was told that by 11.0 it would be done and here 
it is at 11.1 and it still a cluster fuck.  Now you want to add flavors, 
  good grief you can not even finish the other projects that were 
started how will this flavors thing work out?

Anyway it looks like I will be moving to OpenBSD or just go back to 
rolling my own as I have more free time to pursue building systems that 
work for me.  FreeBSD just doesn't look like it will be a fit for me in 
the future.